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2004JET
May 6th, 2004, 06:48
From: "Justin!" <justin@ellsworthlink.net>
Date: Fri Nov 21, 2003 7:52 am
Subject: Introduction


Even though there are no members yet, I thought I'd start off by
introducing myself....

My name is Justin, and I'm a senior at Michigan State, studying
International Studies, with an Anthropology cognate and an East Asian
Studies specialization. Through a program through Lansing Community
College, I did a work/study program called Japan Adventure, where I
lived in Shiga-Ken for 9 months. I worked on a cruise ship called the
Michigan Boat, which did lunch and dinner cruises on Biwako (The
largest lake in Japan - about 3/4 the size of Lake St.
Clair...Although that point of reference is lost on non-Michiganders).
I'm dating a girl that I met there - she is currently going to LCC,
learning English, and we both plan on returning to Japan next year,
pending the JET results. I'm really looking forward to possibly
getting the chance to return. It's a beautiful country. I'll have
more interesting things to say when it's not 2:48 in the morning. But
hey, I'm not going to knock the latenight thought process...That's
what got me to start this group.

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:46
From:
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sjsamurai007 [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=dRPsAhbgK6itqLFcOhbkxFMUlRBxW78FM8vBBE9RJOzzVRthZI96cujjrE0la2vam3QR3z33KEBMLig"]TomMiskey@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?sjsamurai007) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Nov 22, 2003 6:24
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: An oldtimer</font>
<tt>Hi there. My name is Tom Miskey. I was on JET from 1996-98, in
Wakayama-ken (south of Osaka). I saw the announcement on the JET-L
list and decided to join in case I could be of any help in answering
questions, offering advice, etc.

Good luck to everyone!

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:46
From:
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thatsasin [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=R98dJyPRoLtUqnqZozDcqJzosQlvXs7LGh31G481JavgLgA6gW2JndEAlmxkeapAXbXmXIFxcdlIQTuaBQ"]thatsasin@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?thatsasin) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Nov 24, 2003 5:07
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: applying for Hyogo Pref.</font>
<tt>Hi all. My girlfriend and I are currently working on our JET
applications and trying to decide on a placement request. We are
leaning toward Hyogo prefecture, since we both spent a month in Kobe
for a study abroad session and got to see a bit of the surrounding
area (Kyoto, Himeji, Osaka, Nara, and so on). Also, I spent another
month in Sendai afterwards and while it was nice, I definitely
prefered Kobe.

If anyone wants to share experiences they"ve had with living or
working in Hyogo prefecture, I"d love to hear them. I"m especially
curious about how big Hyogo is; I"ve looked at maps, but it"s hard to
tell whether we"d have easy access (say, 45 minutes to an hour on a
non-Shinkansen train) to Kobe and other nearby cities no matter where
in Hyogo were placed. We would definitely prefer to have access to
these cities, not only for familiarity, but because we"re both
vegetarians and the larger cities might be the only places we can go
to get certain vegetarian grocery items (I did a search and there"s
apparently a handful of vegetarian stores in Kobe).

sjsamurai007, since you lived nearby, maybe you could help me out, or
just tell me about your general experience in the region. Any
information would be helpful. Our second and third choices right now
are Kyoto and Nara prefectures, and we"re trying to decide if we
should switch one of them to the first choice or choose somewhere else
entirely. Ah, decisions.

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:46
From:
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Justin! [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=Y2obDbdl4LYsOFl-1IpwqJ1NxawwE_sW4Hg7gw_wftAqh6ukeK84tjvZwk5rqHzomCinADpL4VZqf7YBOesjljOiGw"]justin@e... (ymsgr:sendIM?atomic98yak) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Nov 24, 2003 7:14
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Intros, Placements, Etc.</font>
<tt>I"m glad this group is growing at such a quick rate. I think it
would be great if all of you could introduce yourself - whether you
are an applicant this year, an alumni offering your expertise, where
you"re from, and whatever else you want to add. I already wrote a
brief intro of myself (The 1st message, it can be seen in the
archive on the group site).

To respond to the previous message, I don"t have all that much
expertise, but I think Hyogo is a good first choice if for no other
reason because you"re most likely to get it - There are more
openings in Hyogo than any other area except Yokohama. I think all
of your 3 first picks are great - I lived in the Kansai area for 9
months (Otsu...15 minutes from Kyoto) and there are plenty of big
cities within an hour or so if you are somewhere in that area
(Osaka, Kobe, Kyoto). I"m curious, are you prepared for the
possibility that you and your girlfriend could get placed far from
each other? I"ve seen posts on forums about that happening - I
don"t know what the chances are, but I think they"d be the best if
you were in an area with many openings such as Hyogo.

Right now my largest concern also deals with my girlfriend. We"re
engaged, but she is Japanese, so she will certainly be able to
live/work in Japan. Will we be able to live together? Otsu was my
first choice because that"s where she"s from. That wouldn"t be so
bad living in a different place as long as she"s near, but it would
be a bit more difficult if I were placed in the Tokyo area or
something. Is the decision on whether we can live together made by
JET, CLAIR, the city I would work for, or individual landlords?

Reading David McConnel"s Importing Diversity: Inside Japan"s JET
Program a very small percentage of those accepted were married or
engaged in "87 and "88 (I"m only to Chapt. 3) I wonder if this is
because less people who are attached try such an endeavor, or if
it"s something JET interviewers try to stay away from...

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:46
From:
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Thomas, Nicholas D [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=hM58RQJZTfNp6CZZF7HjVsHx5_Fk2zFDTk0YfgCdNZBnNwgyxfcIPJlepi_yOTn4ylKQoon4aL6L4ucXc9ko8ZhbGd99RH04Iw"]nicholas.thomas@i... (ymsgr:sendIM?nikku_tomasu) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Nov 24, 2003 9:41
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: RE: [2004JET] Intros, Placements, Etc.</font>
<tt>Hi,

My name is Nik, I live and work in London (England) and I am applying for
JET this year. My application is nearly complete, I just have the essay left
to go (Arrgh.)

If anyone knows of any resources which might help in writing the essay, with
tips or ideas etc. that would be greatly appreciated. Justin: Does that
book, JET, importing diversity.. have any information that might help with
the essay, and the application in general? I think I might try to pick a
copy up after work today.

Anyway, back to the introduction. I am 24, so not quite fresh out of uni,
and I have been working for the last 3 years since graduating. I have never
been to Japan, but I do speak some Japanese, and I have some family
connections to Japan with my brother"s wife being Japanese.

Thanks, and good luck everyone with their applications.

Nik

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:46
From:
[/url]
Peter Honigmann [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=FWWyU0ztnnH9KvoCkIO6c_grGDKHtzFd3XThWPPL3qqUuuUeF8lbZPoMl8P0onn747y2JHnAmEIDAr9HJDmyu0qXgSno"]foleyhonigmann@s... (ymsgr:sendIM?peter_honigmann) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Nov 24, 2003 4:05
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: applying for Hyogo Pref.</font>
<tt>Hey there. I cannot offer any info on the location itself, but I
would just tell you that you need to be aware of the high
probability that you and your girlfriend will not be placed together.

I went over with my wife and we got the same town, but being married
is still no guarantee you get posted together.

We knew another couple who were engaged and were posted about 70
miles apart, which did not seem like much, especially in the US when
you have your own car. But it turned out to be quite the ordeal, as
one of them was in the country without direction train access. So
they did not get to see each other as much as they liked.

Just thought you might want to keep that in mind.

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=JcaXGyFVzulwRIkrr8r6R5Pfodo7Y-AifmSYhoENqCsphq1aycQvkBmK6v8wsSvz63aCwerBY_Caz_fPp3TnCffJ), thatsasin thatsasin@y... wrote:
Hi all. My girlfriend and I are currently working on our JET
applications and trying to decide on a placement request. We are
leaning toward Hyogo prefecture, since we both spent a month in
Kobe
for a study abroad session and got to see a bit of the surrounding
area (Kyoto, Himeji, Osaka, Nara, and so on). Also, I spent
another
month in Sendai afterwards and while it was nice, I definitely
prefered Kobe.

If anyone wants to share experiences they"ve had with living or
working in Hyogo prefecture, I"d love to hear them. I"m especially
curious about how big Hyogo is; I"ve looked at maps, but it"s hard
to
tell whether we"d have easy access (say, 45 minutes to an hour on a
non-Shinkansen train) to Kobe and other nearby cities no matter
where
in Hyogo were placed. We would definitely prefer to have access to
these cities, not only for familiarity, but because we"re both
vegetarians and the larger cities might be the only places we can
go
to get certain vegetarian grocery items (I did a search and there"s
apparently a handful of vegetarian stores in Kobe).

sjsamurai007, since you lived nearby, maybe you could help me out,
or
just tell me about your general experience in the region. Any
information would be helpful. Our second and third choices right
now
are Kyoto and Nara prefectures, and we"re trying to decide if we
should switch one of them to the first choice or choose somewhere
else
entirely. Ah, decisions.

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:46
From:
[/url]
Peter Honigmann [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=qeTKW2yp-ZhkdH49Zzxdj9KO3oIp2Lvpd0Vu7d__GpP4wpfRD-T9lHkRfxCa-OiUZI53UQUrHACdAuD5O0ifSdqzCUIRZoQ"]foleyhonigmann@s... (ymsgr:sendIM?peter_honigmann) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Nov 24, 2003 4:13
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: A brief intro</font>
<tt>Hi All:

I am a past JET, and have joined just to help you out as much as
possible. Also, I am hoping to start my own JET Alumni group outside
of the Chicago area, so I figure making a few contacts cannot hurt.

I have lived in Japan for three years, a year at a time and each
time I was doing something different and living somewhere new.
Basically I started as a high school exchange student in Chiba
prefecture, then became a private English instructor on an island
south of Okinawa, and then worked for JET from "95-"96 in Kochi-
city.

After my first trip I majored in Japanese at the University of
Wisconsin-Madison, which is what made me decided to go back two more
times. I met my wife in college, so she came with me for my last two
visits and had a great time.

That"s the basic info on me. I must say I am rather envious of you
all, because it has been 7 years since I have been back and I am
rather homesick for the place.

Peter

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:46
From:
[/url]
Justin! [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=nfPZw0tN6XKB9T8n6qKvH909h4MuW9T1I1R_c_2PXy0Zmov0s-OXiK_S6Q3zcVtYt3ES1uZCk2szwLDnhlU"]justin@e... (ymsgr:sendIM?atomic98yak) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Nov 24, 2003 5:21
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Intros, Placements, Etc.</font>
<tt>Nik,

I read about the book on another forum, and have only finished the
first two chapters of it. It seems like it"s basically an
anthropological view of Japan"s international relations vis-a-vis the
JET program. However, it does provide some valuable information
concerning what the interviewers are looking for and various
statistics. I believe it would have been good for me to have read it
before writing my essay, but what"s sent is sent, eh? :) Is the
Application due date the same in England as it is in the United
States (Dec. 5th)? From what I"ve heard, the earlier you get it in,
the better chance you have of getting an interview.



--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=I-lIH0dE_5ZCrKRzlT-YVCwY_Ijx1_f-f7W-KXpK0403KTtLfwn6Hg-G6RZMRXavzeo5YL8zUm4jOEOKoxe4fKc), Thomas, Nicholas D
nicholas.thomas@i... wrote:
Hi,

My name is Nik, I live and work in London (England) and I am
applying for
JET this year. My application is nearly complete, I just have the
essay left
to go (Arrgh.)

If anyone knows of any resources which might help in writing the
essay, with
tips or ideas etc. that would be greatly appreciated. Justin: Does
that
book, JET, importing diversity.. have any information that might
help with
the essay, and the application in general? I think I might try to
pick a
copy up after work today.

Anyway, back to the introduction. I am 24, so not quite fresh out
of uni,
and I have been working for the last 3 years since graduating. I
have never
been to Japan, but I do speak some Japanese, and I have some family
connections to Japan with my brother"s wife being Japanese.

Thanks, and good luck everyone with their applications.

Nik

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:46
From:
[/url]
Thomas, Nicholas D [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=puTBMIPuymJogg9ARj7No__CnCFHh3Pzsd6BUG7uH5TNfzJDhLLk_heksvD792nkBFlkWwGv_b2drzF1w6l9LLm--8L9vw"]nicholas.thomas@i... (ymsgr:sendIM?nikku_tomasu) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Nov 24, 2003 5:50
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: RE: [2004JET] Re: Intros, Placements, Etc.</font>
<tt>The deadline here is November the 28th, 5PM GMT. So in a word, no.

I have less than a week to finish the essay, and deliver the application to
the embassy. Luckily, I virtually go past the Japanese embassy on the way to
and from work, so hand delivering it within the deadline will not be a
problem.

I guess I should have done the essay and submitted it by now. Still, I just
churned out 800 words or so off the top of my head, so I am not too worried.
It"s mostly crap, but It should form the basis of a decent essay when I get
a chance to go over it.

Anyway, I"m off home now. Gonna see if I can pick up a copy of that book on
the way.

See you

Nik



-----Original Message-----
From: Justin!
To: 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=L1dv6Ym6Ek31T1gxLAY9QuH6_p_-GN-zJxHDa2H8P91csTYMxdzwn4YPUIFhToCXXEiS8naHOUBbLz4if26ONg)
Sent: 24/11/2003 17:21
Subject: [2004JET] Re: Intros, Placements, Etc.

Nik,

I read about the book on another forum, and have only finished the
first two chapters of it. It seems like it"s basically an
anthropological view of Japan"s international relations vis-a-vis the
JET program. However, it does provide some valuable information
concerning what the interviewers are looking for and various
statistics. I believe it would have been good for me to have read it
before writing my essay, but what"s sent is sent, eh? :) Is the
Application due date the same in England as it is in the United
States (Dec. 5th)? From what I"ve heard, the earlier you get it in,
the better chance you have of getting an interview.



--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=L1dv6Ym6Ek31T1gxLAY9QuH6_p_-GN-zJxHDa2H8P91csTYMxdzwn4YPUIFhToCXXEiS8naHOUBbLz4if26ONg), Thomas, Nicholas D
nicholas.thomas@i... wrote:
Hi,

My name is Nik, I live and work in London (England) and I am
applying for
JET this year. My application is nearly complete, I just have the
essay left
to go (Arrgh.)

If anyone knows of any resources which might help in writing the
essay, with
tips or ideas etc. that would be greatly appreciated. Justin: Does
that
book, JET, importing diversity.. have any information that might
help with
the essay, and the application in general? I think I might try to
pick a
copy up after work today.

Anyway, back to the introduction. I am 24, so not quite fresh out
of uni,
and I have been working for the last 3 years since graduating. I
have never
been to Japan, but I do speak some Japanese, and I have some family
connections to Japan with my brother"s wife being Japanese.

Thanks, and good luck everyone with their applications.

Nik



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2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:46
From:
[/url]
Peter Honigmann Jr [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=tNNgdrTkTwtaUNhfjXJ_pqMWxiPDqcH21SYSs03eCT5zGFRHDkaMJsVGDg6C2F1PqowH0eXT65V2p8brXpnqGt2I7ADj"]foleyhonigmann@s... (ymsgr:sendIM?peter_honigmann) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Nov 24, 2003 5:53
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] Re: Intros, Placements, Etc.</font>
<TT>Nik,

I read about the book on another forum, and have only finished the
first two chapters of it. It seems like it"s basically an
anthropological view of Japan"s international relations vis-a-vis the
JET program. However, it does provide some valuable information
concerning what the interviewers are looking for and various
statistics. I believe it would have been good for me to have read it
before writing my essay, but what"s sent is sent, eh? :) Is the
Application due date the same in England as it is in the United
States (Dec. 5th)? From what I"ve heard, the earlier you get it in,
the better chance you have of getting an interview.



--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas, Nicholas D"
nicholas.thomas@i... wrote:
Hi,

My name is Nik, I live and work in London
(England) and I am
applying for
JET this year. My application is nearly complete, I just have the
essay left
to go (Arrgh.)

If anyone knows of any resources which might help in writing the
essay, with
tips or ideas etc. that would be greatly appreciated. Justin: Does
that
book, "JET, importing diversity.." have any information that might
help with
the essay, and the application in general? I think I might try to
pick a
copy up after work today.

Anyway, back to the introduction. I am 24, so not quite fresh out
of uni,
and I have been working for the last 3 years since graduating. I
have never
been to Japan, but I do speak some Japanese, and I have some family
connections to Japan with my brother"s wife being Japanese.

Thanks, and good luck everyone with their applications.

Nik
<BR

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:46
From:
[/url]
brento1138 [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=tRA6LcrUA30D0FT36ohbXS04XSVz3-BvsSJ6rTAmWu2SSxCm0_tYiZihs_EFHbQ_WI8"]bsilk@s... (ymsgr:sendIM?brento1138) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 5:09
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: introducing myself - Brent</font>
<tt>Hey there, thought I would follow Justin"s example and introduce
myself. I too have applied for this JET program for 2004/2005 and
think it would be the coolest thing ever if I got accepted. Aside
from being a huuuuuuuuge fan of Samurai moveis (akira kurosawa"s da
man, and look out for the Last Samurai with Tom Cruise too), I"ve
always thought Japan would be a neat place to live for a while to
give me some inspiration for my writing. I"m a script-writer, and
write in all kinds of genres... right now I am writing a script for
this small little film company called neo classic pictures, which you
will probably never ever hear of. *sigh*. Anyhow, I am going to
university right now, majoring in Communications at SFU. I make
electronic music as a hobby. What do I want to do in the future?
Film, travel, teaching English, writing, DJ-ing and music making,
communicating... who knows! Something along those lines.

Back to Japan. I like the food, the culture, the people I have met
from there seem great! I"ve never been a foreigner, or should I
say Gaijan, before, so I think it would be an experience. I"ve
never even been overseas before, so going into a structured thing
like JET would be beneficial as I am sure I would have no idea how to
get around in Japan and communicate somehow without knowing
Japanese!! I"d be lost.

I recently bought the book by Lonely Planet on Japan, and have
started reading up. I"ve also got a book which introduces you to
Japanese language... so I"ve been reading it here and there, but
won"t really get much use out of it until I am actually there in
Japan. *crossing my fingers* So I will recommend these two books:
Lonely Planet Japan, and Read Japanese Today!

So yeah! If I meet anyone on this message board, hope to see you in
Japan! Good luck.

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:46
From:
2004JET@yahoogroups.com </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 5:32
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: New poll for 2004JET</font>
<tt>
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Thanks!

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:46
From:
[/url]
sjsamurai007 [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=svYemb-34u297NwUdeA01TTCCFYuzoK9l6010aOpxzI1VVXCfgrBSqUMgRQ1XsAVf8VCDrKW-Rlmj1BO"]TomMiskey@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?sjsamurai007) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:32
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: applying for Hyogo Pref.</font>
<tt>Regarding Hyogo, I really liked it. You"re right that Kobe is a
very international city, and so is Osaka, but you should be able to
find vegetarian food most places. Many devout Buddhists, especially
the monks, are vegetarians, so the concept is not unfamiliar to the
Japanese people, though they will probably think you too are doing
it for religious reasons.

You get to put down 3 choices for placement, so I"d recommend
putting down all 3 prefectures. It shows that you are especially
interested in the Kansai area... I put down 3 Kansai prefectures
(Nara being my 1st choice), and although I was in Wakayama-ken
officially, I was literally a 15 minute bike ride from the Nara
Pref. border. They try to do their best in placing you as close as
possible to where you want to be.

There are plenty of trains throughout Japan, and I think most places
in Hyogo will be 45 minutes or less to Kobe. You also have the
option of requesting the city size you want, so if a bigger city is
to you liking, indicate Urban.

Good luck!

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
atuin22 [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=I3DG3UqWVuyHNaAk_Ztmoh04FymYtI95MRmHFvwWKb8l879N8FrFJjHW4kgblANOgvAG8zAiuxwZ0A"]atuin22@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?atuin22) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 9:39
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Location</font>
<tt>Greetings all,

I"m among this year"s JET applicants, and I"d be grateful for some
advice on places to live in Japan. Ordinarily I"d be open to most
any location, but I"m applying with my girlfriend and I"d like to be
within a reasonable (in time and cost) distance from Tokyo because a
good friend of mine is living there. So, based entirely on my study
of maps, Shizuoka, Saitama, Chiba, and Yamanashi are my current
targets. Could someone help me narrow these down? Any information
or insight is welcome.

Also, I noticed Justin mentioned that Yokohama had the most openings.
Are there more details on that, and has anyone been to Yokohama?

Thanks for your help,
Steve

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
nlpenstand [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=RYSvfuv5mun9ROa93diffEVNha2tmTYjb87C0QyDik7ljUKtYCPwKeCQHUiJ-m74D1bwrlwqT8Rg"]penstand@e... (ymsgr:sendIM?nlpenstand) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 11:09
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: hello</font>
<tt>Hello

A little self introduction. I"ve been out of school for a few years
and started thinking about the JET program a few months ago. And have
been all over the web looking for JET info. I"m currently taking
Japanese class, it"s slow going though as I have real trouble
memorizing vocabs. Never been to Japan but am very excited about the
prospect of living there.

In any case, regarding what people have posted. I have read the
Diversity.... book, and I think it gives you a very good background
on what they"re looking for. (e.g. emphasis on cultural exchange
rather than teaching japanese). If you google enough, you can find
other people"s essays and what not on the web.

What I"m having trouble with is picking a prefecture/city. I really
don"t do well in cold weather so I"m thinking of picking Kyushu. But
I don"t know where in Kyushu since I"ve never been there.

The other thing is the ALT situation in general, and I think this info
is kind of hard to find since ESID. But I would like to be in a
prefecture where there are good JET support system set up and I"m not
the only one out there....Every school/prefecture/city/etc is probably
different, but I wonder if some prefectures/cities are better than
others in how they utilize their JETs. I"m not looking to teach a
class by myself but I wouldn"t want to have nothing to do for 8 hours
a day either....


nancy

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
Peter Honigmann Jr [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=Nh9dxwUQS-PsYck_rbCg-GUZQPbLqNTuVpabwEk7bv9Rk9md01E1mmJkknT9ZJLIAYD9loD4XaLMeEEV6vO4S-5rrQSrTQ"]foleyhonigmann@s... (ymsgr:sendIM?peter_honigmann) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 11:26
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] hello</font>
<TT>Hello

A little self introduction. I"ve been out of school for a few years
and started thinking about the JET program a few months ago. And have
been all over the web looking for JET info. I"m currently taking
Japanese class, it"s slow going though as I have real trouble
memorizing vocabs. Never been to Japan but am very excited about the
prospect of living there.

In any case, regarding what people have posted. I have read the
"Diversity...." book, and I think it gives you a very good background
on what they"re looking for. (e.g. emphasis on cultural exchange
rather than teaching japanese). If you google enough, you can find
other people"s essays and what not on the web.

What I"m having trouble with is picking a prefecture/city. I really
don"t do well in cold weather so I"m
thinking of picking Kyushu. But
I don"t know where in Kyushu since I"ve never been there.

The other thing is the ALT situation in general, and I think this info
is kind of hard to find since ESID. But I would like to be in a
prefecture where there are good JET support system set up and I"m not
the only one out there....Every school/prefecture/city/etc is probably
different, but I wonder if some prefectures/cities are better than
others in how they utilize their JETs. I"m not looking to teach a
class by myself but I wouldn"t want to have nothing to do for 8 hours
a day either....


nancy


<BR

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
[url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=9A4USM1Qwv58dha7t2b3eAyrJO6_sB62B5Yv-mmk3RQ0N3x96VIFRdxFRzgAohbL9-bShqvKkk-WWdE"]penstand@e... (ymsgr:sendIM?nlpenstand) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 12:00
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] hello</font>
<tt>
Hello.

yeah, my first choice was Okinawa. I"m originally from Taiwan and that"s very
close to it so it"s really ideal. (Yet another concern, I"m not sure I could be
a very good cultural ambassador....I"ve been in the US many many years, but I
don"t know if I can tell you all about American culture...., Though at the same
time, I think that"s what traveling gets you to do. You don"t even realize you
have a culture till you have another culture to compare it w/....Anyways,
probably off topic here.)

In any case, I think Okinawa would be too hot for me. Yeah yeah, one shouldn"t
be too picky about weather, it"s part of the experience. But given a choice,
I"m looking for something that"s not too hot nor too cold. :) According to
Lonely Planet, Kyushu suppposedly was famous for its ceremics, yet another
draw.....

nancy


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Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:26:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [2004JET] hello

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DIV Nancy: /div
DIV /div
DIV If you are looking for a warm climate I would suggest Okinawa. It has very
nice weather, and the island will have quite a few JETs as well as other
foreigners if you should desire their company. /div
DIV /div
DIV I lived on Miyako island, which is quite south of Okinawa, and loved it.
While I was not there for JET, I did meet all the JETs on the island, of which
there were about 8 I believe. While I recommend Miyako because it is so nice and
tropical, the draw back is the cost and time to travel to the mainland. But
Okinawa would be better because it is so much closer. BR BR B I nlpenstand
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about the BR prospect of living there. BR BR In any case, regarding what
people have posted. I have read the BR Diversity.... book, and I think it
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having trouble with is picking a prefecture/city. I really BR don"t do well in
cold weather so I"m
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never been there. BR BR The other thing is the ALT situation in general, and
I think this info BR is kind of hard to find since ESID. But I would like to be
in a BR prefecture where there are good JET support system set up and I"m
not BR the only one out there....Every school/prefecture/city/etc is
probably BR different, but I wonder if some prefectures/cities are better
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2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
Justin! [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=7sOxByJ32QpFbMHsw7NR0zulnRfJcouod98AHCweGRd0OlWyyEkTTngU0dQFTMEc5jdWFt_DDjjdsfS-h_RxhsrH"]justin@e... (ymsgr:sendIM?atomic98yak) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 1:38
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Colors</font>
<tt>I"m trying to change the color scheme to something that is easy for
everyone to see and doesn"t hurt any eyes - Since all computers and
eyes are different, let me know if there are any problems with the new
scheme (I plan on not changing the colors after I get something
acceptable).

Thanks!
Justin

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
thatsasin [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=z4aTAFElV38TYfXM316N5gLaB7LmertDEqc5EdfcxV85pbWhcpxAvJCMr5xPmWkWUfcyTpmspFjOFTnY"]thatsasin@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?thatsasin) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 5:10
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: applying for Hyogo Pref.</font>
<tt>Thanks to everyone who"s helped me so far. I think my girlfriend and
I have settled on Hyogo as our first choice, and probably Kyoto and
Nara prefs. as our second and third.

Peter, did this engaged couple you knew request to live together in
the same apartment, or just near each other? I wonder if that affects
one"s chances of being placed with their significant other. Also,
while my girlfriend and I are not engaged, we"re wondering if we
should say we are in order to convince the JET panel that we"re
serious about our relationship. Thoughts?


--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=yd2z_YL2eC7oQv35Mw8Ux0BzMqikUD8EB6KrvZ9RDoJMMzWUy18zJ4irZz9p0VQXk-4s9JNdEbkLzf_DwEQA), Peter Honigmann
foleyhonigmann@s... wrote:
Hey there. I cannot offer any info on the location itself, but I
would just tell you that you need to be aware of the high
probability that you and your girlfriend will not be placed together.

I went over with my wife and we got the same town, but being married
is still no guarantee you get posted together.

We knew another couple who were engaged and were posted about 70
miles apart, which did not seem like much, especially in the US when
you have your own car. But it turned out to be quite the ordeal, as
one of them was in the country without direction train access. So
they did not get to see each other as much as they liked.

Just thought you might want to keep that in mind.

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=yd2z_YL2eC7oQv35Mw8Ux0BzMqikUD8EB6KrvZ9RDoJMMzWUy18zJ4irZz9p0VQXk-4s9JNdEbkLzf_DwEQA), thatsasin thatsasin@y... wrote:
Hi all. My girlfriend and I are currently working on our JET
applications and trying to decide on a placement request. We are
leaning toward Hyogo prefecture, since we both spent a month in
Kobe
for a study abroad session and got to see a bit of the surrounding
area (Kyoto, Himeji, Osaka, Nara, and so on). Also, I spent
another
month in Sendai afterwards and while it was nice, I definitely
prefered Kobe.

If anyone wants to share experiences they"ve had with living or
working in Hyogo prefecture, I"d love to hear them. I"m especially
curious about how big Hyogo is; I"ve looked at maps, but it"s hard
to
tell whether we"d have easy access (say, 45 minutes to an hour on a
non-Shinkansen train) to Kobe and other nearby cities no matter
where
in Hyogo were placed. We would definitely prefer to have access to
these cities, not only for familiarity, but because we"re both
vegetarians and the larger cities might be the only places we can
go
to get certain vegetarian grocery items (I did a search and there"s
apparently a handful of vegetarian stores in Kobe).

sjsamurai007, since you lived nearby, maybe you could help me out,
or
just tell me about your general experience in the region. Any
information would be helpful. Our second and third choices right
now
are Kyoto and Nara prefectures, and we"re trying to decide if we
should switch one of them to the first choice or choose somewhere
else
entirely. Ah, decisions.

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
<a href="ymsgr:sendIM?dynamisx">http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/online.gif
</a>
Matt dynamisx@b... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=O8uI8Rj2kKkMbmqbZNVJpwpGOsZkmhriQsdYqz3Otl5ayikvNuZCfauS208x_w6h6voTAaa85FHWJPqRcg) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 10:14
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Hello!</font>
<tt>Hi everyone!

My name is Matt Griffiths. I live in Swindon, UK. I sent my
application off nice and early, and used the web submission thing,
and I"ve got my interview this Friday. I"ve requested Kinki, Chuba,
Kanto regions, in that order. As you see, I"ve not really any
preference, but I"m hoping for somewhere reasonably central.

Anyway, nice to meet you all, and wish me luck!

Matt

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
shinikenshi [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=17rzJe8W29OCAfHwAU1QyEtQgpA18yYoADXsVnL7XMaaXt8K3jgzE3YXUPpzc8HNUtfYlEo9psod__A814ajv3lb"]Shinikenshi@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?shinikenshi) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 1:11
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Hello fellow applicants! :)</font>
<tt>I suppose it"s introduction time so here goes.

My name is Chris Ling and I"m applying for the ALT position for next
year. I"m finishing up university over at Univ. California at San
Diego (UCSD). Shouts and salutations to anyone in the socali
region. :)

I got word of this board from another site so I figured I"d stop on
in.

I"m applying to mostly places in the Kansai area though my first
choice is somewhere in Shikoku since I"ve heard many good things
about this area. That and Kagawa is the homeplace of Shorinji Kempo
which I am currently studying in my spare time.

I"m crossing my fingers that it won"t suck too much that I am turning
in my application tomorrow since I"ve heard from other people that
turning it in this late in the application period might be bad if the
quota for applicants is met much sooner.

Here"s hoping I stick it out all the way through!

-Chris

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
shinikenshi [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=6DMDfiSc2015g4SiM0YXx-Nc1W-UfCLqPLJX9N9wLstFsywb_F8mIHTG1AGaR5PYS3qGZVtO59slCC8b2wRA9Geq"]Shinikenshi@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?shinikenshi) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 1:20
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Intros, Placements, Etc.</font>
<tt>Hey Nik,

If in the case you are still working on your statement of purpose, I
would recommend reading this essay from a JETer on his website:

http://www.jetanuki.com/inside/jet/essay.htm

It seems to be a good model on how to write a good JET essay. Though
I"m turning my app in tomorrow (hopefully!) I think I still have
loads to revise before I"m done.

Hope that helps!
Chris

P.S. This is somewhat off topic, but on the matter of the points
system and all, I"m wondering if I might be penalized on how the rec
letters are presented.

Basically, one of my rec letters (copies and all) is placed in a
sealed folder while the other is in an envelope. Should I just be
uniform and place everything in similar containment so the whole app
looks uniform? Or is that just a trivial thing that I shouldn"t worry
about? I figure that its so important not to get docked points for
dumb mistakes that something like this should not be overlooked.

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=fwHN_pI9XUcHnwprFoZqKOSjEW_8kXxlcC3ntxVN6auMz2jhTT0EsER9fOGtOJdXzmGU3brMyjQlwO2EH1RziqlN), Peter Honigmann Jr
foleyhonigmann@s... wrote:
I would just add this about the essay, and the entire process in
general.

What they are looking for a person who is genuinely interested in
learning about the Japanese language and culture, as well as having
an interest in teaching.

The more you can demonstrate that you are a well-rounded individual
who is open to new ideas, can handle change and unique situations
well, and thrives on meeting new people and challenges, the better
your chances are of getting through the process.

You may already know this, but everything you do in the written app
is assigned points. The neatness, the content of your essay, if you
place your documents in proper order - all get assigned points. So if
you receive enough points you will then get an interview. It
definitely pays to spend time making it look nice and neat,
proofreading your essay, and sending it in in good order.

Hope that is of some help. I have also been involved in the actual
interview process - so once you get picked for the interview I can
offer some tips there as well.

Peter

Justin! justin@e... wrote:
Nik,

I read about the book on another forum, and have only finished the
first two chapters of it. It seems like it"s basically an
anthropological view of Japan"s international relations vis-a-vis
the
JET program. However, it does provide some valuable information
concerning what the interviewers are looking for and various
statistics. I believe it would have been good for me to have read
it
before writing my essay, but what"s sent is sent, eh? :) Is the
Application due date the same in England as it is in the United
States (Dec. 5th)? From what I"ve heard, the earlier you get it
in,
the better chance you have of getting an interview.



--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=fwHN_pI9XUcHnwprFoZqKOSjEW_8kXxlcC3ntxVN6auMz2jhTT0EsER9fOGtOJdXzmGU3brMyjQlwO2EH1RziqlN), Thomas, Nicholas D
nicholas.thomas@i... wrote:
Hi,

My name is Nik, I live and work in London (England) and I am
applying for
JET this year. My application is nearly complete, I just have the
essay left
to go (Arrgh.)

If anyone knows of any resources which might help in writing the
essay, with
tips or ideas etc. that would be greatly appreciated. Justin:
Does
that
book, JET, importing diversity.. have any information that
might
help with
the essay, and the application in general? I think I might try to
pick a
copy up after work today.

Anyway, back to the introduction. I am 24, so not quite fresh out
of uni,
and I have been working for the last 3 years since graduating. I
have never
been to Japan, but I do speak some Japanese, and I have some
family
connections to Japan with my brother"s wife being Japanese.

Thanks, and good luck everyone with their applications.

Nik


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2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
Peter Honigmann Jr [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=RvNPGpS38TsXfzgOHhTH7w2iz98IwIYId361HSf00qZSkRG8a3gBb8yWmFZUcuvyr9XaYxF4iTrrUVlgVthtWKL_"]foleyhonigmann@s... (ymsgr:sendIM?peter_honigmann) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 3:58
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] Re: applying for Hyogo Pref.</font>
<TT>Thanks to everyone who"s helped me so far. I think my girlfriend and
I have settled on Hyogo as our first choice, and probably Kyoto and
Nara prefs. as our second and third.

Peter, did this engaged couple you knew request to live together in
the same apartment, or just near each other? I wonder if that affects
one"s chances of being placed with their significant other. Also,
while my girlfriend and I are not engaged, we"re wondering if we
should say we are in order to convince the JET panel that we"re
serious about our relationship. Thoughts?


--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Honigmann"
foleyhonigmann@s... wrote:
Hey there. I cannot offer any info on the location itself, but I
would just tell you that you need to be aware of the high
probability that you and your
girlfriend will not be placed together.

I went over with my wife and we got the same town, but being married
is still no guarantee you get posted together.

We knew another couple who were engaged and were posted about 70
miles apart, which did not seem like much, especially in the US when
you have your own car. But it turned out to be quite the ordeal, as
one of them was in the country without direction train access. So
they did not get to see each other as much as they liked.

Just thought you might want to keep that in mind.

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com, "thatsasin" thatsasin@y... wrote:
Hi all. My girlfriend and I are currently working on our JET
applications and trying to decide on a placement request. We are
leaning toward Hyogo prefecture, since we both spent a month in
Kobe
for a
study abroad session and got to see a bit of the surrounding
area (Kyoto, Himeji, Osaka, Nara, and so on). Also, I spent
another
month in Sendai afterwards and while it was nice, I definitely
prefered Kobe.

If anyone wants to share experiences they"ve had with living or
working in Hyogo prefecture, I"d love to hear them. I"m especially
curious about how big Hyogo is; I"ve looked at maps, but it"s hard
to
tell whether we"d have easy access (say, 45 minutes to an hour on a
non-Shinkansen train) to Kobe and other nearby cities no matter
where
in Hyogo were placed. We would definitely prefer to have access to
these cities, not only for familiarity, but because we"re both
vegetarians and the larger cities might be the only places we can
go
to get certain
vegetarian grocery items (I did a search and there"s
apparently a handful of vegetarian stores in Kobe).

sjsamurai007, since you lived nearby, maybe you could help me out,
or
just tell me about your general experience in the region. Any
information would be helpful. Our second and third choices right
now
are Kyoto and Nara prefectures, and we"re trying to decide if we
should switch one of them to the first choice or choose somewhere
else
entirely. Ah, decisions.
<BR

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
Peter Honigmann Jr [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=soTcFo9QR_CTWFB0Qa5lkLXgO0mXLzSqHttZ1QdNYd0SErXjpuspVBMPU-0olQwl34JCJefJ-otpH1_hSm0Hoxrzxgcu6m0"]foleyhonigmann@s... (ymsgr:sendIM?peter_honigmann) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 4:17
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] Re: Intros, Placements, Etc.</font>
<TT>Hey Nik,

If in the case you are still working on your statement of purpose, I
would recommend reading this essay from a JETer on his website:

http://www.jetanuki.com/inside/jet/essay.htm

It seems to be a good model on how to write a good JET essay. Though
I"m turning my app in tomorrow (hopefully!) I think I still have
loads to revise before I"m done.

Hope that helps!
Chris

P.S. This is somewhat off topic, but on the matter of the points
system and all, I"m wondering if I might be penalized on how the rec
letters are presented.

Basically, one of my rec letters (copies and all) is placed in a
sealed folder while the other is in an envelope. Should I just be
uniform and place everything in similar containment so the whole app
looks uniform? Or is
that just a trivial thing that I shouldn"t worry
about? I figure that its so important not to get docked points for
dumb mistakes that something like this should not be overlooked.

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com, Peter Honigmann Jr
foleyhonigmann@s... wrote:
I would just add this about the essay, and the entire process in
general.

What they are looking for a person who is genuinely interested in
learning about the Japanese language and culture, as well as having
an interest in teaching.

The more you can demonstrate that you are a well-rounded individual
who is open to new ideas, can handle change and unique situations
well, and thrives on meeting new people and challenges, the better
your chances are of getting through the process.

You may already know this, but everything you do in the written app
is assigned points. The neatness, the content of your essay,
if you
place your documents in proper order - all get assigned points. So if
you receive enough points you will then get an interview. It
definitely pays to spend time making it look nice and neat,
proofreading your essay, and sending it in in good order.

Hope that is of some help. I have also been involved in the actual
interview process - so once you get picked for the interview I can
offer some tips there as well.

Peter

Justin! justin@e... wrote:
Nik,

I read about the book on another forum, and have only finished the
first two chapters of it. It seems like it"s basically an
anthropological view of Japan"s international relations vis-a-vis
the
JET program. However, it does provide some valuable information
concerning what the interviewers are looking for and various
statistics. I believe it would
have been good for me to have read
it
before writing my essay, but what"s sent is sent, eh? :) Is the
Application due date the same in England as it is in the United
States (Dec. 5th)? From what I"ve heard, the earlier you get it
in,
the better chance you have of getting an interview.



--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas, Nicholas D"
nicholas.thomas@i... wrote:
Hi,

My name is Nik, I live and work in London (England) and I am
applying for
JET this year. My application is nearly complete, I just have the
essay left
to go (Arrgh.)

If anyone knows of any resources which might help in writing the
essay, with
tips or ideas etc. that would be greatly appreciated. Justin:
Does
that
book, "JET, importing diversity.." have any
information that
might
help with
the essay, and the application in general? I think I might try to
pick a
copy up after work today.

Anyway, back to the introduction. I am 24, so not quite fresh out
of uni,
and I have been working for the last 3 years since graduating. I
have never
been to Japan, but I do speak some Japanese, and I have some
family
connections to Japan with my brother"s wife being Japanese.

Thanks, and good luck everyone with their applications.

Nik


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2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
otteer@l... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=6SzY50WoXclMnXrfZHexWcoO4AiviXxwyQnjj1yXpN_H1I6ASTvsv3jXrIq6qbln-BkhfZ8) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 5:10
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] Hello!</font>
<tt>Hi, I"m Eric, 28, working as a computer programmer in Chicago. I sent in my
application a week ago and like everyone and their mom and I wanna be near
Tokyo.

I wasn"t aware of a web submission application, or that they scheduled
interviews so quickly! Is that UK only?

I think in the US you don"t get an interview til well after the new year.

Good luck to you! Please keep us updated on how it goes.

Eric




On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 10:14:20AM -0000, Matt wrote:
Hi everyone!

My name is Matt Griffiths. I live in Swindon, UK. I sent my
application off nice and early, and used the web submission thing,
and I"ve got my interview this Friday. I"ve requested Kinki, Chuba,
Kanto regions, in that order. As you see, I"ve not really any
preference, but I"m hoping for somewhere reasonably central.

Anyway, nice to meet you all, and wish me luck!

Matt



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2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
Justin! [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=Bu_w5TEzen1DgBTGwZr_3u9RetnoMLvOZAFDt0VsRkl5ujzgkK5jN4tthcCI1mBjvlfgd6ZQ7g99KItzt6GxqMI8Ww"]justin@e... (ymsgr:sendIM?atomic98yak) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 5:15
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Hello!</font>
<tt>Hello Eric!

I don"t know the application process in the UK, but on the US
application it specifically states that anything submitted through
the web would NOT be accepted. Our interviews will be in mid to late
February. Good Luck!

-Justin


--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=DjTXEHR7t69o04vS08HpUqVIv1d4FJfdmwfDzcoMkU7YgAbDX3QloqaHHn_Y4vI5tlt6STeGYl-v0bu6inTDvBo), otteer@l... wrote:
Hi, I"m Eric, 28, working as a computer programmer in Chicago. I
sent in my application a week ago and like everyone and their mom and
I wanna be near Tokyo.

I wasn"t aware of a web submission application, or that they
scheduled interviews so quickly! Is that UK only?

I think in the US you don"t get an interview til well after the new
year.

Good luck to you! Please keep us updated on how it goes.

Eric




On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 10:14:20AM -0000, Matt wrote:
Hi everyone!

My name is Matt Griffiths. I live in Swindon, UK. I sent my
application off nice and early, and used the web submission
thing,
and I"ve got my interview this Friday. I"ve requested Kinki,
Chuba,
Kanto regions, in that order. As you see, I"ve not really any
preference, but I"m hoping for somewhere reasonably central.

Anyway, nice to meet you all, and wish me luck!

Matt



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2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
Justin! [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=KtOMW9jCv-DBQKJ6EgoltjwG748oE3Krk9fs979DDYmjCPcg45qu-WsWyNd3dDiCelQ3oG5QJAzbwTnjtjRYOiM"]justin@e... (ymsgr:sendIM?atomic98yak) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 5:21
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: E-mail choices</font>
<tt>Just a note to everyone - I noticed this board is getting a lot of
activity and I think that"s a great thing! So you don"t feel bogged
down with e-mails, remember there are different options such as Daily
Digest (Get all the e-mails from one day inside of one e-mail) or No
E-mail (You can check the e-mails on the group page). I realize most
of you probably know this, I just didn"t want people getting
frustrated that they had to sort through so many e-mails.

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
Justin! [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=NawvVwPhV-jvwgJncFziPeiL8MueRp8u1Zhj-TYgPPAPPpRwMQ2DVeUssCPB0miKihUGGtmjLf7dINKFpEw"]justin@e... (ymsgr:sendIM?atomic98yak) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 5:23
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Hello!</font>
<tt>Matt,

That"s awesome that you"re getting an interview so early. In the US,
we have to wait around a few more months. Does that mean you"ll get
the decision sooner as well? Good luck at the interview - let us
know how it goes!

-Justin


--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=oo7vMVXfREOQx-9mGFH2Aqgzjxzs4dS6-BywsJRip34bj5BncjdUsJ__rY8gIFvGE68CNkbjKH5soo4ZSDqO), Matt dynamisx@b... wrote:
Hi everyone!

My name is Matt Griffiths. I live in Swindon, UK. I sent my
application off nice and early, and used the web submission thing,
and I"ve got my interview this Friday. I"ve requested Kinki, Chuba,
Kanto regions, in that order. As you see, I"ve not really any
preference, but I"m hoping for somewhere reasonably central.

Anyway, nice to meet you all, and wish me luck!

Matt

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
Thomas, Nicholas D [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=tx03YR9UosI-BlUa_YHTdYnKnywHwq8mTS-hbn6ue8QuwhESfoHIJkIfWoMy9AznCxWv_UjrTmS5wvBVAwnXU03XKh6c"]nicholas.thomas@i... (ymsgr:sendIM?nikku_tomasu) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 5:37
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: RE: [2004JET] Re: Hello!</font>
<tt>From the JET UK webpage (http://www.jet-uk.org/application.html)

1. Web Application Form

You can apply online. This method is strongly recommended as it enables
faster administration.

Click here to start. (Secure connection)

The online application can then be accessed through the link,
https://www.jet-uk.org/cgi-bin/Application/AppForm.html

Note, however, that even after applying online you still need to submit all
the documents to the Japanese embassy, as normal. The purpose of the online
appliction is not to replace the regular method, but rather to enable
faster administration

Maybe this is why the UK interviews have started already?

I submitted my online application today. I will follow up by hand delivering
all the appropiate documents to the Embassy in the next day or two.

Nik





-----Original Message-----
From: Justin!
To: 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=wWc8F2AW-1oLbhYFMdLeQQC20eX7NrjZad2UTNVbRERb_zT8oz9V3rMeHB1zn-la5xbipfMO1n1USRpz37eX)
Sent: 26/11/2003 17:15
Subject: [2004JET] Re: Hello!

Hello Eric!

I don"t know the application process in the UK, but on the US
application it specifically states that anything submitted through
the web would NOT be accepted. Our interviews will be in mid to late
February. Good Luck!

-Justin


--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=wWc8F2AW-1oLbhYFMdLeQQC20eX7NrjZad2UTNVbRERb_zT8oz9V3rMeHB1zn-la5xbipfMO1n1USRpz37eX), otteer@l... wrote:
Hi, I"m Eric, 28, working as a computer programmer in Chicago. I
sent in my application a week ago and like everyone and their mom and
I wanna be near Tokyo.

I wasn"t aware of a web submission application, or that they
scheduled interviews so quickly! Is that UK only?

I think in the US you don"t get an interview til well after the new
year.

Good luck to you! Please keep us updated on how it goes.

Eric




On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 10:14:20AM -0000, Matt wrote:
Hi everyone!

My name is Matt Griffiths. I live in Swindon, UK. I sent my
application off nice and early, and used the web submission
thing,
and I"ve got my interview this Friday. I"ve requested Kinki,
Chuba,
Kanto regions, in that order. As you see, I"ve not really any
preference, but I"m hoping for somewhere reasonably central.

Anyway, nice to meet you all, and wish me luck!

Matt



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2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
Peter Honigmann Jr [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=_-zBsPCXtlrnw24_32_77AFLLT61pHgeypswzla_Zz_6Y_h_ew07t0PielCKeCOitGj54jHdOAwtQWMecQdU90nmEKQ"]foleyhonigmann@s... (ymsgr:sendIM?peter_honigmann) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 5:43
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] Hello!</font>
<TT>Hi, I"m Eric, 28, working as a computer programmer in Chicago. I sent in my application a week ago and like everyone and their mom and I wanna be near Tokyo.

I wasn"t aware of a web submission application, or that they scheduled interviews so quickly! Is that UK only?

I think in the US you don"t get an interview til well after the new year.

Good luck to you! Please keep us updated on how it goes.

Eric




On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 10:14:20AM -0000, Matt wrote:
Hi everyone!

My name is Matt Griffiths. I live in Swindon, UK. I sent my
application off nice and early, and used the web submission thing,
and I"ve got my interview this Friday. I"ve requested Kinki, Chuba,
Kanto regions, in that order. As you see, I"ve not really any
preference, but I"m hoping for
somewhere reasonably central.

Anyway, nice to meet you all, and wish me luck!

Matt



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2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
otteer@l... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=TilfrIkyBXTCswB8VzTNtOtJnz3yZvZOzs8-W2cb7kGUBbexXaWmmgz-gi73gWBF1fm_xwbBvw) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 5:51
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] Hello!</font>
<tt>I live in Chicago, Logan Square. What will the JET group do? Where and when
will you meet? Feel free to email me off list if that seems more appropriate.

Eric


On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 09:43:27AM -0800, Peter Honigmann Jr wrote:
Eric:

Do you live in Chicago, or the outlying suburbs? Just curious as I am trying
to
locate people for a JET group in the western suburbs.

I believe you are correct about the US, they do not let you know about the
interviews until January.

Peter

otteer@l... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=-z_NA6HjER_0TC_ootFaMN2aSLVR5t034XPx1SSnILATfzYP4RwGYwUwP5kIFuJV3xnptK-R) wrote:

Hi, I"m Eric, 28, working as a computer programmer in Chicago. I sent in
my application a week ago and like everyone and their mom and I wanna be
near Tokyo.

I wasn"t aware of a web submission application, or that they scheduled
interviews so quickly! Is that UK only?

I think in the US you don"t get an interview til well after the new year.

Good luck to you! Please keep us updated on how it goes.

Eric




On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 10:14:20AM -0000, Matt wrote:
Hi everyone!

My name is Matt Griffiths. I live in Swindon, UK. I sent my
application off nice and early, and used the web submission thing,
and I"ve got my interview this Friday. I"ve requested Kinki, Chuba,
Kanto regions, in that order. As you see, I"ve not really any
preference, but I"m hoping for somewhere reasonably central.

Anyway, nice to meet you all, and wish me luck!

Matt



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2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
<a href="ymsgr:sendIM?dynamisx">http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/online.gif
</a>
Matt dynamisx@b... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=2dqaDmSJKSIHNqWd_wca4Md1_BzWwlZJBUaqoQ8q6V--3YvVqIrtT7UXZ3-Pk_2G-d2CmAmC7_ke6kzrLQ) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 6:07
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Interview</font>
<tt>
Yeah, its nice, but I was kind of expecting it much later, so only a
week"s notice was a bit of a shock. I"m told they started
interviewing early applicants in mid November here in the UK. I doubt
I"ll get my result any earlier, so it just means I get to stew even
longer than everyone else!

As for the web submission: I"m sure its nice for them, but I still
had to send off everything except written proof of my existence
signed by God in quadriplicate. Well, at least I could print off the
application form, instead of revealing my terrible handwriting.

I"ve done some research on interview questions, and at the moment,
I"m sweating trying to decide what to sing if they want to hear me
croak something out. (It filters out the shy ones, apparantly).

Anyway, any tips for the interview gratefully accepted!

Cheers,

Matt


--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=A5WoeX_e8_EWaiBZ9hLpxBgXIHOGjHqiZcYL6PoqHNGMCrmJvH5FGhJY28n3Uq_WQUJNdY3AFQbIpfBElCE), Justin! justin@e... wrote:
Matt,

That"s awesome that you"re getting an interview so early. In the
US,
we have to wait around a few more months. Does that mean you"ll
get
the decision sooner as well? Good luck at the interview - let us
know how it goes!

-Justin


--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=A5WoeX_e8_EWaiBZ9hLpxBgXIHOGjHqiZcYL6PoqHNGMCrmJvH5FGhJY28n3Uq_WQUJNdY3AFQbIpfBElCE), Matt dynamisx@b... wrote:
Hi everyone!

My name is Matt Griffiths. I live in Swindon, UK. I sent my
application off nice and early, and used the web submission
thing,
and I"ve got my interview this Friday. I"ve requested Kinki,
Chuba,
Kanto regions, in that order. As you see, I"ve not really any
preference, but I"m hoping for somewhere reasonably central.

Anyway, nice to meet you all, and wish me luck!

Matt

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
Brento [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=G7KxVHVxCLaD1AlmDkwm5BxH3cPzI_85ogoQZ4_OIWRDijdn7iBbRTfo1ytPJIuLtivzXKY"]bsilk@s... (ymsgr:sendIM?brento1138) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 9:13
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Hello!</font>
<tt>Hey guys. It sounds like each area is different. I"m from Canada,
and there is no such thing as web applications. Also, my due date
for the JET program was much sooner than some, later than others.
Weird eh? Guess different embassies do different things.





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Hi, I"m Eric, 28, working as a computer programmer in Chicago. I
sent in my application a week ago and like everyone and their mom and
I wanna be near Tokyo.

I wasn"t aware of a web submission application, or that they
scheduled interviews so quickly! Is that UK only?

I think in the US you don"t get an interview til well after the new
year.

Good luck to you! Please keep us updated on how it goes.

Eric




On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 10:14:20AM -0000, Matt wrote:
Hi everyone!

My name is Matt Griffiths. I live in Swindon, UK. I sent my
application off nice and early, and used the web submission
thing,
and I"ve got my interview this Friday. I"ve requested Kinki,
Chuba,
Kanto regions, in that order. As you see, I"ve not really any
preference, but I"m hoping for somewhere reasonably central.

Anyway, nice to meet you all, and wish me luck!

Matt



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2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
Brento [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=xVryXMO7HbUQMRuDAjDpoJuRPkBBO3JuePZuEUN_I-XP9p5AYkIQVL0viaEP9pMNhkNKFm4udw"]bsilk@s... (ymsgr:sendIM?brento1138) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 9:23
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Where did you apply to go?</font>
<tt>I applied to go to three different prefectures, and I indicated urban
for my preference.

1. Tochigi Prefecture
2. Chiba Prefecture
3. Kanagawa Prefecture

I was hoping that with this thread, we can meet others who wish to go
to the same areas, and share info on those areas. Please post your
areas too... I am interested!

About Tochigi: I have a friend who has travelled there, and said it
was beautiful. There are many shrines, and ancient things to see
there... it is also a half hour bullet train trip (depending on where
you live) to Tokyo. I also knew a Japanese-citizen girl who I met
here in Canada, who lives there and teaches English, and gets ALTs to
help her teach. I did some tutoring with her a while back, and
learned how it works. Anyhow, she highly recommended the area. It
is just supposed to be extraordinary. And wouldn"t it be funny if by
random chance I got stationed at her school? That would be just too
crazy.

The other two prefectures, Chiba and Kanagawa. I do not know too
much about them, but they are close to some interesting areas and
came recommended from other sources. Anyone hear anything, or know
anything, about Tochigi, Chiba, or Kanagawa?

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
RG Pascual rgpascual@c... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=7Dh4lLW_zhXw5qfbZgc5IcsxBs1Pd45L1G5xIL11zh4KYfAaoH2wjKznybmmUafVgAEVjToQ6zsDKTsG) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 9:39
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] Interview</font>
<tt> As for the web submission: I"m sure its nice for them, but I still
had to send off everything except written proof of my existence
signed by God in quadriplicate.

*chuckle*; It sure seems that way considering the amount of information
the program requires of its applicants. Still, I"ve encountered worse
in my time, so no major complaints here.

Well, at least I could print off the
application form, instead of revealing my terrible handwriting.


Wasn"t sure if I should handwrite or type the application; in corporate
circles, companies use samples of handwriting to pass some evaluation
and judgement of the character and personality of their applicants. I
guess I"ve been staring at this application packet for too long -
perhaps I"m reading too far into it.

I"ve done some research on interview questions, and at the moment,
I"m sweating trying to decide what to sing if they want to hear me
croak something out. (It filters out the shy ones, apparantly).


Sing? That"s unusual. Is there something I"ve missed in the
application, or is this just something you"ve detailed as a skill in
your personal statement? Is it me or are there any folks out there who
are having a bit of trouble writing TWO full pages about oneself? Sure,
I"ve done a lot in my life, but I have to consider keeping that life
story pertinent to the application and the program.

Ganbatte!

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
thatsasin [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=jUt46-vjZiUKhK08ZLi77JHAzG3WMEyVBM-u-DJlyP-xvQs_4VCPF6UXH7dL0h9VnB3DfdXRI_T9wQ"]thatsasin@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?thatsasin) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 9:46
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Where to put Japan internship on application?</font>
<tt>I was a participant in something called the Miyagi Internship, an
exchange program between the state of Delaware and Miyagi Prefecture,
in the summer of 2002. I"m wondering where on my application I should
mention this, because I wanted to go into a little detail regarding my
duties and experiences during the internship. Would putting it under
the Employment History section be appropriate? I was not paid except
for bus/transit fares and startup money. So far I have listed my
current job which I"ve held since 1999. I could list another job I
held briefly in 2002, but it was a webmaster position and not very
relevant to JET.

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
Thomas, Nicholas D [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=5IMe13wqij_kwYYJsQCnsRrfWkrLT7CyBZpedDeIS1JkLxdyN-O4T4yBkeNcCTbSewTULX0rXtO1P4X1PtbLKFgSlJE"]nicholas.thomas@i... (ymsgr:sendIM?nikku_tomasu) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 11:43
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: RE: [2004JET] Where to put Japan internship on application?</font>
<tt> thatsasin ,

I"m no expert, but I would have thought that the essay would be the ideal
place to discuss this. You can then go into quite a lot of detail, talking
about what you accomplished while you were there, what problems you faced,
how you overcame them, and how they relate to who you would be suitable for
JET.

Nik

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I was a participant in something called the Miyagi Internship, an
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mention this, because I wanted to go into a little detail regarding my
duties and experiences during the internship. Would putting it under
the Employment History section be appropriate? I was not paid except
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2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
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Thomas, Nicholas D [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=qntlavqn32kbzJo6ea02usl4tvz7Ywi2fFRkbYiFApqoxwnL8JhbwEnntqeWLd2ZGFSzFMwAk8tmBuGJlx9AnLF9eW4R00AxfA"]nicholas.thomas@i... (ymsgr:sendIM?nikku_tomasu) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 11:52
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Essay</font>
<tt>I am just putting the finishing touches to my essay, and I was just
wondering, how important is it to stick to the brief that they give you?

I find that I have a lot to write about part 1), quite a lot but not as much
for part 2), and next to nothing for part 3). Does it matter if i leave out
part 3 entirely?

I have come across a few sample essays on the internet of past successful
applicants, and they don"t seem to stick to the brief at all (and in fact
were signifcantly shorter than the word count that is recommended). This
leads me to believe one of two things, either a) The brief has changed in
recent years, or possibly is different between embassies, or b) It is really
not important at all to stick to the brief, as long as you can write a
compelling and relevant essay.

I"ve pasted a copy of the brief for the essay below, to remind you, and also
in case it is different from the one you were given. All comments are
welcome.

Note: I am an alt applicant, with little or no teaching experience, so for
me part 3) is basically the imagine you are in front of a class of 40...
bit. This is the main bit I am having trouble with, and tbh am very tempted
to leave it out as none of the sample essays I have seen seem to address
this.

Nik

Essay brief
============

*1 This is your personal statement of between 800 and 1000 words. Your essay
must be typed, font size 12 and double-spaced on A4 paper. It should consist
of three main sections, including the following points:

1) General Statement.
This should set forth your reasons for wishing to participate on the JET
Programme.

2) What can you contribute to the Programme?
* If you have any experience of living abroad for an extended period, what
aspect did you find the most difficult to adapt to? Was there any specific
problem you had to overcome?

* OR if you have not had any experience of living abroad, do you consider
yourself to be adaptable to new circumstances and people? What situations
have you found yourself in that have required such adaptation?

3)For ALT applicants only: Teaching ideas
* If you have some teaching experience, what methods of teaching, classroom
approaches, etc., have you used, and which have you found the most valuable?

* OR, if you have little or no experience, imagine you are in front of a
class of 40 students, many of whom are not interested in studying English.
How would you go about motivating them? What methods or approaches do you
think you might use? What advantages do you think they might have?

For CIR applicants only: Current Affairs
What political or social issues in the UK do you think a Japanese person is
most likely to be interested in and why?

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
<a href="ymsgr:sendIM?dynamisx">http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/online.gif
</a>
Matt dynamisx@b... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=dFYELSdDlUsWpBcKZW6LdIX8IEjy25N2wxcs0FqRrb0C2SjLolOMFE4yt3IcdLgF0qiw2iqB27ydQaA1) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 11:53
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Interview</font>
<tt> Well, at least I could print off the
application form, instead of revealing my terrible handwriting.


Wasn"t sure if I should handwrite or type the application; in
corporate
circles, companies use samples of handwriting to pass some
evaluation
and judgement of the character and personality of their applicants.
I
guess I"ve been staring at this application packet for too long -
perhaps I"m reading too far into it.

My point exactly, nothing good could come of analysing my handwriting.

Sing? That"s unusual. Is there something I"ve missed in the
application, or is this just something you"ve detailed as a skill
in
your personal statement?

A skill? Not unless you count being able to warble an entire song
without hitting ANY of the correct notes. My TESOL trainers assured
me that it won"t affect teaching, since young kids only care about
volume!

I found an interview advice page, and the author warned she was asked
to sing, to see if she was afraid of making a fool of herself in
public. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst!
(http://www.genkistar.com/japan/tips.html)

Is it me or are there any folks out there who
are having a bit of trouble writing TWO full pages about oneself?
Sure,
I"ve done a lot in my life, but I have to consider keeping
that life
story pertinent to the application and the program.

Heh, I struggled to fill a page about myself, so I just waxed on
about my teaching philosophy. I"ve yet to find out if this is a good
thing or not.

As for some top interview tips, I found this page, written by a JET
examiner, and its quite amusing too.
http://karatethejapaneseway.com/articles_on_japan/jet_interview.html

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
Justin! [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=UE2ShL7cxGjEA2YNd0wZbZL0Lta9iaRCGXVzy8DHFxjzgRG5XNHm4Jf7ZYsMef04HzAGinCr-UW2D_ATuICn3Fjy"]justin@e... (ymsgr:sendIM?atomic98yak) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Thu Nov 27, 2003 3:22
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Interview</font>
<tt>
Well, at least I could print off the
application form, instead of revealing my terrible handwriting.


My mother wrote the final draft of my application so it would look
legible. How professional is that?

As for my placement preferences, these were my choices:

1. Otsu, Shiga Prefecture - This is where I did a 9 month
work/study. It is also my fiancee"s hometown. It"s a gorgeous area.

2. Nara - Ancient and Beautiful city. Also, coincides with my
academic field of interest (Tenrikyo)

3. Kobe - Just a wonderful city - and near Kyoto (With probably a
better chance of getting the placement

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
Christopher Ling [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=G9y1kB-D0m4reLl58j-VoHseUP11QcgsMFSa_yXDZHX9gixyOca1RVKOJf6Rf41yYaOWBg7-GCKTJR5JL6gk-7A"]Shinikenshi@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?shinikenshi) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Thu Nov 27, 2003 4:58
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: [2004JET] Japanese animation related employment. Beneficial or not?</font>
<tt>Hmm...while we are on the subject, here"s a moderately interesting
question...

While I was attending university (still am, but anyways) I"ve had two
significant jobs. One is my system administration job at one of the
engineering departments on campus and the other is as vice president of a
company that sells...anime-related stuff.

Now, before we go too far, I realize that mentioning ANYTHING that has to do
with anime is probably gonna get you sunk faster than emphasizing one"s
great and devout appreciation for say...JPOP or Tokyo-like things, but I"m
wondering if I can still use this position to some benefit on my education.

Here"s my spin. Our company imports Japanese comics (specifically fan made
comics called doujinshi ) for American consumption at conventions. Because
of this, time must be actually spent negotiating prices and that sort of
thing. Hence, I could say that the job is pertinent because it shows me how
to interact with the Japanese on a business level, which one could say might
be analagous to working with Japanese students on an academic level.

So is this useful or not? I honestly care not that much for anime and am not
going to the country for that purpose. And the way I see it, had it been any
other product my company was dealing with, this would actually look better.
Oh well.

Any thoughts on this would be mightily appreciated. Since tomorrow is Turkey
Day, I"ve got an extra day to edit my application before I send it out so
hopefully you guys can give me some feedback on this.

Much thanks in advance!

_________________________________________________________________
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2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
Christopher Ling [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=xcMzCm4sXoDdHVC6NYCVqYI9WS2lhbD0ngZDoeSJuzGY929StGDkk_63TqyUQGgezZgAuHOoOIVhjrERqVQuPw"]Shinikenshi@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?shinikenshi) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Thu Nov 27, 2003 4:58
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: [2004JET] Japanese animation related employment. Beneficial or not?</font>
<tt>Hmm...while we are on the subject, here"s a moderately interesting
question...

While I was attending university (still am, but anyways) I"ve had two
significant jobs. One is my system administration job at one of the
engineering departments on campus and the other is as vice president of a
company that sells...anime-related stuff.

Now, before we go too far, I realize that mentioning ANYTHING that has to do
with anime is probably gonna get you sunk faster than emphasizing one"s
great and devout appreciation for say...JPOP or Tokyo-like things, but I"m
wondering if I can still use this position to some benefit on my education.

Here"s my spin. Our company imports Japanese comics (specifically fan made
comics called doujinshi ) for American consumption at conventions. Because
of this, time must be actually spent negotiating prices and that sort of
thing. Hence, I could say that the job is pertinent because it shows me how
to interact with the Japanese on a business level, which one could say might
be analagous to working with Japanese students on an academic level.

So is this useful or not? I honestly care not that much for anime and am not
going to the country for that purpose. And the way I see it, had it been any
other product my company was dealing with, this would actually look better.
Oh well.

Any thoughts on this would be mightily appreciated. Since tomorrow is Turkey
Day, I"ve got an extra day to edit my application before I send it out so
hopefully you guys can give me some feedback on this.

Much thanks in advance!

_________________________________________________________________
Say “goodbye” to busy signals and slow downloads with a high-speed Internet
connection! Prices start at less than $1 a day average.
https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.)

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
Justin! [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=BfdG9VNvXdihcIpJ0Mw43Cy05y5vls4teDKnO9iDzFBj__Rx9zip0ApxnSUc6OkkjXgpu1CVveVUYMtz3e8J"]justin@e... (ymsgr:sendIM?atomic98yak) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Fri Nov 28, 2003 6:12
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Questions...</font>
<tt>I had a couple questions I was hoping the more experienced folks
could answer...

First of all, I have read in different sources that there are often
questions in the interview asking how one would respond to questions
dealing with my opinions on the president/the war/other
controversial issues. I feel that I should give my honest and
direct opinion along with a justification (if asked for) without
shoving it down their throats. I know the tendency in Japanese
Culture is to avoid conflict, and I also prefer to do this, but not
in a way that turns me into an opinionless wishy washy cardboard cut-
out of a person. I"m not confrontational when I give opinions, and
don"t hold mine in higher regard than others". Would the
interviewers look positively on an outlook such as this?

Second, I was curious about how much freedom those of you who were
ALTs had in the classroom. Were you able to create your own lesson
plans at times? Did you have creative input on different
activities? From what I"ve read, each situation is different - I
just wanted to know what your personal experiences were. Thanks!

-Justin

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
RG Pascual rgpascual@c... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=piOydtdes5wxQGz-xtiYbiVEACIQZSGNk3U1qzbDDrBtvUevc6OWPf4nkk5sMKgdbs_CWh7ZEmVpVpXgPYI) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Fri Nov 28, 2003 6:56
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] Questions... Interview and Teaching Situations</font>
<tt> I had a couple questions I was hoping the more experienced folks
could answer...

First of all, I have read in different sources that there are often
questions in the interview asking how one would respond to questions
dealing with my opinions on the president/the war/other
controversial issues. I feel that I should give my honest and
direct opinion along with a justification (if asked for) without
shoving it down their throats. I know the tendency in Japanese
Culture is to avoid conflict, and I also prefer to do this, but not
in a way that turns me into an opinionless wishy washy cardboard cut-
out of a person. I"m not confrontational when I give opinions, and
don"t hold mine in higher regard than others". Would the
interviewers look positively on an outlook such as this?


I doubt that there is ever really a safe answer in an interview
situation. One tip I"ve learned from my experiences in other interview
situations is to gauge the level of your response against the
closeness factor . Interviews are like an open dialogue. In the
beginning, one starts out with superficial stuff and generalities. As
the dialogue continues you start to get feel for what is appropriate
to share and what is just plain out there .

I suppose you could gauge how to respond by evaluating your
interviewers. Do they look like Japanese nationals, or are the more
American ? But that is just too darn lame. If I was an interviewer and
I caught a candidate maneuvering based on what he/she thought of me, I
would find it a turn-off. I know because I have been called (and
hopelessly caught) on that point in the past. While Japanese culture
seems to avoid conflicts, Japanese INDIVIDUALS will vary in
temperament. There is a difference between the two.

It would be rare that an interviewer will ask you about your opinion
then judge you by what you"ve said. It is very likely however, that
they may judge you by your ability to formulate and back up your
opinion. That may involve any number of skills such as logical
reasoning, resourcefulness and so on. For example, if they ask about
your opinion on Japanese politics - the key point ma be to see if you
have even a clue (organization, political figures, names, etc) no the
topic of Japanese Civics.

Second, I was curious about how much freedom those of you who were
ALTs had in the classroom. Were you able to create your own lesson
plans at times? Did you have creative input on different
activities? From what I"ve read, each situation is different - I
just wanted to know what your personal experiences were. Thanks!


Found a good site while searching for sample application essays:

http://www.thejetfiles.com

The author of the site was a JET participant around 2000-2002. He also
provides links to other JET member sites which I found very informative
in the areas that you mention. From one JET member, who worked with
three different teachers, the level of freedom really varied between
individuals and their personalities.

My 2 yen,

Rich

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
Justin! [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=28epW8tzHbSpOyTSVxHq66vV8TtEuaxE8AAijWyD97hm7SWCnrcPD0AlN9daSFSE4gluKj8H0awR_HrNU1_2YfM"]justin@e... (ymsgr:sendIM?atomic98yak) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Fri Nov 28, 2003 8:48
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: 3 Cheers for the US Postal Service</font>
<tt>I was delighted to get a letter from myself, to myself - via the
Japanese Embassy in the mail today. It came only 6 business days (8
days minus Sunday + Thanksgiving) after I mailed the application.
Fantastic! It says I will receive a response letter in late January
or early February regarding my status. The waiting game officially
commences.

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
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</a>
Matt dynamisx@b... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=glYdbffRylS2sRk9mWqRiB-LJHscD1Evl8jIUhcokhN11SgWHjmOKClYX5WQvRN9uUwedtboykah6Q) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Fri Nov 28, 2003 9:19
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Questions... Interview and Teaching Situations</font>
<tt>Hi,

Just had my interview today (London, so may not be so relevant to non-
Brits) but I"ll add my observations anyway.

First, I"d like to say that it was a good deal less painful than I
thought. There were 2 ex-Jets answering questions and telling us to
relax before hand. I was interviewed by only two people -- a JTE, and
a mature ex-JET. Both were very nice, and they didn"t seem to be
trying to catch me out, just asking questions based on my essay, and
what I was saying in the interview. The pre-interview test was a
little tricky, I had difficulty naming a famous sportsperson, but
hey, I couldn"t say who is next in line for the thrown (yes, thrown)
after the Duke of York either!


First of all, I have read in different sources that there are
often
questions in the interview asking how one would respond to
questions
dealing with my opinions on the president/the war/other
controversial issues.

This didn"t really happen to me at all. The only situational question
they asked was along these lines: What would you do if you had great
communicative ideas for a lesson, but the JTE is using you like a
tape recorder. I just said that I would of course co-operate with
the JTE during the lesson, and that I hoped they would be open to
constructive suggestions made politely after the lesson or when
planning new ones.

Second, I was curious about how much freedom those of you who were
ALTs had in the classroom. Were you able to create your own
lesson
plans at times? Did you have creative input on different
activities? From what I"ve read, each situation is different - I
just wanted to know what your personal experiences were. Thanks!


The exJETs I asked about this said that everything depends on the
JTE. Some will let you teach the whole thing yourself, and be happy
for having less work, others see you as a free tape player, and don"t
really want you taking over their lessons.

One interviewer did mention that introducing more communicative
methodology is one of the goals of the JET programme. Whether the JTE
lets this happen is another matter!

Matt

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
<a href="ymsgr:sendIM?dynamisx">http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/online.gif
</a>
Matt dynamisx@b... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=-fslOqEwexVfQ2DGrffllPz5QoXO2G2pKl4nXnevLubRUr4I5R4YzBrkhc12UoP71kfa65G6pm5wJ8o) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Fri Nov 28, 2003 11:26
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Japanese animation related employment. Beneficial or not?</font>
<tt>I think this is definitely a positive thing. Anime is an accepted and
major part of Japanese culture. I was asked 5 questions on Japan for
my pre-interview test, and one was: Name an anime. That you ran an
international business is even better.

Matt

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
hazaaaar [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=bfy3okv5SNxbrf6OI1tzkbIfoP61ambOzUbaBk8pQ9OkEzJtvcAWfxYHCQ2eA6LA5TwYavUeQjf39WNw1w"]hazaaaar@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?hazaaaar) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Nov 29, 2003 2:41
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: other companies for "teaching english in japan"</font>
<tt>hey guys, it sems i just mised the 2004 JET deadline which is very
harsh but i still have my heart set on going to teach english in
japan ater university, which will be the coming summer of 2004
i was wondering what other reputable, companies there are?
i know there are LOTS! but i"m havin trouble finding the right one,
any help or information would be most appreciated.. thanks!

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
Christopher Ling [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=qMrQEiQakIh3K8rsqYP0T_GgMSd1tF09Ns9rnu9CTDcYjh0PA1iOOe0yyh5z4upG-vzOiWNcDQDXxCIyXVGdSGA"]Shinikenshi@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?shinikenshi) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Nov 29, 2003 3:43
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] other companies for "teaching english in japan"</font>
<tt>From what I remember, NOVA and Aeon are goods ones to look to as
alternatives to JET. Nova was on campus at our university in the spring job
fair so perhaps they have local contacts of some sort.

-Chris

_________________________________________________________________
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2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
sjsamurai007 [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=Fwb3fkbsAnHJNPL0x-hPO_w5yPeYycxj4z4u3xC20heczIymrMdNdUEdNILD6g_rvV1nM_neCYXE8Q45F57L"]TomMiskey@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?sjsamurai007) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Nov 29, 2003 7:14
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Questions...</font>
<tt>I think one safe way to answer such a question is to tell HOW
you"d react, not specifically WHAT you"d say. So you might say I"d
try to give as honest and unbiased an opinions as I could on
whatever topic was asked... or something like that. How you might
handle touchy situations is more important than your exact answer to
a single question. I was occasionally asked about US politics, and I
tried to give my honest opinions, always stressing that they were
only my opinions.

Tom


--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=xAIOkyLbh_hh0zEU-_6D6Tg4ZWXuGhVerMrLOtWm8JHQ5NlPNfWG0iv6TBiDIWEmcRyqB7ZhC9yT66LosyIxjQ), Justin! justin@e... wrote:
I had a couple questions I was hoping the more experienced folks
could answer...

First of all, I have read in different sources that there are
often
questions in the interview asking how one would respond to
questions
dealing with my opinions on the president/the war/other
controversial issues. I feel that I should give my honest and
direct opinion along with a justification (if asked for) without
shoving it down their throats. I know the tendency in Japanese
Culture is to avoid conflict, and I also prefer to do this, but
not
in a way that turns me into an opinionless wishy washy cardboard
cut-
out of a person. I"m not confrontational when I give opinions,
and
don"t hold mine in higher regard than others". Would the
interviewers look positively on an outlook such as this?

Second, I was curious about how much freedom those of you who were
ALTs had in the classroom. Were you able to create your own
lesson
plans at times? Did you have creative input on different
activities? From what I"ve read, each situation is different - I
just wanted to know what your personal experiences were. Thanks!

-Justin

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
sjsamurai007 [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=VHyE8EdytCBA8XjOXtNUEnpwVgu0HRFrsQBekjM5axtGGFYKnMa_Ay82hVoMfffiPd7f4nIR5PuCIEc6wi_r"]TomMiskey@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?sjsamurai007) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Nov 29, 2003 7:20
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Japanese animation related employment. Beneficial or not?</font>
<tt>Hi Chris,

One of my main interests in Japan was Japanese anime and manga. I
said that during my interview, and they selected me (though I have
no way of knowing if the comment that I like manga helped, hurt, or
had no effect...) I collected over 1500 manga during my 2 years
there, and shipped them all home at the end. All my students knew I
enjoyed it, and it was often something they enjoyed discussing.
Plus, some manga and anime is very helpful in learning about
Japanese culture, language, and lifestyle. So accentuate the
positive value of it, not the tentacle porn otaku side... ;)

Tom


--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=Lz3FaM0eQa7-Vm-d2cjlqsUHRp0UEVImG4vyezHibuaytvv_uxJeHp5BIa1SU2YTkpxqBUVy808Jhwuv4vzfNg), Christopher Ling
Shinikenshi@h... wrote:
Hmm...while we are on the subject, here"s a moderately interesting
question...

While I was attending university (still am, but anyways) I"ve had
two
significant jobs. One is my system administration job at one of
the
engineering departments on campus and the other is as vice
president of a
company that sells...anime-related stuff.

Now, before we go too far, I realize that mentioning ANYTHING that
has to do
with anime is probably gonna get you sunk faster than emphasizing
one"s
great and devout appreciation for say...JPOP or Tokyo-like things,
but I"m
wondering if I can still use this position to some benefit on my
education.

Here"s my spin. Our company imports Japanese comics (specifically
fan made
comics called doujinshi ) for American consumption at
conventions. Because
of this, time must be actually spent negotiating prices and that
sort of
thing. Hence, I could say that the job is pertinent because it
shows me how
to interact with the Japanese on a business level, which one could
say might
be analagous to working with Japanese students on an academic
level.

So is this useful or not? I honestly care not that much for anime
and am not
going to the country for that purpose. And the way I see it, had
it been any
other product my company was dealing with, this would actually
look better.
Oh well.

Any thoughts on this would be mightily appreciated. Since tomorrow
is Turkey
Day, I"ve got an extra day to edit my application before I send it
out so
hopefully you guys can give me some feedback on this.

Much thanks in advance!

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May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
Thomas, Nicholas D nicholas.thomas@i... (ymsgr:sendIM?nikku_tomasu) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Nov 29, 2003 11:46
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: RE: [2004JET] other companies for "teaching english in japan"</font>
<tt>All these employ people to teach English. Many of them also pay air fares
over to Japan.

[url]www.aeonet.com
www.jetprogramme.org
www.geoscareer.com
www.teachinjapan.com (NOVA)
www.japanbound.com (ECC)
www.westgate.co.jp

You might also be interested in the following links, although they don"t
employ people direct, they do carry adverts for jobs teaching English.

www.ohayosensei.com
www.eltnews.com
www.gaijinpot.com
www.jobsinjapan.com
www.eslcafe.com

Nik

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Subject: [2004JET] other companies for "teaching english in japan"

hey guys, it sems i just mised the 2004 JET deadline which is very
harsh but i still have my heart set on going to teach english in
japan ater university, which will be the coming summer of 2004
i was wondering what other reputable, companies there are?
i know there are LOTS! but i"m havin trouble finding the right one,
any help or information would be most appreciated.. thanks!

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
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</a>
Matt dynamisx@b... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=FYj256cSfvKIUNmVxGfRI9DI2Elmtti13Cs0j9HBED2thODmzMe6SXAFqREvPG472bJGv-d4Bh0v-YM) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Nov 29, 2003 3:44
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: other companies for "teaching english in japan"</font>
<tt>Hi,

I know what you mean, I was originally planning to go with a private
company, since I have to wait a year between graduating and going
with JET. So I looked into it in quite a lot of detail. I"ll make a
few points which I hope are helpful.

A) The teaching is different to JET, as in you will have control of
the whole class, with no other teacher present. The classes will be
smaller though (4 - 12ish). Also, they use effective, modern teaching
techniques. With this in mind, I"d heavily recommend taking a
recognised TEFL course before you go. Especially since the better
companies won"t hire you otherwise. The less respectable companies
will chuck you in a classroom with 3 days observation, then expect
you to teach on your own. The downside is these courses (Trinity
TESOL, Cambridge CELTA, are the two major ones) take a month full
time, and cost around £1000. I took the TESOL myself, and I"ll never
regret it, now I can go anywhere in the world and expect to be able
to find a teaching job.

B) The companies vary a lot too. I looked at NOVA first, because they
had a glossy advert in a graduate magazine. But after a friend joked
that he"d heard NOVA stood for NO VAcation, I had a closer look. Some
of their practices are quite dodgy, and I think they are basically
the McDonald"s of the Japan TEFL world. They take any new graduates,
with no teaching experience, and staff turnover is high. I think Aeon
is a bit better, but I didn"t look at them so much.

For a long time, I planned to go with SaxonCourt, a recruitment
agency who supplies native British english speakers to Shane English
Schools Japan. They rarely hire without qualifications, but they have
a very good reputation among TEFL professionals that I have met. I"m
sure there is a US equivalent.

C) Mostly I"d just recommend being careful, you could easily find
yourself teaching 7 - 8 lessons per day, with little or no training,
and a year"s contract. Anyone who has taught knows that lessons need
preparation, and that"s going to be on your own time, so look
carefully at the maximum contact hours the companies advertise, and
how much preperation time and training they give. Also look at the
holiday arrangements, and how they treat national holidays.

I ditched this idea in the end, because I wanted to get to know my
students for longer than the common 4 week courses at private
schools, and I think JET gives more chances for cultural exchange.
However, if I want to stay in Japan after JET, or if i"m not
selected, I"ll go the private route as well.

Hope my waffle helped a bit,

Matt

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
ahtsai [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=mgiOluWqFzrOhbUfxUvyUHilgfIzYVmggOhY3aefurenGieHkkqtC6lOlvJIry6i6cfh94e8duAJ"]ahtsai@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?ahtsai) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Nov 29, 2003 7:50
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: other companies for "teaching english in japan"</font>
<tt>good day,

new guy on this list. just thought i"d throw in my two cents.

NOVA i"ve heard nothing but bad news about them. Everything from them
treating their teachers (ie you) like crap to stalking you. The
stalking is a result of the company rule that says you"re not to
socialize with your students outside of the class. This i believe was
the reason for a lawsuit against NOVA in Osaka by one of their
teachers. The teacher"s wife was a student at NOVA. Apparently, NOVA
stalk/spies on the teachers sometimes to see if they go out and meet
their students out of the classes.

My japanese friends who worked at NOVA before said the company treats
their teachers like crap and advised against working there for any
reason. Like Matt said, the turn over rate is high...consider that
they higher around 500+ ppl every year. Even a company like Nintendo
or Sega doesn"t higher more than 20-30 new employees every year.

Geos apparently isn"t much different from NOVA. One example that
another Japanese friend of mine who worked at GEOS told me was how
the teachers are forced to sell the textbooks GEOS makes even if they
hate them. Not to mention their service was pretty crap when I went
to one of the offices and asked them if I could apply for a position.
They told me to go to the head office in Osaka (note that i was in
Tokyo at the time).

ECC and AEON i don"t know much about. ECC appears to be fairly good
(IE i haven"t heard anything bad about them). AEON is on the JET
website as an alternative to the JET program. I know there are other
programs similar to JET that other schools/cities handle themsevles.
Yokohama apparently has their own ALT program, but it apparently has
a very bad reputation. If i find information on other ALT/JET
programs in Japan i"ll post the info here.

that"s my two cents...

Andy


--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=i_O7a2UB6OzyiItdlhVYhYnl2l7zMUPdz0_rCucxbs0Zfx_lTqV7xQmKgQz40s1d9IooSUc0fNfbQO2-Laf3), Matt dynamisx@b... wrote:
Hi,

I know what you mean, I was originally planning to go with a
private
company, since I have to wait a year between graduating and going
with JET. So I looked into it in quite a lot of detail. I"ll make a
few points which I hope are helpful.

A) The teaching is different to JET, as in you will have control of
the whole class, with no other teacher present. The classes will be
smaller though (4 - 12ish). Also, they use effective, modern
teaching
techniques. With this in mind, I"d heavily recommend taking a
recognised TEFL course before you go. Especially since the better
companies won"t hire you otherwise. The less respectable companies
will chuck you in a classroom with 3 days observation, then expect
you to teach on your own. The downside is these courses (Trinity
TESOL, Cambridge CELTA, are the two major ones) take a month full
time, and cost around ?000. I took the TESOL myself, and I"ll never
regret it, now I can go anywhere in the world and expect to be able
to find a teaching job.

B) The companies vary a lot too. I looked at NOVA first, because
they
had a glossy advert in a graduate magazine. But after a friend
joked
that he"d heard NOVA stood for NO VAcation, I had a closer look.
Some
of their practices are quite dodgy, and I think they are basically
the McDonald"s of the Japan TEFL world. They take any new
graduates,
with no teaching experience, and staff turnover is high. I think
Aeon
is a bit better, but I didn"t look at them so much.

For a long time, I planned to go with SaxonCourt, a recruitment
agency who supplies native British english speakers to Shane
English
Schools Japan. They rarely hire without qualifications, but they
have
a very good reputation among TEFL professionals that I have met.
I"m
sure there is a US equivalent.

C) Mostly I"d just recommend being careful, you could easily find
yourself teaching 7 - 8 lessons per day, with little or no
training,
and a year"s contract. Anyone who has taught knows that lessons
need
preparation, and that"s going to be on your own time, so look
carefully at the maximum contact hours the companies advertise,
and
how much preperation time and training they give. Also look at the
holiday arrangements, and how they treat national holidays.

I ditched this idea in the end, because I wanted to get to know my
students for longer than the common 4 week courses at private
schools, and I think JET gives more chances for cultural exchange.
However, if I want to stay in Japan after JET, or if i"m not
selected, I"ll go the private route as well.

Hope my waffle helped a bit,

Matt

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
RG Pascual rgpascual@c... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=1RIWzvWwDLqn9Quu7LVxN3BglpeovBtIgUrLk4k-rsO_3jKwJCKDLtnbBKTJ2OVoVOxELSLTXuk83Cgf) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Nov 29, 2003 7:35
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] Re: Japanese animation related employment. Beneficial or not?</font>
<tt>Tom,

I"m glad that being an otaku didn"t count against you... I think that
is something that Western society has struggled with for a long time
(accepting Anime and Manga); Here on the States-side, comic books are
affiliated with childhood and the pre-teen years. Animation is also
treated as kidstuff . I suppose the advisor who suggested to suppress
an interest in Anime was merely acting out of that vein of thought.
Perhaps to someone here, an interest in Anime and Manga may seem
childish or immature. I think that in our excitement, an interest in
getting it right sometimes overrides the simple approach to be
ourselves. After reading many writings, most from former JET
participants, it is very tempting to believe that there is a
cookie-cutter approach to getting accepted.

My 2 yen,
Rich



On Friday, November 28, 2003, at 11:20 PM, sjsamurai007 wrote:

Hi Chris,

One of my main interests in Japan was Japanese anime and manga. I
said that during my interview, and they selected me (though I have
no way of knowing if the comment that I like manga helped, hurt, or
had no effect...) I collected over 1500 manga during my 2 years
there, and shipped them all home at the end. All my students knew I
enjoyed it, and it was often something they enjoyed discussing.
Plus, some manga and anime is very helpful in learning about
Japanese culture, language, and lifestyle. So accentuate the
positive value of it, not the tentacle porn otaku side... ;)

Tom


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Shinikenshi@h... wrote:
Hmm...while we are on the subject, here"s a moderately interesting
question...

While I was attending university (still am, but anyways) I"ve had
two
significant jobs. One is my system administration job at one of
the
engineering departments on campus and the other is as vice
president of a
company that sells...anime-related stuff.

Now, before we go too far, I realize that mentioning ANYTHING that
has to do
with anime is probably gonna get you sunk faster than emphasizing
one"s
great and devout appreciation for say...JPOP or Tokyo-like things,
but I"m
wondering if I can still use this position to some benefit on my
education.

Here"s my spin. Our company imports Japanese comics (specifically
fan made
comics called doujinshi ) for American consumption at
conventions. Because
of this, time must be actually spent negotiating prices and that
sort of
thing. Hence, I could say that the job is pertinent because it
shows me how
to interact with the Japanese on a business level, which one could
say might
be analagous to working with Japanese students on an academic
level.

So is this useful or not? I honestly care not that much for anime
and am not
going to the country for that purpose. And the way I see it, had
it been any
other product my company was dealing with, this would actually
look better.
Oh well.

Any thoughts on this would be mightily appreciated. Since tomorrow
is Turkey
Day, I"ve got an extra day to edit my application before I send it
out so
hopefully you guys can give me some feedback on this.

Much thanks in advance!

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2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
Christopher Ling [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=LBcPi7FA5E6pfuecpZjCTmLgh6fSUCmuqqvIb7bykZkq-ySrCH5z5eI-EwZ_tvyteDA6BvkKoUFAQ0B4k_jN7BaN"]Shinikenshi@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?shinikenshi) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sun Nov 30, 2003 12:31
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] Re: Japanese animation related employment. Beneficial or not?</font>
<tt>My problem with talking about my job is that from dealing with customers at
anime conventions, I feel that it seems so easy to lump anyone and everyone
as part of this otaku /geek crowd. One can argue how anime and manga can be
on a higher level of intellectual importance and all than American cartoons
but I honestly couldn"t believe that the JET recruiters would care.

But yeah, it seems that I am trying to put a real systematic spin on how to
get into JET. Oh well. It was sent out the day before without the addition
so here"s hoping my other skills are enough for the job. ;)

-Chris

Tom,

I"m glad that being an otaku didn"t count against you... I think that
is something that Western society has struggled with for a long time
(accepting Anime and Manga); Here on the States-side, comic books are
affiliated with childhood and the pre-teen years. Animation is also
treated as kidstuff . I suppose the advisor who suggested to suppress
an interest in Anime was merely acting out of that vein of thought.
Perhaps to someone here, an interest in Anime and Manga may seem
childish or immature. I think that in our excitement, an interest in
getting it right sometimes overrides the simple approach to be
ourselves. After reading many writings, most from former JET
participants, it is very tempting to believe that there is a
cookie-cutter approach to getting accepted.

My 2 yen,
Rich



On Friday, November 28, 2003, at 11:20 PM, sjsamurai007 wrote:

Hi Chris,

One of my main interests in Japan was Japanese anime and manga. I
said that during my interview, and they selected me (though I have
no way of knowing if the comment that I like manga helped, hurt, or
had no effect...) I collected over 1500 manga during my 2 years
there, and shipped them all home at the end. All my students knew I
enjoyed it, and it was often something they enjoyed discussing.
Plus, some manga and anime is very helpful in learning about
Japanese culture, language, and lifestyle. So accentuate the
positive value of it, not the tentacle porn otaku side... ;)

Tom

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Matt dynamisx@b... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=2KAnnaxUZ1r4DxqFiFyRx0aY8oGIC6VGt0mcWMZWOR2OOV5vmx23cKhi1ulkP-T1uU6uL5ygXGFiT-AUxQ) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 12:53
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Japanese animation related employment. Beneficial or not?</font>
<tt> My problem with talking about my job is that from dealing with
customers at anime conventions, I feel that it seems so easy to
lump anyone and everyone as part of this otaku /geek crowd. One
can argue how anime and manga can be on a higher level of
intellectual importance and all than American cartoons but I
honestly couldn"t believe that the JET recruiters would care.

I"d say that holds for an interview by westerners. However, as far as
I know, most interview are done by 3 people, all familiar with japan,
and at least one native. So they all know and understand the
respectable status of anime and manga in japan.

I mentioned Hikaru no Go when asked how I got started playing Go,
and the JTE interviewer recognised it immediately.

Well, I guess the most important thing is to go with what you"re
comfortable with.

Matt

PS. Any Go players here?

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
ahtsai [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=MiGMs9xIsGjse8yBKb-LrrLKr2Sfvpq7J_NQAyvWJGkxlHxFXHmXOfzA3_eOijudLnMsci5kvStt"]ahtsai@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?ahtsai) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 9:35
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Japanese animation related employment. Beneficial or not?</font>
<tt> I"d say that holds for an interview by westerners. However, as far
as
I know, most interview are done by 3 people, all familiar with
japan,
and at least one native. So they all know and understand the
respectable status of anime and manga in japan.

I mentioned Hikaru no Go when asked how I got started playing Go,
and the JTE interviewer recognised it immediately.

Well, I guess the most important thing is to go with what you"re
comfortable with.

Matt

PS. Any Go players here?

From what i understand the interviews (in the US) are generally done
by 3 or 4 ppl. One from the consolate, one a local member of the
japanese community, and one a former JET. Some say that they do the
good-guy-bad-guy thing, but I dont" know for sure. perhaps those of
you that"s been through the interview can tell us more?

In regards to Chris" original question, I think most of us in the
west tends to have a slightly biased view of Japan and their views
towards anime/manga. Yes that"s the country where it"s from and all
that. But that doesn"t mean it"s accepted as high art and what not.
It"s just there, that"s it. It"s still a kids thing. Virtually all of
my Japanese friends (not the jpn-americans the jpn-jpn ones), point
out that in Japan it"s still considered weird and geeky to read manga
and play games for an adult. Hence the title of an otaku as something
of a geek/nerd. Go watch Otaku no Video if you need an idea.

In short, manga/anime shows interest in japan yes. But is it treated
like it"s high art? No. It"s best IMHO to use interest in anime/manga
as something that got you interested in Japan and led to other
interested. Like igo (Go).

Andy
PS: I dont" play igo...but i want to learn it given the chance and
yes HikaGo is the reason for me as well ^^;;;

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
ahtsai [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=f0tISKbilQEwhwJZBksFhTCGEliWH_FWpZ6j45pUxLc3-j2W6Eh8cT6Kt20tIjLU8VRZ0OeV"]ahtsai@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?ahtsai) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 10:27
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: interesting new bit</font>
<tt>http://www.zakzak.co.jp/top/t-2003_12/1t2003120130.html

Saw this while browsing though my jpn sites. Basically a news story
about the results of a hearing in Yamagata Prefecture. The hearing
was for a 22 year old guy who beat his mother (47) to death with a
wooden bat as a result of anime.

Apparently, back in high school, the accused was sympathetic(?) with
lines like the ultimate result of evolution is destruction from
Neon Genesis Evangelion. As well as, the idea that mankind are a
violent creature that destories everything around them . Eventually
all of this led to his interest in murder. The day that he commmited
the crime, he was suffeing from problems at work, pushing him over
the edge and the murder rampage starting with his family.

The distric attorny (judge?) said that even though they had the
accused go through psychology tests due to comments like the
population of mankind needs to be decreased or else... , but he is
still responsible for the criminal acts that he commited (had to
fudge the last part of the trans cuz i"m not familiar with all the
legal terms).

If i remember correctly, there were also a couple of case in the last
decade that contributed to a fairly negative image of anime/manga in
japan. There was one of a boy that cut off his school mate"s head and
stuck it on a fence about 6 or 7 years ago. As well as the arrest of
a well known director (the guy that worked on Starblazer i thihnk),
for illegal arms charges...he had howizer shells as well as enough
munition for a small army in his car and home. All of this were in
the last decade.

Andy

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From: Peter Honigmann Jr <foleyhonigmann@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 3:37 pm
Subject: JET alternatives


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Here is my input on this topic, for what it is worth.


I worked for a private language school on Miyako island called W.E. Center - which had three other schools on Okinawa. We met with an American working for them in Madison, Wisconsin, and he seemed like a nice enough guy and the job sounded good. And for the most part it was pretty good, compared to what I have heard about the other big programs, most which have been mentioned already. Howvever, there were problems, as well as promises made and not kept.

The real problem is that no matter how good things sound over here, once you get to Japan and find the reality to be different, you are in a tight spot. It can be difficult to change jobs once you are there, especially if the employer you are working for is your sponsor.

The only suggestion I have is to speak with others who have worked with some of these programs, you can find a lot of info on the web, and see what they have to say about them. The other option is to work directly for a school that is looking to hire teachers on a JET-like system. Apparently schools will host a JET teacher and then like the idea, but not like the constant change in teachers, and decide to hire people directly.

For some good opportunities I recommend looking at this web page: http://www.ohayosensei.com/

They have a lot of job opportunities, some for people already in Japan, but many for others looking to get over there.

But far and away I still believe the JET program is the best way to go, even though the process takes time, because it is well structured and works pretty well.

Peter



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Topics in this digest:

1. Re: other companies for 'teaching english in japan'
From: "Matt"
2. Re: other companies for 'teaching english in japan'
From: "ahtsai"
3. Re: Re: Japanese animation related employment. Beneficial or not?
From: RG Pascual
4. Re: Re: Japanese animation related employment. Beneficial or not?
From: "Christopher Ling"



Message: 1
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:44:12 -0000
From: "Matt"
Subject: Re: other companies for 'teaching english in japan'

Hi,

I know what you mean, I was originally planning to go with a private
company, since I have to wait a year between graduating and going
with JET. So I looked into it in quite a lot of detail. I'll make a
few points which I hope are helpful.

A) The teaching is different to JET, as in you will have control of
the whole class, with no other teacher present. The classes will be
smaller though (4 - 12ish). Also, they use effective, modern teaching
techniques. With this in mind, I'd heavily recommend taking a
recognised TEFL course before you go. Especially since the better
companies won't hire you otherwise. The less respectable companies
will chuck you in a classroom with 3 days observation, then expect
you to teach on your own. The downside is these courses (Trinity
TESOL, Cambridge CELTA, are the two major ones) take a month full
time, and cost around £1000. I took the TESOL myself, and I'll never
regret it, now I can go anywhere in the world and expect to be able
to find a teaching job.

B) The companies vary a lot too. I looked at NOVA first, because they
had a glossy advert in a graduate magazine. But after a friend joked
that he'd heard NOVA stood for NO VAcation, I had a closer look. Some
of their practices are quite dodgy, and I think they are basically
the McDonald's of the Japan TEFL world. They take any new graduates,
with no teaching experience, and staff turnover is high. I think Aeon
is a bit better, but I didn't look at them so much.

For a long time, I planned to go with SaxonCourt, a recruitment
agency who supplies native British english speakers to Shane English
Schools Japan. They rarely hire without qualifications, but they have
a very good reputation among TEFL professionals that I have met. I'm
sure there is a US equivalent.

C) Mostly I'd just recommend being careful, you could easily find
yourself teaching 7 - 8 lessons per day, with little or no training,
and a year's contract. Anyone who has taught knows that lessons need
preparation, and that's going to be on your own time, so look
carefully at the maximum "contact hours" the companies advertise, and
how much preperation time and training they give. Also look at the
holiday arrangements, and how they treat national holidays.

I ditched this idea in the end, because I wanted to get to know my
students for longer than the common 4 week courses at private
schools, and I think JET gives more chances for cultural exchange.
However, if I want to stay in Japan after JET, or if i'm not
selected, I'll go the private route as well.

Hope my waffle helped a bit,

Matt




Message: 2
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:50:01 -0000
From: "ahtsai"
Subject: Re: other companies for 'teaching english in japan'

good day,

new guy on this list. just thought i'd throw in my two cents.

NOVA i've heard nothing but bad news about them. Everything from them
treating their teachers (ie you) like crap to stalking you. The
stalking is a result of the company rule that says you're not to
socialize with your students outside of the class. This i believe was
the reason for a lawsuit against NOVA in Osaka by one of their
teachers. The teacher's wife was a student at NOVA. Apparently, NOVA
stalk/spies on the teachers sometimes to see if they go out and meet
their students out of the classes.

My japanese friends who worked at NOVA before said the company treats
their teachers like crap and advised against working there for any
reason. Like Matt said, the turn over rate is high...consider that
they higher around 500+ ppl every year. Even a company like Nintendo
or Sega doesn't higher more than 20-30 new employees every year.

Geos apparently isn't much different from NOVA. One example that
another Japanese friend of mine who worked at GEOS told me was how
the teachers are forced to sell the textbooks GEOS makes even if they
hate them. Not to mention their service was pretty crap when I went
to one of the offices and asked them if I could apply for a position.
They told me to go to the head office in Osaka (note that i was in
Tokyo at the time).

ECC and AEON i don't know much about. ECC appears to be fairly good
(IE i haven't heard anything bad about them). AEON is on the JET
website as an alternative to the JET program. I know there are other
programs similar to JET that other schools/cities handle themsevles.
Yokohama apparently has their own ALT program, but it apparently has
a very bad reputation. If i find information on other ALT/JET
programs in Japan i'll post the info here.

that's my two cents...

Andy


--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com, "Matt" wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I know what you mean, I was originally planning to go with a
private
> company, since I have to wait a year between graduating and going
> with JET. So I looked into it in quite a lot of detail. I'll make a
> few points which I hope are helpful.
>
> A) The teaching is different to JET, as in you will have control of
> the whole class, with no other teacher present. The classes will be
> smaller though (4 - 12ish). Also, they use effective, modern
teaching
> techniques. With this in mind, I'd heavily recommend taking a
> recognised TEFL course before you go. Especially since the better
> companies won't hire you otherwise. The less respectable companies
> will chuck you in a classroom with 3 days observation, then expect
> you to teach on your own. The downside is these courses (Trinity
> TESOL, Cambridge CELTA, are the two major ones) take a month full
> time, and cost around ?000. I took the TESOL myself, and I'll never
> regret it, now I can go anywhere in the world and expect to be able
> to find a teaching job.
>
> B) The companies vary a lot too. I looked at NOVA first, because
they
> had a glossy advert in a graduate magazine. But after a friend
joked
> that he'd heard NOVA stood for NO VAcation, I had a closer look.
Some
> of their practices are quite dodgy, and I think they are basically
> the McDonald's of the Japan TEFL world. They take any new
graduates,
> with no teaching experience, and staff turnover is high. I think
Aeon
> is a bit better, but I didn't look at them so much.
>
> For a long time, I planned to go with SaxonCourt, a recruitment
> agency who supplies native British english speakers to Shane
English
> Schools Japan. They rarely hire without qualifications, but they
have
> a very good reputation among TEFL professionals that I have met.
I'm
> sure there is a US equivalent.
>
> C) Mostly I'd just recommend being careful, you could easily find
> yourself teaching 7 - 8 lessons per day, with little or no
training,
> and a year's contract. Anyone who has taught knows that lessons
need
> preparation, and that's going to be on your own time, so look
> carefully at the maximum "contact hours" the companies advertise,
and
> how much preperation time and training they give. Also look at the
> holiday arrangements, and how they treat national holidays.
>
> I ditched this idea in the end, because I wanted to get to know my
> students for longer than the common 4 week courses at private
> schools, and I think JET gives more chances for cultural exchange.
> However, if I want to stay in Japan after JET, or if i'm not
> selected, I'll go the private route as well.
>
> Hope my waffle helped a bit,
>
> Matt




Message: 3
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:35:03 -0800
From: RG Pascual
Subject: Re: Re: Japanese animation related employment. Beneficial or not?

Tom,

I'm glad that being an "otaku" didn't count against you... I think that
is something that Western society has struggled with for a long time
(accepting Anime and Manga); Here on the States-side, comic books are
affiliated with childhood and the pre-teen years. Animation is also
treated as "kidstuff". I suppose the advisor who suggested to suppress
an interest in Anime was merely acting out of that vein of thought.
Perhaps to someone here, an interest in Anime and Manga may seem
childish or immature. I think that in our excitement, an interest in
"getting it right" sometimes overrides the simple approach to be
ourselves. After reading many writings, most from former JET
participants, it is very tempting to believe that there is a
cookie-cutter approach to getting accepted.

My 2 yen,
Rich



On Friday, November 28, 2003, at 11:20 PM, sjsamurai007 wrote:

> Hi Chris,
>
> One of my main interests in Japan was Japanese anime and manga. I
> said that during my interview, and they selected me (though I have
> no way of knowing if the comment that I like manga helped, hurt, or
> had no effect...) I collected over 1500 manga during my 2 years
> there, and shipped them all home at the end. All my students knew I
> enjoyed it, and it was often something they enjoyed discussing.
> Plus, some manga and anime is very helpful in learning about
> Japanese culture, language, and lifestyle. So accentuate the
> positive value of it, not the "tentacle porn otaku" side... ;)
>
> Tom
>
>
> --- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com, "Christopher Ling"
> wrote:
>> Hmm...while we are on the subject, here's a moderately interesting
>> question...
>>
>> While I was attending university (still am, but anyways) I've had
> two
>> significant jobs. One is my system administration job at one of
> the
>> engineering departments on campus and the other is as vice
> president of a
>> company that sells...anime-related stuff.
>>
>> Now, before we go too far, I realize that mentioning ANYTHING that
> has to do
>> with anime is probably gonna get you sunk faster than emphasizing
> one's
>> great and devout appreciation for say...JPOP or Tokyo-like things,
> but I'm
>> wondering if I can still use this position to some benefit on my
> education.
>>
>> Here's my spin. Our company imports Japanese comics (specifically
> fan made
>> comics called "doujinshi") for American consumption at
> conventions. Because
>> of this, time must be actually spent negotiating prices and that
> sort of
>> thing. Hence, I could say that the job is pertinent because it
> shows me how
>> to interact with the Japanese on a business level, which one could
> say might
>> be analagous to working with Japanese students on an academic
> level.
>>
>> So is this useful or not? I honestly care not that much for anime
> and am not
>> going to the country for that purpose. And the way I see it, had
> it been any
>> other product my company was dealing with, this would actually
> look better.
>> Oh well.
>>
>> Any thoughts on this would be mightily appreciated. Since tomorrow
> is Turkey
>> Day, I've got an extra day to edit my application before I send it
> out so
>> hopefully you guys can give me some feedback on this.
>>
>> Much thanks in advance!
>>
>
>

Message: 4
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:31:34 -0800
From: "Christopher Ling"
Subject: Re: Re: Japanese animation related employment. Beneficial or not?

My problem with talking about my job is that from dealing with customers at
anime conventions, I feel that it seems so easy to lump anyone and everyone
as part of this "otaku"/geek crowd. One can argue how anime and manga can be
on a higher level of intellectual importance and all than American cartoons
but I honestly couldn't believe that the JET recruiters would care.

But yeah, it seems that I am trying to put a real systematic spin on how to
get into JET. Oh well. It was sent out the day before without the addition
so here's hoping my other skills are enough for the job. ;)

-Chris

>Tom,
>
>I'm glad that being an "otaku" didn't count against you... I think that
>is something that Western society has struggled with for a long time
>(accepting Anime and Manga); Here on the States-side, comic books are
>affiliated with childhood and the pre-teen years. Animation is also
>treated as "kidstuff". I suppose the advisor who suggested to suppress
>an interest in Anime was merely acting out of that vein of thought.
>Perhaps to someone here, an interest in Anime and Manga may seem
>childish or immature. I think that in our excitement, an interest in
>"getting it right" sometimes overrides the simple approach to be
>ourselves. After reading many writings, most from former JET
>participants, it is very tempting to believe that there is a
>cookie-cutter approach to getting accepted.
>
>My 2 yen,
>Rich
>
>
>
>On Friday, November 28, 2003, at 11:20 PM, sjsamurai007 wrote:
>
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> > One of my main interests in Japan was Japanese anime and manga. I
> > said that during my interview, and they selected me (though I have
> > no way of knowing if the comment that I like manga helped, hurt, or
> > had no effect...) I collected over 1500 manga during my 2 years
> > there, and shipped them all home at the end. All my students knew I
> > enjoyed it, and it was often something they enjoyed discussing.
> > Plus, some manga and anime is very helpful in learning about
> > Japanese culture, language, and lifestyle. So accentuate the
> > positive value of it, not the "tentacle porn otaku" side... ;)
> >
> > Tom

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
<a href="ymsgr:sendIM?dynamisx">http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/online.gif
</a>
Matt dynamisx@b... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=vddx0LE7fXIRHTwI6U8f7AkQnpddA2wKZ9bjzbBU-5BV2h-JtOg9oGCnHLynpGdrPC1QUbiJUal7vg) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 4:06
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: interesting new bit</font>
<tt>Hi,

I don"t want to get into an argument, but I feel you are missing the
point entirely. Exactly the same things happen in the West, but with
television. Reference the James Bulger case in the UK a few years
ago, where children murdered a younger child, taking inspiration from
a horror movie (Chucky"s Revenge, or something). The whole point
being that Anime is viewed in Japan the same as mainstream television
is here in the West. So admitting to being an Anime addict is the
same as admitting to being a television addict. Of course, I doubt
admitting to being a tele-addict is what you want in your JET
interview, but at least its Japanese television.

If you say you like Pokemon, then its as if you said you watch kid"s
cartoons, but there is plenty of mainsteam stuff. Mononoke Hime
(Princess Mononoke) grossed more than Titanic in the Japanese box
office, and 12 million people went to see it. This was later beaten
by Evangelion:Death and Rebirth , another Anime.

Anyway, I think we"ve wandered quite a way from the topic, and if I
wasn"t bored at work, I"d never have written all this rubbish.

Matt

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
ahtsai [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=Hkx_aDDYwwSQiOmECyUIsopvAbdE9ZdpWuXUiNdM9AkCzZjiWiurmUmv9S5oPIANl8fWiarx"]ahtsai@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?ahtsai) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 8:13
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: JET alternatives</font>
<tt>Here"s another site that I came across on the net that might help(?)

http://www.letsjapan.org/

Hope this isn"t making me sound like i"m only pointing out all the
bad stuff ^^;;



--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=8rfnEUtDCZAvakUF4M6Mm9-SabppMWrZ_iKx7ke8bZ52GYX4Y1n0-F263ZW1pa7VoO3NliQCXOhEOVf7ji4), Peter Honigmann Jr
foleyhonigmann@s... wrote:
Here is my input on this topic, for what it is worth.


I worked for a private language school on Miyako island called W.E.
Center - which had three other schools on Okinawa. We met with an
American working for them in Madison, Wisconsin, and he seemed like a
nice enough guy and the job sounded good. And for the most part it
was pretty good, compared to what I have heard about the other big
programs, most which have been mentioned already. Howvever, there
were problems, as well as promises made and not kept.

The real problem is that no matter how good things sound over here,
once you get to Japan and find the reality to be different, you are
in a tight spot. It can be difficult to change jobs once you are
there, especially if the employer you are working for is your sponsor.

The only suggestion I have is to speak with others who have worked
with some of these programs, you can find a lot of info on the web,
and see what they have to say about them. The other option is to work
directly for a school that is looking to hire teachers on a JET-like
system. Apparently schools will host a JET teacher and then like the
idea, but not like the constant change in teachers, and decide to
hire people directly.

For some good opportunities I recommend looking at this web page:
http://www.ohayosensei.com/

They have a lot of job opportunities, some for people already in
Japan, but many for others looking to get over there.

But far and away I still believe the JET program is the best way to
go, even though the process takes time, because it is well structured
and works pretty well.

Peter



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There are 4 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: other companies for "teaching english in japan"
From: Matt
2. Re: other companies for "teaching english in japan"
From: ahtsai
3. Re: Re: Japanese animation related employment. Beneficial or not?
From: RG Pascual
4. Re: Re: Japanese animation related employment. Beneficial or not?
From: Christopher Ling


Message: 1
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:44:12 -0000
From: Matt
Subject: Re: other companies for "teaching english in japan"

Hi,

I know what you mean, I was originally planning to go with a
private
company, since I have to wait a year between graduating and going
with JET. So I looked into it in quite a lot of detail. I"ll make a
few points which I hope are helpful.

A) The teaching is different to JET, as in you will have control of
the whole class, with no other teacher present. The classes will be
smaller though (4 - 12ish). Also, they use effective, modern
teaching
techniques. With this in mind, I"d heavily recommend taking a
recognised TEFL course before you go. Especially since the better
companies won"t hire you otherwise. The less respectable companies
will chuck you in a classroom with 3 days observation, then expect
you to teach on your own. The downside is these courses (Trinity
TESOL, Cambridge CELTA, are the two major ones) take a month full
time, and cost around £1000. I took the TESOL myself, and I"ll
never
regret it, now I can go anywhere in the world and expect to be able
to find a teaching job.

B) The companies vary a lot too. I looked at NOVA first, because
they
had a glossy advert in a graduate magazine. But after a friend
joked
that he"d heard NOVA stood for NO VAcation, I had a closer look.
Some
of their practices are quite dodgy, and I think they are basically
the McDonald"s of the Japan TEFL world. They take any new
graduates,
with no teaching experience, and staff turnover is high. I think
Aeon
is a bit better, but I didn"t look at them so much.

For a long time, I planned to go with SaxonCourt, a recruitment
agency who supplies native British english speakers to Shane
English
Schools Japan. They rarely hire without qualifications, but they
have
a very good reputation among TEFL professionals that I have met.
I"m
sure there is a US equivalent.

C) Mostly I"d just recommend being careful, you could easily find
yourself teaching 7 - 8 lessons per day, with little or no
training,
and a year"s contract. Anyone who has taught knows that lessons
need
preparation, and that"s going to be on your own time, so look
carefully at the maximum contact hours the companies advertise,
and
how much preperation time and training they give. Also look at the
holiday arrangements, and how they treat national holidays.

I ditched this idea in the end, because I wanted to get to know my
students for longer than the common 4 week courses at private
schools, and I think JET gives more chances for cultural exchange.
However, if I want to stay in Japan after JET, or if i"m not
selected, I"ll go the private route as well.

Hope my waffle helped a bit,

Matt


Message: 2
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:50:01 -0000
From: ahtsai
Subject: Re: other companies for "teaching english in japan"

good day,

new guy on this list. just thought i"d throw in my two cents.

NOVA i"ve heard nothing but bad news about them. Everything from
them
treating their teachers (ie you) like crap to stalking you. The
stalking is a result of the company rule that says you"re not to
socialize with your students outside of the class. This i believe
was
the reason for a lawsuit against NOVA in Osaka by one of their
teachers. The teacher"s wife was a student at NOVA. Apparently,
NOVA
stalk/spies on the teachers sometimes to see if they go out and
meet
their students out of the classes.

My japanese friends who worked at NOVA before said the company
treats
their teachers like crap and advised against working there for any
reason. Like Matt said, the turn over rate is high...consider that
they higher around 500+ ppl every year. Even a company like
Nintendo
or Sega doesn"t higher more than 20-30 new employees every year.

Geos apparently isn"t much different from NOVA. One example that
another Japanese friend of mine who worked at GEOS told me was how
the teachers are forced to sell the textbooks GEOS makes even if
they
hate them. Not to mention their service was pretty crap when I went
to one of the offices and asked them if I could apply for a
position.
They told me to go to the head office in Osaka (note that i was in
Tokyo at the time).

ECC and AEON i don"t know much about. ECC appears to be fairly good
(IE i haven"t heard anything bad about them). AEON is on the JET
website as an alternative to the JET program. I know there are
other
programs similar to JET that other schools/cities handle
themsevles.
Yokohama apparently has their own ALT program, but it apparently
has
a very bad reputation. If i find information on other ALT/JET
programs in Japan i"ll post the info here.

that"s my two cents...

Andy


--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=8rfnEUtDCZAvakUF4M6Mm9-SabppMWrZ_iKx7ke8bZ52GYX4Y1n0-F263ZW1pa7VoO3NliQCXOhEOVf7ji4), Matt wrote:
Hi,

I know what you mean, I was originally planning to go with a
private
company, since I have to wait a year between graduating and going
with JET. So I looked into it in quite a lot of detail. I"ll make
a
few points which I hope are helpful.

A) The teaching is different to JET, as in you will have control
of
the whole class, with no other teacher present. The classes will
be
smaller though (4 - 12ish). Also, they use effective, modern
teaching
techniques. With this in mind, I"d heavily recommend taking a
recognised TEFL course before you go. Especially since the better
companies won"t hire you otherwise. The less respectable
companies
will chuck you in a classroom with 3 days observation, then
expect
you to teach on your own. The downside is these courses (Trinity
TESOL, Cambridge CELTA, are the two major ones) take a month full
time, and cost around ?000. I took the TESOL myself, and I"ll
never
regret it, now I can go anywhere in the world and expect to be
able
to find a teaching job.

B) The companies vary a lot too. I looked at NOVA first, because
they
had a glossy advert in a graduate magazine. But after a friend
joked
that he"d heard NOVA stood for NO VAcation, I had a closer look.
Some
of their practices are quite dodgy, and I think they are
basically
the McDonald"s of the Japan TEFL world. They take any new
graduates,
with no teaching experience, and staff turnover is high. I think
Aeon
is a bit better, but I didn"t look at them so much.

For a long time, I planned to go with SaxonCourt, a recruitment
agency who supplies native British english speakers to Shane
English
Schools Japan. They rarely hire without qualifications, but they
have
a very good reputation among TEFL professionals that I have met.
I"m
sure there is a US equivalent.

C) Mostly I"d just recommend being careful, you could easily find
yourself teaching 7 - 8 lessons per day, with little or no
training,
and a year"s contract. Anyone who has taught knows that lessons
need
preparation, and that"s going to be on your own time, so look
carefully at the maximum contact hours the companies advertise,
and
how much preperation time and training they give. Also look at
the
holiday arrangements, and how they treat national holidays.

I ditched this idea in the end, because I wanted to get to know
my
students for longer than the common 4 week courses at private
schools, and I think JET gives more chances for cultural
exchange.
However, if I want to stay in Japan after JET, or if i"m not
selected, I"ll go the private route as well.

Hope my waffle helped a bit,

Matt





Message: 3
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:35:03 -0800
From: RG Pascual
Subject: Re: Re: Japanese animation related employment. Beneficial
or not?

Tom,

I"m glad that being an otaku didn"t count against you... I think
that
is something that Western society has struggled with for a long
time
(accepting Anime and Manga); Here on the States-side, comic books
are
affiliated with childhood and the pre-teen years. Animation is also
treated as kidstuff . I suppose the advisor who suggested to
suppress
an interest in Anime was merely acting out of that vein of thought.
Perhaps to someone here, an interest in Anime and Manga may seem
childish or immature. I think that in our excitement, an interest
in
getting it right sometimes overrides the simple approach to be
ourselves. After reading many writings, most from former JET
participants, it is very tempting to believe that there is a
cookie-cutter approach to getting accepted.

My 2 yen,
Rich



On Friday, November 28, 2003, at 11:20 PM, sjsamurai007 wrote:

Hi Chris,

One of my main interests in Japan was Japanese anime and manga. I
said that during my interview, and they selected me (though I have
no way of knowing if the comment that I like manga helped, hurt,
or
had no effect...) I collected over 1500 manga during my 2 years
there, and shipped them all home at the end. All my students knew
I
enjoyed it, and it was often something they enjoyed discussing.
Plus, some manga and anime is very helpful in learning about
Japanese culture, language, and lifestyle. So accentuate the
positive value of it, not the tentacle porn otaku side... ;)

Tom


--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=8rfnEUtDCZAvakUF4M6Mm9-SabppMWrZ_iKx7ke8bZ52GYX4Y1n0-F263ZW1pa7VoO3NliQCXOhEOVf7ji4), Christopher Ling
wrote:
Hmm...while we are on the subject, here"s a moderately
interesting
question...

While I was attending university (still am, but anyways) I"ve had
two
significant jobs. One is my system administration job at one of
the
engineering departments on campus and the other is as vice
president of a
company that sells...anime-related stuff.

Now, before we go too far, I realize that mentioning ANYTHING
that
has to do
with anime is probably gonna get you sunk faster than emphasizing
one"s
great and devout appreciation for say...JPOP or Tokyo-like
things,
but I"m
wondering if I can still use this position to some benefit on my
education.

Here"s my spin. Our company imports Japanese comics (specifically
fan made
comics called doujinshi ) for American consumption at
conventions. Because
of this, time must be actually spent negotiating prices and that
sort of
thing. Hence, I could say that the job is pertinent because it
shows me how
to interact with the Japanese on a business level, which one
could
say might
be analagous to working with Japanese students on an academic
level.

So is this useful or not? I honestly care not that much for anime
and am not
going to the country for that purpose. And the way I see it, had
it been any
other product my company was dealing with, this would actually
look better.
Oh well.

Any thoughts on this would be mightily appreciated. Since
tomorrow
is Turkey
Day, I"ve got an extra day to edit my application before I send
it
out so
hopefully you guys can give me some feedback on this.

Much thanks in advance!




Message: 4
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:31:34 -0800
From: Christopher Ling
Subject: Re: Re: Japanese animation related employment. Beneficial
or not?

My problem with talking about my job is that from dealing with
customers at
anime conventions, I feel that it seems so easy to lump anyone and
everyone
as part of this otaku /geek crowd. One can argue how anime and
manga can be
on a higher level of intellectual importance and all than American
cartoons
but I honestly couldn"t believe that the JET recruiters would care.

But yeah, it seems that I am trying to put a real systematic spin
on how to
get into JET. Oh well. It was sent out the day before without the
addition
so here"s hoping my other skills are enough for the job. ;)

-Chris

Tom,

I"m glad that being an otaku didn"t count against you... I think
that
is something that Western society has struggled with for a long
time
(accepting Anime and Manga); Here on the States-side, comic books
are
affiliated with childhood and the pre-teen years. Animation is also
treated as kidstuff . I suppose the advisor who suggested to
suppress
an interest in Anime was merely acting out of that vein of thought.
Perhaps to someone here, an interest in Anime and Manga may seem
childish or immature. I think that in our excitement, an interest
in
getting it right sometimes overrides the simple approach to be
ourselves. After reading many writings, most from former JET
participants, it is very tempting to believe that there is a
cookie-cutter approach to getting accepted.

My 2 yen,
Rich



On Friday, November 28, 2003, at 11:20 PM, sjsamurai007 wrote:

Hi Chris,

One of my main interests in Japan was Japanese anime and manga.
I
said that during my interview, and they selected me (though I
have
no way of knowing if the comment that I like manga helped,
hurt, or
had no effect...) I collected over 1500 manga during my 2 years
there, and shipped them all home at the end. All my students
knew I
enjoyed it, and it was often something they enjoyed discussing.
Plus, some manga and anime is very helpful in learning about
Japanese culture, language, and lifestyle. So accentuate the
positive value of it, not the tentacle porn otaku side... ;)

Tom

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
Christopher Ling [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=CzOONxAfuCOB-stN0r5yOJbcS-DJ5kYKpZs50lR4WCTLy379-usHiJkAoGfPrFrqOj4ZGfhnt7Dedhj6_s8O"]Shinikenshi@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?shinikenshi) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 8:18
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] interesting new bit</font>
<tt>Interesting news, but I look at stuff like that as similar to reports in the
US that video games are the definitive source of the new surge in violent
crimes committed by juveniles and disgruntled adults.

Perhaps there is some truth that some people are driven to extremes because
of the influences of these mediums, but I think that these are mostly
isolated cases of sheer extremes. Yet, the media just LOVES to blow these
things out of proportion which probably adds to the general public suspicion
and negativity towards anime, video games, pop culture, hard rock, etc. etc.

Now if these cases were wide sweeping phenomena then perhaps one should
really be concerned...

-Chris

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Brento [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=q7wen-ETYhbWBtbUScCUFPkv_t7QPvxqGlXkvb_u9FHh_PP3HO_40A0pMNpYlqka6havfg"]bsilk@s... (ymsgr:sendIM?brento1138) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 3:38
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Japanese animation related employment. Beneficial or not?</font>
<tt>I agree. I do not think that JET is looking for this specific type
of person. When they ask me why I like Japan, of course I"m going to
say how I love various Japanese movies, including animes... I am not
ashamed to be a Japanese-movie freak.

So just be yourself. What I think the interviewers are looking for
is how well we are in front of people. They are most likely looking
more for communication skills than anything else. So show confidence
when you are up there, and sweat it out. Like any other job.

I am sure they don"t rate us on medical disability, entertainment
preference, race, or other criteria. However, I am positive they
reflect on our communication skills... which means they may like an
extrovert over an introvert. Obviously!

Brento

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=BlX-ttztGB9fN0_s5o0Nc4vuTWGkmW0e13wjpZ6bKlxNn9G9alVafrSyAs8Dh5szdd45B11DH6mI6Q36o3Y), RG Pascual rgpascual@c... wrote:
Tom,

I"m glad that being an otaku didn"t count against you... I think
that
is something that Western society has struggled with for a long
time
(accepting Anime and Manga); Here on the States-side, comic books
are
affiliated with childhood and the pre-teen years. Animation is
also
treated as kidstuff . I suppose the advisor who suggested to
suppress
an interest in Anime was merely acting out of that vein of
thought.
Perhaps to someone here, an interest in Anime and Manga may seem
childish or immature. I think that in our excitement, an interest
in
getting it right sometimes overrides the simple approach to be
ourselves. After reading many writings, most from former JET
participants, it is very tempting to believe that there is a
cookie-cutter approach to getting accepted.

My 2 yen,
Rich



On Friday, November 28, 2003, at 11:20 PM, sjsamurai007 wrote:

Hi Chris,

One of my main interests in Japan was Japanese anime and manga. I
said that during my interview, and they selected me (though I have
no way of knowing if the comment that I like manga helped, hurt,
or
had no effect...) I collected over 1500 manga during my 2 years
there, and shipped them all home at the end. All my students
knew I
enjoyed it, and it was often something they enjoyed discussing.
Plus, some manga and anime is very helpful in learning about
Japanese culture, language, and lifestyle. So accentuate the
positive value of it, not the tentacle porn otaku side... ;)

Tom


--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=BlX-ttztGB9fN0_s5o0Nc4vuTWGkmW0e13wjpZ6bKlxNn9G9alVafrSyAs8Dh5szdd45B11DH6mI6Q36o3Y), Christopher Ling
Shinikenshi@h... wrote:
Hmm...while we are on the subject, here"s a moderately
interesting
question...

While I was attending university (still am, but anyways) I"ve had
two
significant jobs. One is my system administration job at one of
the
engineering departments on campus and the other is as vice
president of a
company that sells...anime-related stuff.

Now, before we go too far, I realize that mentioning ANYTHING
that
has to do
with anime is probably gonna get you sunk faster than emphasizing
one"s
great and devout appreciation for say...JPOP or Tokyo-like
things,
but I"m
wondering if I can still use this position to some benefit on my
education.

Here"s my spin. Our company imports Japanese comics (specifically
fan made
comics called doujinshi ) for American consumption at
conventions. Because
of this, time must be actually spent negotiating prices and that
sort of
thing. Hence, I could say that the job is pertinent because it
shows me how
to interact with the Japanese on a business level, which one
could
say might
be analagous to working with Japanese students on an academic
level.

So is this useful or not? I honestly care not that much for anime
and am not
going to the country for that purpose. And the way I see it, had
it been any
other product my company was dealing with, this would actually
look better.
Oh well.

Any thoughts on this would be mightily appreciated. Since
tomorrow
is Turkey
Day, I"ve got an extra day to edit my application before I send
it
out so
hopefully you guys can give me some feedback on this.

Much thanks in advance!

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2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
[url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=LiOc6Sa7crhUYO1DLCY7lXMYQyaU-i-haJX34z5MTkBqxTXTH9SEBmeszRb69R5xjYV9qHVglMUcFg"]penstand@e... (ymsgr:sendIM?nlpenstand) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Thu Dec 4, 2003 9:51
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: quotaa?</font>
<tt>

Since interviews are coming up, does anyone know if there is a quota from each
consulate that"s doing the interviewing? As in, does each consulate only get a
certain number of people they can accept?

thanks
nancy

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May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
Christopher Ling [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=wsuHZ51eHYTS_XoHMbAJ9sseTfJJeimSZlXxXnarhV8BrsCz6Ct5kf_RrjUog6fPvdOU_0gURWq2RuVLmV30_Y66"]Shinikenshi@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?shinikenshi) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Fri Dec 5, 2003 3:15
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: RE: [2004JET] quotaa?</font>
<tt>I am under the assumption that there is some sort of quota system set up
though I am not entirely sure since I don"t think the main JET Programme
website discloses information such as that. Would scare too many people I
suppose. :)

-Chris

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From:
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</a>
Matt dynamisx@b... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=_a70Z_9n5enKPbWZJSQgGr6pjMuyD0RtbhVzo4J9OgT51YAlKTC0oKIAcr9rK1aeeshUdAKydrOBOxsH) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Fri Dec 5, 2003 1:07
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: quotaa?</font>
<tt>The number of JETs accepted is directly dependent on the number of
current JETs who choose not to re-contract. That"s why we have to
wait so long for the results of our interviews.

I"m pretty sure CLAIR specify some kind of ratio for applicants from
each country, but the simple truth is that if all the current JETs
recontract, hardly anyone new will get in, and vice versa.

Matt

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=KI8MVa_tyIhpz2Waa8J8GLSNEkYXcCKBaOCvLr4oxpvN76lHxUjIyivdaQp9dTiMAeeJsuo-OTlm6tj0Q5I), Christopher Ling Shinikenshi@h...
wrote:
I am under the assumption that there is some sort of quota system
set up
though I am not entirely sure since I don"t think the main JET
Programme
website discloses information such as that. Would scare too many
people I
suppose. :)

-Chris

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From:
[/url]
penstand@e... (ymsgr:sendIM?nlpenstand) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Fri Dec 5, 2003 6:52
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: [2004JET] Re: quotaa?</font>
<tt>

Right, they do decide how many people from each country they will take, which is
dependent on what the people want on the Japan end (I think). And yes it
depends on how many slots are available to begin with. But out of those
available slots in the US, do they also say each consulate can only hire a
certain number of people as well? Or is it a percentage?

Cuz wouldn"t you have the case where certain consulates in very populous (sp?)
areas will get a higher number of applicants and therefore will have a smaller
acceptance rate than say another place which doesn"t have as many applicats?

thanks
nancy



--- On Fri 12/05, Matt dynamisx@b... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=SHpkyG4SYyK-Gh-M0_I3aS7WMtqf-abIAw21dOcuybACvsBRRmmt6wC5nsWJb8nceoEpFIXbF7y_8_cMyg) wrote:
From: Matt [mailto: dynamisx@b... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=SHpkyG4SYyK-Gh-M0_I3aS7WMtqf-abIAw21dOcuybACvsBRRmmt6wC5nsWJb8nceoEpFIXbF7y_8_cMyg)]
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Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 13:07:48 -0000
Subject: [2004JET] Re: quotaa?

The number of JETs accepted is directly dependent on the number of br current
JETs who choose not to re-contract. That"s why we have to br wait so long for
the results of our interviews. br br I"m pretty sure CLAIR specify some kind of
ratio for applicants from br each country, but the simple truth is that if all
the current JETs br recontract, hardly anyone new will get in, and vice
versa. br br Matt br br --- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=0M51VC-wYYLNOyDFjIeZBuJSe3-e5u0Hpvg45ZA5softUsbNbdUS4gbm_grbPItoed4hGiBzcjeRqct9c3mAWDg), Christopher Ling
Shinikenshi@h... br wrote: br I am under the assumption that there is some
sort of quota system br set up br though I am not entirely sure since I
don"t think the main JET br Programme br website discloses information such
as that. Would scare too many br people I br suppose. :) br br
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From:
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Christopher Ling [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=svPP7nPZGxfiKGLIp5B74jfCOarBDmugLOHTAYox2teei6TTdkYnB1R_LIdMT3iL6KwJ7vvO6PCxCIRWfuprTAxy"]Shinikenshi@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?shinikenshi) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Fri Dec 5, 2003 6:56
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: RE: [2004JET] Re: quotaa?</font>
<tt>Which is probably why some people speculate that in the US, the California,
Arizona, and Hawaii consulates are the hardest to get into (in terms of
sheer percentages) due to the volume of applicants that come out of these
places.

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From:
[/url]
penstand@e... (ymsgr:sendIM?nlpenstand) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Fri Dec 5, 2003 11:26
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: RE: [2004JET] Re: quotaa?</font>
<tt>

darn. as in, noone"s saying, but it"s likely true that there"s a quota...?



--- On Fri 12/05, Christopher Ling Shinikenshi@h... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=YG0MC1Y5QpTwubu6aWeamsrQ7nwR6ndtocjDn2PDgQv7jY8tfHX8VdZQJ8DbMUoUlzWF7e5gSW3UkpnK0sIAyw) wrote:
From: Christopher Ling [mailto: Shinikenshi@h... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=YG0MC1Y5QpTwubu6aWeamsrQ7nwR6ndtocjDn2PDgQv7jY8tfHX8VdZQJ8DbMUoUlzWF7e5gSW3UkpnK0sIAyw)]
To: 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=-qsktNGB6634P8mUfXQn8_rMW-YNkt_Y-myJZcE1pqmNvjQu4h22rxw6NK8dzHBMUX7oX0LEA6vZDvaaxng_Ug)
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 10:56:34 -0800
Subject: RE: [2004JET] Re: quotaa?

Which is probably why some people speculate that in the US, the California,
br Arizona, and Hawaii consulates are the hardest to get into (in terms of
br sheer percentages) due to the volume of applicants that come out of these
br places. br br -Chris br br _______________________________________________
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From:
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thatsasin [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=lX183VIb7OeC0NB-P_kqAjWDfm6tkkOly-SRjh_dS1IrJN9L1V1ZRzJ-t_mbxdg4R-gCOEoQpljZ"]thatsasin@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?thatsasin) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Fri Dec 5, 2003 11:31
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: quotaa?</font>
<tt>I"m not sure about this at all, but I thought I heard somewhere that
JET had quotas based on the states or regions in which the applicants
live, not the amount of applicants that interview at each consulate.

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=8fggfsYJonTlv9d_2BDg72w5Zzf9_CiMUxlnqjXCUlvRDejDfRgHBdaUtVnDpe1Da2NyUjVfXP8WwaNN644), penstand@e... wrote:


darn. as in, noone"s saying, but it"s likely true that there"s a
quota...?



--- On Fri 12/05, Christopher Ling Shinikenshi@h... wrote:
From: Christopher Ling [mailto: Shinikenshi@h...]
To: 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=8fggfsYJonTlv9d_2BDg72w5Zzf9_CiMUxlnqjXCUlvRDejDfRgHBdaUtVnDpe1Da2NyUjVfXP8WwaNN644)
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 10:56:34 -0800
Subject: RE: [2004JET] Re: quotaa?

Which is probably why some people speculate that in the US, the
California, br Arizona, and Hawaii consulates are the hardest to get
into (in terms of br sheer percentages) due to the volume of
applicants that come out of these
br places. br br -Chris br br __________________________________________=
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From:
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</a>
Matt dynamisx@b... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=cRB0xi8RBcfECCd1Hk_PJ6VCW_wvBQEir1TVFcCuJQ_6-ueuw82cdUQQ0ePD2MdMB99RAwV7UOcgRo8) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Dec 6, 2003 12:15
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Nihon go</font>
<tt>Hi,

I guess most people here have some interest in Japan, and possibly
even an interest in Japanese. I"m curious what my fellow JET hopefuls
are doing about familiarising themselves with the local lingo.

Myself, I"ve enrolled on an evening class, and can now happily
introduce myself and present you with my business card. It"s going
pretty slow (what kind of person names the days of the month??!)
but Watashi wa ganbatte desu (or something).

So anyone wanting to share ideas, encouragement, The Best Book, or
just plain ridicule my nonsensical rambling... dozo.

Mattsu

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:47
From:
[/url]
thatsasin [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=MiipJ09Yt88r20i84lax2IBVwmL8CMu3Ew1KXGpWuxgRVNexe5nMMMV0d_sP0LVHjLqiwwf-Nuk8Pgf7Ew"]thatsasin@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?thatsasin) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Dec 6, 2003 4:28
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: confirmation cards?</font>
<tt>Just curious whether anyone"s received their confirmation card stating
that the JET people have received your application, or if anyone knows
how long it"s supposed to take to send them out. I sent my JET app
via overnight mail on Tuesday and am wondering when I should start to
worry.

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
Christopher Ling [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=bKBOrlIWYu1S4X1JoUXGQkH43u7MqhSiDh2IlZElMXY0IOdt8WafsSgglyKHDP_rWxjHLk-iSykm7tSQiw"]Shinikenshi@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?shinikenshi) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Dec 6, 2003 6:23
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: RE: [2004JET] confirmation cards?</font>
<tt>Start worrying if you check the confirmation number on where/when it was
shipped and you find out its out somewhere in Kansas instead of the
Washington D.C. Japan Consulate. :P

Since the confirmation cards are sent out via regular 1st class post, expect
3-5 days for it to arrive (pending where you are in the country) and
additional days depending on when the JET Programme fellas decide to
actually mail out the cards.

-Chris

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From:
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Justin! [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=jsTwEDzIZkBQFEeG_19qWjASNvmp0WS2BAEePwrjmbLkShQUTS1m1pv6AjHYgt4gs1DFfwbGQ2y33zQIf2qzcA"]justin@e... (ymsgr:sendIM?atomic98yak) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Dec 6, 2003 6:49
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: quotaa?</font>
<tt>The best way to offset the possibility of the presences of a quota
system is to be the best.

I know that seems like absolutely worthless advice, but to
paraphrase the Dalai Lama, if you have control over a situation, you
don"t have to worry about - and if you don"t have control over it,
then there"s nothing you can do about it, so why worry about it?

I think if you go in there with a genuine and positive attitude, you
won"t need to worry about how many get in from your particular
area. Perhaps this view puts too much confidence in a)the applicant
and/or b) the interviews/evaluators, but if you can go in there with
the attitude that you belong there, and you aren"t scratching and
clawing for one of the last spots (without being arrogant) then I
think that"s the best outook you can have going into it.

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
Justin! [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=p6CGAzInD8vxb9fvCorVG91S5U4aZV41eowKT1B9MVaHYI9ddE6_3iqFQPdGwbMlj3Ir_kDaXE879RxABok-SO4HBQ"]justin@e... (ymsgr:sendIM?atomic98yak) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Dec 6, 2003 6:57
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Nihon go</font>
<tt>I would reccomend the Kodansha Kanji Learner"s Dictionary. I think
it"s great for studying and looking up different kanji. I"ve found
it to be very helpful.

When you get to Japan, you"re Japanese ability will seem next to
nothing. At least that was my experience. I took conversational
Japanese for a semester before my work/study, and when I went I
found I could barely construct a decipherable sentence. After being
there for 9 months, my Japanese improved a thousandfold. It"s still
not the greatest, but I"m much more confident with it. So keep
working on it, and keep use the Japanese friends you meet both here
and abroad as resources. They can help you fit in with local
dialects, and a less textbooky sound.

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=JNN9V1jFqUYWy2j6eiS59pbmo5iSyQYvia5ZSrktqPzYuCgzHZMhKbDV_qqw_i4-RgEsczB5vOoSPCfoxJ0x), Matt dynamisx@b... wrote:
Hi,

I guess most people here have some interest in Japan, and possibly
even an interest in Japanese. I"m curious what my fellow JET
hopefuls
are doing about familiarising themselves with the local lingo.

Myself, I"ve enrolled on an evening class, and can now happily
introduce myself and present you with my business card. It"s going
pretty slow (what kind of person names the days of the month??!)
but Watashi wa ganbatte desu (or something).

So anyone wanting to share ideas, encouragement, The Best Book, or
just plain ridicule my nonsensical rambling... dozo.

Mattsu

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
Justin! [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=6k11XGAH2taiEXtVAWEXlRNvN0h3yjpAdaDqd4wjuosBPyjQutENOrwjJJyeUzA9r8y91d-Q2mLNx7qR9pQ"]justin@e... (ymsgr:sendIM?atomic98yak) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Dec 6, 2003 7:01
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: confirmation cards?</font>
<tt>I sent mine priorit mail and got the confirmation card 8 days later
(with a sunday and thanksgiving in between). Being a little closer
to the deadline, they might have a larger influx now, causing the
process to be a little slower, but I"m not sure. Anyway, good luck!

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=cSi1J-ftLAmWzcUDbCsoK01Akw-7hAdvJ9rz2lVpqOkjAsY_BZ1_bORlaA-PLtzvv89rVQvlCEZALB3MAV4j), thatsasin thatsasin@y... wrote:
Just curious whether anyone"s received their confirmation card
stating
that the JET people have received your application, or if anyone
knows
how long it"s supposed to take to send them out. I sent my JET app
via overnight mail on Tuesday and am wondering when I should start
to
worry.

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
Christopher Ling [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=87qsFaNz9QIAYf7f874JDuU2gxXOg7RpASOmAXJaygzXsrS3CCmg1vtBP77V64oKSvh0OVKGp0hLtBbnoSsRGK1A"]Shinikenshi@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?shinikenshi) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Dec 6, 2003 7:02
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: RE: [2004JET] Re: quotaa?</font>
<tt>Excellent point made! One should be cool and confident (and certainly not
desperate!) at the interview stage.

However for me, I"m just worried about getting that far! Once I"m there, the
confidence will flow.

Or so I hope! ^^

-Chris

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2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
Christopher Ling [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=dsx0cYuriB9VGrwW1pB1Aq-olvrzEgTPjBFTR5btjQnjCucfvV2HUTbCrdp_1E2lsz3sGMjSUTQajZ4u0oiq"]Shinikenshi@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?shinikenshi) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Dec 6, 2003 7:05
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: RE: [2004JET] Re: Nihon go</font>
<tt>Haha...I remember my first few weeks in Sendai when I studied at Tohoku
University in my first year of university. Despite two semesters of Japanese
study prior to my departure, I had an extremely hard time getting myself to
even speak in Japanese! After 5 months of study I can say that my knowledge
has increased severalfold, but since I didn"t motivate myself to speak
Japanese (it was an engineering program in english!), I guess that didn"t
help. ^^;

But if I"m not mistaken, aren"t there supposed to be language courses
available through CLAIR that gives you the option of learning Japanese while
doing JET?

-Chris

I would reccomend the Kodansha Kanji Learner"s Dictionary. I think
it"s great for studying and looking up different kanji. I"ve found
it to be very helpful.

When you get to Japan, you"re Japanese ability will seem next to
nothing. At least that was my experience. I took conversational
Japanese for a semester before my work/study, and when I went I
found I could barely construct a decipherable sentence. After being
there for 9 months, my Japanese improved a thousandfold. It"s still
not the greatest, but I"m much more confident with it. So keep
working on it, and keep use the Japanese friends you meet both here
and abroad as resources. They can help you fit in with local
dialects, and a less textbooky sound.

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=U8bl2yAOAxK6V8dE8Gl4KeWaFWgwpbF0f-MQhzBio0FsfNXQBIkboemtbYH0lm5ciLys0cofbCocHR7zaK2BJkYv), Matt dynamisx@b... wrote:
Hi,

I guess most people here have some interest in Japan, and possibly
even an interest in Japanese. I"m curious what my fellow JET
hopefuls
are doing about familiarising themselves with the local lingo.

Myself, I"ve enrolled on an evening class, and can now happily
introduce myself and present you with my business card. It"s going
pretty slow (what kind of person names the days of the month??!)
but Watashi wa ganbatte desu (or something).

So anyone wanting to share ideas, encouragement, The Best Book, or
just plain ridicule my nonsensical rambling... dozo.

Mattsu



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May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
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Justin! [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=BlgXaMQd0EzYVq6y12d4RHocAZ5j6ymqdIFCENeALajI38Nxxdy7SkhLqRRPhK87DflJRLKNTiYrX5UbE3iViIzbBQ"]justin@e... (ymsgr:sendIM?atomic98yak) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Dec 6, 2003 7:08
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: AJET</font>
<tt>I realize this is looking way ahead, seeing as how I haven"t even
been selected for an interview yet, let alone picked for the job,
but I was wondering what the current and past JETs thought about
joining AJET. I read in Importing Diversity... that AJET"s
numbers have dwindled from 80% in the beginning to 30% membership in
the late 90s, with the explanation that all of the kinks have been
worked out of the system . I like being active and aware, and want
to be a part of a system that keeps the JET program moving in a
positive direction (assuming I have the chance to become a JET), but
I don"t want to shell out a large membership fee if it"s turned
largely into a stagnant group that does nothing but send out
newsletters constructing mountains out of molehills. My question is
whether or not it is still a worthwhile organization, and do you
advice membership? Thank you!

-Justin

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
yoshiko nawa [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=WVhEyoLS9WlzHh060dhWE2UZQXVfDG2Hyw7nPHWw17ROcUzkDTXeYRVwxvcWI0ZWY9YQ1q8vLkw-4Xbl-Gisbw"]minhchanh_98@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?MinhChanh_98) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Dec 6, 2003 6:31
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] Re: confirmation cards?</font>
<tt>I sent mine in on the 26th and received my
confirmation card on the 5th.
Phil
--- Justin! justin@e... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=tgQHqQAXhow-pqBmhrgNuH-hoRJkQ_fW5kI6mFfgW3OGfOnpi5AMVYPh0IOk_xYrZudwkjKqcVvPmIEjB6WkH_c) wrote:
I sent mine priorit mail and got the confirmation
card 8 days later
(with a sunday and thanksgiving in between). Being
a little closer
to the deadline, they might have a larger influx
now, causing the
process to be a little slower, but I"m not sure.
Anyway, good luck!

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=VSvHxaPqaW1A0DCI-Xht8jhbKuc6bmppy2u_YVIv2MIttvGSlsDTLruWsPgLWcz_4HeL5gMu4mqs_AjZXN6lF7k), thatsasin
thatsasin@y... wrote:
Just curious whether anyone"s received their
confirmation card
stating
that the JET people have received your
application, or if anyone
knows
how long it"s supposed to take to send them out.
I sent my JET app
via overnight mail on Tuesday and am wondering
when I should start
to
worry.




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2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
bron_v [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=aC8NY-RdfuMLm_kCPeZ5PCckYAgDt1SqWk7phDqtIZ_R8I0pf9_tLDCsGrufEI1UddnvH3Xx_oU"]vealeb@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?bron_v) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 11:13
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Aussie applicants</font>
<tt>Hi all,
I"ve applied for JET 04, but won"t find out if I scored an interview
til mid Jan I think. Are there any other Perth applicants in this
group?

The waiting"s not easy since I have to figure out my plan B in the
mean time...But I"m trying to think of it as a good thing, to give me
time to do some research and prepare myself for the interview if I
get one!

A bit about myself: I"m 21, have no teaching or Japanese language
experience, have a degree in env biology and a grad dip in film and
TV. I"m hoping to produce educational docos in the future and I think
JET will help me to do that, well in an indirect way. Can anyone
suggest a few good texts for learning some basic Japanese on my own?

Another thing- I heard the process in each country varies a lot,
would love to get some feedback about any Aussies who have already
had an interview and how it went.

Cheers,
Bron.

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
bron_v [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=mINSpWX9NRIL4Qz54cmPd00ZY2HwwGEV-mEyWnCpr3pSXdAJ8rQ8QLHFjXRcqK5G-osBRJP7Qj0-svs"]vealeb@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?bron_v) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 12:05
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: interesting new bit</font>
<tt>I just have to say that I loved Neon Genesis and Princess Mononoke! I
recently did work experience for a local film company who were making
a doco about the effect of violence in video games ( Just a Game -
will be shown on channel 9 sometime soon for anyone in the land of
Oz) and that was a really interesting experience. What I got out of
it was that there are a few ppl who are adversely affected, but it"s
a small minority and generally the games themselves aren"t the only
factor.

This isn"t really related, but I saw a doco a while ago about
Japanese students playing up in class and hitting teachers...I was
wondering if ALTs have to deal with disciplining students as well or
if the JTEs handle that. Also if anyone has experienced this or knows
someone who has??

Bron:)

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=nDEzBJop54wdmpfUreW_eaZ8ArzCszJQWmEOxmuyVjEqApbWg0sgENTUBBFZbCr58mWwrUsKq_doFCCirg), ahtsai ahtsai@y... wrote:
http://www.zakzak.co.jp/top/t-2003_12/1t2003120130.html

Saw this while browsing though my jpn sites. Basically a news story
about the results of a hearing in Yamagata Prefecture. The hearing
was for a 22 year old guy who beat his mother (47) to death with a
wooden bat as a result of anime.

Apparently, back in high school, the accused was sympathetic(?)
with
lines like the ultimate result of evolution is destruction from
Neon Genesis Evangelion. As well as, the idea that mankind are a
violent creature that destories everything around them . Eventually
all of this led to his interest in murder. The day that he
commmited
the crime, he was suffeing from problems at work, pushing him over
the edge and the murder rampage starting with his family.

The distric attorny (judge?) said that even though they had the
accused go through psychology tests due to comments like the
population of mankind needs to be decreased or else... , but he is
still responsible for the criminal acts that he commited (had to
fudge the last part of the trans cuz i"m not familiar with all the
legal terms).

If i remember correctly, there were also a couple of case in the
last
decade that contributed to a fairly negative image of anime/manga
in
japan. There was one of a boy that cut off his school mate"s head
and
stuck it on a fence about 6 or 7 years ago. As well as the arrest
of
a well known director (the guy that worked on Starblazer i thihnk),
for illegal arms charges...he had howizer shells as well as enough
munition for a small army in his car and home. All of this were in
the last decade.

Andy

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
Brento [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=yttGeyjYLERd3HPQ3Q8iumBRLyMJ7J8HFWznoWONjrBPFK-AWQxX06fzNyDSk_sWL0kOOg"]bsilk@s... (ymsgr:sendIM?brento1138) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 11:11
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Nihon go</font>
<tt>I"ve been reading Read Japanese Today! to get a simple grasp of
reading the language. That might come in handy when your at a bullet
train station, or looking for a shop of some sort. It is by Len
Walsh, and a very fun read! I"ve got a copy of it on my computer and
you might be able to find the electronic version on Kazza or
something like that.

Brent




--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=VVMS9h1n2kMPNwHgeQMTS9WfhJQmIy_qHvPqfF-yuP84FgU3bJVYSvD2k9Y2Ml484yIYRSPti9puN2G9ujJK9EM), Matt dynamisx@b... wrote:
Hi,

I guess most people here have some interest in Japan, and possibly
even an interest in Japanese. I"m curious what my fellow JET
hopefuls
are doing about familiarising themselves with the local lingo.

Myself, I"ve enrolled on an evening class, and can now happily
introduce myself and present you with my business card. It"s going
pretty slow (what kind of person names the days of the month??!)
but Watashi wa ganbatte desu (or something).

So anyone wanting to share ideas, encouragement, The Best Book, or
just plain ridicule my nonsensical rambling... dozo.

Mattsu

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
Justin! [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=ZluiiIgpio0KcywrU-3cpHipeuIZrziHivALYb_J7jtENjwTT_m_wHuZXW1F3hzgKd5PbbkoDkh2mVtQ55BQ"]justin@e... (ymsgr:sendIM?atomic98yak) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 3:40
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Database - Charting our Progress</font>
<tt>I encourage everyone to take a look at the database section of the
group and fill out the table, so we can easily see where everyone is
in the selection process. I think this will add to the ability to
keep each other updated. I realize that some people may want to
keep their status private in case they don"t make it, but I think
this will be helpful and fun. Anyway, I"m doing it. :) Fill it out
if you want to !

-Justin

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
feenixsf [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=tfDBli57sKwogOvYYOUKTvujoaYJjVFBrp7bNIdkxU8-qrx5FmWu6gutF9wvnYhsAMc7GG5bH-FdxkV5MA"]rich@s... (ymsgr:sendIM?feenixsf) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 6:15
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: New DB - Interview Q"s</font>
<tt>Hey JET applicants -

I just set up a new database in the members section of our Yahoo group. I
thought it
might be useful to put in a brain dump of all the questions we can recall or
make up
for interview situations. The way I see it, if you can put in 10-15 minutes each
day (or
even once a week) to try thinking about these questions, we can better present
ourselves under the stressful conditions of the real thing.

Throw in some easy ones that you can think of, but don"t hesitate to throw a
couple
of curve-balls to mix it up. I think building a questions db will be a useful
springboard for discussions. If you also stumble across posts which talk about
past
interviews, add those questions to help build our DB.

Hanging in there,
Rich

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
otteer@l... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=CxRrVLRHEfF5JT2MH31aI5pmIrfy1O7z2Ful_suDfuJKKYDkOIKIZBLb4pmNKb7Grc4QDqc) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 3:17
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] Aussie applicants</font>
<tt> JET will help me to do that, well in an indirect way. Can anyone
suggest a few good texts for learning some basic Japanese on my own?

I"ve tried a few and I recommend Japanese For Busy People cuz it gets you
started reading kana right away, and Berlitz Basic Japanese was great for
general speaking/learning. I found the context of their cheesy skits really
helped me remember stuff.

Also I recommend doing what I did, going to the library, grabbing some, and
seeing what you like best...

Good luck!

Eric



On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 11:13:48AM -0000, bron_v wrote:
Hi all,
I"ve applied for JET 04, but won"t find out if I scored an interview
til mid Jan I think. Are there any other Perth applicants in this
group?

The waiting"s not easy since I have to figure out my plan B in the
mean time...But I"m trying to think of it as a good thing, to give me
time to do some research and prepare myself for the interview if I
get one!

A bit about myself: I"m 21, have no teaching or Japanese language
experience, have a degree in env biology and a grad dip in film and
TV. I"m hoping to produce educational docos in the future and I think
JET will help me to do that, well in an indirect way. Can anyone
suggest a few good texts for learning some basic Japanese on my own?

Another thing- I heard the process in each country varies a lot,
would love to get some feedback about any Aussies who have already
had an interview and how it went.

Cheers,
Bron.




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2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
Peter Honigmann Jr [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=J7Bz3OMQp6PLQ4jAh6a5wUN-124At_JTtPzjiVDBQhEaTViX-xHuIIS5wb7udJGAVgPdLrFTJTKk0dDXOc4KkJIS7Wc"]foleyhonigmann@s... (ymsgr:sendIM?peter_honigmann) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 3:20
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] Digest Number <font size="-0">
>A number of people have asked about what books or texts to study to learn some Japanese before going over, to which I have a couple suggestions

First, I highly recommend at least learning the basics - which to me includes becoming familiar with hiragana and katakana. I would actually recommend Katakana first, because it is often used on menus. Forget learning the chinese characters right now - except for maybe boy and girl - so you know which bathroom to use.

You will also be doing yourself a great service if you learn some basic expressions and questions. Learning how to greet people, thank them, and ask basic directions would be the most useful.

As for texts - I have found that "Japanese for Busy People" is very user friendly and offers a lot of what I have suggested above. There are also a lot of computer programs which will allow you to record your voice to check your pronunciation and which can be more interesting and useful than just reading a textbook. A travel phrase book can also be helpful as it provides a lot phrases for a wide variety of situations.

However, I truly believe that any book or program which keeps you interested and gets you learning the basics is a good choice. While you will find that quite a few Japanese will have a basic grasp of English, since they have been studying it at school since junior high, the more Japanese you understand the easier it will be to get to work, go shopping, or get medical attention.

A good place to start is a web site from Japan which is designed for kids - but is actually a lot of fun and full of useful information. It is located at http://www.jinjapan.org/kidsweb/ and I use a lot of the information in the intro Japanese courses I teach. Hope it helps

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
thatsasin [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=oCTw6WRNnUvRCRSuEyuaSD8OkwYfYHjnm0-MK_XdMwS-_GKCMgntZOPi_toLb4Qy1nflxCcicnyE"]thatsasin@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?thatsasin) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 10:20
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: vegetarianism interview question</font>
<tt>This question in the database intrigued me:

If you are a vegetarian, how would you handle a situation where you
are the guest of a government official or program representative who
serves you a meal which consists mainly of meat dishes?

I mentioned that I"m a vegetarian on my application, so I"m certain a
question like this will come up. During my internship in Sendai, I
was put in a similar situation when I attended a formal going-away
party for some government employees as a special guest. 90% of the
food was meat dishes in a serve-yourself situation at a table. I just
took a small piece of chicken, nibbled it, then gave the rest to an
American co-worker who sat next to me. Then I went home hungry and
ate some pasta.

But somehow I don"t think this would be an acceptable answer during
the JET interview. Plus, if placed in the same situation again, I
don"t know if I"d eat meat at all. What do you think the correct
reaction to a situation like this would be? I"m interested from the
standpoint of an interviewee and someone who"s genuinely concerned
about offending people at formal functions.

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
feenixsf [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=n5fzgAEm1slRBK_-r_3X7a835lwL-eZYbJm5NbTtJr8WkMg4OvYCvek_tDK-HAipfFai5UkUViVhyXYP8Q8"]rich@s... (ymsgr:sendIM?feenixsf) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Tue Dec 9, 2003 12:19
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: vegetarianism interview question</font>
<tt>Initially, I"d think the hosts wouldn"t be surprised, since many
Buddhists observe vegetarianism. I suppose it might be difficult to
explain one"s dietary restriction if it were simply by choice and not
by a religious obligation. The latter may provide a graceful
explanation. I think the difficult part is where the host has expended
considerable effort preparing for the invitation - one may not be able
to avoid awkwardness in the situation.

Rich

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This question in the database intrigued me:

If you are a vegetarian, how would you handle a situation where you
are the guest of a government official or program representative who
serves you a meal which consists mainly of meat dishes?

I mentioned that I"m a vegetarian on my application, so I"m certain
a
question like this will come up. During my internship in Sendai, I
was put in a similar situation when I attended a formal going-away
party for some government employees as a special guest. 90% of the
food was meat dishes in a serve-yourself situation at a table. I
just
took a small piece of chicken, nibbled it, then gave the rest to an
American co-worker who sat next to me. Then I went home hungry and
ate some pasta.

But somehow I don"t think this would be an acceptable answer during
the JET interview. Plus, if placed in the same situation again, I
don"t know if I"d eat meat at all. What do you think the correct
reaction to a situation like this would be? I"m interested from the
standpoint of an interviewee and someone who"s genuinely concerned
about offending people at formal functions.

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
<a href="ymsgr:sendIM?dynamisx">http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/online.gif
</a>
Matt dynamisx@b... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=IY57zgrDUOAY_QuUOVGHB3o2pzqa0eA8Y61QwuQKj3XIF6LQcRtcPZw_oAkZ2nl0VHyRCxvf4xHlBGA) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Tue Dec 9, 2003 9:19
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: vegetarianism interview question</font>
<tt>I think the correct answer is usually just being honest yet
tactful. This kind of situation could as easily occur at home as
abroad. I guess something like thanking them for the effort they
made, and maybe complimenting the taste of some of the veg dishes
could take some of the sting out of your hosts" disappointment!

Matt

(Here"s thanking that I didn"t get any awkward questions in my
interview!)

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=fq2RxTGVNFOIpawjmFkeYOpNbdqoVubHk6FCgia_RI9FHX4FVUa9N0q2yT_F2ZCWSLRd-2_q5-NjK2N0cA), feenixsf rich@s... wrote:
Initially, I"d think the hosts wouldn"t be surprised, since many
Buddhists observe vegetarianism. I suppose it might be difficult to
explain one"s dietary restriction if it were simply by choice and
not
by a religious obligation. The latter may provide a graceful
explanation. I think the difficult part is where the host has
expended
considerable effort preparing for the invitation - one may not be
able
to avoid awkwardness in the situation.

Rich

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=fq2RxTGVNFOIpawjmFkeYOpNbdqoVubHk6FCgia_RI9FHX4FVUa9N0q2yT_F2ZCWSLRd-2_q5-NjK2N0cA), thatsasin thatsasin@y... wrote:
This question in the database intrigued me:

If you are a vegetarian, how would you handle a situation where
you
are the guest of a government official or program representative
who
serves you a meal which consists mainly of meat dishes?

I mentioned that I"m a vegetarian on my application, so I"m
certain
a
question like this will come up. During my internship in Sendai,
I
was put in a similar situation when I attended a formal going-away
party for some government employees as a special guest. 90% of
the
food was meat dishes in a serve-yourself situation at a table. I
just
took a small piece of chicken, nibbled it, then gave the rest to
an
American co-worker who sat next to me. Then I went home hungry
and
ate some pasta.

But somehow I don"t think this would be an acceptable answer
during
the JET interview. Plus, if placed in the same situation again, I
don"t know if I"d eat meat at all. What do you think
the correct
reaction to a situation like this would be? I"m interested from
the
standpoint of an interviewee and someone who"s genuinely concerned
about offending people at formal functions.

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
<a href="ymsgr:sendIM?dynamisx">http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/online.gif
</a>
Matt dynamisx@b... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=breGZqkgYmVJylLhER18vHtrh1v3JrzY5Sgos-sWb2-IGP6t6Xh2GKGQhyPDwNn1nCREkAJMOHo49Ng) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Tue Dec 9, 2003 9:33
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Aussie applicants</font>
<tt>Hi,

I"ve tried a few and I recommend Japanese For Busy People cuz it
gets you started reading kana right away, and Berlitz Basic
Japanese was great for general speaking/learning. I found the
context of their cheesy skits really helped me remember stuff.

I use Japanese for Busy People for my evening course. I think its
actually quite poor as a language book, although it gets the job
done, and its very popular. I"t doesn"t actually teach you Kana, but
just starts using it, and leaves it up to you to learn it, although
this depends on the edition you get.

My favourite quote from the book is: Memorise the numbers from 100
to 1,000,000,000,000.


Also I recommend doing what I did, going to the library, grabbing
some, and seeing what you like best...

Definitely a good idea. I found a really good book called Colloquial
Japanese It introduces Hiragana, Katakana, and Kanji at the same
time, but in a well thought out, memorable way.

I guess the most important thing I"ve found is to pick a book you
like, and stick with it.

Matt

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
bron_v [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=nGwk85vaIFyZYjmS2l5ReECAVo03sPxPTOXNErTUzXUctKsCtdne8HO4Cym_jdQdeZx-WxtGO0Vc7AL2qw"]vealeb@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?bron_v) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Tue Dec 9, 2003 1:25
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: thnx</font>
<tt>Just wanted to say I think this site is great and quite useful, since
I only joined yesterday! RE the suggested texts, the same names are
coming up which is a good sign, thanks for the info :)
Bron.

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
penstand@e... (ymsgr:sendIM?nlpenstand) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Tue Dec 9, 2003 5:57
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: [2004JET] Re: Aussie applicants</font>
<tt>

I had to take classes at 3 different language schools and we"ve tried, Japanese
for Busy people , Situational functional japanese , and Learn Japanese . I"d
have to agree that Japanese for Busy People is the best beginners book. It
doesn"t give you all the nuances of the language (good for beginners) and it
groups the grammer topics and vocabularies very nicely. My japanese teacher
said that the first volume is really good, but they didn"t like the 2nd one.

For higher levels, I like situational functional japanese , which I think is
like a lot of japanese textbooks out there. These books usually group lessons
by real life situations. But they introduce different grammer rules in each
chapter, and then add to the same rules in later chapters. I find it confusing.
But it"s more detailed in that it introduces more common speech, better
dialogues, and a lot of cultural explanations.

I"ve heard that japanese schools in japan use minna no nihongo? or something
like that......



--- On Tue 12/09, Matt dynamisx@b... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=Jx7wMqkKV_jEXusV1wg0nIoT81BUL8xx9j7f006y1R1a5bx8w9BnP3KPoV1GU484HFV6FJlftolQKJpzHYo) wrote:
From: Matt [mailto: dynamisx@b... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=Jx7wMqkKV_jEXusV1wg0nIoT81BUL8xx9j7f006y1R1a5bx8w9BnP3KPoV1GU484HFV6FJlftolQKJpzHYo)]
To: 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=D61Cg6la0ksqBOVkJYXGRabGOVrkw8E9Z24l74NFVmts3lOX_9ywW4Uhvh5p2ZFC76sMlyJruM5b_yKXxd4)
Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 09:33:44 -0000
Subject: [2004JET] Re: Aussie applicants

Hi, br br I"ve tried a few and I recommend Japanese For Busy People cuz it
br gets you started reading kana right away, and Berlitz Basic br Japanese
was great for general speaking/learning. I found the br context of their
cheesy skits really helped me remember stuff. br br I use Japanese for Busy
People for my evening course. I think its br actually quite poor as a language
book, although it gets the job br done, and its very popular. I"t doesn"t
actually teach you Kana, but br just starts using it, and leaves it up to you
to learn it, although br this depends on the edition you get. br br My
favourite quote from the book is: Memorise the numbers from 100 br to
1,000,000,000,000. br br br Also I recommend doing what I did, going to
the library, grabbing br some, and seeing what you like
best... br br Definitely a good idea. I found a really good book called
Colloquial br Japanese It introduces Hiragana, Katakana, and Kanji at the
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2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
hannah_e_y [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=Qo6EyFXMdpWh0dxQhfnSpAOQM9VDVipt1wcipvU2-At0IakxzTjXWy8lzQTSC1tHeugdaGhA3UEtjZX5I3E"]hannah_e_y@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?hannah_e_y) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Tue Dec 9, 2003 9:14
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: New person! Hi!</font>
<tt>Hi there, I"ve just applied to the JET scheme, and found this group
while trying to find out more about what I"m letting myself in for!

I"m interested to know the ages of most applicants.

I am 27, and have been a primary school teacher in the UK for 6
years. Is anyone else as old as me and are there any folk who are
leaving behind professional careers?

Am I mad?!

Hannah X

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
feenixsf [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=N_npqyfAB1yLZHEX9ke01hIY3-pAmrgT_9ZPfQxmks4Hn6Q_n48cCaoJycn3pMuL1C_4yrxvI5Vk8igyJVSDTGo"]rich@s... (ymsgr:sendIM?feenixsf) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Dec 10, 2003 1:59
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Cheers for the Old People</font>
<tt>Howdy Hannah and other JET-setters,

A man can feel mighty old surrounded by all these young ones who are
just graduating from college. Just so you know - energy and motivation
spans across any age difference!

I"m 30 and considering a shift from my current professional career. It
spooks me at times, but the prospects seem quite bright and exciting
all the same.

Be sure to post any good links or information that you find. We
currently have a database set up to track the admissions process and
also one to store questions to prepare for the inevitable big
interview . Contribute what you can!

Rich

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=UiezWXcIB722aQIZF2MI6f8KcaOqQNnJIC9yQpZCO1ragTnAEVmlMgoHuLQYKNmR1EZFnawz96f0BnPj6lJ8iUE), hannah_e_y hannah_e_y@y... wrote:
Hi there, I"ve just applied to the JET scheme, and found this group
while trying to find out more about what I"m letting myself in for!

I"m interested to know the ages of most applicants.

I am 27, and have been a primary school teacher in the UK for 6
years. Is anyone else as old as me and are there any folk who are
leaving behind professional careers?

Am I mad?!

Hannah X

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
Tad Morgan [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=xvCHCWQyvKlwvXQCjSAMCaEGPXSR50ZGuycfEb3S2DE7qqQ4h5P8szz2tyucV5o8yQAdEbqiTTd-pA"]tad-ml@s... (ymsgr:sendIM?cybernezumi) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Dec 10, 2003 2:37
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] New person! Hi!</font>
<tt>On Tuesday 09 December 2003 02:14 pm, hannah_e_y wrote:
I am 27, and have been a primary school teacher in the UK for 6
years. Is anyone else as old as me and are there any folk who are
leaving behind professional careers?

Am I mad?!

Well, probably no madder than I. 33 year old programmer, though currently
looking for new job (to tide me over til JET 8-) ). Actually applied last
year, but didn"t make it to the interview stage -- hopefully do better this
time around. This would be an interesting change, I think, that I would
enjoy.

Tad

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
Justin! [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=JCnFXh2f9aQG2I-OEbikjwKVOvLKI5Nl9xAuDOTK-qZn5SXtaDVvA4ZTDlh8l7r-GYcJK-YCj2xtAUnmR5PdVhg"]justin@e... (ymsgr:sendIM?atomic98yak) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Dec 10, 2003 6:37
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Database Fever</font>
<tt>In what can now officially be dubbed Official Database Kickoff
Week , I"ve added a category to help us get to know each other
beyond our names and other stats in order to enhance the community
aspect of the group. It"s really basic, and I titled it Part 1 in
case someone wanted to add a more in depth database later.

-Justin

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
shinikenshi [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=OCso5eH8mm6y2epx8Lsd10ZqYJQvb8RP7jRKmAitsGsYjAEsa0lt4fOWkI9qMF4b2WhGv_OywkVFvHWri2NBqtI"]Shinikenshi@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?shinikenshi) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Dec 10, 2003 9:48
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Cheers for the Old People</font>
<tt>Howdy to all the new people!

::bows out of respect for the older people:: ^^

I"m actually curious to know how many people here are the youngin"s
on the board. Its just kind of interesting noting the people that
joing the group who already have a profession whereas us kids are
thinking that perhaps JET is that expanse of time to think a bit
longer about what we want to do in life.

Or maybe thats just me. x_x

Totally unrelated note but I noticed a good bunch of people in the
database chose either Kagawa or Nara as choices. Would be interesting
if we all end at either places I suppose!

::ducks off to tackle another exam::

-Chris

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=p20s0Wq5NM8HWaV-_v04GVWimfESifx3H-dNzBddguR4TnewPrWaNZ-bO6Cg06kCzehfjKb0iI-2j05QLh0qUzo), feenixsf rich@s... wrote:
Howdy Hannah and other JET-setters,

A man can feel mighty old surrounded by all these young ones who
are
just graduating from college. Just so you know - energy and
motivation
spans across any age difference!

I"m 30 and considering a shift from my current professional career.
It
spooks me at times, but the prospects seem quite bright and
exciting
all the same.

Be sure to post any good links or information that you find. We
currently have a database set up to track the admissions process
and
also one to store questions to prepare for the inevitable big
interview . Contribute what you can!

Rich

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=p20s0Wq5NM8HWaV-_v04GVWimfESifx3H-dNzBddguR4TnewPrWaNZ-bO6Cg06kCzehfjKb0iI-2j05QLh0qUzo), hannah_e_y hannah_e_y@y...
wrote:
Hi there, I"ve just applied to the JET scheme, and found this
group
while trying to find out more about what I"m letting myself in
for!

I"m interested to know the ages of most applicants.

I am 27, and have been a primary school teacher in the UK for 6
years. Is anyone else as old as me and are there any folk who
are
leaving behind professional careers?

Am I mad?!

Hannah X

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
2004JET@yahoogroups.com </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Dec 10, 2003 10:13
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: New poll for 2004JET</font>
<tt>
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
2004JET group:

Have you studied the Japanese language?
If so rate your ability

o no
o basic
o intermediate
o advanced


To vote, please visit the following web page:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/2004JET/surveys?id=360758

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.

Thanks!

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
2004JET@yahoogroups.com </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Dec 10, 2003 10:15
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: New poll for 2004JET</font>
<tt>
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
2004JET group:

Have you had teaching experience?

o yes
o no


To vote, please visit the following web page:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/2004JET/surveys?id=360759

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
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Thanks!

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
2004JET@yahoogroups.com </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Dec 10, 2003 10:20
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: New poll for 2004JET</font>
<tt>
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
2004JET group:

Age Bracket?

o 18-22
o 23-27
o 28-32
o 33-37
o 38+


To vote, please visit the following web page:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/2004JET/surveys?id=360760

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
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Thanks!

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
<a href="ymsgr:sendIM?manshonyagger">http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/online.gif
</a>
Stephen Whaley manshonyagger@y... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=-dR8wug_GIQU5OCr_YMN1yiQAOxgB_IuvFn-JM1459T2Xe_TFTCX3wRwq5Ns4ylP0FXeV256R5VY3FbTKM-zUU1Kg-4) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Dec 10, 2003 1:25
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: New person! Hi!</font>
<tt>I"m a 30 year old library worker.

I know someone who went on JET last year, he"s 34 and worked for a
company that makes missiles before that.



manshonyagger//Stephen W


--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=IZT4WmJ8EDygTOEnEMFhs-FsDSAFsnlxntctiOwABiqZBwUn7VavVfHp1ahsYMuIvIrnxyrhVzULqPCZyQ), hannah_e_y hannah_e_y@y... wrote:
Hi there, I"ve just applied to the JET scheme, and found this group
while trying to find out more about what I"m letting myself in for!

I"m interested to know the ages of most applicants.

I am 27, and have been a primary school teacher in the UK for 6
years. Is anyone else as old as me and are there any folk who are
leaving behind professional careers?

Am I mad?!

Hannah X

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
Peter Honigmann Jr [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=ELetczgAkaJiIgV1ZyL4TcL-__LPVy3nGcHO0-wLTI9AQBfBS9nRo-1grI0D9aAvzFDaUPQjGKdeQTVIXI9Cn7ECpeEr"]foleyhonigmann@s... (ymsgr:sendIM?peter_honigmann) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Dec 10, 2003 5:07
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Other web resources</font>

</td></tr>
<tr valign="top" align="left"><td width="100%" valign="top" align="left">
<DIV>
<DIV>A couple other places I like to get information on Japanese and Japan are these web sites:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>http://japanese.about.com/</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>http://www.asahi.com/english/english.html</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>http://www.japantimes.co.jp/</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>http://www.thejapanesepage.com/grammar.htm - this site also references an excellent book which provides a lot of in depth information on Japanese grammar - A Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Peter</DIV></DIV>

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
llk3n3 [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=8-5hOKsntkFsgswS-ufD4ybihbGZeeOj79gEskWhJyiPQWX_L81BP4O4QOhiXJDIm17EiUK6FbbcX96pesc6VGsJ"]llk3n3@a... (ymsgr:sendIM?llk3n3) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Dec 10, 2003 5:11
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: ohayoo</font>
<tt>Hi!
I saw the link posted on the jetjapan community on livejournal, and
have just joined this group. My name"s Larissa and I"m a senior at
the University of Missouri-St. Louis. I"m applying to the JET
program with my companion, as they call it on the application, a
twenty-four year old male who"s decided it"s early enough in his
career he can take afford to quit and live in Japan for a while.
Good luck everyone!
llk

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
meanderw [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=RU9oND1WP0E07FFI4F7PjZ9dNuG9q0S0HntnAKoBBBLFBvgW1lf0Bxd6pOxjXkWTAPUOBl-qVy0BAHzubA"]amandawolf@m... (ymsgr:sendIM?meanderw) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Dec 10, 2003 7:54
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: vegetarianism interview question</font>
<tt>i think most japanese people aren"t familiar with vegetarianism,
especially people in rural areas. i was a JET for two years - i
never met a japanese vegetarian. i"m not a vegetarian, but i
chose not to eat school lunch. i worked at a jr high and EVERY
SINGLE PERSON at the school ate school lunch except for me -
all of the students, teachers, and staff. school lunch included
beef, pork, all kinds of seafood, dairy, even liver. virtually all
japanese kids eat a school lunch like this from nursery school
until they finish junior high.
some of the vegetarian JETs that i knew became somewhat
flexible in their diets because it can be incredibly frustrating to
try
to get a meal in japan that doesn"t have meat or fish in it. it
wasn"t
that people at restaurants were trying to serve them
non-vegetarian dishes - it"s just that the distinction between
meat and non-meat isn"t a big deal in japan. it"s basically all just
seen as edible food.
just my two cents...
-amanda

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=YdthGr6F7OWNN1hab13576sI3NfjDDTXs1lR85svokAcbaMvoAYswivM9exNc0cPBhWsVNueK5XUVRtXU2IKOvQ), feenixsf rich@s... wrote:
Initially, I"d think the hosts wouldn"t be surprised, since many
Buddhists observe vegetarianism. I suppose it might be
difficult to
explain one"s dietary restriction if it were simply by choice and
not
by a religious obligation. The latter may provide a graceful
explanation. I think the difficult part is where the host has
expended
considerable effort preparing for the invitation - one may not be
able
to avoid awkwardness in the situation.

Rich

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
hannah_e_y [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=dr1qs5abKy_RZETetq4K-ehEL3ovjxNkXpnmbv3lumWpRs1RoGyJrlpYQE_2e4MbFCvE5EIKx-PsHulQ"]hannah_e_y@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?hannah_e_y) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Thu Dec 11, 2003 9:37
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Cheers for the Old People</font>
<tt>Konichiwa JET setters,

Has everyone in the group requested a particular region of Japan? I
felt that I didn"t have a good enough reason for applying for a
particular preficture (other than the fact I"d heard of it, or My
pen friend lives there Which sounds a little pathetic!) so I ticked
the don"t mind box!! A bit scary, but I wonder if I will end up
with one of the less popular areas...? Be good to have a poll on
that one too! What is the general opinion? Is it too late to
request an area after applying?

Also, How about finding out who going from the UK and who from the
USA. Id the departure date the same?

And how about those who have applied in previous years, but were
unsucessful. Maybe they can help the rest of us by sharing their
experiences?

Hey, I"m on a roll tonight!

Hannah X





--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=cUYXAH5Xfmp0RfZKONvi-Tzhz-TvDcL_D_6ssNO3SoW4Yver1eLPZJjnJVFVui1c3IDl90Hrn9DiE0tYFVd_), shinikenshi Shinikenshi@h...
wrote:
Howdy to all the new people!

::bows out of respect for the older people:: ^^

I"m actually curious to know how many people here are the youngin"s
on the board. Its just kind of interesting noting the people that
joing the group who already have a profession whereas us kids are
thinking that perhaps JET is that expanse of time to think a bit
longer about what we want to do in life.

Or maybe thats just me. x_x

Totally unrelated note but I noticed a good bunch of people in the
database chose either Kagawa or Nara as choices. Would be
interesting
if we all end at either places I suppose!

::ducks off to tackle another exam::

-Chris

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=cUYXAH5Xfmp0RfZKONvi-Tzhz-TvDcL_D_6ssNO3SoW4Yver1eLPZJjnJVFVui1c3IDl90Hrn9DiE0tYFVd_), feenixsf rich@s... wrote:
Howdy Hannah and other JET-setters,

A man can feel mighty old surrounded by all these young ones who
are
just graduating from college. Just so you know - energy and
motivation
spans across any age difference!

I"m 30 and considering a shift from my current professional
career.
It
spooks me at times, but the prospects seem quite bright and
exciting
all the same.

Be sure to post any good links or information that you find. We
currently have a database set up to track the admissions process
and
also one to store questions to prepare for the inevitable big
interview . Contribute what you can!

Rich

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=cUYXAH5Xfmp0RfZKONvi-Tzhz-TvDcL_D_6ssNO3SoW4Yver1eLPZJjnJVFVui1c3IDl90Hrn9DiE0tYFVd_), hannah_e_y hannah_e_y@y...
wrote:
Hi there, I"ve just applied to the JET scheme, and found this
group
while trying to find out more about what I"m letting myself in
for!

I"m interested to know the ages of most applicants.

I am 27, and have been a primary school teacher in the UK for 6
years. Is anyone else as old as me and are there any folk who
are
leaving behind professional careers?

Am I mad?!

Hannah X

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
erin_christine79 [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=DJxwl0K0sPquVpbj3bW8tUsBac29c20KupuZ1Xkkb4STV00HEPDS7YBMN_9-1OjQGlKjVHPeQduIN2AB7-wFmQ"]erin_christine79@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?erin_christine79) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Fri Dec 12, 2003 12:01
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: another nubie</font>
<tt>What"s up everyone? It"s great to have support like this. I have not
really told anyone about my application the JET program, just in
case I don"t make it - I don"t want to explain myself a thousand
times. This is a randomly wierd question...as far as exercise goes
in Japan, does anyone know if we"ll have any type of access to a gym
or health center. I try to work out everyday, even if it"s just
running, but I was curious what to expect in Japan. Perhaps it would
depend on where I"m placed.

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
galapagosdrum [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=_iJu2sx71hixD0-6XYW8RNv_RXtT0sdTk2zydzN2hneoDEq8SHEsvic5lQEMXmqEX-Z6bVVNXYYcaUf9JBCz-hc"]jonhillhouse@m... (ymsgr:sendIM?galapagosdrum) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Fri Dec 12, 2003 1:03
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: UK Applicant</font>
<tt>Hi there

Would love to hear from any UK applicants, I have my interview next
Tuesday and am rather nervous!

Cheers

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
galapagosdrum [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=Bpkxj3r9hFryXMmUZvY-GfBEFA1QOuWlxaamVlT1ReszmVLK_dnU7ibZndDRgrBT9GFzobyfYF_R61yV12xI6G95UA"]jonhillhouse@m... (ymsgr:sendIM?galapagosdrum) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Fri Dec 12, 2003 12:56
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: UK Applicant</font>
<tt>Hiya people!

I have my interview next Tuesday in London and was wondering if where
are any fellow brits to share advice etc. Anyhow, good luck to you
all and let us hope we"ll all be drinking sake this time next year!

Seeya

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
RG Pascual rgpascual@c... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=Hk_WMZjFx8jla2pxAdpWKgLX6eXX9cQuV-kdZWE0_s5ZbGnt9X8RSa12gEdl36crhgEQlCiIHW2rqJV3ztc) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:59
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Teaching Assignments and Regions</font>
<tt>Hannah,

I didn"t think I had a good enough case to request a specific region.
Other than the typical weather patterns, I"m mostly ignorant about the
countrysides of Japan. I read from the JET-L mailing list that one JET
ALT was able to negotiate a transfer after his first year... perhaps
after living in Japan for a little while and actually traveling around
the country I might have a better picture of the places I would prefer
to live and work. I put a preference for a Suburb and no preference for
a region. I was hoping that stating no preference might improve my
chances of getting an assignment.

I"m interviewing from San Francisco, California; our group is the later
one - our move in date isn"t until August.

Rich

On Thursday, December 11, 2003, at 01:37 PM, hannah_e_y wrote:

Konichiwa JET setters,

Has everyone in the group requested a particular region of Japan? I
felt that I didn"t have a good enough reason for applying for a
particular preficture (other than the fact I"d heard of it, or My
pen friend lives there Which sounds a little pathetic!) so I ticked
the don"t mind box!! A bit scary, but I wonder if I will end up
with one of the less popular areas...? Be good to have a poll on
that one too! What is the general opinion? Is it too late to
request an area after applying?

Also, How about finding out who going from the UK and who from the
USA. Id the departure date the same?

And how about those who have applied in previous years, but were
unsucessful. Maybe they can help the rest of us by sharing their
experiences?

Hey, I"m on a roll tonight!

Hannah X





--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=s5vA78zdkkRf9Ri_8N38Hoy8iqhK1vLDOi_inZDDnNLe7NIA46OOK_TYNFW2PjzjUrZQ5HbbFTbExgDp3YUuAA), shinikenshi Shinikenshi@h...
wrote:
Howdy to all the new people!

::bows out of respect for the older people:: ^^

I"m actually curious to know how many people here are the youngin"s
on the board. Its just kind of interesting noting the people that
joing the group who already have a profession whereas us kids are
thinking that perhaps JET is that expanse of time to think a bit
longer about what we want to do in life.

Or maybe thats just me. x_x

Totally unrelated note but I noticed a good bunch of people in the
database chose either Kagawa or Nara as choices. Would be
interesting
if we all end at either places I suppose!

::ducks off to tackle another exam::

-Chris

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=s5vA78zdkkRf9Ri_8N38Hoy8iqhK1vLDOi_inZDDnNLe7NIA46OOK_TYNFW2PjzjUrZQ5HbbFTbExgDp3YUuAA), feenixsf rich@s... wrote:
Howdy Hannah and other JET-setters,

A man can feel mighty old surrounded by all these young ones who
are
just graduating from college. Just so you know - energy and
motivation
spans across any age difference!

I"m 30 and considering a shift from my current professional
career.
It
spooks me at times, but the prospects seem quite bright and
exciting
all the same.

Be sure to post any good links or information that you find. We
currently have a database set up to track the admissions process
and
also one to store questions to prepare for the inevitable big
interview . Contribute what you can!

Rich

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=s5vA78zdkkRf9Ri_8N38Hoy8iqhK1vLDOi_inZDDnNLe7NIA46OOK_TYNFW2PjzjUrZQ5HbbFTbExgDp3YUuAA), hannah_e_y hannah_e_y@y...
wrote:
Hi there, I"ve just applied to the JET scheme, and found this
group
while trying to find out more about what I"m letting myself in
for!

I"m interested to know the ages of most applicants.

I am 27, and have been a primary school teacher in the UK for 6
years. Is anyone else as old as me and are there any folk who
are
leaving behind professional careers?

Am I mad?!

Hannah X


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2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
RG Pascual rgpascual@c... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=XcjCSDHQo06J45fED841xHYwxGinAGWpAARSSo-Lnn7daKj6nx8VeZC5cVoRR0hh1tCpymH7fW1SImzc) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Fri Dec 12, 2003 6:08
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Exercise and Such</font>
<tt>After a few discussions with my Japanese tutor, I was disappointed to
find out that the Japanese do not have as aggressive or eclectic of a
palate for exercise as perhaps your typical Californian. While the big
cities may actually have full-service gyms and such, I"m not sure if
they will in the more rural area. I"m a triathlete on the side and the
idea of cycling for fitness (as opposed to just for commuting) is
considered a bit nutty and strange by most Japanese... I suppose the
same would go for running-swimming-and biking together... I guess there
might be ways to adapt. Can anyone out there speak from experience
about options and opportunities for exercise and fitness while living
in Japan?

Rich

On Thursday, December 11, 2003, at 04:01 PM, erin_christine79 wrote:

What"s up everyone? It"s great to have support like this. I have not
really told anyone about my application the JET program, just in
case I don"t make it - I don"t want to explain myself a thousand
times. This is a randomly wierd question...as far as exercise goes
in Japan, does anyone know if we"ll have any type of access to a gym
or health center. I try to work out everyday, even if it"s just
running, but I was curious what to expect in Japan. Perhaps it would
depend on where I"m placed.


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May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
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</a>
siberakh1 sifertb@h... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=VOu9gdODUJtbFf4hXxntis9AHIXjmNsa_uc00VJnaHe8o1Z36mtxc0yOVieln37b7j2Ttx0gy0VqRDA) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Fri Dec 12, 2003 4:33
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: prevalence of dairy in the japanese diet</font>
<tt>Hi! I"m new (joined a few days ago) and have a food question. How
big is dairy in Japan? I"m borderline allergic to milk and dairy
products. I can tolerate small amounts of cheese, like a slice or 2
of pizza once in a while, or a small amount of ice cream once a year -
yay birthday!, and cookies or chocolate don"t really bother me much,
but a small glass of milk or yogurt would mean going to the hospital
for a shot. How hard are soy substitutes to find in Japan (ie. soy
milk, soy cheese, soy yogurt/ice cream, etc.). Are products labeled
with ingredients? I counteract the lack of calcium through
supplements so I"m not overly concerned with getting the calcium
strictly through foods unless those are not allowed in japan @_@;;

My top choice was the Hokkaido region (I love snow!), followed by
Shikoku and Kyushu in case region matters in this question.

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
Matt [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=36f33qoJM0PCdc4ZiBId7cy1wkPACy1AT6rTgozTgwlwtFqL2p_mTrRjBdy6Kpoe-CtQmE3cefTGGDs"]dynamisx@b... (ymsgr:sendIM?dynamisx) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Fri Dec 12, 2003 9:25
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: UK Applicant</font>
<tt>Hi,

Good luck with your interview!

I had mine two weeks ago, and it was a good deal less painful that I
was imagining. I posted my thoughts here in message number 46.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/2004JET/message/46

The best advice I can give you is to read your application and essay
again, and think what kind of questions they might ask you from them.
Basically, so long as you can talk about / explain any opinions or
ideas you mention, you"ll be fine. (eg, if you follow Japanese news,
slip it into the conversation, and they"ll be sure to ask about it.)

My interviewers were very friendly, and I didn"t get the impression
they were trying to catch me out at all.

Matt


--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=QRofqD3lKXn3zXhYJoEW3xPkqfebP6IhWqH0vwwb3G3vzmQ7nyps-leye2crBlLRmzy8dJDxcJAMqj_HJoxe), galapagosdrum jonhillhouse@m...
wrote:
Hiya people!

I have my interview next Tuesday in London and was wondering if
where
are any fellow brits to share advice etc. Anyhow, good luck to you
all and let us hope we"ll all be drinking sake this time next year!

Seeya

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
bron_v [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=UDykp689IjJvwCtjcXl-GTXhSgqLsOp-LdlBMnyh1lpXijZFCZFxUdL4C9m8I5woemNoXjlCcTe4r2NA"]vealeb@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?bron_v) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Fri Dec 12, 2003 10:34
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Exercise and Such</font>
<tt>Well my family hosted a japanese student recently who was from a semi-
rural area outside Tokyo (can"t remember the name). He kept up a
strict exercise regime- ran for an hour every evening, and said he
did the same in Japan, but wasn"t a member of a gym. Not sure if that
was by choice, or b/c there were no facilities.

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=Vg1F_sJqogKv64jjg6EOeI9OqxFR-gFKfvk9vm65uuSKsJzakgPZdEXpMrrd6tXQ8ufNh5atXWV4ZeJav1_6), RG Pascual rgpascual@c... wrote:
After a few discussions with my Japanese tutor, I was disappointed
to
find out that the Japanese do not have as aggressive or eclectic of
a
palate for exercise as perhaps your typical Californian. While the
big
cities may actually have full-service gyms and such, I"m not sure
if
they will in the more rural area. I"m a triathlete on the side and
the
idea of cycling for fitness (as opposed to just for commuting) is
considered a bit nutty and strange by most Japanese... I suppose
the
same would go for running-swimming-and biking together... I guess
there
might be ways to adapt. Can anyone out there speak from experience
about options and opportunities for exercise and fitness while
living
in Japan?

Rich

On Thursday, December 11, 2003, at 04:01 PM, erin_christine79
wrote:

What"s up everyone? It"s great to have support like this. I have
not
really told anyone about my application the JET program, just in
case I don"t make it - I don"t want to explain myself a thousand
times. This is a randomly wierd question...as far as exercise goes
in Japan, does anyone know if we"ll have any type of access to a
gym
or health center. I try to work out everyday, even if it"s just
running, but I was curious what to expect in Japan. Perhaps it
would
depend on where I"m placed.


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2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
galapagosdrum [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=hRBYe0601LOb1p1DNfQt1Rfa-LSDtFpnh4eY16929fDYtZxxTh-eiPgi-ZimKY_Dy7Zn09p7Y7R2iGXpQne7k2ljjA"]jonhillhouse@m... (ymsgr:sendIM?galapagosdrum) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Fri Dec 12, 2003 11:46
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: UK Applicant</font>
<tt>Thanks Matt

Lots of cool advice and I am very thankful. Maybe we can keep in
touch, it is an unbearable wait isn"t it?! Oh, I"m guessing you
didn"t have to sing in your interview!

Jonathan

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
<a href="ymsgr:sendIM?bohemialt">http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/online.gif
</a>
bohemialt oooh_look_at_me@h... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=XHdar7aNLwmKUTQmNJAiImHLkqglhEbqZAZRP6WGgZ-9w6Fi3LtgP5Jn5FJI4NgpF18bD1VIB0KwP867MvWDYSLFMmra) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Fri Dec 12, 2003 8:05
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: UK Applicant</font>
<tt>
Hey!

I"ve got my interview in London on Thursday. EEEK. I"ve been freaking
myself out by reading those websites mentioned here that give tips
for the interview. If I was spontaneously asked to sing, I think I"d
faint!

Does anybody know how many applicants there are for each place from
the UK? If I don"t get accepted, I have other plans, but still, I
want to try my best!

Good luck!
Laura

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
MinhChanh_98 [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=JZgR8I_WOw3rHCValWv4RwcGZhtGXj43ZmC0SFOK3Vgd4eNcsd6vgOITAFBcO4uJ7grA51MQE5hpOmBVM13yvoU"]minhchanh_98@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?MinhChanh_98) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Fri Dec 12, 2003 9:22
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: UK Applicant</font>
<tt>Good Luck on your interview !

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=w7wF5HP2tP3PqmtUycS86fqUJYPF2Ohf0x1-u_MteJAIhFLDJTLX3FeCN-IJEn9fTOUgxoN4hNN_hAiu9Rau), bohemialt oooh_look_at_me@h...
wrote:

Hey!

I"ve got my interview in London on Thursday. EEEK. I"ve been
freaking
myself out by reading those websites mentioned here that give tips
for the interview. If I was spontaneously asked to sing, I think
I"d
faint!

Does anybody know how many applicants there are for each place
from
the UK? If I don"t get accepted, I have other plans, but still, I
want to try my best!

Good luck!
Laura

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
thatsasin [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=rFagTOUPhD3TgncwSURsIV_XwXZ2I5aQ_ZbejMo_v6g6V_kVj6lw6dsNhU4e4Bp5tBWTc__7Z3Cm6cPFGpw"]thatsasin@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?thatsasin) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Fri Dec 12, 2003 9:26
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: prevalence of dairy in the japanese diet</font>
<tt>I"m not sure, but I would guess that you won"t have a problem avoiding
dairy. I eat a lot of milk and cheese and sometimes had trouble
finding them at the grocery store. Most stores had them, but usually
not much of a variety (only one kind of prepackaged cheese, for
example). And I"m fairly sure that most Japanese dishes don"t contain
dairy products.

I don"t know about the ease of finding soy substitutes, but I"d be
interested in knowing the answer to this as well.

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=8-Ck9GoCKC_Kw6HKLdGMbGow-gSS8wR7Ki6_m2uuEULEnVTZgvvngetIcg3dP2ebRNKpcA0euEFW-xat1qo), siberakh1 sifertb@h... wrote:
Hi! I"m new (joined a few days ago) and have a food question. How
big is dairy in Japan? I"m borderline allergic to milk and dairy
products. I can tolerate small amounts of cheese, like a slice or 2
of pizza once in a while, or a small amount of ice cream once a year -
yay birthday!, and cookies or chocolate don"t really bother me much,
but a small glass of milk or yogurt would mean going to the hospital
for a shot. How hard are soy substitutes to find in Japan (ie. soy
milk, soy cheese, soy yogurt/ice cream, etc.). Are products labeled
with ingredients? I counteract the lack of calcium through
supplements so I"m not overly concerned with getting the calcium
strictly through foods unless those are not allowed in japan @_@;;

My top choice was the Hokkaido region (I love snow!), followed by
Shikoku and Kyushu in case region matters in this question.

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
Matt [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=MX3_AMixgF1EqNFSYOGpC9UuWQhPLuzLRu02FSoiHmy1Jg4rn85UREL2L2tK76EOhN0b6PiELmKQH7U"]dynamisx@b... (ymsgr:sendIM?dynamisx) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Fri Dec 12, 2003 11:56
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: UK Applicant</font>
<tt>Hi,

Good luck with your interview!

I guess I should mention that one of the ex-JETs at my interview
specifically mentioned the online interview advice sites, saying they
were either highly exaggerated, or the interviews in some other
countries are conducted by sadists.

There certainly weren"t any sadists at my interview!

Anyway, take it easy, and I"m sure it will go fine.

Matt


--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=En22eK4ZSGQPObWRLYKx7oRRI28GFua97SIb_-FueZ1UasKGlq6sxYWZG9VHhvK_RhdeMfisOZLa_o4waZY), bohemialt oooh_look_at_me@h...
wrote:

Hey!

I"ve got my interview in London on Thursday. EEEK. I"ve been
freaking
myself out by reading those websites mentioned here that give tips
for the interview. If I was spontaneously asked to sing, I think
I"d
faint!

Does anybody know how many applicants there are for each place from
the UK? If I don"t get accepted, I have other plans, but still, I
want to try my best!

Good luck!
Laura

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
RG Pascual rgpascual@c... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=DXLWMPIMmKcihhuHXRTriG0HV_82qA_9w-FdmHW0oi7lf9UPIKa2APgYr89PZiNtK0rO7F0Ive6_6DVsOg) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Dec 13, 2003 3:49
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] Re: UK Applicant</font>
<tt>Good luck on your interview. Fortunately my region interviews pretty
late in the game. While others have the relief of getting it over with,
I"ll be warming up to do my song and dance routine for the JET
committee. Maybe by then we"ll have it figured out exactly what song
we"re supposed to sing... lol. From what I"ve read, the many regions
all have their own flavor of interviewing. Don"t forget to reread your
personal essay and application before you go - most likely a lot of the
committees initial questions will come from what they read about you.

If you want a little warm-up, check out our database section for this
Yahoo group. I"m slowly compiling a list of typical questions
encountered from the various websites and weblogs I"ve scanned so far.
I"ve blown really big interviews in my past and what I"ve learned is
that you gotta relax a bit. Many of the answers you already know - no
sense in letting a little fear (ok, a lot of fear) and nervousness get
the best of you.

Rich
JET-Hopeful (2004)
San Francisco, CA - USA

On Friday, December 12, 2003, at 12:05 PM, bohemialt wrote:


Hey!

I"ve got my interview in London on Thursday. EEEK. I"ve been freaking
myself out by reading those websites mentioned here that give tips
for the interview. If I was spontaneously asked to sing, I think I"d
faint!

Does anybody know how many applicants there are for each place from
the UK? If I don"t get accepted, I have other plans, but still, I
want to try my best!

Good luck!
Laura


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2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
acrazylazyeye [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=aeTcD73jlcfc4FHJdsYAtKKZaffTYgepZTSTyVN3MFyeUmfGN_E-d-AuYINEUOeQvxsGM7-Txkgjj_ZWz4NMim_N"]acrazylazyeye@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?acrazylazyeye) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Dec 13, 2003 4:12
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Good places for Japanese news</font>
<tt>Hey all!
Was just gonna pick you guys brains (hope ya don"t mind) about some
good sources for Japanese news! (in english sadly). Also, can anyone
recommend a good book on Japanese history?
Thanks in advance!

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
Justin! [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=25ltRZpidg8imBUFFAh8z5943OpXN1TPek8x6CPdBNOP6cs9nwBw70FVDiAG8DOnE8Qk9bMNKntBd52oqZ6IB2qO8Q"]justin@e... (ymsgr:sendIM?atomic98yak) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Dec 13, 2003 4:23
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Good places for Japanese news</font>
<tt>The daily Yomiuri is always a good start.

http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/index-e.htm

Hey all!
Was just gonna pick you guys brains (hope ya don"t mind) about some
good sources for Japanese news! (in english sadly). Also, can anyone
recommend a good book on Japanese history?
Thanks in advance!

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
ardvarkmerrakech [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=CCahU8nKAugSqBcsCFwOV_u3nD5AAPWdMQ3ktRlu8VCE3dQYr7npMegXVGMGNK-Zll7LzHvXAr4JGugY"]pnat29@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?ardvarkmerrakech) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Dec 13, 2003 4:43
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Hi! I Have applied to JET "04 too! :)</font>
<tt>Hi, Hai! YAY!
I"m so greatful for the invitation to join this convenient board. :)
I am writing from Florida, the University of Florida to be exact. I
have tried to find more Floridians that are applying aswell on the
Big Daikon Message bords but i"m not really finding any at all.
Hopefully here is where I can find some local friends! :D

My name is Natalie and I am a photography major in the School
of Fine arts at UF. I am graduating this week and am so happy!! :D
I applied for JET about a month ago and placed MIAMI as my interview
location.

Looking forward to knowing everyone else just a little more!! :) :D
-Natalie

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
galapagosdrum [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=yCWdvTR2GmVneOzxxsnJC5J7DiGD3M6hGgnmds3Sn6B03cWeh0Mg3Gvh6-l1kbyl-VHQRWPXpoCCpaNiy_Ilwc4"]jonhillhouse@m... (ymsgr:sendIM?galapagosdrum) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Dec 13, 2003 4:00
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: UK Applicant</font>
<tt>Hi Laura

Yeah, I would also love to know that. I know about 600 people were
accepted last year but I coudn"t find any info on how many people
applied! My interview is on the Tuesday, I"ll be sure to fill you in
on any strange questions etc. Good luck!

Jonathan

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
<a href="ymsgr:sendIM?manshonyagger">http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/online.gif
</a>
Stephen Whaley manshonyagger@y... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=TMxbfU6OV8Ppox4xdFm6mUglsT8nkE6tSUGwTfYq5N_YqkUF6v_JOwsRjTcrJEsUXLP-9eI1tZnx8H2HmXsVLsqehQ) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Dec 13, 2003 4:35
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Good places for Japanese news</font>
<tt>--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=eT53RGWbfBmD42Wsbnse5-9lLrMMBzS6AgSDtOhNCq8rgKTf0LGBOKhA7pzjx0YTfy-URZYYIEBDwA0BvZ8), acrazylazyeye acrazylazyeye@y...
wrote:
Hey all!
Was just gonna pick you guys brains (hope ya don"t mind) about some
good sources for Japanese news! (in english sadly).

These are the sites I usually go to.

The Daily Yomiuri"s already been mentioned, but don"t forget to check
out Pera Pera Penguin"s language class at the bottom of the page!

Asahi.com
http://www.asahi.com/english/english.html
only seems to update weekly

Mainichi Daily News
http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/
for tabloid fun. The Wai Wai section totally panders to the Wacky
Japan metality.

Japan Times
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/

Kyodo News
http://home.kyodo.co.jp/


Also, can anyone
recommend a good book on Japanese history?

Here"s a few off the top of my head.
The Emergence of Modern Japan by Janet Hunter is a good introduction.
If you can find it, the Cambridge History of Japan is suppose to be
the definitive, but it comes in six volumes and is very, very
expensive. There"s a Cambridge Encyclopedia of Japan, too, which I
haven"t read but will soon. The Making of Modern Japan by Marius B.
Jansen has lots on the Edo Period.

Check with your local Library service. They might have some good
stuff gathering dust.

Stephen W

Thanks in advance!

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
Hannah [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=LcsRIKiuPCK2zQpw-Ipp_-S_eJp9p-nZPH88df9-BnhDKBxZmKeEBed_6tWM9QzfkDTf0z4G3UMhil3dZnt5"]hannah_e_y@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?hannah_e_y) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sun Dec 14, 2003 11:26
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: New person! Hi!</font>
<tt>Cheers for your reply Stephen!

I don"t feel 2 old now!! ha ha! :o)

It actually seems that there is a good wide range of ages applying,
in this group n e way.

Jumping the gun a bit, but does n e 1 know how they organise the
flights out? Does every1 fly out 2gether? I"m looking 4ward 2 it so
much already and haven"t even been accepted for an interview yet,
gotta be confident!!

Exciting stuff!

Hannah X

PS Can"t wait to here how people"s interviews go in London.
GOOD LUCK!




--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=D95tr_i99K43J2o9U2OLXeDFXpE_BT0yM1OnopPP62N7o7tavmhcNA3ys7BI1wUgLuBTqy-_mGtWBOHEczZfCQ), Stephen Whaley manshonyagger@y...
wrote:
I"m a 30 year old library worker.

I know someone who went on JET last year, he"s 34 and worked for a
company that makes missiles before that.



manshonyagger//Stephen W


--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=D95tr_i99K43J2o9U2OLXeDFXpE_BT0yM1OnopPP62N7o7tavmhcNA3ys7BI1wUgLuBTqy-_mGtWBOHEczZfCQ), hannah_e_y hannah_e_y@y...
wrote:
Hi there, I"ve just applied to the JET scheme, and found this
group
while trying to find out more about what I"m letting myself in
for!

I"m interested to know the ages of most applicants.

I am 27, and have been a primary school teacher in the UK for 6
years. Is anyone else as old as me and are there any folk who
are
leaving behind professional careers?

Am I mad?!

Hannah X

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
<a href="ymsgr:sendIM?manshonyagger">http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/online.gif
</a>
manshonyagger manshonyagger@y... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=BxIilwcQyzpNcXxl9E-stHrJzcxPCZBdPH9yzVoMrGCTYIypbSHDxW9bRCU2SZXHk5AMLXPJcypMDAUEnZ7XFoUFCQ) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sun Dec 14, 2003 11:35
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: New person! Hi!</font>
<tt>--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=gndzVQjKrgqT167HyJfs0fnZDQ5L17-hmVNd5KWC-W2G3W9wrIv8pbUcIz2wcpsEB4ozM_zyys6TO-_aBXII9pw), Hannah hannah_e_y@y... wrote:
Cheers for your reply Stephen!

I don"t feel 2 old now!! ha ha! :o)

It actually seems that there is a good wide range of ages applying,
in this group n e way.

Jumping the gun a bit, but does n e 1 know how they organise the
flights out? Does every1 fly out 2gether?



Everyone flies out together, business class, no less. Depending on
where you interview at you all gather in a big group in either
Edinburgh or London and travel onwards from there.

Stephen W



I"m looking 4ward 2 it so
much already and haven"t even been accepted for an interview yet,
gotta be confident!!

Exciting stuff!

Hannah X

PS Can"t wait to here how people"s interviews go in London.
GOOD LUCK!

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
Hannah [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=KOKTlCSlG4W74Oe_bZd47xaUPno0fi9ChD22AczXkqi9SIEq3YN5CO5eq0jQ3zxaVNa5URrcwNAMqjA"]hannah_e_y@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?hannah_e_y) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sun Dec 14, 2003 12:08
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: New person! Hi!</font>
<tt>


Everyone flies out together, business class, no less. Depending on
where you interview at you all gather in a big group in either
Edinburgh or London and travel onwards from there.

Stephen W



Wow! Business class!

Hannah

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
meanderw [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=DsTfC6LGXXzzl0_Aun5MzOgJsBeFlAbfxeArtN5dag2oT2X65eGpnCwqHaFiyga39uvPLNRwWaUc"]amandawolf@m... (ymsgr:sendIM?meanderw) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sun Dec 14, 2003 6:22
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: groups and flights...</font>
<tt>Actually there are two groups of JETs - group A and group B. The groups arrive
in
Tokyo a week apart. Group A usually arrives at the very end of July and group B
a
week later in August. There are UK JETs in both groups. U.S. JETs arrive in
both group
A and B depending on which consulate you apply through. I"m not sure about other

countries.

And JETs no longer fly business class. That was phased out a few years ago.
Sorry to
disappoint anyone.

-Amanda, ALT 2001-2003




Everyone flies out together, business class, no less. Depending on
where you interview at you all gather in a big group in either
Edinburgh or London and travel onwards from there.

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
[/url]
Hannah [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=5GCoR5LRv2uKNR_JM-0xephM4CbB1CBJnrs3Z7athMHDlvtsS4_Wam3f4aJ8T9LEbhxiO19h1lbKRw"]hannah_e_y@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?hannah_e_y) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sun Dec 14, 2003 10:56
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: groups and flights...</font>
<tt>Thanks Amanda

All useful to know. I thought Business class was too good to be true!

Hannah



--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=U2TZ8509aIusCUusbFOjIIWM4adlKq30_F625dCY_JYj7de_m5Pt4WedCdYHiTWeLjyPPQ8FE46_mmWUSv-MTA), meanderw amandawolf@m... wrote:
Actually there are two groups of JETs - group A and group B. The
groups arrive in
Tokyo a week apart. Group A usually arrives at the very end of July
and group B a
week later in August. There are UK JETs in both groups. U.S. JETs
arrive in both group
A and B depending on which consulate you apply through. I"m not
sure about other
countries.

And JETs no longer fly business class. That was phased out a few
years ago. Sorry to
disappoint anyone.

-Amanda, ALT 2001-2003

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
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2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:48
From:
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</a>
bohemialt oooh_look_at_me@h... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=0SZq80XPC8VvS5dn7lZyRg-v9mWlCTQgKm7h5BQvEQqnb22xsK7EBAP_2iaKMT7Agv2TS_hTHlzo4FTnNXP0zQRqqY-Izw) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 11:11
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: UK Applicant</font>
<tt>
Heh. Thanks, it"d be great if you could fill me in on the London
interviews. You should scrawl a note somewhere in the Embassy that I
can find and read on Thursday! :-D

Anyhoo, I think I read somewhere that there are 10 applicants (in UK)
for 6 places, but I"m not sure if this is true. Pretty good odds
anyway.

Right, well I"m off to buy my train ticket to Lahhndin.

Fingers crossed for everyone,
Laura

In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=2Ed2A9gYEzZ0FLEV1azr-WzCST_3Yncj4KcfFKBM_QN6BHxlgqTXJBGEiGdIDKBuujMClD1F-b28WQi_HQ), galapagosdrum jonhillhouse@m...
wrote:
Hi Laura

Yeah, I would also love to know that. I know about 600 people were
accepted last year but I coudn"t find any info on how many people
applied! My interview is on the Tuesday, I"ll be sure to fill you
in
on any strange questions etc. Good luck!

Jonathan

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
Matt [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=a3NlZfHyLZdlyVTSDV4ofN30dzDyYSbHm-VufyAnAdehlrYgSyZsrqFijmeaL_WnT5a3d6gcBDM7ble8"]dynamisx@b... (ymsgr:sendIM?dynamisx) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 12:49
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: UK Applicant</font>
<tt>Hi Laura,

Anyhoo, I think I read somewhere that there are 10 applicants (in
UK)
for 6 places, but I"m not sure if this is true. Pretty good odds
anyway.

That sounds about right, I think there are about 600 UK JETs each
year, and I read somewhere that they accept about 60% of interviewees.


Right, well I"m off to buy my train ticket to Lahhndin.

Fingers crossed for everyone,
Laura

Good luck!

Matt

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
jmegregian [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=5x2Wtudji14T_sMw5zdXqlJqYzCWnSaCvIIbJUxUybi4vvzOStFmswinyt58t-g0v3eAiJ-HFDldMaWt"]jmegregian@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?jmegregian) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 3:50
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: New Member</font>
<tt>Hello,

My name is Jeanine and I applied to the JET Prpgram a few weeks ago.
I currently reside in Flint, Michigan. I"m interested in any
information about the interview process and the day to day stuff that
you can only really find out about from people who have lived in
Japan.

I look forward to making new friends and contacts from this group.

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
Jonathan [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=V88hY9j6kWRMCL69obtg90nLVhvc_J4yemFT8b3I-Q9PfBX93f6jpT8Q0CAb2--tM0SwNLQhNp7NUYWTHKIThfxqEFM"]hillhousejonathan@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?galapagosdrum) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 4:20
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: New Member</font>
<tt>Hi Jeanine

I have my interview tommorrow (arrgrgghhh!). Pretty stressed at the
moment but I"ll let you know about the kind of questions I get asked
etc. Do you know when your interview is scheduled for?

Take care,

Jonathan

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
Thomas, Nicholas D [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=HzHs7_89tIffAy5pUDgVGDiKEERgfT3PKc0cMku256LCG0j-VM_x6sHhshjQEUo0cFcrjvpgHH05c3lt2Ylw1gd-QaKj2So"]nicholas.thomas@i... (ymsgr:sendIM?nikku_tomasu) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 4:44
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: RE: [2004JET] Re: New Member</font>
<tt>Good luck Jon.

The only advice that I will give is to be relaxed and talkative, and to make
sure you can name a) at least 5 famous Japanese people(the prime minister and
emperor are a good place to start), and b) the 4 main islands of Japan.

I"ve not had my interview yet, but I"m told those pop up fairly often.

Let us know how it goes.

Nik


-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan [mailto:hillhousejonathan@h... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=fUxn-9GjoKV4Gltn2pFnvC_L3X7waSvwDaiS6nIIsbB9DIzl1Y2qkPkn63Rc97DUOlkvN5JNIl8SgOdM6CVi-JO0qmc)]
Sent: Mon 15/12/2003 16:20
To: 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=gcGyBQHe8FqSUINZsCS2qCgkpApWn0S2P_e-_zwfANtC8lQ08Owe6V66XhfleY97FXgacdMqhshdodTh5cj3)
Cc:
Subject: [2004JET] Re: New Member

Hi Jeanine

I have my interview tommorrow (arrgrgghhh!). Pretty stressed at the
moment but I"ll let you know about the kind of questions I get asked
etc. Do you know when your interview is scheduled for?

Take care,

Jonathan



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2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
<a href="ymsgr:sendIM?jsbnbry">http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/online.gif
</a>
jsbnbry jsbnbry@m... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=pPj5fWJxKe2c1hOdLcCf-eZIydp0wn589FdE6pUJICrKYgz_1PXqA6oxBhIvtgxar9K1Cr8XsnGE) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Tue Dec 16, 2003 12:18
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Yahoo!</font>
<tt>Just surfin the JET Programme forum and stumbled onto Justin Pool"s
creation. Great Idea. I am an applicant for the 2004-2005 JET
Programme from Canada. Good Luck to all and I hope to get to know as
many of you as I can no matter where we"re all from.

Jay

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
<a href="ymsgr:sendIM?jsbnbry">http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/online.gif
</a>
jsbnbry jsbnbry@m... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=l9fe4csQG2K8UDQc2wZBpVdLXQ5Ly3wSCCTsgIixP1DQzPVCyam_yBJakh4tHZ2DmgGZXRy8YdlE) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Tue Dec 16, 2003 12:27
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Good places for Japanese news</font>
<tt>A good book is Jansen"s The Making of Modern Japan. Publish by
Harvard UP.


--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=0VTMvjzkUQSMaOQKceumbQaYNENA3v_gf67fczucBPjG-vLyA-rLJ6TWt7Y6ZW40KnEvy9-h9GhldoZHFyXpr6sm), acrazylazyeye acrazylazyeye@y...
wrote:
Hey all!
Was just gonna pick you guys brains (hope ya don"t mind) about some
good sources for Japanese news! (in english sadly). Also, can
anyone
recommend a good book on Japanese history?
Thanks in advance!

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
Christopher Ling [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=1iLEzS8_yyyp-7UXG1BcclYGwl3w1LRFCtJNO9USArKwTlAukhyhfo04YKRM11I5FUh3EWL1lT2cnI6hnbc"]Shinikenshi@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?shinikenshi) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:36
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: RE: [2004JET] Exercise and Such</font>
<tt>From what I remember on one of my previous trips down to Kansai, there are
gyms (something on par with the 24 Hours Fitness franchise...) in the towns
in and around Kyoto and Osaka that are owned by Konami.

I definitely know there are sporting facilities somewhere in Okubo nearby
the station but in general, gyms and such are available but are perhaps not
as prevalent in the US (...or here [So. California] I suppose. @_@) though
from experiences in Sendai, the best exercise is just grabbing a bicycle and
just riding around town or the countryside. Honestly, you can never get
tired of exploring and that was exercise enough for me. :)

Chris

After a few discussions with my Japanese tutor, I was disappointed to
find out that the Japanese do not have as aggressive or eclectic of a
palate for exercise as perhaps your typical Californian. While the big
cities may actually have full-service gyms and such, I"m not sure if
they will in the more rural area. I"m a triathlete on the side and the
idea of cycling for fitness (as opposed to just for commuting) is
considered a bit nutty and strange by most Japanese... I suppose the
same would go for running-swimming-and biking together... I guess there
might be ways to adapt. Can anyone out there speak from experience
about options and opportunities for exercise and fitness while living
in Japan?

Rich

On Thursday, December 11, 2003, at 04:01 PM, erin_christine79 wrote:

What"s up everyone? It"s great to have support like this. I have not
really told anyone about my application the JET program, just in
case I don"t make it - I don"t want to explain myself a thousand
times. This is a randomly wierd question...as far as exercise goes
in Japan, does anyone know if we"ll have any type of access to a gym
or health center. I try to work out everyday, even if it"s just
running, but I was curious what to expect in Japan. Perhaps it would
depend on where I"m placed.


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From:
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<font size="-0">Date: Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:39
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: RE: [2004JET] prevalence of dairy in the japanese diet</font>
<tt>Its actually moderately difficult to locate stuff like cheese in a market
(at least from what I remember) unless you go to one of those international
markets which are good substitutes for hunting down elusive comfort foods
in case you can"t stand Japanese stuffs for so long. :P

Too bad though, since from what I recall, the Hokkaido area is known for
making awesome ice cream among other things. ^^;

Chris

Hi! I"m new (joined a few days ago) and have a food question. How
big is dairy in Japan? I"m borderline allergic to milk and dairy
products. I can tolerate small amounts of cheese, like a slice or 2
of pizza once in a while, or a small amount of ice cream once a year -
yay birthday!, and cookies or chocolate don"t really bother me much,
but a small glass of milk or yogurt would mean going to the hospital
for a shot. How hard are soy substitutes to find in Japan (ie. soy
milk, soy cheese, soy yogurt/ice cream, etc.). Are products labeled
with ingredients? I counteract the lack of calcium through
supplements so I"m not overly concerned with getting the calcium
strictly through foods unless those are not allowed in japan @_@;;

My top choice was the Hokkaido region (I love snow!), followed by
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From:
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<font size="-0">Date: Tue Dec 16, 2003 6:24
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Urgent Essay info needed!</font>
<tt>Hi,

Does n e 1 in the UK remember the rules for the essay for
application?

Font size, spacing etc?

If so, please can you let me know ASAP!

Cheers!

Hannah X

PS Will explain l8r!

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
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</a>
manshonyagger@y... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=a2AwtGA5ymAGqp_hz3JFdPIXrSqwLooiSL2sZUT-B1HiLdk_2D4hpexOWZSadqEQ1-3phWzcw3Y5zN5xXwB5baV58Q) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Tue Dec 16, 2003 6:50
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Urgent Essay info needed!</font>
<tt>Font size 12 and double spacing, if my memory seves me correctly.
Which sometimes it doesn"t, admittedly.

Stephen W


--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=jshDrO7p04B04bO_Q8IRXTKs_qrH6-4MRcRVxBNSy7-Vp3ZoU2-wsyS0mvU5lWKp9XvppOHkgN2-L3JhNViS), hannah_e_y@y... wrote:
Hi,

Does n e 1 in the UK remember the rules for the essay for
application?

Font size, spacing etc?

If so, please can you let me know ASAP!

Cheers!

Hannah X

PS Will explain l8r!

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
[url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=SVlsfvk-FqiNYZRBEK_w4sCBlv14JS5-OFxTOA_BnQ2ntjlGicHTIhoNzMkg-oi_0j6H7SxXl82sf8BReA"]dynamisx@b... (ymsgr:sendIM?dynamisx) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Tue Dec 16, 2003 7:00
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Urgent Essay info needed!</font>
<tt>800 - 1000 words. Times New Roman, 12 point, double spaced.

Matt


--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=EuQ_wE3Fx8krGiRwF66XlxdPz1a10De1Ik1bCJyNjsEV5MxBCSktl_VRVDBc8aJA8XEqTdTorluzFsC67n4AKX7V), manshonyagger@y... wrote:
Font size 12 and double spacing, if my memory seves me correctly.
Which sometimes it doesn"t, admittedly.

Stephen W


--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=EuQ_wE3Fx8krGiRwF66XlxdPz1a10De1Ik1bCJyNjsEV5MxBCSktl_VRVDBc8aJA8XEqTdTorluzFsC67n4AKX7V), hannah_e_y@y... wrote:
Hi,

Does n e 1 in the UK remember the rules for the essay for
application?

Font size, spacing etc?

If so, please can you let me know ASAP!

Cheers!

Hannah X

PS Will explain l8r!

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
[url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=rW5uuR-F1USqOF0B6RZHexGEhHTPqeBQToW8p6oicelkjo9eJGSGrQVgKfKGWFX7YY8iBIdmtmu5-Rljwo8"]hannah_e_y@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?hannah_e_y) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Tue Dec 16, 2003 7:26
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Urgent Essay info needed!</font>
<tt>Thank you, Arigato, thank you, Arigato, thank you Matt and Stephan!

Huge kiss!

I will buy you lots of saki when I see you in Japan, cos this may
mean I get in! At least a slightly better chance n e way!

And because you have been so kind, in turn, you will pass as well,
and we will all be as happy as the flowers on a sunny day! (Which is
probably quite happy!?!)



Hannah (Having a slightly nutty day!)

XX

PS I mean it about the saki!


--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=5u_3BYr92xxeEH48rvM0gtYYgkJsScJPi61nX6PB2wDH1Q8xQyfDJf8phKURN_KrR3X1OwivCdeowUamzEWPlZQ), dynamisx@b... wrote:
800 - 1000 words. Times New Roman, 12 point, double spaced.

Matt


--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=5u_3BYr92xxeEH48rvM0gtYYgkJsScJPi61nX6PB2wDH1Q8xQyfDJf8phKURN_KrR3X1OwivCdeowUamzEWPlZQ), manshonyagger@y... wrote:
Font size 12 and double spacing, if my memory seves me
correctly.
Which sometimes it doesn"t, admittedly.

Stephen W


--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=5u_3BYr92xxeEH48rvM0gtYYgkJsScJPi61nX6PB2wDH1Q8xQyfDJf8phKURN_KrR3X1OwivCdeowUamzEWPlZQ), hannah_e_y@y... wrote:
Hi,

Does n e 1 in the UK remember the rules for the essay for
application?

Font size, spacing etc?

If so, please can you let me know ASAP!

Cheers!

Hannah X

PS Will explain l8r!

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
[url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=tTajMlv38I45EVw4ThKqbcpnIpIyf-fZykfuPHEhmDe4vsFK_NV-xEiQHSr5Diewhpsuv-Evpxm-PlBtZLKxUk-f4Q"]hillhousejonathan@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?galapagosdrum) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Dec 17, 2003 12:56
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: My inteview in London</font>
<tt>I awoke one crsip, wintry morning in mid December......okay then,
i"ll skip to the important bit!

I went to London for my Interview and was greeted by a really nice
guy called Will who reassured my that the interview is not as bad as
a lot of people make it out to be. This was helpful because I always
get really nervous in any kind of interview situation!

First was the written test. I found this quite easy because I had
crammed a bit on famous people after Matt"s great advice posted on
this forum - cheers Matt! There was a section on English culture as
well as Japanese culture - for example, which cities would you take a
group of Japanese students to visit and why?

After the written test I had the chance to ask Will some questions
about the JET course. I asked him a lot about his own trip to Japan
and it was really cool to meet someone who had got a lot out of the
programme.

And the interview. There were two interviewers, an American guy and a
Japanese woman. Very nice people and very laid back. Although the
Japanese Embassy looks very formal and imposing, the interview was
very informal. Most of the questions asked my opinions on things as
opposed to asking for specific answers. The first question they asked
reflected this - Why do you want to go to Japan? . Um, to eat
sushi I replied. No I didn"t really, that would just be silly.

As a lot of people have reccommended, I would advise people who have
yet to be interviewed to re-read their essays a couple of times. Most
of the questions they asked, if not all, were related to the things I
had written about.

To end my short tale, I think I did okay. I thought that I put across
my enthusiasm for the Japanese culture and landscape quite well.
However, due to my inevitable nerves I tended to waffle a bit without
really taking time to think about the question in deatil. I would
reccommend that you try and relax (easier done than said I know). My
interviewers were really nice people and as the interview progressed
I was able to relax a bit more, safe in the knowledge that they
weren"t going to snap in with a tough question! I really don"t know
what the outcome will be, kind of think that my nerves may have let
me down. Hey, it"s a long wait and I"m going to try and forget about
it for a while and have a relaxing christmas

Big thanks go out to Matt, a fellow applicant who joined me for a
drink after our interviews. Our talk about how things went helped
soothe the oohh, how did I do?! syndrome and of course, it was
great to meet another applicant. I hope I"ll be able to meet up with
you all in Japan and drink lots of sake! (fingers crossed!)

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
[url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=jkeHRhzEGGT8xPfJQW5lwYPZ_YVdkgW28fDLjQ3_K7KEjxvsXWMWHGnsIHqgu9n5rXoap1qcLDd16fkALCRM108"]justin@e... (ymsgr:sendIM?atomic98yak) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Dec 17, 2003 2:14
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: My inteview in London</font>
<tt>Congratulations Jonathan, it sounds like you did pretty well at your
interview. I wish I could get my interview out of the way and know
I"ve done everything I could. Unfortunately, I won"t even know if I
get an interview until late-January or early February. Does anyone
know if the American version also has a written test like that? I
hadn"t heard anything about it. Good luck to you, and to everyone else!


--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=VCdwKjb_6S7oVWwa-Cpky3xv07dYydbv8DDvYmzIpqNnfBRMH3RE47J8mnpjHKtVw4WUByj_qdF9SADZcJAQ), hillhousejonathan@h... wrote:
I awoke one crsip, wintry morning in mid December......okay then,
i"ll skip to the important bit!

I went to London for my Interview and was greeted by a really nice
guy called Will who reassured my that the interview is not as bad as
a lot of people make it out to be. This was helpful because I always
get really nervous in any kind of interview situation!

First was the written test. I found this quite easy because I had
crammed a bit on famous people after Matt"s great advice posted on
this forum - cheers Matt! There was a section on English culture as
well as Japanese culture - for example, which cities would you take a
group of Japanese students to visit and why?

After the written test I had the chance to ask Will some questions
about the JET course. I asked him a lot about his own trip to Japan
and it was really cool to meet someone who had got a lot out of the
programme.

And the interview. There were two interviewers, an American guy and a
Japanese woman. Very nice people and very laid back. Although the
Japanese Embassy looks very formal and imposing, the interview was
very informal. Most of the questions asked my opinions on things as
opposed to asking for specific answers. The first question they asked
reflected this - Why do you want to go to Japan? . Um, to eat
sushi I replied. No I didn"t really, that would just be silly.

As a lot of people have reccommended, I would advise people who have
yet to be interviewed to re-read their essays a couple of times. Most
of the questions they asked, if not all, were related to the things I
had written about.

To end my short tale, I think I did okay. I thought that I put across
my enthusiasm for the Japanese culture and landscape quite well.
However, due to my inevitable nerves I tended to waffle a bit without
really taking time to think about the question in deatil. I would
reccommend that you try and relax (easier done than said I know). My
interviewers were really nice people and as the interview progressed
I was able to relax a bit more, safe in the knowledge that they
weren"t going to snap in with a tough question! I really don"t know
what the outcome will be, kind of think that my nerves may have let
me down. Hey, it"s a long wait and I"m going to try and forget about
it for a while and have a relaxing christmas

Big thanks go out to Matt, a fellow applicant who joined me for a
drink after our interviews. Our talk about how things went helped
soothe the oohh, how did I do?! syndrome and of course, it was
great to meet another applicant. I hope I"ll be able to meet up with
you all in Japan and drink lots of sake! (fingers crossed!)

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
[url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=p-_SsgJtSpmXX6HfLraXMzNnWmQUEY09mNRkwSKmXT1YwNgrDXfxL4bVKMtVesRshBK90y8mq4bDxhLA"]dynamisx@b... (ymsgr:sendIM?dynamisx) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Dec 17, 2003 7:22
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: My inteview in London</font>
<tt>Way to go Jonathan!

Forget about JET for a little while, and see you in Japan next summer!

Matt

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=zm6zRF1oTZESbtGqZt7AIIJLyG887G3pKUPAq4BgKVabLgo8WH2Mvifn_xY9PED56OkGYK2x1XWPVGOwVYM), hillhousejonathan@h... wrote:
I awoke one crsip, wintry morning in mid December......okay then,
i"ll skip to the important bit!

I went to London for my Interview and was greeted by a really nice
guy called Will who reassured my that the interview is not as bad
as
a lot of people make it out to be. This was helpful because I
always
get really nervous in any kind of interview situation!

First was the written test. I found this quite easy because I had
crammed a bit on famous people after Matt"s great advice posted on
this forum - cheers Matt! There was a section on English culture as
well as Japanese culture - for example, which cities would you take
a
group of Japanese students to visit and why?

After the written test I had the chance to ask Will some questions
about the JET course. I asked him a lot about his own trip to Japan
and it was really cool to meet someone who had got a lot out of the
programme.

And the interview. There were two interviewers, an American guy and
a
Japanese woman. Very nice people and very laid back. Although the
Japanese Embassy looks very formal and imposing, the interview was
very informal. Most of the questions asked my opinions on things as
opposed to asking for specific answers. The first question they
asked
reflected this - Why do you want to go to Japan? . Um, to eat
sushi I replied. No I didn"t really, that would just be silly.

As a lot of people have reccommended, I would advise people who
have
yet to be interviewed to re-read their essays a couple of times.
Most
of the questions they asked, if not all, were related to the things
I
had written about.

To end my short tale, I think I did okay. I thought that I put
across
my enthusiasm for the Japanese culture and landscape quite well.
However, due to my inevitable nerves I tended to waffle a bit
without
really taking time to think about the question in deatil. I would
reccommend that you try and relax (easier done than said I know).
My
interviewers were really nice people and as the interview
progressed
I was able to relax a bit more, safe in the knowledge that they
weren"t going to snap in with a tough question! I really don"t know
what the outcome will be, kind of think that my nerves may have let
me down. Hey, it"s a long wait and I"m going to try and forget
about
it for a while and have a relaxing christmas

Big thanks go out to Matt, a fellow applicant who joined me for a
drink after our interviews. Our talk about how things went helped
soothe the oohh, how did I do?! syndrome and of course, it was
great to meet another applicant. I hope I"ll be able to meet up
with
you all in Japan and drink lots of sake! (fingers crossed!)

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
[url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=YRcdfY8hx8QYHOoCwsdf4xUBQOjOfTqbAEwfwZ3n7FiywMLm769ko88hg1ytJaMa9T0Q3aDPa-G1Fk86"]TomMiskey@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?sjsamurai007) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Dec 17, 2003 8:55
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Interview</font>
<tt>Since I was not only on JET but have also helped during 4 year"s of
interviews/ orientations since I got back, let me throw in my 2
cents. Note that I left from and have helped with the San Francisco
branch, and other branches may be different.

In San Francisco, there has never been a written exam or anything
like that in all the years I"ve been involved. Either it"s new this
year, or it was specific to the UK process. In the US, you"ll be
greeted by one or more ex-JETs, same as over in the UK. They"ll
take your name and info down, answer any questions you have, etc.
They"ll also show you to a waiting area where a continuously playing
video about JET is playing. When it"s your turn, they"ll lead you
to a room with 2-3 interviewers in it, who"ll usually talk with you
for 15-30 minutes, depending upon number of applicants they have to
get through that day, and whether they are behind schedule.

They ask that we not give specifics on the questions that could be
asked (which are unique to each person, in many cases), so my only
advice is try to relax, smile, and do your best, and not dwell on it
too much afterwards. I was really pretty worried, didn"t think I"d
conveyed enough good reasons for them to choose me, and didn"t think
I"d be accepted, yet I was. Many of the other JETs felt the same
way after their interviews. The feelings of doubt, worry, relief,
anxiety, and Damn, I forgot to mention X, Y, and Z! are extremely
common. So good luck to everyone, and just try to do your best!

Tom

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
Christopher Ling [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=57Wit7V-18lxWSv3ehd3n-oHimnK0iiQDxQ8_ltrwC4X0czaAoOMuFnE5l8hhxbydguLyhPo5CzQFyolYeuXebvS"]Shinikenshi@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?shinikenshi) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:28
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: RE: [2004JET] Interview</font>
<tt>Good advice points. :)

Worrying never solved anything especially in situations like these, though I
must admit with many folks and even a few JET reps mentioning that
acceptances have dropped due to the larger influx of applicants in the last
couple years, I think its hard to negate all that anxiety.

Wait, I was worrying there! Better stop doing that or I"ll jinx myself. ;)

Chris

Since I was not only on JET but have also helped during 4 year"s of
interviews/ orientations since I got back, let me throw in my 2
cents. Note that I left from and have helped with the San Francisco
branch, and other branches may be different.

In San Francisco, there has never been a written exam or anything
like that in all the years I"ve been involved. Either it"s new this
year, or it was specific to the UK process. In the US, you"ll be
greeted by one or more ex-JETs, same as over in the UK. They"ll
take your name and info down, answer any questions you have, etc.
They"ll also show you to a waiting area where a continuously playing
video about JET is playing. When it"s your turn, they"ll lead you
to a room with 2-3 interviewers in it, who"ll usually talk with you
for 15-30 minutes, depending upon number of applicants they have to
get through that day, and whether they are behind schedule.

They ask that we not give specifics on the questions that could be
asked (which are unique to each person, in many cases), so my only
advice is try to relax, smile, and do your best, and not dwell on it
too much afterwards. I was really pretty worried, didn"t think I"d
conveyed enough good reasons for them to choose me, and didn"t think
I"d be accepted, yet I was. Many of the other JETs felt the same
way after their interviews. The feelings of doubt, worry, relief,
anxiety, and Damn, I forgot to mention X, Y, and Z! are extremely
common. So good luck to everyone, and just try to do your best!

Tom


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Matt [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=YkC-JfQJaFnctIa79fdWgB4OYQPbUb583fZdt2NiWq1IXc_1pMPOqG3Y8qHXD7Pydcm8DkexIzoM97fU6Q"]dynamisx@b... (ymsgr:sendIM?dynamisx) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 10:20
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Being a foreignor in Japan</font>
<tt>Konnichiwa mina-san!

Well, it"s been really quiet lately, so I thought I"d start a little
discussion. I"ve read in various places about the treatment of
foreignors in Japan. We all know that we are going on JET as cultural
ambassadors, and as much as we stare at the strange sights in Japan,
the Japanese will be staring at we strange foreignors just as much.

This is to be expected as we fumble around with our broken Japanese
and ignorance of customs and traditions. But one would expect that
the longer we stay, the less this happens, until with near native
language and cultural skills, we barely raise an eyebrow. Of course,
I"m speaking about long term gaijin here, but I think the theory
applies to us as well. I"m studying Japanese like crazy, hoping to
get more out of my time in Japan, and I want to know how worthwhile
it is as regards fitting in a bit, instead of just buying my
groceries.

I read the following article on The Big Diakon site:

http://www.bigdaikon.com/mystory-20030304.shtml

Now I know Big Diakon is pretty negative, as they try to provide
the other side of JET and Japan, but this article is well written,
and doesn"t seem to be the usual whining or horror stories.

The West is pretty multicultural now, and although racism and
negative nationalism certainly still exists, I don"t encounter it
frequently here in the UK. Of course it"s fun to bash the French and
the Americans over a pint of beer, but this is nothing more than good
natured traditions and rivalry.

As I understand it, this is not the case in Japan, which still shows
many effects from its history of isolationism. I"ve read enough
accounts of gaijin discrimination (whether covert or overt) to
believe that it happens, but I guess what I want to know really is:
How widespread this is kind of attitude, and it is possible to
overcome the nation barrier with at least some of the locals? Or will
we be the local Gaijin to everyone forever?

Matt

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
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<font size="-0">Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:44
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: How much $$ to bring?</font>
<tt>Hey, does anyone know how much money a ALT should bring with them
upon arrival. I have heard that the paychecks don"t start until
about two weeks after we arrive. I may need to start saving after
seeing how expensive everything is! Thanks for your help.

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
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<font size="-0">Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 7:48
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: My inteview in London</font>
<tt>Hey hey,

I had my interview in London yesterday too! Just thought I"d give an
account of my experiences:

I arrived 5 mins early (35 mins before interview time) but I had to
sit in the waiting room, twiddling my thumbs and panicking for a full
20 minutes. I"m sure things were just delayed, but it really didn"t
help with my nerves! Also, the security check when entering the
Embassy was unexpected, although understandable I know.

The tests; well I was gutted because I had taken the time to read
about various aspects of Japanese culture (which I didn"t at all
mind, in fact found very interesting) but little, if any, or what I
had learnt came up in the test (my version, I noticed was number 3 -
how many different ones are there I wonder?). I was frustrated that I
knew who the prime minister was and a little about him, but that I
hadn"t found out the obvious- his political party!

The organisation of the interviews seemed a bit lackadaisical and I
found myself alone in the room with a video about CIRs (I"m applying
for ALT). The ex-JET wasn"t really around to answer my questions and
I was rushed into the interview a few minutes late. Lovely friendly
interviewers, but the question about what would I teach to a group of
40 Japanese kinda threw me as I thought they might just concentrate
on my essay. I guess maybe they don"t ask the same questions to
everybody. I could"ve done with more time to really express myself
because I"m sure first appearances of me were as an overly nervous
and gratingly enthusiastic, sycophantic wreck. Oh well, so it goes! I
think I made a good impression with the ex-JET as I didn"t feel the
nerves when talking to him.

Anyway, hope this has been helpful even though I know the routine
isn"t the same in other countries.

Good luck people!
Laura

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
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<font size="-0">Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 7:56
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Chances of success</font>
<tt>Oooh, just thought I"d pop this anecdote in. I was chatting briefly
to an ex-JET at my interview in London yesterday and I asked him,
realistically speaking, what are my chances? He seemed reluctant to
give away the odds of gaining a place, but did say that those of us
(in the UK anyway) who have been called to interview have already
done very well and, wink wink nudge nudge, will already have done
much to impress the judges before we even get to interview. Although
I know this is not an explicit answer, I think it bodes well!

Laura

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
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<font size="-0">Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 10:11
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Being a foreignor in Japan</font>
<tt>In my experience in Japan, I felt that the concept of racism in Japan
was vastly over-emphasized. It all depends on the your mindset, I
think. I know there are a lot of people who get terribly offended
when a Japanese person compliments them on their chopstick use. If
you go in there with the idea that the Japanese are racist (which is a
racist thought in itself), then you will tend to get angered by
anything that separates you from them, even when they are trying to go
out of their way to help you. This anger is met with resentment,
which perpetuates the process. I went over there dealing with
everyone on an individual basis. By not making assumptions of whether
or not an action is racist, you can get to know people better and even
dissolve racism if there is one. I think most of what gets
interpreted as racism is just curiousity. Japan is still a country
which has seen relatively little of the west , especially in rural
areas. I guess, for me, the bottom line is that there will be as much
racism as each individual chooses to see/create.

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
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Jonathan [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=8ssSH1Q1k1cd3J7552xbWzHnCS2BYKyms7g-psQKIVzPtv0T3KA5pj6ZtJ0st4AoxNpGEPA2qVEMdrZxg0vsQo3ar-CER-pS"]hillhousejonathan@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?galapagosdrum) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 10:28
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: My inteview in London</font>
<tt>Hi Laura

Looks like we both had a similar experience at our interviews! But as
I was reassured after the interview, nerves are inevitable and I
think the interviewers are expecting this. Let"s hope that we both
make it to Japan, take care and have a great christmas!

Jonathan

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
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<font size="-0">Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 11:46
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: My inteview in London</font>
<tt>
Hey Jonathan,

Merry Christmas to you too! Let"s hope we meet in July!

Laura

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=fY_fPCJHt_eSjtgBFRLl-pu9nEOm5Nc42-m8FPoOct59GxPlFPRP_5aDwc4BfYRgaxmyDr4bi6R9MIutDRQ3), Jonathan hillhousejonathan@h...
wrote:
Hi Laura

Looks like we both had a similar experience at our interviews! But
as
I was reassured after the interview, nerves are inevitable and I
think the interviewers are expecting this. Let"s hope that we both
make it to Japan, take care and have a great christmas!

Jonathan

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
Peter Honigmann Jr [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=FokhqCxozK0b31Cjioky_cQcjzEDcAOQu83YvpJ8q3DeNo1UjuUJKD6XsEJ2rJqVAzvsw83aimLwvLQ9LckBOyaMr8Y"]foleyhonigmann@s... (ymsgr:sendIM?peter_honigmann) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Dec 20, 2003 6:47
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] Digest Number 23</font>
I wanted to respond to two questions posed recently.

First is how much money should we bring? My answer would be as much as you can. The reason is you will probably not know much about your living situation until you arrive in Japan. Some of the lucky few will receive correspondence from their counterparts or their offices or schools, but many know nothing until they finally arrive at their final destination.

What this means to you is that you do not know if there are already housing quarters established for you or will you be getting a new place, if there are furnishings, if you have to put up various deposits, etc. While many offices or schools you work for will be willing to loan you some money to cover some of these costs, others may not. So, I would say that you need probably at least enough money to get you through a month and that might be a couple thousand dollars.

As for being a foreigner in Japan. It is a strange situation, because I think they do react differently to foreigners, and specifically to people from the USA. They have a strange fascination with the US and they seem to think (mostly the younger ones anyway) that being from their is the "be all and end all" and living there must be so different from the Japan.

In my time over there I have learned that in general you will be treated quite well. Yes, the fact that you are gaijin will probably never wear off (no matter where you go children will point and say "Gaijin") even if you live there for 20 years and speak fluent Japanese. However, that really is not necessarily true for your group/company/school/neighborhood. I found that after you live in a certain area for a few months people become accustomed to you being around, and usually to the presence of foreigners, and you will often be treated much like other Japanese - no worse and no better. You can become an integral part of the place you work at and the place you live in a very short time, and that is a very nice feeling indeed. It really depends on you and how much you are willing to do to fit in.

On the other hand, it can also be nice to be the foreigner. As such people are always fascinated with you, they want to touch your hair, ask you lots of odd/strange/embarassing questions, and generally want to learn more about you. This in turn leads to meeting a lot of people you would not normally meet in your home country. The Japanese are very accepting of strangers and this works to the advantage of JETs.

I cannot tell you how many times strangers would strike up conversations with me on the train, at a store, on the street. This would usually end up in going to a museum or car trip somewhere, and it would be great fun. This sort of thing usually does not happen to most of us at home.

A long-winded answer I know, but I just want to say that in all the time I spent in Japan, being a foreigner never caused me any problems, and often led me to do more things and see more places than many of the Japanese do.

Short answer: If you act like a foreigner you will be treated like one, but if you act like the Japanese and are truly interested in the culture you will feel at home and be welcome.

Peter

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
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Matt [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=63AjIq4w5VfRxXtPOON7Jg-_oTE7lyucdXjtaNkwbnpQxdw4H9cysf3xFxQzz068cOEFP04tGb4-fifvof6M"]dynamisx@b... (ymsgr:sendIM?dynamisx) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Dec 20, 2003 10:32
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Digest Number 23</font>
<tt>Peter,

Thanks for your thoughts. The situation you"ve described is what I
have been hoping for, so I"m greatly relieved!

I don"t mind (even enjoy) putting forth an effort to breach the
cultural divide, after all that why I"m going to Japan in the first
place. I just didn"t want to end up banging my head against a brick
wall.

As for money, I"m only just out of Uni, so I"ll be happy if I can
clear my debts before I go!

Matt


--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=f35OS34i9cz001kXN90uMEyUTgTwpaBMhc6_JL5ciVZTwOsOhIZ7GF6CyMwis0rRKZU766zMzVAtVO1Qduo), Peter Honigmann Jr
foleyhonigmann@s... wrote:
I wanted to respond to two questions posed recently.

First is how much money should we bring? My answer would be as much
as you can. The reason is you will probably not know much about your
living situation until you arrive in Japan. Some of the lucky few
will receive correspondence from their counterparts or their offices
or schools, but many know nothing until they finally arrive at their
final destination.

What this means to you is that you do not know if there are already
housing quarters established for you or will you be getting a new
place, if there are furnishings, if you have to put up various
deposits, etc. While many offices or schools you work for will be
willing to loan you some money to cover some of these costs, others
may not. So, I would say that you need probably at least enough money
to get you through a month and that might be a couple thousand
dollars.

As for being a foreigner in Japan. It is a strange situation,
because I think they do react differently to foreigners, and
specifically to people from the USA. They have a strange fascination
with the US and they seem to think (mostly the younger ones anyway)
that being from their is the be all and end all and living there
must be so different from the Japan.

In my time over there I have learned that in general you will be
treated quite well. Yes, the fact that you are gaijin will probably
never wear off (no matter where you go children will point and
say Gaijin ) even if you live there for 20 years and speak fluent
Japanese. However, that really is not necessarily true for your
group/company/school/neighborhood. I found that after you live in a
certain area for a few months people become accustomed to you being
around, and usually to the presence of foreigners, and you will often
be treated much like other Japanese - no worse and no better. You can
become an integral part of the place you work at and the place you
live in a very short time, and that is a very nice feeling indeed. It
really depends on you and how much you are willing to do to fit in.

On the other hand, it can also be nice to be the foreigner. As such
people are always fascinated with you, they want to touch your hair,
ask you lots of odd/strange/embarassing questions, and generally want
to learn more about you. This in turn leads to meeting a lot of
people you would not normally meet in your home country. The Japanese
are very accepting of strangers and this works to the advantage of
JETs.

I cannot tell you how many times strangers would strike up
conversations with me on the train, at a store, on the street. This
would usually end up in going to a museum or car trip somewhere, and
it would be great fun. This sort of thing usually does not happen to
most of us at home.

A long-winded answer I know, but I just want to say that in all the
time I spent in Japan, being a foreigner never caused me any
problems, and often led me to do more things and see more places than
many of the Japanese do.

Short answer: If you act like a foreigner you will be treated like
one, but if you act like the Japanese and are truly interested in the
culture you will feel at home and be welcome.

Peter

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
erin_christine79 [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=djsXAP70bhXhwqZJtIzUmAkYMThz_7b0a-96nYiE1xYFZGdhzUZoVnI72xEn82i0hw29f2kaH7mcNVFSkSOvv5tP7i4"]erin_christine79@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?erin_christine79) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Dec 22, 2003 2:25
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: The $$ thing</font>
<tt>A big thanks to Peter for his wonderful response--especially about
the money sitation. I too am like the previous applicant and probably
will not have that much to bring with me. Is that something I will
want to bring up at the interview? Such as when they ask me if I have
any questions, should I ask the expectations for me financially prior
or just post arrival in Japan? Could this hinder me from not going? I
really (really!!) appreciate your help. Merry Christmas and Happy New
Year!

-Erin

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
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meanderw [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=daiSQdSV6h9WHsL8iHWZkHeW2O1oS2TYzAX9DheyfQgLokWKAeD9VyeKyVXEIxBSQ4kbSYpqmBB5M4k"]amandawolf@m... (ymsgr:sendIM?meanderw) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Dec 22, 2003 4:24
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: money</font>
<tt>In my experience, most JETs know something about their housing
situation before arriving in Japan. Almost all leaving JETs are
given their replacement"s contact information. I sent detailed
information and even photos to my replacement before he arrived. My
predecessor did the same for me. A few people don"t hear from their
predecessor or schools, but most do. In my ken, the prefectural
advisor and what we called regional reps - 2nd and 3rd year JETs
who have leadership roles in the ken, also contacted the new JETs.

I wouldn"t recommend that JET applicants stress about money at this
point. People that do have to pay housing deposits are offered loans
from someone at their school or board of ed if they can"t pay the
full amount right away. It"s not as though a new JET is going to be
sent home because he/she doesn"t have cash for an apartment deposit.
The JET salary is definitely adequate for living expenses and I
don"t think money will be brought up at the interview.

- Amanda, ALT 2001-2003

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foleyhonigmann@s... wrote:
I wanted to respond to two questions posed recently.

First is how much money should we bring? My answer would be as
much as you can. The reason is you will probably not know much about
your living situation until you arrive in Japan. Some of the lucky
few will receive correspondence from their counterparts or their
offices or schools, but many know nothing until they finally arrive
at their final destination.

What this means to you is that you do not know if there are
already housing quarters established for you or will you be getting
a new place, if there are furnishings, if you have to put up various
deposits, etc. While many offices or schools you work for will be
willing to loan you some money to cover some of these costs, others
may not. So, I would say that you need probably at least enough
money to get you through a month and that might be a couple thousand
dollars.

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
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<font size="-0">Date: Mon Dec 22, 2003 6:55
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: </font>
<tt>This group runs itself, however I just wanted everyone to know that
I"ll be away for 2 weeks on vacation. I don"t know if I"ll have any
internet access. So if you need the moderator for any reason, gaman
shite, ne (be patient!) I hope you all have a gorgeous holiday
season - be sure to relax!

-Justin

p.s. I"ve been thinking of setting up some interview rehearsal type
thing using the chat room. We could do practice interviews in real-
time. I"m sorry this idea is too late for some of the UK
applicants. If you don"t want to wait for me to get back, someone
can set up a time and decide upon a format, otherwise I"ll work on
it when I get back! My post script is longer than the original
message. Is that even legal?

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
Tom Miskey [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=UEdwqozN22csmGh9JQYsSjM-epIOojjh8fqJLkDf-Os5PKRcxMZ9z9GU2gDF5tDs_8nJoSiCbwXpLMc"]TomMiskey@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?sjsamurai007) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Dec 22, 2003 7:43
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: RE: [2004JET] Digest Number 25</font>



It"s true that it may take as much as 6 weeks before your 1st paycheck... that"s how long it took for me and the others in my city. I took $1000 and it was more than enpugh to get by, though. I would recommend taking at the very least $500, and if you can"t, talk to your school after you arrive about getting your paycheck for the first partial month you are there (they typically lump the 1-2 weeks into your 1st full month"s paycheck, which is why it can be a while till you get paid). Should that prove impossible, try your fellow JETs. One of the other new JETs in my town ran short of funds with 2 weeks left till payday. I loaned him $300 because I had more than I needed, and he paid me back when he got paid. (Be careful about doing this, but really, you know where the person will be living for the next year, you know they"ll be gainfully employed for that time, etc... still, you may want to get it in writing: "I owe Jane Smith $300 in return for a loan of that amount given to me. It will be repaid in full upon receipt of my first paycheck.")

I don"t think you need to bring it up at the interview. Between the host school, a loan from friends, and so on, you should be able to get by.</P>


Tom</P>



Message: 1
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 02:25:52 -0000
From: "erin_christine79" <ERIN>
Subject: The $$ thing

A big thanks to Peter for his wonderful response--especially about
the money sitation. I too am like the previous applicant and probably
will not have that much to bring with me. Is that something I will
want to bring up at the interview? Such as when they ask me if I have
any questions, should I ask the expectations for me financially prior
or just post arrival in Japan? Could this hinder me from not going? I
really (really!!) appreciate your help. Merry Christmas and Happy New
Year!

-Erin

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
Peter Honigmann Jr [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=vcEkjE3flbcJaN5TJzS-JSBdqUA6GufxP5BqP7NniQ7joYdLRNtM7dp6C-o_vMvbQpd4NTwWV81W0zEMEwe1QGDvKeQ"]foleyhonigmann@s... (ymsgr:sendIM?peter_honigmann) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Dec 22, 2003 6:56
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] Digest Number 25</font>

Erin:
I would say that the money question is certainly a fair one and should be asked of the panel. I would expect you will get a generalized answer like mine, since the interviewers do not know where you will be sent, who you will be working for directly, or anything else specific to you situation. As this is a real concern for most applicants, this question should be quite acceptable and should not influence the panels"s decisions.

I believe that the answers which most directly influence the panel"s decision not to recommend an applicant is based on a person"s inflexibility to change, unwillingness to try new things, lack of interest in learning the language and culture of Japan, and signs that the applicant is merely going to Japan for monetary gain. Avoiding answers that lead to these conclusions is important.

On the other hand, the panel should have far more up-to-date information than I, and should be able to give you some additional information that will be useful.

I do believe that in most situations you should will find that a teacher or office will be willing to lend you some money to make it until your first pay day. But I merely suggest that since you may not know what is going on until you get there - you need to be prepared. Even if you have a credit card from which you could take a short term cash advance (as short as possible since the interests rates are very high over a long period of time) that would probably help you out.

One more word of warning from someone who has experienced this - be very careful buying things from the person you are replacing. Apart from me I have heard the same story from many JETs. Before going over they hear from the JET they are replacing, and that person wants to sell them their belongings - tv, radio, other appliances and assorted stuff. My wife and I paid quite a bit for the stuff from our predecessor and when we arrived in Japan found that it was almost all junk which had to be replaced, and we felt cheated. Be very careful, and ask for pictures (digital pictures these days should be easy for many) or even real photos, so at least you have an idea of the quality of the things you are buying.

On the other hand, many others have bought things and ended up with very good purchases - since buying used things in Japan is difficult. Most Japanese like to throw things away which are in really good shape and replace it with new stuff. But re-sale stores and garage sales are almost non-existant. The next best thing is "Big garbage day" when people bring out the large items like tv"s and furniture to be hauled away. Many a JET have found some really good stuff being tossed away by simply looking through this stuff. This may not appeal to some, but to others it is like Xmas.

Hope this helps.

Peter

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
Christopher Ling [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=FI4yu6nm847G58EqQ7lGFHKaK7v19Mr09U3pvupclD1lspHtrZ1HLpRcx86FwAxKANFivJamoKCyK3X1eGqRLOje"]Shinikenshi@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?shinikenshi) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Dec 22, 2003 7:53
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] Digest Number 25</font>
<tt>I agree that one should be weary when purchasing goods from former JETs
(always ask for pictures! that is always hitsuyo !) but one nice thing
about Japan are the second hand shops that have sprouted up practically
everywhere in the country.

When I was studying in Sendai, at the International Dormitory where I stayed
for the semester, we would always get newspapers advertising big sales on
electronics and that sort of thing. Of the many nice things I picked up was
a 13 TV for 4000 which in my opinion was an absolute steal. It was
probably mostly a promotion for new electronics store, but its something to
always keep an eye out for.

Also, what my friends found useful during their stay was the junk left in
the garage by former study abroad students since often times if they cannot
sell their stuff off, they"ll leave it to the garbage men to deal with.
Somewhat illegal if I"m not mistaken since there is supposed to be a
recycler"s cost to remove electronic hardware, but I remember a good friend
of mine picked up a really nicely working 19 computer monitor and a 27 TV
(which unfortunately didn"t work, but we sure had a hell of a time trying to
fix it!)

Oh, and the secondhand shops! I would recommend checking out the website of
the biggest of the companies (now folks, don"t laugh too much), Hard-Off
(http://www.hardoff.co.jp). Ignoring the goofy name, most Hard Off stores
have a wide selection of electronics equipment (even guitars) or odds and
ends like...golf clubs and pianos. They also have spin off stores (like the
popular Book Off which also has stores in the US) and Garage Off (I
think...don"t remember the name) that deals with clothing and other bits.
Thanks to economic recession and more penny pinching in the country, things
like Hard off and even 100 shops have really taken off in Japan which makes
living in the country much much more inexpensive than ever before.

Thats my 1.97 cents on the matter. Happy Holidays folks. :)

Chris

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May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
Auntie McFrank [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=gN7i9jAgBUtdHbUtPR_ch6yXu13YuWpc-wEznvcipnp4c4u62sZDMN23iEPSQDoIsyY_nkgSzs_6to3KCKQ"]stenglei@o... (ymsgr:sendIM?auntiemcfrank) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Dec 22, 2003 11:47
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Greetings from a n00b!</font>
<tt>Hello, everyone!

I"m a college senior in my third semester of Japanese language study
and I"m starting to do research for going to Japan after I graduate.
I"m majoring in Anthropology and Graphic Design at a college in
Central New York.

JET is by all accounts a great opportunity and I"m set on applying
for the fall after I graduate. I"ve never been to Japan before and I
don"t foresee taking a trip there beforehand, so I"ll really be
leaping into the fray of culture shock. I"m confident that I"ll be
able to adapt and get a lot out of the experience, it"s just a matter
of getting myself out the door and on the plane.

My interest in Japan is less about its pop-culture exports (novel and
cool as they are - I"m a DDR nut) and more rooted in an
anthropological perspective. I"m sure I"ll spend a great deal of time
and money on candy and novel diversions, but my overall goal for
living there is to gain perspective through being a foreigner and
adapting to a very different culture.

I"m really glad to have found a diverse community of future, current
and former JET types, and I look forward to using this as a resource
as I prepare for the application process.

-Christine

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
tanweewee [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=l5W0f0ZDpj4DFJ_dpmFkKp6nIDRYsszTUzZooA-6Wjj1n-nBVx3fEM0Bp9KoxTZEmakaMsBjIJ-sjA"]tanweewee@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?tanweewee) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Dec 24, 2003 5:00
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Hi everyone...I"m new here.</font>
<tt>Hello all
Wow so glad that I found this group...knowing that so many pple are
interested in the JET & thanks for having the interview questions
database as it"s really a great help :P

I"m from Singapore, 27 this year and majored in Sociology & Japanese
Studies.Juz sent in my JET application last week and really pray hard
that I"ll be selected for the interview and be successful to be part
of JET.

All the best to everyone & Merry Christmas!

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
Matt [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=MkzGHf4OEjZqfJwNJqLEAn9W9EfxqWRkSoU6mL60HdLXh7T22BEl-r6HR8dKWcnx_hx7_Pb8JM1PQzM"]dynamisx@b... (ymsgr:sendIM?dynamisx) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Dec 24, 2003 9:19
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Going abroad before JET</font>
<tt>Merry Christmas everyone!!

I"m thinking of going to China/Taiwan/Korea and teach for a term
before I go on JET. I"d like to know whether I have to be physically
present in the UK any time before we actually leave. I guess I"ll
have to be back in time to submit my passport. I"ve seen a contract
that runs Feb to June, and was seriously thinking of applying. Any
thoughts or ideas?

Cheers,

Matt

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
RG Pascual rgpascual@c... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=RkxV_Grf7XhD1FvdrKZaIblDNGAGA3GwnNK14ZL7kxvLZEFT0lNZVhJ52V0RKtbZtkrApImkVwG5IOMnZ5k) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Dec 24, 2003 5:16
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] Going abroad before JET</font>
<tt>That sounds very cool. How did you find out about the other teaching
opportunities - what program did you decide to participate with?
(especially since a one term commitment seems so short!) Anyways, best
wishes - I"m sure there are many adventures awaiting out there in Asia.

Rich

On Wednesday, December 24, 2003, at 01:19 AM, Matt wrote:

Merry Christmas everyone!!

I"m thinking of going to China/Taiwan/Korea and teach for a term
before I go on JET. I"d like to know whether I have to be physically
present in the UK any time before we actually leave. I guess I"ll
have to be back in time to submit my passport. I"ve seen a contract
that runs Feb to June, and was seriously thinking of applying. Any
thoughts or ideas?

Cheers,

Matt




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2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
Jonathan [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=zT6_fnhGyMgGVr-au8KCv8AEJJLt-INERsaG55d_1uTi78i6YnIl8SvbD-xIGXUVOqXrsZIZmYIqATyrQPBWq7nTugGBU5Xs"]hillhousejonathan@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?galapagosdrum) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Dec 24, 2003 6:50
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Going abroad before JET</font>
<tt>Hi Matt

Yeah, that sounds like a great idea if you can work out the
arrangements. I read something somewhere that there was a 2 day pre-
orientation in July I think. Do you know for certain that you have
been selected for the JET programme? I was told that we had to wait
until April for the results. (4 months of nail biting in my case!)

Have a great christmas and I hope you manage to get to
China/Taiwan/Korea!

See ya

Jonathan



--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=4AM-XHV3LjI5tZ0mbejjF3V1eZrE9b8o-yLGJpGbjH76xNWNy-YjyivBBxlcjdl-3GYtHvDIVlAF7Y1E0sj7), Matt dynamisx@b... wrote:
Merry Christmas everyone!!

I"m thinking of going to China/Taiwan/Korea and teach for a term
before I go on JET. I"d like to know whether I have to be
physically
present in the UK any time before we actually leave. I guess I"ll
have to be back in time to submit my passport. I"ve seen a contract
that runs Feb to June, and was seriously thinking of applying. Any
thoughts or ideas?

Cheers,

Matt

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
Matt dynamisx@b... (ymsgr:sendIM?dynamisx) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Thu Dec 25, 2003 4:22
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Going abroad before JET</font>
<tt>Hi,

No, of course I don"t know if im going yet, but I"m living my life as
if I am going.

Anyway, cheers for the info. June is cutting it a bit fine, so I"m a
tad undecided. Damn, if only my job was more interesting, I"d just
sit tight and wait for the Summer...

As for the teaching I intend to do: it"s not with a program as such,
I will be applying directly to schools / agencies, based on online
job advetisments. It"s much less structured than JET, and I can work
out arrangements with the school I go to. The trade-off is that Visa
and living arrangements are a lot more complicated in many cases, and
there are plenty of cowboy operations waiting to make my life hell.

If you"re interested, I suggest going to [url]www.eslcafe.com and checking
out the forums and job adverts. Also, these jobs almost always mean
running the class solo (as opposed to assisting a native speaker),
which can be fun if you don"t speak the local language!

Well, maybe im just bored, and I"ll settle down and wait patiently.
Or perhaps my next post will be from Asia.

Anyway, Merry Christmas!

Matt


--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=XFfox4mWVWrnuewvTullsRjKzO7c4J6jqwJlmz4ZzjRODKLV7z3WqaMIoBu0PJqIceAvQWEgW7meFi84lnc), Jonathan hillhousejonathan@h...
wrote:
Hi Matt

Yeah, that sounds like a great idea if you can work out the
arrangements. I read something somewhere that there was a 2 day pre-
orientation in July I think. Do you know for certain that you have
been selected for the JET programme? I was told that we had to wait
until April for the results. (4 months of nail biting in my case!)

Have a great christmas and I hope you manage to get to
China/Taiwan/Korea!

See ya

Jonathan



--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=XFfox4mWVWrnuewvTullsRjKzO7c4J6jqwJlmz4ZzjRODKLV7z3WqaMIoBu0PJqIceAvQWEgW7meFi84lnc), Matt dynamisx@b... wrote:
Merry Christmas everyone!!

I"m thinking of going to China/Taiwan/Korea and teach for a term
before I go on JET. I"d like to know whether I have to be
physically
present in the UK any time before we actually leave. I guess I"ll
have to be back in time to submit my passport. I"ve seen a
contract
that runs Feb to June, and was seriously thinking of applying.
Any
thoughts or ideas?

Cheers,

Matt

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
alexswallow [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=g8ekekqAveCaA_LetH0CY_AGtfi_24faQKSMUTWamwJGAk4u6TyqUFtm6TkgffWyAajLiDfp71E1LkQhPaU"]alex_swallow@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?alexswallow) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Dec 27, 2003 4:57
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: thank you letter?</font>
<tt>hi all this is a great idea thanks for all the help and a happy new
year. Just something that I wanted to ask, I read on one website
that it is a good idea to send a thank you letter after interview!!!
This seems much too "teachers" pet" but what do you think?

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
pmkrenz [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=41UdQJSAqh_47tmReHICd65oe_wYt8RcbBgCdfvInqeopUzqFwlIQSX34XryJXlpZmT_Fyfueb11oQ"]pmkrenz@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?pmkrenz) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Dec 27, 2003 5:33
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: thank you letter?</font>
<tt>--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=Tx96NYg7NOrcKcRm193JDi4-wW_qrfwCqEIE1DPp-Ez35Qbd101GFfuW6tnNCdmjN2jGMbfkWHMafE5DZ6qaIg), alexswallow alex_swallow@h... wrote:
hi all this is a great idea thanks for all the help and a happy new
year. Just something that I wanted to ask, I read on one website
that it is a good idea to send a thank you letter after interview!!!
This seems much too "teachers" pet" but what do you think?


Standard practice after interviewing for any job you deem important.

Ganbatte! Buena suerte! Bon chance! Bona fortuna!

P

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
pmkrenz [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=vQk0Ggel3y2pnj1slZ2G3jpXH_qJUzhpjfYUGn9XOpsNl57CqjQcW_MSZmfcMRr7pCNdjLbVgA"]pmkrenz@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?pmkrenz) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Dec 27, 2003 6:03
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Cheers for the Old People</font>
<tt>Jeeeeeezama! Old? 27? Old? Wow! And to think that was eight years ago.
Fweef! I am glad to see, however, that I am not the only old person
out there. Having been a re-entry student, though, puts me in the
category of recent graduate. I was kinda curious as to how this might
play out in the interview stage (with the necessary assumption, of
course). Something along the lines of:

Interviewer: Wow! We see you"re pretty old there. Why on God"s green
earth would you want to apply for JET?

Me: Ummm...because it seems cool?

Int: Hmmm...O-kay. And how do you think you might handle being in the
program, being as old as you are?

Me: Hmmm...with a smattering of grace, dignity, and a sense of fun?

Int: I see. Does being old affect your ability to reason clearly and
make complete sentences?

Me: Uhhh...don"t know.

Int: Well, thank you for your time.


Paranoid? Sure. But it"s kept me alive so far.

I will look for all you old people at the interview! (And the young
ones too!)

Best,

PK



--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=dqBStvLGCLh4aadp3Nw8H5qeJUMfx-QbLVBC1HNtFKniZovvsqr950Qr6kQLDWxDsiIVAQIMiXHwbdQOU3jiGw), hannah_e_y hannah_e_y@y... wrote:
Konichiwa JET setters,

Has everyone in the group requested a particular region of Japan? I
felt that I didn"t have a good enough reason for applying for a
particular preficture (other than the fact I"d heard of it, or My
pen friend lives there Which sounds a little pathetic!) so I ticked
the don"t mind box!! A bit scary, but I wonder if I will end up
with one of the less popular areas...? Be good to have a poll on
that one too! What is the general opinion? Is it too late to
request an area after applying?

Also, How about finding out who going from the UK and who from the
USA. Id the departure date the same?

And how about those who have applied in previous years, but were
unsucessful. Maybe they can help the rest of us by sharing their
experiences?

Hey, I"m on a roll tonight!

Hannah X





--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=dqBStvLGCLh4aadp3Nw8H5qeJUMfx-QbLVBC1HNtFKniZovvsqr950Qr6kQLDWxDsiIVAQIMiXHwbdQOU3jiGw), shinikenshi Shinikenshi@h...
wrote:
Howdy to all the new people!

::bows out of respect for the older people:: ^^

I"m actually curious to know how many people here are the youngin"s
on the board. Its just kind of interesting noting the people that
joing the group who already have a profession whereas us kids are
thinking that perhaps JET is that expanse of time to think a bit
longer about what we want to do in life.

Or maybe thats just me. x_x

Totally unrelated note but I noticed a good bunch of people in the
database chose either Kagawa or Nara as choices. Would be
interesting
if we all end at either places I suppose!

::ducks off to tackle another exam::

-Chris

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=dqBStvLGCLh4aadp3Nw8H5qeJUMfx-QbLVBC1HNtFKniZovvsqr950Qr6kQLDWxDsiIVAQIMiXHwbdQOU3jiGw), feenixsf rich@s... wrote:
Howdy Hannah and other JET-setters,

A man can feel mighty old surrounded by all these young ones who
are
just graduating from college. Just so you know - energy and
motivation
spans across any age difference!

I"m 30 and considering a shift from my current professional
career.
It
spooks me at times, but the prospects seem quite bright and
exciting
all the same.

Be sure to post any good links or information that you find. We
currently have a database set up to track the admissions process
and
also one to store questions to prepare for the inevitable big
interview . Contribute what you can!

Rich

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=dqBStvLGCLh4aadp3Nw8H5qeJUMfx-QbLVBC1HNtFKniZovvsqr950Qr6kQLDWxDsiIVAQIMiXHwbdQOU3jiGw), hannah_e_y hannah_e_y@y...
wrote:
Hi there, I"ve just applied to the JET scheme, and found this
group
while trying to find out more about what I"m letting myself in
for!

I"m interested to know the ages of most applicants.

I am 27, and have been a primary school teacher in the UK for 6
years. Is anyone else as old as me and are there any folk who
are
leaving behind professional careers?

Am I mad?!

Hannah X

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
RG Pascual rgpascual@c... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=xXPCw1v4jFQqChegwHriifk4xQgJEUZQQYQqUYzVqcdfy9dKNswEDPx1Tcs_ijg6-lgxyEUtzk7y2unMflY) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Dec 27, 2003 7:44
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Thank you letter? Absolutely!</font>
<tt> From the professional world, a thank you note is always a good idea. It
isn"t teacher"s pet but a typical practice in the industry.
Surprisingly, very few practice it... they just spend that half hour or
hour sitting in that interview, then walk out never looking back. As an
interviewer, how would you feel about the investment of your time in
effort? Did that interviewee just walk out uninterested? Do they have
other options they"re looking at now? I have received compliments from
several job recruiters for using thank-you and follow-up notes. Believe
it or not, it has a significantly positive impact.

A thank you letter is also a way to show courtesy for the time spent.
These JET representatives likely aren"t paid for their effort, but even
then interviews are rarely part of the primary job responsibilities as
a JET.

Last of all, it"s a great way to stand out. Use it to reinforce certain
points about yourself that were made in the interview. (briefly, don"t
overdo it though) Give them a reason to remember you. Give them a
reason to WANT to remember you.

If it still feels uncomfortable, consider a follow up email (you did
get their meishi/business card, right?) and ask them some question
about the program or the job. That is very unobtrusive and again serves
the purpose of jogging their memory if the selection process is still
in progress.

Interview tip!! Always follow up!

Rich


On Saturday, December 27, 2003, at 08:57 AM, alexswallow wrote:

hi all this is a great idea thanks for all the help and a happy new
year. Just something that I wanted to ask, I read on one website
that it is a good idea to send a thank you letter after interview!!!
This seems much too "teachers" pet" but what do you think?




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2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
Hannah [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=ZkoarsLf8G1BvTX_scBXKfmUQ5D0JN9c_OjdGsUObarleF6zxVRWmspJLpXc8htaQFlNoi7N6T0r6RfBtQ"]hannah_e_y@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?hannah_e_y) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Dec 27, 2003 10:05
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Oldies!</font>
<tt>Thanks for that PK! Made me chuckle! Tee hee!

I don"t feel old! In fact I am constantly being told I look about 18-
20 and not 27 (my age) anyway, so I am not worried about standing out
as a fogie!!

I guess it tends to be younger folk or recent graduates that apply
for JET as they don"t have a chosen career yet. I wonder how many
crazies there are out there leaving profesional careers behind? I
will be taking a drop in salary and risking my career as a teacher (I
have read it is hard to get back into teaching after spending some
time out of the country [UK]) I think/hope that it is worth it for
the adventure as that is what I am seeking! Do any ex-JETs agree?

Are there many qualified teachers on the program?

As for the Thank you letter idea.... Sounds bizarre, but the more I
think about it, it sounds quite nice! Not sure if it would influence
any decisions tho...!

Happy New Year to all JET hopefulls!

Hannah X

PS Engrish.com is hilarious!


--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=RYr53Bh8FHDnabYT0dMfjQ3IejuZlnmGicn1XtFBOk_p97qD117rwyqo9jF9KxANi2xBlo9sikm-rN68KBf7GSA), pmkrenz pmkrenz@y... wrote:
Jeeeeeezama! Old? 27? Old? Wow! And to think that was eight years
ago.
Fweef! I am glad to see, however, that I am not the only old
person
out there. Having been a re-entry student, though, puts me in the
category of recent graduate. I was kinda curious as to how this
might
play out in the interview stage (with the necessary assumption, of
course). Something along the lines of:

Interviewer: Wow! We see you"re pretty old there. Why on God"s green
earth would you want to apply for JET?

Me: Ummm...because it seems cool?

Int: Hmmm...O-kay. And how do you think you might handle being in
the
program, being as old as you are?

Me: Hmmm...with a smattering of grace, dignity, and a sense of fun?

Int: I see. Does being old affect your ability to reason clearly and
make complete sentences?

Me: Uhhh...don"t know.

Int: Well, thank you for your time.


Paranoid? Sure. But it"s kept me alive so far.

I will look for all you old people at the interview! (And the young
ones too!)

Best,

PK



--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=RYr53Bh8FHDnabYT0dMfjQ3IejuZlnmGicn1XtFBOk_p97qD117rwyqo9jF9KxANi2xBlo9sikm-rN68KBf7GSA), hannah_e_y hannah_e_y@y...
wrote:
Konichiwa JET setters,

Has everyone in the group requested a particular region of
Japan? I
felt that I didn"t have a good enough reason for applying for a
particular preficture (other than the fact I"d heard of it,
or My
pen friend lives there Which sounds a little pathetic!) so I
ticked
the don"t mind box!! A bit scary, but I wonder if I will end
up
with one of the less popular areas...? Be good to have a poll on
that one too! What is the general opinion? Is it too late to
request an area after applying?

Also, How about finding out who going from the UK and who from
the
USA. Id the departure date the same?

And how about those who have applied in previous years, but were
unsucessful. Maybe they can help the rest of us by sharing their
experiences?

Hey, I"m on a roll tonight!

Hannah X





--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=RYr53Bh8FHDnabYT0dMfjQ3IejuZlnmGicn1XtFBOk_p97qD117rwyqo9jF9KxANi2xBlo9sikm-rN68KBf7GSA), shinikenshi Shinikenshi@h...
wrote:
Howdy to all the new people!

::bows out of respect for the older people:: ^^

I"m actually curious to know how many people here are the
youngin"s
on the board. Its just kind of interesting noting the people
that
joing the group who already have a profession whereas us kids
are
thinking that perhaps JET is that expanse of time to think a
bit
longer about what we want to do in life.

Or maybe thats just me. x_x

Totally unrelated note but I noticed a good bunch of people in
the
database chose either Kagawa or Nara as choices. Would be
interesting
if we all end at either places I suppose!

::ducks off to tackle another exam::

-Chris

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=RYr53Bh8FHDnabYT0dMfjQ3IejuZlnmGicn1XtFBOk_p97qD117rwyqo9jF9KxANi2xBlo9sikm-rN68KBf7GSA), feenixsf rich@s... wrote:
Howdy Hannah and other JET-setters,

A man can feel mighty old surrounded by all these young ones
who
are
just graduating from college. Just so you know - energy and
motivation
spans across any age difference!

I"m 30 and considering a shift from my current professional
career.
It
spooks me at times, but the prospects seem quite bright and
exciting
all the same.

Be sure to post any good links or information that you find.
We
currently have a database set up to track the admissions
process
and
also one to store questions to prepare for the
inevitable big
interview . Contribute what you can!

Rich

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=RYr53Bh8FHDnabYT0dMfjQ3IejuZlnmGicn1XtFBOk_p97qD117rwyqo9jF9KxANi2xBlo9sikm-rN68KBf7GSA), hannah_e_y
hannah_e_y@y...
wrote:
Hi there, I"ve just applied to the JET scheme, and found
this
group
while trying to find out more about what I"m letting myself
in
for!

I"m interested to know the ages of most applicants.

I am 27, and have been a primary school teacher in the UK
for 6
years. Is anyone else as old as me and are there any folk
who
are
leaving behind professional careers?

Am I mad?!

Hannah X

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
hkmercredi [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=XrwHS3hgh5QYhYNcuvJaPNJXX1Qec4rTmfXjFa6KOTnNxVcnnuJctkoM0iIEENYI99WgWEAqNQkaOcv1"]hkmercredi@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?hkmercredi) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sun Dec 28, 2003 5:39
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Hello and introduction</font>
<tt>Hi all, I ran across an note about this group and thought I"d join to
see what everyone else is going through. I"m a senior at a small
liberal arts college in upstate NY (how upstate? Canada"s about 20
min away). My majors are Religious Studies and History combined with
Asian Studies. I applied to JET this November and am hoping to go
there this summer!! My first choice was Hokkaido (yeah, weird, I
know) followed by Kyoto and Nara. I was in Japan this summer for a
month attending Mukogawa Women"s University in Nishinomiya (it"s by
Kobe, near Osaka).


Anyway, I"m not quite sure what else to say, really. I"m worried
about my chances of getting into JET, same as at least most of you
out there. I was wondering, are there other programs people are
looking at for teaching in Japan, China or Korea? I"ve asked around
at my college, and the best advice I"ve gotten is not to go through
NOVA (my advisor went through NOVA and didn"t like their
organization, although he says it could have changed since then).
I"ve also looked through Earlham"s program and have considered other
possibilities.

Anyway, I"m really glad I came across this group! Talk to you all
later!
-Abby

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
tanweewee [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=AdgNocWOULUnCmiyLcRo88jmMChiOgcF7h5VRsUOr9_w4EoBwwRYY_-VBFdWIa_dFniMHOpWL_lNPA3L_N4"]tanweewee@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?tanweewee) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sun Dec 28, 2003 5:57
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Hello...Anyone here from Singapore?</font>
<tt>HiHi

Hmmm...seems like none (or only a few???) of the members here are
from Asia. Really hope to know some participants from Singapore.
It"ll be nice to know people from your own country who r applying
for JET...able to share info/experiences on this programme.

I"ve applied for JET 3 yrs ago, right after graduation from
University but didn"t make it thru the interview. Hope that I"ll be
successful this year.

Are the interview procedures the same across all countries? I don"t
remember taking the written paper before the face-to-face interview.
Maybe this written paper is only included in recent years...anyone
can enlighten me???

Best Wishes & Happy New Year :P

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
yoshiko nawa [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=NpC7pIIbal65qrEaR7nmmThZBkB9VTTKQTlQ08wu8bZXNHRWf7HBXtXP7pmTXXbbq2dZD4pjiMBfpEYfNA"]minhchanh_98@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?MinhChanh_98) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sun Dec 28, 2003 6:53
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] Oldies!</font>
<tt>Man, all you people talking about being old and still
in your 20"s. I am 32 and just got laid off from
Hewlett-Packard. I have always wanted to apply to the
Jet program and now that I am an unemployed bum I
finally get the chance :) Anyway, I am really nervous
about the interview and I am not sure if I will even
get one. Good luck to all of you and thanks for all
the advice.

Phil from Colorado

--- Hannah hannah_e_y@y... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=cdsRl7J-jYvDRoX3pJfql2Lbi1QNuP3FU6GybJYJgTreaK-VEUjwxWQJs8QCKDq3LMQNPdfSU2JqKH6j) wrote:
Thanks for that PK! Made me chuckle! Tee hee!

I don"t feel old! In fact I am constantly being
told I look about 18-
20 and not 27 (my age) anyway, so I am not worried
about standing out
as a fogie!!

I guess it tends to be younger folk or recent
graduates that apply
for JET as they don"t have a chosen career yet. I
wonder how many
crazies there are out there leaving profesional
careers behind? I
will be taking a drop in salary and risking my
career as a teacher (I
have read it is hard to get back into teaching after
spending some
time out of the country [UK]) I think/hope that it
is worth it for
the adventure as that is what I am seeking! Do any
ex-JETs agree?

Are there many qualified teachers on the program?

As for the Thank you letter idea.... Sounds
bizarre, but the more I
think about it, it sounds quite nice! Not sure if
it would influence
any decisions tho...!

Happy New Year to all JET hopefulls!

Hannah X

PS Engrish.com is hilarious!


--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=uR4NMqfQuStyeuNAZAzx4RUcko3P7ZNyEH_H6QLHK0C6tV9ANbLlejmtc-bIsdS0kliL2XQM5SVcKhlQW4w), pmkrenz
pmkrenz@y... wrote:
Jeeeeeezama! Old? 27? Old? Wow! And to think that
was eight years
ago.
Fweef! I am glad to see, however, that I am not
the only old
person
out there. Having been a re-entry student, though,
puts me in the
category of recent graduate. I was kinda curious
as to how this
might
play out in the interview stage (with the
necessary assumption, of
course). Something along the lines of:

Interviewer: Wow! We see you"re pretty old there.
Why on God"s green
earth would you want to apply for JET?

Me: Ummm...because it seems cool?

Int: Hmmm...O-kay. And how do you think you might
handle being in
the
program, being as old as you are?

Me: Hmmm...with a smattering of grace, dignity,
and a sense of fun?

Int: I see. Does being old affect your ability to
reason clearly and
make complete sentences?

Me: Uhhh...don"t know.

Int: Well, thank you for your time.


Paranoid? Sure. But it"s kept me alive so far.

I will look for all you old people at the
interview! (And the young
ones too!)

Best,

PK



--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=uR4NMqfQuStyeuNAZAzx4RUcko3P7ZNyEH_H6QLHK0C6tV9ANbLlejmtc-bIsdS0kliL2XQM5SVcKhlQW4w), hannah_e_y
hannah_e_y@y...
wrote:
Konichiwa JET setters,

Has everyone in the group requested a particular
region of
Japan? I
felt that I didn"t have a good enough reason for
applying for a
particular preficture (other than the fact I"d
heard of it,
or My
pen friend lives there Which sounds a little
pathetic!) so I
ticked
the don"t mind box!! A bit scary, but I
wonder if I will end
up
with one of the less popular areas...? Be good
to have a poll on
that one too! What is the general opinion? Is
it too late to
request an area after applying?

Also, How about finding out who going from the
UK and who from
the
USA. Id the departure date the same?

And how about those who have applied in previous
years, but were
unsucessful. Maybe they can help the rest of us
by sharing their
experiences?

Hey, I"m on a roll tonight!

Hannah X





--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=uR4NMqfQuStyeuNAZAzx4RUcko3P7ZNyEH_H6QLHK0C6tV9ANbLlejmtc-bIsdS0kliL2XQM5SVcKhlQW4w), shinikenshi
Shinikenshi@h...
wrote:
Howdy to all the new people!

::bows out of respect for the older people::
^^

I"m actually curious to know how many people
here are the
youngin"s
on the board. Its just kind of interesting
noting the people
that
joing the group who already have a profession
whereas us kids
are
thinking that perhaps JET is that expanse of
time to think a
bit
longer about what we want to do in life.

Or maybe thats just me. x_x

Totally unrelated note but I noticed a good
bunch of people in
the
database chose either Kagawa or Nara as
choices. Would be
interesting
if we all end at either places I suppose!

::ducks off to tackle another exam::

-Chris

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=uR4NMqfQuStyeuNAZAzx4RUcko3P7ZNyEH_H6QLHK0C6tV9ANbLlejmtc-bIsdS0kliL2XQM5SVcKhlQW4w), feenixsf
rich@s... wrote:
Howdy Hannah and other JET-setters,

A man can feel mighty old surrounded by all
these young ones
who
are
just graduating from college. Just so you
know - energy and
motivation
spans across any age difference!

I"m 30 and considering a shift from my
current professional
career.
It
spooks me at times, but the prospects seem
quite bright and
exciting
all the same.

Be sure to post any good links or
information that you find.
We
currently have a database set up to track
the admissions
process
and
also one to store questions to prepare for
the

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2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
Amanda Wolfman [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=d_BTIsHyAsnqW4e88kfIpozxtTMJ5qPud4czcDBBb2U-TywgFFyWo_BvYvxxd-hJ4y2AZsfLKKBJjWo"]amandawolf@m... (ymsgr:sendIM?meanderw) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sun Dec 28, 2003 4:49
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: thank you letter?</font>
<tt>When I applied for JET, I didn"t send a thank you letter or any sort of follow
up. While I do follow up in regards to job interviews, I don"t think it"s needed
with the JET process. You"re not going to speed things up by sending thank you
or follow up. Also the people who I interviewed with (2 JET alums and a Japanese
national from the consulate) didn"t give me contact info. I see the JET
application process as fairly straight forward - if they like your application,
you"ll get an interview... if they like your interview, you"ll become a JET
participant... I don"t think you"re going to be able to finesse your way out of
a bad interview with a thank you note. I think the interviewers are really
looking at your people skills - the way you communicate, the way you react in
the interview which can be a stressful situation, the way you answer potentially
tough questions, etc.
Good luck with your interviews :-)
Amanda, ALT 2001-2003

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
redivider2003 [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=Fk-vSsKDnQewAWPBtpTgcgLJCfC1AecIf8GTcEkz69eEKu_d6RDgipjO2idyCJsd9WjW23A2RiZWz90eUPJg7Q"]redivider2003@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?redivider2003) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sun Dec 28, 2003 5:26
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: We charge premium prices</font>
<tt>Dear All,

Just a short introduction to myself. I am Luke. 22, male, British. I
have applied for the 2004 round, completed my interview, but it was
in november (London) and so unfortunately I was unable to take full
advantage of this user_group (sound idea, by the way). I have
applied for Kyoto city, but know the odds are stacked against. The
interview itself was okay, the written tests a little strange,
requesting answers to cultural trivia most will have forgotten, ex-
jet didn"t reveal he was ex-jet until my test was complete so (be
warned) there isn"t much scope to ask questions - good luck to those
who are in line next (my heart goes out to you mr. roy).

Luke

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
Bronwen Veale [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=tGAF5otSt6ycutFKv4q3_Jpa8MiQstAeXwqS6tj9qAvUBffWg7DIxq-N11Wv0wSV2IYMm7OYgOKqHOqf"]vealeb@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?bron_v) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Dec 29, 2003 2:16
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] thank you letter?</font>
<TT>When I applied for JET, I didn"t send a thank you letter or any sort of follow up. While I do follow up in regards to job interviews, I don"t think it"s needed with the JET process. You"re not going to speed things up by sending thank you or follow up. Also the people who I interviewed with (2 JET alums and a Japanese national from the consulate) didn"t give me contact info. I see the JET application process as fairly straight forward - if they like your application, you"ll get an interview... if they like your interview, you"ll become a JET participant... I don"t think you"re going to be able to finesse your way out of a bad interview with a thank you note. I think the interviewers are really looking at your people skills - the way you communicate, the way you react in the interview which can be a stressful situation, the way you answer potentially tough questions, etc.
Good luck with your interviews :-)
Amanda, ALT 2001-2003<BR

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
<a href="ymsgr:sendIM?michelleminetola">http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/online.gif
</a>
Michelle Minetola michelleminetola@y... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=B91JYRiX6jnbQrryLaw1lwQDnpl36rMje8rWzfcKxKZMC-2-EB5XvdWqxJlUAaw9o40it886g2-jHr7p8BTOWLuGvw) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Dec 29, 2003 2:59
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Hi from New York!</font>
<tt>Hello,

Just an intro post. My name is Michelle and I, too, have applied
for JET 2004-05. After reading tons of opinions on the JET Program
and the interview process, however, I am paranoid about my chances!
I am not newly out of college (graduated in 1999 with a degree in
Poli Sci), and have not yet studied the language. I do, however,
have a sincere interest in Japanese culture and the desire to learn,
based on the knowledge I have acquired thus far! I have a 1 year
old daughter, who is fantastic, and would benefit greatly from an
expansion of cultural horizons (as would we all!).
I am concerned because I don"t feel that my application reads well.
I didn"t have tons of awards and honors to list . . . however, I do
have quite a bit of international experience, including a completed
1 year English teaching contract in Santiago, Chile. I think I
conveyed my expectations and qualifications fairly well in the
essay, but, alas, I won"t know for a while!
Anyone else out there feeling as nervous as I am? I"m sure I"m not
alone!!! And anyone else hoping to interview in New York?

Good luck everyone!!!

-Michelle

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
Abigail MacBain [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=YsFtKhc48ZMH-W74pGEqa_vUM3GwVwINxzJ4WW7nVS8rpDBRnd0QVXm29YhLPQj3LyQzRYy0HIxnsI7K3w"]hkmercredi@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?hkmercredi) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Dec 29, 2003 3:15
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] Hi from New York!</font>
<TT>Hello,

Just an intro post. My name is Michelle and I, too, have applied
for JET 2004-05. After reading tons of opinions on the JET Program
and the interview process, however, I am paranoid about my chances!
I am not newly out of college (graduated in 1999 with a degree in
Poli Sci), and have not yet studied the language. I do, however,
have a sincere interest in Japanese culture and the desire to learn,
based on the knowledge I have acquired thus far! I have a 1 year
old daughter, who is fantastic, and would benefit greatly from an
expansion of cultural horizons (as would we all!).
I am concerned because I don"t feel that my application reads well.
I didn"t have tons of awards and honors to list . . . however, I do
have quite a bit of international experience, including a completed
1
year English teaching contract in Santiago, Chile. I think I
conveyed my expectations and qualifications fairly well in the
essay, but, alas, I won"t know for a while!
Anyone else out there feeling as nervous as I am? I"m sure I"m not
alone!!! And anyone else hoping to interview in New York?

Good luck everyone!!!

-Michelle
<BR

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
Peter Honigmann Jr [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=Kbc6P8j0dmH8kk_IQQEM92E0v-RFUz5xKgYUnZX9l88Q0GPrf3qkWnzhR8R4DydgzwuQwWEyoDrPEOwNBiouDbRW"]foleyhonigmann@s... (ymsgr:sendIM?peter_honigmann) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Dec 29, 2003 5:31
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Thank you letters</font>

</td></tr>
<tr valign="top" align="left"><td width="100%" valign="top" align="left">
<DIV>Just my two cents on the suggestion of "thank you" letters after interviews. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>As a previous applicant and one-time interviewer, I would say that while the sentiment might be appreciated, they are a waste of time. The reason being that after all the applicants have left the interviewers have tallied their scores and the matter is at an end as far as they are concerned. Basically the interviewers are making a decision during the interview and once it is over a thank you note will be of no use. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Also, I would just note that being an interviewer is fun. I mean how often do you get to be on the otherside of the table, putting the screws to the applicant. The interviewers are usually provided with a meal and sometimes an honorarium, so it is not a thankless task. And the main reason most people want to participate as an interviewer is because it helps keep them involved in JET. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Finally, I am not aware of any interviewer who would really want to give out his/her information to the applicants, especially since he/she may receive other types of mail if the applicant is not accepted...</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Peter</DIV>

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
<a href="ymsgr:sendIM?siberakh1">http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/online.gif
</a>
siberakh1 sifertb@h... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=1lT2_vjq82v9VSjRvlncNZrHQQj3nvH7aKrs429dSLb1DPgk7pfQF1w5AVx4AjWY0qhQwUumWr9oscRBtw) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Tue Dec 30, 2003 5:47
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: confirmation</font>
<tt>Has anyone else NOT received a confirmation letter/card? I sent mine
out air mail overnight so they should have gotten it by the
deadline. It just makes me nervous, that"s all since it"s been
almost a month...

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
hazaaaar [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=O-o8pyw3034wM6mkXi0J0irEQPlHqgZ246NqV7eIhGBX_QXkphJ5M1XYDSjXBfcL5-OPuBmR7ytqQrGuN6jy"]hazaaaar@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?hazaaaar) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Tue Dec 30, 2003 6:07
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: just a few questions...</font>
<tt>Firstly i"d like to say Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year to all
hope all is peachy for you, and congrats on making this a very good
group :D

well i missed the "JET" sign up time so i"m currently seeking
alternative routes towards teaching english in japan, companies like
GEOS & NOVA e.t.c anyone have any advice or information on
these "other" companies or organisations i would be most greatful
-cheers

also i"m planning on taking part in a martial art when i"m over there
unsure as to what yet but once again any suggestions would be great

-thanks all!

(incidently i"m currently reading a book called "angry white
pyjamas" by -Robert Twigger which is a true story/autobiography of a
person teaching english in japan, i"m only half way but it"s a great
book, very insightfuli suggest you look it up)

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
feenixsf [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=YxYaPbZ_JBAjuPPnWZ4sS-2B10OIEH-SgxvbeCTqHGgnXPBiZcRIXF-zRV0_8YFWQtMFdGJ81X0TV9OG"]richp@c... (ymsgr:sendIM?feenixsf) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Tue Dec 30, 2003 7:18
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: confirmation</font>
<tt>Same here. I sent mine directly via FedEX Priority. The application
arrived The morning of the due date and was confirmed through FedEx.
From the 2004JET database, most people who submitted their apps
earlier got a confirmation no more than a week later. I spotted
another applicant or two who submitted theirs on the due date and
also have not received a confirmation letter. I just find it odd that
JET did not drop a confirmation note in the mail using the SASE I
provided. I suppose it"s something more to add to the nerves but I"m
going to try not to worry about it since it"s now someting beyond my
control. Hang in there!

Rich

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=_df8PSQ1MxOl7alzV7t7MfWfbsOTp9s6sZqnp9Plk0450i_qdZ51z_0QQDrJj01BanwOU3q0A7z6PBGHnE7gkhi3), siberakh1 sifertb@h... wrote:
Has anyone else NOT received a confirmation letter/card? I sent
mine
out air mail overnight so they should have gotten it by the
deadline. It just makes me nervous, that"s all since it"s been
almost a month...

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
Hannah [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=8rjLAJwR9DEkRqTnNsKHx1VBmMe-WJB_Hm91cAiOgY5e3jwVnGaciYkT9EEu04_nPT-cwsMYAANoEdNoQFI"]hannah_e_y@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?hannah_e_y) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Tue Dec 30, 2003 11:07
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: confirmation</font>
<tt>Hi,

Did you enclose a stamped, self addressed postcard or envelope in
your application pack?

I don"t know if you applied to the UK JET desk, but I took my
aplication in by hand and phoned two days later to check that it had
reached the right people. They were able to confirm that they had
received my application AND they sent the self addressed postcard
back to me, which I had enclosed with my application pack. (This is
just to confirm they have received your pack, not to set an interview
date.)


I don"t recommend that everyone bombards the JET desk with queries as
they are very busy, but if you still haven"t received your postcard,
it might be worth a quick call, or email. They are very helpful and
understanding and I"m sure they wouldn"t mind you calling.

I hope this is helpful to you.

Hannah X



--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=FwUD-SvrlB2zBZsrIz8CdlX2fEiNbYiShosSkKZIg3ekzy6oETf6HJRFMYZfyGOnU8JoxzgQ3HFTU1Y37UVR), siberakh1 sifertb@h... wrote:
Has anyone else NOT received a confirmation letter/card? I sent
mine
out air mail overnight so they should have gotten it by the
deadline. It just makes me nervous, that"s all since it"s been
almost a month...

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
shouzekialberto [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=FNBrSrWe9exy9iFsthjZub6QzrDHksKsdTMtXsAuq1Jjwn6gGnAKvgER2VABDSVWs8Yix8N2uz2CVwHVLaow7uYR"]shouzekialberto@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?shouzekialberto) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Dec 31, 2003 5:24
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Hi!</font>
<tt>Hello, I actually joined a few weeks ago but haven"t been able to
post until now. My name is Mark, and I"m a senior Asian Studies
major at the University of Colorado at Boulder. I got my
confirmation letter stating that they"ve recieved my application a
couple of weeks ago. I"m a bit nervous about this, but I"m
optimistic as well! So far I"ve seen a lot of great people and
information on this board and I hope to be a more active contributor!

Cheers!

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
shouzekialberto [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=sFXupE2Z-oetBOxPM9fegZ3hYfljEqeBuj01O8g2zrXmc8HI2XFfKif1Y0SdrAFHCm98B_7B1Ja0eaNCtFaz1No"]shouzekialberto@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?shouzekialberto) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Dec 31, 2003 6:16
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Just out of curiosity...</font>
<tt>...how many people on this board are from Colorado (or near Colorado)?

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
<a href="ymsgr:sendIM?siberakh1">http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/online.gif
</a>
siberakh1 sifertb@h... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=FrY7Hp2IfPBLIJde93TLKbuNXOjj835Is3_n6ewLw1t3omC5R_CWvy9P_7vQkEYm6xVaWECbg0Aqce_H) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Dec 31, 2003 3:43
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: confirmation</font>
<tt>Yup... I included a SASE with my address in the return spot as well,
just so it wouldn"t find a way of getting lost. It would have gotten
there on the deadline and being several states (US) away, hand
delivery wasn"t an option. It may be because it was the last day or
so and they got bombarded with applications and just never got all
the cards out. I"ll probably give a quick call and see if they
received it.

--Brianne

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:49
From:
[/url]
Christopher Ling [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=OwR04X6YqFwFLqZlB9B4zEO_eavBNjs9bECMn1aaVc9WilG0h2jaNXMOFk3LhM2MPGhJBkFNf_HBMTYlsr4"]Shinikenshi@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?shinikenshi) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Dec 31, 2003 5:40
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: RE: [2004JET] Just out of curiosity...</font>
<tt> ...how many people on this board are from Colorado (or near Colorado)?

I"m about 3 states (California) away. I guess that doesn"t really count. ^^

Chris

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2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
Christopher Amis [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=HMFRdQovOSynxpzr5nv0jHF-mLSlzgd5JktHseYXVBx6hRn8EnPNEK2XggpR5kmobz2XZmJbZLxe"]amiscw@c... (ymsgr:sendIM?crookboo) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Dec 31, 2003 4:12
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] Digest Number 32</font>
<tt>I haven"t gotten mine yet either and I sent in my application a month and a
half ago. It"s kind of comforting to know that someone else hasn"t gotten
theirs back yet because we might still have a chance, I had pretty much
given up all hope, even though nothing wrong *should* have happened. The
confirmation postcard is for that they recieved it, not your eligibility.

Where did you send it? I"m Canadian, so mine went to Ottawa. Anyone who sent
to Ottawa get a confirmation back yet?

Chris


Has anyone else NOT received a confirmation letter/card? I sent mine
out air mail overnight so they should have gotten it by the
deadline. It just makes me nervous, that"s all since it"s been
almost a month...

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
feenixsf [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=bZjdEv1-3XCyzDeqhnDwrYhZOUDmyQUyhiMwk4fMREdxlbHnTpA-IdSHgOb8AInRsIuO94o93LE6WZQ"]richp@c... (ymsgr:sendIM?feenixsf) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Dec 31, 2003 11:20
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: confirmation</font>
<tt>I re-read the information at the Japanese Embassy site:

Applications will be screened initially at the Embassy during
December 2003 and January 2004. All applicants will be notified by
the end of January or early February regarding the status of their
application. Do not call the Embassy to check on the status of your
application.

Calling may not be a good idea as it is discouraged in the supporting
documentation.

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=NDj1wSyl5aAt0-vXO3z59jyjiKyWHQEwJ44PwY9EQxWdAWDTDr2ZVoIL6DKR26h8a_4aRXhEt3Y9Dw1Jiu2_Fwub), siberakh1 sifertb@h... wrote:
Yup... I included a SASE with my address in the return spot as
well,
just so it wouldn"t find a way of getting lost. It would have
gotten
there on the deadline and being several states (US) away, hand
delivery wasn"t an option. It may be because it was the last day
or
so and they got bombarded with applications and just never got all
the cards out. I"ll probably give a quick call and see if they
received it.

--Brianne

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
Thomas, Nicholas D [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=tUTEn6YzP4noDRxeywR8pftZ5a2ppUD9oZMUyCwPg0FapbUXu7a7Z9Qbc9P2pmicpsSmUPzyU8oaHswDiAcgAjrqxY1g4iw"]nicholas.thomas@i... (ymsgr:sendIM?nikku_tomasu) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Thu Jan 1, 2004 3:01
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: RE: [2004JET] Re: confirmation</font>
<tt>I disagree... It seems to me that this passage in the documentation is referring
to people who have already recieved their confirmation postcard phoning up to
check do i have an interview yet?

Phoning up to check if your application has been received at all, in the absence
of having received your postcard, is entirely different.

For the record, i delivered my application bu hand to the Japanese embassy in
London, and i received my postcard

-----Original Message-----
From: feenixsf [mailto:richp@c... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=jmPB3WEnMqBl-fvyhqUrpTpItw5heEAPsWnYpcA9u5m4b7jyu-DWdMaaNQp_dqii7B8dslUxS03orBiW6w)]
Sent: Wed 31/12/2003 23:20
To: 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=Jn-G7Ky6unB8H6F29DiILsmg7WwfYjZSFfU_WtJYnIC017dBXlJsskDOiiqnewBoKtbOfHRPAjzk4N8I0mw)
Cc:
Subject: [2004JET] Re: confirmation



I re-read the information at the Japanese Embassy site:

Applications will be screened initially at the Embassy during
December 2003 and January 2004. All applicants will be notified by
the end of January or early February regarding the status of their
application. Do not call the Embassy to check on the status of your
application.

Calling may not be a good idea as it is discouraged in the supporting
documentation.

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=Jn-G7Ky6unB8H6F29DiILsmg7WwfYjZSFfU_WtJYnIC017dBXlJsskDOiiqnewBoKtbOfHRPAjzk4N8I0mw), siberakh1 sifertb@h... wrote:
Yup... I included a SASE with my address in the return spot as
well,
just so it wouldn"t find a way of getting lost. It would have
gotten
there on the deadline and being several states (US) away, hand
delivery wasn"t an option. It may be because it was the last day
or
so and they got bombarded with applications and just never got all
the cards out. I"ll probably give a quick call and see if they
received it.

--Brianne




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2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
Thomas, Nicholas D [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=ntK2xnFojQO-jVCDJ0ikmQfvGvHCsXI7SPnQVoztAz2EKMaa9xJl_kNiNtJyQ0N1GKfwrkbocI9AnlsrIQ9wjjMR-PV6AV1Yqw"]nicholas.thomas@i... (ymsgr:sendIM?nikku_tomasu) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Thu Jan 1, 2004 3:07
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: RE: [2004JET] Re: confirmation</font>
<tt>



I disagree... It seems to me that this passage in the documentation is
referring to people who have already recieved their confirmation postcard
phoning up to check do i have an interview yet?

Phoning up to check if your application has been received at all, in the
absence of having received your postcard, is entirely different.

For the record, i delivered my application by hand to the Japanese embassy in
London, and i received my postcard 2 days later. That was a little over a month
ago, and i am yet to hear anything else back from them.

If you have been waiting more than 3 weeks for your postcard, i would
definately give them a call. Having said that, if it turns out that they have
not received it, i don"t think there is anything you can do. I doubt they would
accept another copy of the application at this stage - Still, it won"t hurt to
ask.

Good luck

Nik

-----Original Message-----
From: feenixsf [mailto:richp@c... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=27n0kf6KJqcRbPFOiZa9xj9Z3Av0wKbc7QpNMv2igX3XWANK6_DuTWB7-AE01zo7s1KSos3MPglCOVH_H7s)]
Sent: Wed 31/12/2003 23:20
To: 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=riVkqTIqr4cDnfIl1jHrG6Pmpo1u5ksoOwhx-PMp1gwx6yXeFBZz6Pzz4cmOBYYOZLwx64y2rB7b7BAOXKvl)
Cc:
Subject: [2004JET] Re: confirmation



I re-read the information at the Japanese Embassy site:

Applications will be screened initially at the Embassy during
December 2003 and January 2004. All applicants will be notified by
the end of January or early February regarding the status of their
application. Do not call the Embassy to check on the status of your
application.

Calling may not be a good idea as it is discouraged in the supporting
documentation.

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=riVkqTIqr4cDnfIl1jHrG6Pmpo1u5ksoOwhx-PMp1gwx6yXeFBZz6Pzz4cmOBYYOZLwx64y2rB7b7BAOXKvl), siberakh1 sifertb@h... wrote:
Yup... I included a SASE with my address in the return spot as
well,
just so it wouldn"t find a way of getting lost. It would have
gotten
there on the deadline and being several states (US) away, hand
delivery wasn"t an option. It may be because it was the last day
or
so and they got bombarded with applications and just never got all
the cards out. I"ll probably give a quick call and see if they
received it.

--Brianne




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2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
RG Pascual rgpascual@c... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=UTwiWQCKZrCG85nYYPmtI_-Gpec8Sz9rK379CUbEQuvyHH8_XI9u4hW3hAwF8ijK417RiRPNtXtTOBe8gw) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Thu Jan 1, 2004 8:30
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] Re: confirmation</font>
<tt>Thanks for the comment - now that you put it that way, I agree too. Not
receiving a confirmation letter is completely different from bugging
them about your interview/selection status. There is still something I
can do about this as FED-EX has a name of the person who signed for my
application when it arrived at the Washington, DC Embassy, _on-time_ ;
I"ll give them a call as soon as I can.

Rich

On Thursday, January 1, 2004, at 07:07 AM, Thomas, Nicholas D wrote:





I disagree... It seems to me that this passage in the documentation
is referring to people who have already recieved their confirmation
postcard phoning up to check do i have an interview yet?

Phoning up to check if your application has been received at all, in
the absence of having received your postcard, is entirely different.

For the record, i delivered my application by hand to the Japanese
embassy in London, and i received my postcard 2 days later. That was a
little over a month ago, and i am yet to hear anything else back from
them.

If you have been waiting more than 3 weeks for your postcard, i would
definately give them a call. Having said that, if it turns out that
they have not received it, i don"t think there is anything you can do.
I doubt they would accept another copy of the application at this
stage - Still, it won"t hurt to ask.

Good luck

Nik

-----Original Message-----
From: feenixsf [mailto:richp@c... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=lrsDy7Muz2ANRWP3mt1s-qSEAGkdQGqFCDNNy6jwLawdMvUsSqpkT7iC-RJQPt71Di0lGKTRX7ooUg)]
Sent: Wed 31/12/2003 23:20
To: 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=KpKPZ7nxruVWO6wV8LV4w_qWn-JzS4ECrnGaaRdgno7XjhUvwN9rsZeollRPozH6tJNMWhntd-7U_XR8RA)
Cc:
Subject: [2004JET] Re: confirmation



I re-read the information at the Japanese Embassy site:

Applications will be screened initially at the Embassy during
December 2003 and January 2004. All applicants will be notified by
the end of January or early February regarding the status of their
application. Do not call the Embassy to check on the status of your
application.

Calling may not be a good idea as it is discouraged in the supporting
documentation.

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=KpKPZ7nxruVWO6wV8LV4w_qWn-JzS4ECrnGaaRdgno7XjhUvwN9rsZeollRPozH6tJNMWhntd-7U_XR8RA), siberakh1 sifertb@h... wrote:
Yup... I included a SASE with my address in the return spot as
well,
just so it wouldn"t find a way of getting lost. It would have
gotten
there on the deadline and being several states (US) away, hand
delivery wasn"t an option. It may be because it was the last day
or
so and they got bombarded with applications and just never got all
the cards out. I"ll probably give a quick call and see if they
received it.

--Brianne




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2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
Caerdydd2 [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=3zKz-l29ZC3Mpwp_-Asoft6yE5Saa1bxNYi1oOz_zgZkCXOuwKlarqiQjNShUAAM7YfwRp_TDGM7"]Caerdydd2@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?Caerdydd2) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Thu Jan 1, 2004 9:34
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Hi.</font>
<tt>Hi!

I"m a UK applicant and I"ve got my interview next week - really
glad I"ve found this group as it"s great to find so much enthusiasm
and positivity:-)

Sarah.

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
Jonathan [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=z_wNBbgq_dhChkixdV6amj79qIiDrX1VkhBUgM7YXCxnFSZqj1vDfYpBAh49Ai40r4ImEmlAWPsdNndAvofas7LTvd1SKQ"]hillhousejonathan@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?galapagosdrum) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Fri Jan 2, 2004 12:06
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Hi.</font>
<tt>Hi there Sarah

Happy new year, nice to meet another UK applicant! Good luck with
your interview, I posted something up about how mine went a few weeks
ago, hope you find it helpful. If I had to give you one word of
advice, it would be to try and relax. If you"ve re-read your essay
and swotted up on your Japanese culture, then you"ll be half way
there. Good luck and let me know how it goes!

Seeya

Jonathan

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=65iKos1hyKhRKkRACSNTdbNlJM2SVyjUcHAeoY0wsLde412usQwGXMa16Sej1zvkvtM6FcpFNb9BlctRZilv), Caerdydd2 Caerdydd2@y... wrote:
Hi!

I"m a UK applicant and I"ve got my interview next week - really
glad I"ve found this group as it"s great to find so much enthusiasm
and positivity:-)

Sarah.

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
cornycort cortney.k.keenan@a... (ymsgr:sendIM?cornycort) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Fri Jan 2, 2004 1:21
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Confirmation card - don"t call the embassy!</font>
<tt>Although I agree that the JET materials are saying that you should
not call to see if you have an interview, rather than if they have
received your application - I don"t think anyone should call the
embassy just yet. I"ve heard from plenty of current JETs that it
can take until mid-January to receive your confirmation card - check
out the Incoming/Potential JETs discussion on the [url]www.bigdaikon.com
website if you haven"t already. (This forum has some GREAT
information in it"s archives, though it seems like no one"s been
posting lately...and tons of current JETs willing to answer your
questions).
I haven"t received my confirmation card yet, but I"m not planning to
worry or call until mid-January. I don"t expect to have to call
though, since I know for sure that my application is there (I
dropped it off at the embassy!!!) If you got the application to the
embassy on the last few days, like me, I"m sure most of you haven"t
gotten your confirmation cards yet.
In all cases, I would say calling the embassy should be your LAST
resort...they really don"t want the thousands of US/UK/Canadian
applicants calling. I do think that some questions can be answered
only by the consulate, and in this case you should call - but only
after checking the archives of big daikon to see if there"s an easy
answer to your question!
Bugging the embassy/consulate may even hurt your chances...you don"t
want the interviewer from the consulate to know you as the one who
keeps calling with silly questions!

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
cornycort cortney.k.keenan@a... (ymsgr:sendIM?cornycort) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Fri Jan 2, 2004 1:28
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Hello</font>
<tt>Hi all,
Just want to introduce myself!

I"m a 24 year old female applying through the DC office. I"ve been
working in consulting in the DC metro for the past few years, but I
want to try something new! I studied abroad in Japan (Kansai Gaidai
in Hirakata City, Osaka) my junior year in college and have taken a
bit of Japanese, but have a very basic knowledge of the language.
International Business major in college with French and Asian
Studies minors.

I chose Fukuoka-ken (Kyushu), Kochi-ken (Shikoku), and Yamaguchi ken
(Western Honshu) as my preferences.

I posted this previously, but I just want to let everyone know that
for another source of information with tons of archives and tons of
current/past JETs (even some former interviewers), check out
[url]www.bigdaikon.com if you haven"t already. I"ll admit that some of
the posters can be quite negative, but there"s some really useful
information on the site! Take it all w/ a grain of salt though, and
remember that Every Situation is Different (ESID) as you read the
posts.

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
Anne Scoufalos [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=IhseN9GpYnRczDBrfwc8ojgCo4i6_jBS6tzLAKNuXjquTCN7q5nEIhbdFx66rAnM-MFSdIe3WJWQRYOt"]amscoufy@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?amscoufy) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Fri Jan 2, 2004 6:31
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Self Intro</font>
<tt>Hi everyone!

I just stumbled upon this group today, so I thought I"d say hi. I"m
an ALT applicant from eastern Pennsylvania, applying through NYC,
going absolutely bonkers waiting for the interview notifications to
be sent out. Anyone else out there from my area? I threw the same
question out on bigdaikon.com, but got nothing. Anyway, good luck to
all, and lets hope the notifications are sent out before we tear our
hair out completely!

Anne

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
clhughes2000 [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=kyME3xaqY8lgjRTY1ARstNwQhfi1xf8Vtu3nMJDT2xbFGHS-He9jB3E6fU-SAeIT0i7eMcFrGpop8JUB0hzG82g"]clhughes2000@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?clhughes2000) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Fri Jan 2, 2004 7:56
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Jan 12th London</font>
<tt>Hey all
Afta all my panicking i"ve got an interview on the 12th-which has
sent my heart into overdrive! if i"m this nervous already i dread to
think what i"ll be like on the day, but nehoo not the point, anyone
else got one that day? think mines at 4ish so if ya wanna drown
sorrows with me...

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
caerdyddtwo [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=NxBtb_20N8OB2qU0615j9CUivBd4_9eRbs3c4dNwo8qX51CsJ5vW5yJFTJIYoUrpd6GXfoHOUVMizw"]Caerdydd2@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?Caerdydd2) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Fri Jan 2, 2004 8:04
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] Jan 12th London</font>
<tt>Hi!

Mines on the 12th as well, at 11.35!

Good Luck:-)
Sarah

--- clhughes2000 clhughes2000@y... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=fwXt32dKnms1FVsMaqMOCxAg2ytmEgNlwzTNj3x4Y_l1Mt8oG8cUJC2qYNb2j_-TcMWrfYJtW8uo_7wkBQ) wrote:
Hey all
Afta all my panicking i"ve got an interview on the
12th-which has
sent my heart into overdrive! if i"m this nervous
already i dread to
think what i"ll be like on the day, but nehoo not
the point, anyone
else got one that day? think mines at 4ish so if ya
wanna drown
sorrows with me...




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2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
msdeni08 [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=kxWu7RNp_8t76iDrjTEGrbTlFenBqhpg0lAQ-h1KmWIGRBTlOPRUfgPYgKjMXVwER54m9r-FdFA"]msdeni08@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?msdeni08) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Jan 3, 2004 6:16
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: my intro</font>
<tt>Hi all, I am a graduate from Michigan State University (May 2003)
with a degree in Social Relations. I studied up to the third year of
Japanese language as well as some Japanese history, although much of
it has left me. I applied to Shiga prefecture and Kyoto city. I am
just as nervous and eager as the rest of you awaiting that lovely
interview date! I wish everyone good luck on their endeavor, and I"m
glad that everyone is so positive.


A quick question for any current JET, how quickly did you pick on the
language once in Japan. I know that I studied for a few years but
I"m afraid that once I open my mouth I"ll sound like a bumbling
idiot. :)


Arica

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
Christopher Ling [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=BV4Oa5V2ylKzZ29rkXLTGB---YtvhgCeK9RGJYhJGxFp5tzX4VzUGuGnofqWnx1xDcBzfQ5hPCKSZl3yG4ati5At"]Shinikenshi@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?shinikenshi) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Jan 3, 2004 7:20
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: RE: [2004JET] my intro</font>
<tt>That"s actually a very good question and one I"d like to have a general
answer to as well. From what I remember studying in Japan a few years back,
I learned fairly quickly (given how little I knew) in the 6 months of study
I did in Sendai. However, due to very little interaction with Japanese
people (important if you want to work on speaking skills) my Japanese really
isn"t all that good. Essentially, my reading and listening skills are good,
but the rest leaves much to hope for.

I figure, the best way to learn the language is to try to interact with
Japanese folks more and try to actively use Japanese. That"s always a good
way to go. :)

Chris

Hi all, I am a graduate from Michigan State University (May 2003)
with a degree in Social Relations. I studied up to the third year of
Japanese language as well as some Japanese history, although much of
it has left me. I applied to Shiga prefecture and Kyoto city. I am
just as nervous and eager as the rest of you awaiting that lovely
interview date! I wish everyone good luck on their endeavor, and I"m
glad that everyone is so positive.


A quick question for any current JET, how quickly did you pick on the
language once in Japan. I know that I studied for a few years but
I"m afraid that once I open my mouth I"ll sound like a bumbling
idiot. :)


Arica




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From:
[/url]
Luke [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=I24rsLXN_t0qDUHT6nk1fXNRBPq2a63tIY96AQeW6jfWziA1X4CbJWGTYGDpeon-6CkBekvJau9fCLepSecb"]redivider2003@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?redivider2003) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Jan 3, 2004 12:56
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: We all need some shelter!</font>
<tt>Dear All,

I was wondering if anyone knew what sort of accommodation set-up they
have over in Japan?

I have a Jet-friend who teaches in Hyogo - they pay for his flat.

In others they do not - so my real question is:

Does anyone know which prefectures sort out accommodation, and which
are less helpful? Who provide, and who make you pay?

I couldn"t find any useful info on this... apart from on the JET
website, but it is all a bit vague.

Thanks, Luke

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
flibbrt [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=7QDlx11LnrFimv2E0jWJDCekZd5SNm8D2GkBE2GlaeUbm-cvKT7ke12fa63boOvWctvPlSVcKUZP4-hsoRmENg"]mbbrinker@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?flibbrt) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Jan 3, 2004 3:53
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Hello too</font>
<tt>Since self-introductions seem to be the thing to do here I"ll
introduce myself too.

I stumbled accross this group looking for information on
confirmation cards -- I haven"t gotten mine yet either (and it"s
somewhat comforting, if you can call it that, to hear there are
others in the same predicament.

I"m 24, married with a daughter, and am about to finish a Masters of
Public Administration degree with an emphasis in city managment. I
lived in Japan for two years from 1998-2000, and completed a
Japanese minor as an undergraduate. I"ve applied to be a CIR.

This looks to be a very positive site, and I"m looking forward to
experiencing the JET application process with everyone.

Cheers,

Matt B

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
Auntie McFrank [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=aPfrPFFhvZ83ODuw7FbtGBwUbeyGAdQ-wMI1KL95mLv7fQdOfS8HaaG4aRENN3utzLazeoyPRfRirSmRrZY"]stenglei@o... (ymsgr:sendIM?auntiemcfrank) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Jan 3, 2004 5:05
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Ways to find a good placement area online.</font>
<tt>From the research I"ve done, I find the best way to look into a
prefecture or city is to see if the JETs in that area maintain an
official webpage. Many of them have living guides for the area, and
can give you a good picture of what housing is like, how supportive
the board of education is, and how mnay schools the JET ALTs
circulate through.

For instance, in one site, I was able to find out that in their city,
the board of education pays key money, provides good aparments, sets
up a bank account, and registers your hanko (name stamp-the legal
equivalent of your signature). Also, you can get a feel for their
sick day/personal day system, which seems to be the single greatest
source of dissatisfaction among many JET participants.

You can find prefecture information at such useful pages as the Japan
Information Network page:

http://www.jinjapan.org/region/

Once you"ve set your sites on a place, it would benefit you to see if
the JETs there have a page.

-Christine

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
ssjgoku_42001 [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=V4bV1DsGXlHfYsAPGXmC7dkpMxs_R3pe2AhAC3-FpyIqy-C0oerrTUX7CslxJlaxdrjOq2D8G2sILVWwCg4"]fritch20@n... (ymsgr:sendIM?ssjgoku_42001) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Jan 3, 2004 8:36
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Self Intro</font>
<tt>I applied to the NYC embassy from connecticut it is stressfull to
wait till the interview notifications are sent out but I have a good
feeling about getting accepted.

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=XzxxwWTd_RAAh_WKppdc3bZ0Y3GRIAW4l-fGED456mliurXb4k7miUv-3olcUC-C70lA8XoacoZ_vaf0JD5Jj8KW), Anne Scoufalos amscoufy@y...
wrote:
Hi everyone!

I just stumbled upon this group today, so I thought I"d say hi.
I"m
an ALT applicant from eastern Pennsylvania, applying through NYC,
going absolutely bonkers waiting for the interview notifications to
be sent out. Anyone else out there from my area? I threw the same
question out on bigdaikon.com, but got nothing. Anyway, good luck
to
all, and lets hope the notifications are sent out before we tear
our
hair out completely!

Anne

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
lardhardcase [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=q_bf_MQKv7CLjWPZ2UMG5PRXmaWWIPYXWlB-GWqDYmycI0e_iOXKfI4ZAONFk6FWwoBUupTjNXcPYVw"]radlarr@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?lardhardcase) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Jan 3, 2004 9:45
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: howdy everyone</font>
<tt>i apologize but i like to type in continuous thought rather than
proper grammer i prefer to save that stuff for the formal deals but
im an applicant from florida i must be stupid but these discussion
forums are awesome but hard as hell to maneuver around well either
way anyone from florida get in touch will interview in miami if
called also i noticed there are some members from oswego, pittsburg
both places ive lived anyways wondering if there was a good time to
be on when there is live conversation talk to yall later oh yeah i
hate grinding my teeth waiting for return and i have gotten my
confirmation card it was around christmas peace

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
<a href="ymsgr:sendIM?daveboyle80">http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/online.gif
</a>
daveboyle80 daveboyle80@y... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=QYkCe_2blBYKNDUJwUAs1bdFnBL-CuByWxzXVhb59I5tmAwa2YKSpW2V0bfyfsEvp4wGUO9HfBd1gLLLuBAt) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sat Jan 3, 2004 11:48
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Hey people</font>
<tt>Hey Everybody!
What a fantastic idea this site is! - A pity it took me so long to
stumble upon it :-(
Hmmmmmm......perhaps I ought to introduce myself rather than simply
ramble on......
I"m an ALT applicant from Staffordshire but I study in Glasgow so
hopefully I"ll get an interview in Edinburgh some time. I"m 22 and I
decided to not put a placement preferance down as it is somehow much
more exciting to have absolutely no idea where you might (hopefully)
end up! Well, that was the idea behind it anyway - now I"m starting
to wonder if it just makes me look disinterested. If there"s anyone
out there from Staffs or Glasgow please drop me an e-mail as it
would be great to get to know some fellow ALT wannabes. Come to
think about it - I don"t really care where you"re from it would be
nice to get to know you regardless

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
Jonathan hillhousejonathan@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?galapagosdrum) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sun Jan 4, 2004 1:52
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Hey people</font>
<tt>Hi there

My name is Jonathan and I live in the Wirral, England. I had my
interview a couple of weeks back and this waiting game is driving me
mad! Anyway, hope you make it to Japan!

Oh, check out [url]www.bigdaikon.com, another cool forum which I have just
joined. Lots of interesting stuff from past ALTS to help put your
mind at rest.

Seeya!

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
<a href="ymsgr:sendIM?wdccrawler">http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/online.gif
</a>
wdccrawler crawler@r... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=lvyoGmdMP6wVfNUo1Mxdj46cLWREFpvq8zKv8ajtllmXMMnywvT80ygqd72nWVQLzo6kBgLj-FHjQM-Euw) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sun Jan 4, 2004 2:10
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Ottawa Confirmation</font>
<tt>I had sent my application into the embassy in Ottawa on November
10th (via XpressPost). My confirmation postcard came back to me
around the 21st, so it was fairly quick. Still waiting for interview
notifications (for the Toronto consulate), hopefully they will be
sending out status on whether or not we will be getting an interview
sometime in the next couple of weeks.


Where did you send it? I"m Canadian, so mine went to Ottawa.
Anyone who sent
to Ottawa get a confirmation back yet?

Chris


Has anyone else NOT received a confirmation letter/card? I sent
mine
out air mail overnight so they should have gotten it by the
deadline. It just makes me nervous, that"s all since it"s been
almost a month...

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
Message 216 has been deleted.

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
Anne Scoufalos [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=6c_l7liLfcyucPBKF0v2mqNPsnbdFIMBBL5koPJrSsW-3vbGo2j63H0OAanyBWErAnneQpkZf4FauTO6"]amscoufy@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?amscoufy) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sun Jan 4, 2004 4:51
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] Re: Self Intro</font>
<tt>Hi,

Just out of curiosity...

Do you have teaching experience? I have quite a bit
of intercultural experience, spent some time in Japan,
etc.., but have no formal teaching experience, which
is stressing me out the most. Just wondering...Thanks
for the email!

Anne
--- ssjgoku_42001 fritch20@n... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=D6G-2xN408kunIV5EpHErn7Gwucy6eIIBGUR6yq23mdXh0lT-cYUFL9T2QTZrhHLB6MU92q5my__IvI) wrote:
I applied to the NYC embassy from connecticut it is
stressfull to
wait till the interview notifications are sent out
but I have a good
feeling about getting accepted.

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=n3i_aznK5O2ksDoTfAVehYNeaMsW1zMhDg15q5P1lVhyTq7Jh5kPqz_Bs5_wVY6geuOWiIMPyrp1MZRFhXA), Anne Scoufalos
amscoufy@y...
wrote:
Hi everyone!

I just stumbled upon this group today, so I
thought I"d say hi.
I"m
an ALT applicant from eastern Pennsylvania,
applying through NYC,
going absolutely bonkers waiting for the interview
notifications to
be sent out. Anyone else out there from my area?
I threw the same
question out on bigdaikon.com, but got nothing.
Anyway, good luck
to
all, and lets hope the notifications are sent out
before we tear
our
hair out completely!

Anne




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May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
Christopher Ling [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=7GxpWM1JfHSsoCXB3fewq7QrXBMLSDCvgfJsx2ad7BvqmpzJv6V7kbI75DFeOUjgoykMMAjM6R5yPWBjXw"]Shinikenshi@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?shinikenshi) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sun Jan 4, 2004 8:24
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] Re: Self Intro</font>
<tt>Hmm. I wonder how important teaching experience might be. I"ve heard many a
story that if wish to do revolutionary and crazy things to the educational
system, you are in the wrong place as it seems the biggest thing about JET
is the intercultural exchange. To expect to make a grand impact in academic
teaching is not really possible or even highly encouraged. If that was the
case, I suppose having little to no teaching experience might be okay? ^^;

For me, I"ve taught English to Japanese speakers on a short term basis a few
times. Before that, I"ve taught kids (K-12) mathematics and that was already
a pain in itself.

But of course, one can consider math to be a universal language where
English is more like...universal but hard for everyone else to understand!
:P

Chris

Hi,

Just out of curiosity...

Do you have teaching experience? I have quite a bit
of intercultural experience, spent some time in Japan,
etc.., but have no formal teaching experience, which
is stressing me out the most. Just wondering...Thanks
for the email!

Anne
--- ssjgoku_42001 fritch20@n... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=rEC2672_uV1qU8fuA9jEolgALfu-iYZZAB3gdjN41WQ4jZbPeOuzuOAKdzyEpY4Vf5iwf-m_U7Qr3g) wrote:
I applied to the NYC embassy from connecticut it is
stressfull to
wait till the interview notifications are sent out
but I have a good
feeling about getting accepted.

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=YJaQUvPJ6AdJ9Z-X_pREfsYDHsStKVlGJvkVDnAwHv4S-NgjTAztKNJ9HXT1xhpiy6WxcriwuAZe3ayyJMkd), Anne Scoufalos
amscoufy@y...
wrote:
Hi everyone!

I just stumbled upon this group today, so I
thought I"d say hi.
I"m
an ALT applicant from eastern Pennsylvania,
applying through NYC,
going absolutely bonkers waiting for the interview
notifications to
be sent out. Anyone else out there from my area?
I threw the same
question out on bigdaikon.com, but got nothing.
Anyway, good luck
to
all, and lets hope the notifications are sent out
before we tear
our
hair out completely!

Anne




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May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
expat_kid [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=RupBfB6uMPOmpIkJVW85DGaqKS7AxkZxfg2gD7XTDCq_k29oSeJCkM6o8qRxbdIF9auF4zW9CBTnNNeEhUFk_mBOGKtu"]clever_aphrodite@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?expat_kid) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sun Jan 4, 2004 8:41
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: dilemma</font>
<tt>Hi all,
I"ll introduce myself and then my dilemma. I"m 22 years old,
graduated from UC Santa Cruz and I currently live in New Zealand
(it"s even more beautiful than anything you"ve seen in the LOTR
movies). When the time comes, I will be interviewing in Hawaii :).
I"m really glad that I came across this website- everyone seems very
supportive. It will be nice to put faces to names come next August!

Anyway, here"s my problem. One of my references was mailed to me
from Japan. I waited and waited for it, but it never arrived. I had
the tracking number, so I called NZ Post and asked them where it
was. They said it had arrived in New Zealand but after that they had
no record of it- it was lost basically. The woman writing my
reference decided that it didn"t seem like a good idea to send the
letter to me again, so she called the embassy and asked to send it
to them directly (which she did).
I sent my application via UPS and they guaranteed it would arrive in
DC on December 5. However, when the time came my application was
stuck in Singapore and UPS said it would be delivered by December 8.
I then called the embassy and they said it wasn"t my fault (because
UPS had guaranteed the delivery) and it would be alright as long as
I got UPS to fax the embassy stating that they had originally
guaranteed the delivery for December 5. I called UPS back, they said
fine. I then called the embassy to tell them that UPS would send a
fax and they told me that UPS had just called to confirm that a fax
was necessary.
Then I left for a trip.
When I came back, there was no confirmation card. I know that mail
from the US takes 4 days to reach me here. I decided to call UPS to
ask them when they had faxed the embassy, they told me that they had
sent the fax on December 9- 4 days after I had asked them to send
the fax and 1 day after the embassy had received my application. So,
now I am left wondering if the embassy had thrown out my application
because they hadn"t received that fax from UPS. I would like to get
in touch with the embassy to ask about my application but I don"t
want to cross that line: do not call the embassy about the status
of your application.
The woman who wrote one of my references said that I should not
worry because the embassy had already received her reference letter,
they were aware of the mail situation, knew that I was applying and
my application did get there.
However, I am afraid that with the thousands of people that apply
each year, they might not have even glanced at my application when
it arrived late. Of course I am hoping that they had made note of my
situation with the phone calls I made.
What would you do in my situation?

(Sorry that was so long- I welcome any ideas/suggestions that people
have!)

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
Bronwen Veale [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=ajObW5q1ckVBr--j8NwXOsW673dLx575VPb9avnnTrBG2VUerdXWiq0z_dddrjerGqqMo4CbxX2LLSo7"]vealeb@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?bron_v) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sun Jan 4, 2004 9:37
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] dilemma</font>
<TT>Hi all,
I"ll introduce myself and then my dilemma. I"m 22 years old,
graduated from UC Santa Cruz and I currently live in New Zealand
(it"s even more beautiful than anything you"ve seen in the LOTR
movies). When the time comes, I will be interviewing in Hawaii :).
I"m really glad that I came across this website- everyone seems very
supportive. It will be nice to put faces to names come next August!

Anyway, here"s my problem. One of my references was mailed to me
from Japan. I waited and waited for it, but it never arrived. I had
the tracking number, so I called NZ Post and asked them where it
was. They said it had arrived in New Zealand but after that they had
no record of it- it was lost basically. The woman writing my
reference decided that it didn"t seem like a good idea to send the
letter to me again, so she called the embassy and asked to send it
to them directly (which she did).
I sent my application via UPS and they guaranteed it would arrive in
DC on December 5. However, when the time came my application was
stuck in Singapore and UPS said it would be delivered by December 8.
I then called the embassy and they said it wasn"t my fault (because
UPS had guaranteed the delivery) and it would be alright as long as
I got UPS to fax the embassy stating that they had originally
guaranteed the delivery for December 5. I called UPS back, they said
fine. I then called the embassy to tell them that UPS would send a
fax and they told me that UPS had just called to confirm that a fax
was necessary.
Then I left for a trip.
When I came back, there was no confirmation card. I know that mail
from the US takes 4 days to reach me here. I decided to call UPS to
ask them when they had faxed the embassy, they told me that they had
sent the fax on December 9- 4 days after I had asked them to send
the fax and 1 day after the embassy had received my application. So,
now I am left wondering if the embassy had thrown out my application
because they hadn"t received that fax from UPS. I would like to get
in touch with the embassy to ask about my application but I don"t
want to cross that line: "do not call the embassy about the status
of your application."
The woman who wrote one of my references said that I should not
worry because the embassy had already received her reference letter,
they were aware of the mail situation, knew that I was applying and
my application did get there.
However, I am afraid that with the thousands of people that apply
each year, they might not have even glanced at my application when
it arrived late. Of course I am hoping that they had made note of my
situation with the phone calls I made.
What would you do in my situation?

(Sorry that was so long- I welcome any ideas/suggestions that people
have!)
<BR

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
Bronwen Veale [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=SmNfYW-yioPJKUg_sIDy-oVemaPNmQmPL0VG6p9XQBVnq5P-mIqJ_zt92MphOTcY29h6ZtU6Q4o9sA"]vealeb@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?bron_v) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sun Jan 4, 2004 9:39
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] Re: Self Intro</font>
<TT>Hi,

Just out of curiosity...

Do you have teaching experience? I have quite a bit
of intercultural experience, spent some time in Japan,
etc.., but have no formal teaching experience, which
is stressing me out the most. Just wondering...Thanks
for the email!

Anne
--- ssjgoku_42001 fritch20@netzero.com wrote:
I applied to the NYC embassy from connecticut it is
stressfull to
wait till the interview notifications are sent out
but I have a good
feeling about getting accepted.

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com, "Anne Scoufalos"
amscoufy@y...
wrote:
Hi everyone!

I just stumbled upon this group today, so I
thought I"d say hi.
I"m
an ALT applicant from eastern Pennsylvania,
applying through NYC,
going absolutely bonkers waiting for the interview
notifications to
be sent out. Anyone else out there from my area?
I threw the same
question out on bigdaikon.com, but got nothing.
Anyway, good luck
to
all, and lets hope the notifications are sent out
before we tear
our
hair out completely!

Anne




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May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
sjsamurai007 [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=WVhDMssT398h8jul22PW-3M8doCjOxms44coynalMXgP1_GA_s_z4cr2DheYRjvZ1hse2ZTUPvFP5cTnAwbZ7Q"]TomMiskey@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?sjsamurai007) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sun Jan 4, 2004 10:11
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Answering a few questions</font>
<tt>Hi all! First, let me say Welcome! to all the new members. I was
on JET from 1996-98, in Wakayama-ken. I"ll try to answer some of
the recent questions here...

Learning Japanese: I found that those who already had the basics,
such as a year or more in university, or had been an exchange
student to Japan previously, learned very quickly. They knew enough
already that it was not too hard picking up additional vocabulary by
conversing in Japanese, reading papers, etc. However, many of us
that knew absolutely no Japanese before going had a tough time. I
found that there seemed to be 2 main responses: study like crazy to
get the basics down, and then progress from there, or just learn
enough to get by day to day, and not make a concerted effort to
become fluent. I fell squarely into the 2nd catagory. By the end
of my 2 years, I was able to ask simple questions and understand the
answers, in a very basic elementary school-level vocabulary. I
studied once a week, trading English for Japanese lessons with a
local tour guide (who already had great English skills, but wanted
to learn more).

Housing and work conditions: You won"t find entire prefectures or
regions that are better or worse. Each individual school or
sponsering education center has their own way of doing things. My
city had 4 JETs, and each was different. The guy that taught at the
Jr. High got 1/3 of his apartment rent paid for, and 5 free days off
per month, use them or lose them. I received no help on the rent,
and in fact, my school required that I pay them back for the key
money and furnishings! I had 20 days off per year, but I was only
allowed to use them during school vacations at winter, spring, and
summer. One guy in the next town over had an entire house, rent
free, but got only 10 days of vacation per year. Every school is
different, and it is pretty much sheer luck as to what you"ll get.
However, no school will just leave you to fend entirely for yourself
when it comes to housing. In the great majority of cases, you"ll
move into whatever place your predecessor was living in, and just
take over the rent. If yours is a new location, with no
predecessor, the school will help you to find a place to live. They
will also probably help you to furnish it, give you a hanko (name
stamp), and help you to get settled by showing you around town, etc.

Good luck, all... and if I can help with any more questions, let me
know!

Tom

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
Luke [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=iXFiqbfLYDUNGJGAqiHHdVUD-kHqrkURS1wnS6l2SotY9A0OjqsrXM-RmNEgqd0HZE5sPfMjdk5eW5obKJYLCqbZRwM"]redivider2003@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?redivider2003) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sun Jan 4, 2004 2:53
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Answering a few questions</font>
<tt>Hi Tom,

Good to have your experience behind us. I was wondering whether you
could tell us your views on this idea that JETs often arrive with
the wrong understanding of the programme i.e. the actual level of
teaching is minimal, instead ALTs act more as an "teaching-aid" in
class... is this true, or were you experiences different? Did you
feel you were allowed a free-reign of teaching practices, could
invent your own methods and invite greater class participation?

I have read such a wide, diverse range of opinion, admittedly on
bigdaikon - it appears to be a bit of a lottery, as with most things
JET.

- would you say you had any teaching experience before you went
that eased the transition, or were you completely new to it?

- are mobile phones an essential item (communicating with other JETs
etc)

- are there prefecture-gatherings organised?

- is the cost of living in Japan so high that it makes it difficult
to save? Did you intend to save, if so, were you able to?

- two years appears to be the average stay with JET - do people have
the option to change prefecture after the 1st?

- is travelling abroad during holidays is discouraged, especially
places such as Thailand - did you get a chance to do some out-of-
Japan travelling i.e. China / Korea...?

- what did you do after leaving JET - was it influenced by your time
in Japanese schools or even Japan?

- would you recommend bringing teaching materials with you - to make
things less stressful... magazine cut-outs, music tapes, film
footage... or are these banned from the classroom?

SORRY TO ASK SO MANY Q"s BUT THESE SEEM TO BE THE AREAS THAT HAVE
LITTLE INFO ON...

THANKS FOR ANY HELP YOU CAN PUT FORWARD... luke.




--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=_y3vJqYx1uF01LuaHO0kVpDzRTpXqtYFst3zTVkL7f7dKus90-5Yz4qBJ1601yUsvYAMjqgPY5GotS4qeg), sjsamurai007 TomMiskey@h...
wrote:
Hi all! First, let me say Welcome! to all the new members. I
was
on JET from 1996-98, in Wakayama-ken. I"ll try to answer some of
the recent questions here...

Learning Japanese: I found that those who already had the basics,
such as a year or more in university, or had been an exchange
student to Japan previously, learned very quickly. They knew
enough
already that it was not too hard picking up additional vocabulary
by
conversing in Japanese, reading papers, etc. However, many of us
that knew absolutely no Japanese before going had a tough time. I
found that there seemed to be 2 main responses: study like crazy
to
get the basics down, and then progress from there, or just learn
enough to get by day to day, and not make a concerted effort to
become fluent. I fell squarely into the 2nd catagory. By the end
of my 2 years, I was able to ask simple questions and understand
the
answers, in a very basic elementary school-level vocabulary. I
studied once a week, trading English for Japanese lessons with a
local tour guide (who already had great English skills, but wanted
to learn more).

Housing and work conditions: You won"t find entire prefectures or
regions that are better or worse. Each individual school or
sponsering education center has their own way of doing things. My
city had 4 JETs, and each was different. The guy that taught at
the
Jr. High got 1/3 of his apartment rent paid for, and 5 free days
off
per month, use them or lose them. I received no help on the rent,
and in fact, my school required that I pay them back for the key
money and furnishings! I had 20 days off per year, but I was only
allowed to use them during school vacations at winter, spring, and
summer. One guy in the next town over had an entire house, rent
free, but got only 10 days of vacation per year. Every school is
different, and it is pretty much sheer luck as to what you"ll
get.
However, no school will just leave you to fend entirely for
yourself
when it comes to housing. In the great majority of cases, you"ll
move into whatever place your predecessor was living in, and just
take over the rent. If yours is a new location, with no
predecessor, the school will help you to find a place to live.
They
will also probably help you to furnish it, give you a hanko (name
stamp), and help you to get settled by showing you around town,
etc.

Good luck, all... and if I can help with any more questions, let
me
know!

Tom

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
squirez000 [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=qD6f_Na9TpMp8jrfhsWauTaw3y_rP0m-X5wmANZ3lnopy5BkjRDeGozFZ26r4CUDG40WmBsNdvRTJVwCQ_3ONA"]squirez000@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?squirez000) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Sun Jan 4, 2004 5:33
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: </font>
<tt>Hurray! I"ve just discovered this site and am reassured and relieved
to discover a way of being able to communicate with otherjet
applicants who are going through the same process as me. All the
info in the messages has been fabulous.
My name is Helen and it took my boyfriend about two seconds to
convince me last September that the jet programme was too good an
opportunity to miss!
I"m 25 years old, I graduated in 1999 with a degree in biological
sciences before I got the travel bug and spent 2 years traveling
abroad.
Good luck to everyone and a happy new year!
Helen.

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
<a href="ymsgr:sendIM?michelleminetola">http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/online.gif
</a>
Michelle Minetola michelleminetola@y... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=k38Ed9T1HDeU5pxavjYA6Uq_wdebozFS866uPhqXvhdVVKwbGosylu0JTe5pliGS4PprJEWAu0LspZff2wlGhB3ZNg) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Jan 5, 2004 1:58
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Hello too</font>
<tt>Hi Matt,

I"m glad to hear that you are married with a daughter! I am too!!
My daughter is 14 months old, and I am very excited for her to
experience the Japanese culture!

Best of luck to you and your family!
Hopefully, I"ll see you in Japan!

-Michelle

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=P0dLtTCBnegNqF_1bAMaTTfQv9ElM86DV4peLXz7VOqzRzd6XmZl6dPL2PJF7awWtybnfVs4KBCinh4D5A9o), flibbrt mbbrinker@h... wrote:
Since self-introductions seem to be the thing to do here I"ll
introduce myself too.

I stumbled accross this group looking for information on
confirmation cards -- I haven"t gotten mine yet either (and it"s
somewhat comforting, if you can call it that, to hear there are
others in the same predicament.

I"m 24, married with a daughter, and am about to finish a Masters
of
Public Administration degree with an emphasis in city managment.
I
lived in Japan for two years from 1998-2000, and completed a
Japanese minor as an undergraduate. I"ve applied to be a CIR.

This looks to be a very positive site, and I"m looking forward to
experiencing the JET application process with everyone.

Cheers,

Matt B

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
<a href="ymsgr:sendIM?wdccrawler">http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/online.gif
</a>
wdccrawler crawler@r... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=Lf2QjNJ9n_SWUvhjY4kiuAvrDgGV276ljU1thjK4V-_s-K9caNj2T5470aRMG1jB-yYoZ8Ci159e5Q) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Jan 5, 2004 4:12
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Hello</font>
<tt>My apologies, I accidentally deleted my earlier intro post.

So, hello again! Anyone else on the forum from the Toronto area?

I did have a quick question in my earlier post about how they
differentiated between urban and semi-urban ; when I was browsing
through some earlier posts, there was apparently no hard and fast
rule regarding this.

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
libbaquinn [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=1_F8a2t5Y9V20WMXr7o_9mjNikUoZjH1NBtr4hTA8ZtBykSUKAJgfEbdesmK3wzo07_amWkHLTMVRUg"]Lightdive@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?libbaquinn) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Jan 5, 2004 5:03
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Inro</font>
<tt>Hey, my name is Libba. I"m a student at the University of Georgia
(Go Dawgs!) and will graduate with a degree in Special Education this
May. I have gotten my confirmation card but have not yet heard about
an interview. Good luck to everybody and thanks to y"all that took
the time to set up the database/polls etc.

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
libbaquinn [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=5_RcWSZrSdegIfD3t0K01VSnd9cfXSOpx08Fy5qdY-V-R0tYU0wrd6DU39CzCS8-otvVs2JxuKhF6nkVAQzh"]Lightdive@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?libbaquinn) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Jan 5, 2004 5:26
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: written test?</font>
<tt>After reading some of the posts, I was wondering about a few
references to the written test. This is the first that I had heard
of it, and it seemed (although I could be mistaken) that it was a
person from the UK referring to it. Is there a written test in the
US? What kinds of questions does it consist of? Am I the only one
who didn"t know about this? Any help would be really appreciated...I
was allready nervous about the interview! Thanks!

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
sjsamurai007 [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=XI_l9CnP__DHTqlzo4EaFUMmH9lPFyOD2QLiewnnOc9b-ki72bggIbgEfPbfdkAzlf8h5UfUpGIVofno7jhh"]TomMiskey@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?sjsamurai007) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Jan 5, 2004 5:57
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Answering a few questions</font>
<tt>Wow, that"s a lot of questions! I"ll try to give fairly short
answers to each of them, and if you need me to explain more, I will.

- Yes, I had 2 years of experience teaching Art at a local community
center. I think it definitely helped as far as getting me used to
speaking in front of a class, designing lessons that will fit within
the alloted time, handling restless kids, etc. But most of my
fellow JETs had no teaching experienced and managed just fine. As
far as freedom to design lessons, that varied greatly from teacher
to teacher. Some only wanted a human tape recorder to model proper
pronunciation. Others wanted to stand back and turn the entire
class over to me, to do what I wanted. Most fell somewhere in
between, and their relative progress through the textbook on the
days I wasn"t with their class somewhat determined how much of my
stuff we could do. (I team-taught with over 20 different Japanese
Teachers of English, or JTEs for short, so it might sometimes be a
week or even a month before I taught with the same teacher in the
same class again...)

- Mobile phones are useful, and very common in Japan. Some places
even gave out free phones in exchange for signing up to a 1+ year
contract. I didn"t get one, though, as I did not often meet up with
people on the go... I"d plan ahead, or just go on my own. Our town
was not very big, and 2 of the other 3 JETs in town lived in the
same apartment building as I. We"d all get together for dinner or
whatever by just walking down the hall and knocking on the door, or
calling on the regular phone. Since we were all leaving from the
same place, we just went together...

- There were tons of prefectural events organized by AJET. There
was something almost every weekend! Homestays, BBQs, going to a
festival, hiking, camping, etc... we did it all, and had quite a few
adventures! Each prefecture is different, though, and since AJET is
actually run by the local JETs themselves, it varies year to year.
If the people elected to become the AJET officers decide they don"t
want to plan lots of stuff, that prefecture may not have many things
that year! If that happens, you may want to contact neighboring
prefectures to see what they are doing, especially if you are close
to the border (I was just 5 minutes from both the Nara and Osaka
borders... my town was nestled right up into the corner where the 3
prefectures meet.)

- I did intend to save from the start, and I was able to bring home
almost $25,000 in savings after 2 years! If you watch what you buy,
stay away from drinking and other expensive habits, you"ll be able
to save quite a bit. I still travelled all over Japan, but I took
my long trips during the vacation seasons, when you can get
discounts on train tickets (book of 5 all-day passes for about $100,
called a ju-hachi kippu). I rented videos rather than going to the
movie theater, which is VERY expensive in Japan. I ate very well,
but I tended to cook dinner for myself at least 85% of the time. I
often ate out at lunch, but stuck to cheap, family-style restaurants
where you can get a teishoku (set meal) for about $5-6. I collected
manga (Japanese comics), but bought most of them used for at least
1/2 off. There are lots of tricks to saving money.

- There is not really an option to change prefectures. Technically
it"s possible, but you"ll need to show some outstandingly good
reason to do so (such as my wife and child live there and they can"t
move to be with me, or something like that). Merely saying it"d be
nice to see another prefecture now or I don"t like my current
school won"t cut it. Moving to another location within the same
prefecture is easier, but still not very common.

- Travelling abroad is fairly common among most JETs, but my school
forbid me from leaving Japan except to return home to visit my
family. I"m not sure how they could have stopped me if I"d
disobeyed, but I suppose if they were angry enough, they could have
terminated my contract and sent me home... I decided I would just
be content to exploring Japan, and I went all over the country... as
far south as Nagasaki, as far north as Niko (2 hrs north of Tokyo),
and everyplace in between... I hiked in the Japan Alps, saw
Hiroshima and Miyajima Island, fed the deer in Nara park, explored
Kyoto"s most famous temples, and more!

- My first job upon getting back was custmer service and past-due
collections for a company that services Toshiba phone systems. I
don"t think Japan had much of an impact on that, though, as most of
the people I worked with were Arabs and Phillipinos. My 2nd job was
in Perishable Exports for Nippon Express, and I definitely think JET
helped me to get that job. Nearly all my co-workers there were
Japanese, and they wanted someone who could work well with them.
Unfortunately, the economic downturn of California (and the US in
general) resulted in me being laid off, and I"m currently unemployed
and looking for a job. It has been tough, and most places I"ve
applied to have never heard of JET.

- I wouldn"t say actual teaching materials are necessary, but do
bring things from home to show people... photos of your friends,
family, and hometown are nice, and anything you think might be a fun
and interesting conversation starter...

And to wdccrawler: The terms mean about what you"d expect... Urban
is in a large city, semi-urban or sub-urban is in a smaller city, or
the outskirts of a bigger one, and rural is countryside. Most
people mark Urban or Sub-urban, but there are a lot of Rural
placements to fill, so not everyone will get as cosmopolitan a
placement as they may hope for...

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
sjsamurai007 [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=3E1SS17oJwuyKT6PkcFxjoVLDfgPYehhVDc7oF4wr_org8DEi8Zl3DvSz3L3JUVEypwfJKRuUI2WUVtVMQ"]TomMiskey@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?sjsamurai007) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Jan 5, 2004 5:59
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: written test?</font>
<tt>There has never been a written test in the US, but I"d never heard
of one being given before in the UK, either... so it might just be a
UK thing, or it might be new this year, I don"t know.

Tom


--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=IB-grjyQikxeM3ib_SRSRXe4zrt0R91SG7nUnE7Zki-2X2re7AbOZVsuCV56hqGQW99dDDb0N_GX6fIBzblNKUHt), libbaquinn Lightdive@h... wrote:
After reading some of the posts, I was wondering about a few
references to the written test. This is the first that I had
heard
of it, and it seemed (although I could be mistaken) that it was a
person from the UK referring to it. Is there a written test in
the
US? What kinds of questions does it consist of? Am I the only one
who didn"t know about this? Any help would be really
appreciated...I
was allready nervous about the interview! Thanks!

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
Matt [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=Hryjx1uqBehV8NosTL0gTYCrkehYDtfHxWTwhvbg4LpViX8mwb2iLTYji0JJKnpJ2pmPxN1kGqCdzhRY7XI"]dynamisx@b... (ymsgr:sendIM?dynamisx) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Jan 5, 2004 10:26
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: written test?</font>
<tt>Hi, and welcome to all you new members!

There is definitely a small written test in the UK, and has been for
some time. I had my interview in November, and the other UK
applicants had to do the test as well (although slightly different
papers, I think). It"s basically because the interview is so short
(15 mins) that they don"t get to test your knowledge.

It"s just a few simple questions about Japan (name a famous
sportsperson / Anime series. Is Shinkansen faster than TVR...?),
about the UK (Who is ...?, What do you think of ...?), and about
English grammar (checking spelling, explaining a few grammar points).

Although my interviewers were handed my completed tests, they didn"t
really have any chance to look at it except during the interview, and
didn"t ask me anything based on it that I noticed.

I"d read about it on various websites, so I assumed it was global,
but to my knowledge only early submitting UK applicants have been
interviewed so far, so it"s hard to say. If you don"t have a written
test, I would assume they will ask you that sort of question during
the interview, so the pressure is on!

Good luck,

Matt

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=XSHH8fM0YoFONzyg3pE54W8Gxgs2cUEFOAnk8FX6vDx8uAXWxyxa5Us24OzfYO850aqmJT1IhvfP1RizfHOX), sjsamurai007 TomMiskey@h... wrote:
There has never been a written test in the US, but I"d never heard
of one being given before in the UK, either... so it might just be
a
UK thing, or it might be new this year, I don"t know.

Tom


--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=XSHH8fM0YoFONzyg3pE54W8Gxgs2cUEFOAnk8FX6vDx8uAXWxyxa5Us24OzfYO850aqmJT1IhvfP1RizfHOX), libbaquinn Lightdive@h... wrote:
After reading some of the posts, I was wondering about a few
references to the written test. This is the first that I had
heard
of it, and it seemed (although I could be mistaken) that it was a
person from the UK referring to it. Is there a written test in
the
US? What kinds of questions does it consist of? Am I the only
one
who didn"t know about this? Any help would be really
appreciated...I
was allready nervous about the interview! Thanks!

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
Luke [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=R7mEJOCFW0W8UFI1at9CkugafK6AppnxbY90AKH-rstRZz24l0roskqMKDVZw_87HF15xyh_xExLGmXVaoK1Jw"]redivider2003@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?redivider2003) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Jan 5, 2004 3:41
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Answering a few questions</font>
<tt>Thanks a lot for taking the time to give a decent (and interesting)
response to my questions - i appreciate it a lot. I suppose
travelling abroad shouldn"t really be a problem anyway - I haven"t
been to Japan before, so i imagine there will be plenty of bizarre
and beautiful distractions. Thanks again and good luck with the job-
hunt. Luke



--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=yZT9QbRNTqbbuX3803vYJyCmluPtuinBTDyVJul63cvPAzUvPDKF0e1tPQgpdAEBpNI7voP_j7Zi9F9Y-Q), sjsamurai007 TomMiskey@h...
wrote:
Wow, that"s a lot of questions! I"ll try to give fairly short
answers to each of them, and if you need me to explain more, I
will.

- Yes, I had 2 years of experience teaching Art at a local
community
center. I think it definitely helped as far as getting me used to
speaking in front of a class, designing lessons that will fit
within
the alloted time, handling restless kids, etc. But most of my
fellow JETs had no teaching experienced and managed just fine. As
far as freedom to design lessons, that varied greatly from teacher
to teacher. Some only wanted a human tape recorder to model
proper
pronunciation. Others wanted to stand back and turn the entire
class over to me, to do what I wanted. Most fell somewhere in
between, and their relative progress through the textbook on the
days I wasn"t with their class somewhat determined how much of my
stuff we could do. (I team-taught with over 20 different Japanese
Teachers of English, or JTEs for short, so it might sometimes be a
week or even a month before I taught with the same teacher in the
same class again...)

- Mobile phones are useful, and very common in Japan. Some places
even gave out free phones in exchange for signing up to a 1+ year
contract. I didn"t get one, though, as I did not often meet up
with
people on the go... I"d plan ahead, or just go on my own. Our
town
was not very big, and 2 of the other 3 JETs in town lived in the
same apartment building as I. We"d all get together for dinner or
whatever by just walking down the hall and knocking on the door,
or
calling on the regular phone. Since we were all leaving from the
same place, we just went together...

- There were tons of prefectural events organized by AJET. There
was something almost every weekend! Homestays, BBQs, going to a
festival, hiking, camping, etc... we did it all, and had quite a
few
adventures! Each prefecture is different, though, and since AJET
is
actually run by the local JETs themselves, it varies year to
year.
If the people elected to become the AJET officers decide they
don"t
want to plan lots of stuff, that prefecture may not have many
things
that year! If that happens, you may want to contact neighboring
prefectures to see what they are doing, especially if you are
close
to the border (I was just 5 minutes from both the Nara and Osaka
borders... my town was nestled right up into the corner where the
3
prefectures meet.)

- I did intend to save from the start, and I was able to bring
home
almost $25,000 in savings after 2 years! If you watch what you
buy,
stay away from drinking and other expensive habits, you"ll be able
to save quite a bit. I still travelled all over Japan, but I took
my long trips during the vacation seasons, when you can get
discounts on train tickets (book of 5 all-day passes for about
$100,
called a ju-hachi kippu). I rented videos rather than going to
the
movie theater, which is VERY expensive in Japan. I ate very well,
but I tended to cook dinner for myself at least 85% of the time.
I
often ate out at lunch, but stuck to cheap, family-style
restaurants
where you can get a teishoku (set meal) for about $5-6. I
collected
manga (Japanese comics), but bought most of them used for at least
1/2 off. There are lots of tricks to saving money.

- There is not really an option to change prefectures.
Technically
it"s possible, but you"ll need to show some outstandingly good
reason to do so (such as my wife and child live there and they
can"t
move to be with me, or something like that). Merely saying it"d
be
nice to see another prefecture now or I don"t like my current
school won"t cut it. Moving to another location within the same
prefecture is easier, but still not very common.

- Travelling abroad is fairly common among most JETs, but my
school
forbid me from leaving Japan except to return home to visit my
family. I"m not sure how they could have stopped me if I"d
disobeyed, but I suppose if they were angry enough, they could
have
terminated my contract and sent me home... I decided I would just
be content to exploring Japan, and I went all over the country...
as
far south as Nagasaki, as far north as Niko (2 hrs north of
Tokyo),
and everyplace in between... I hiked in the Japan Alps, saw
Hiroshima and Miyajima Island, fed the deer in Nara park, explored
Kyoto"s most famous temples, and more!

- My first job upon getting back was custmer service and past-due
collections for a company that services Toshiba phone systems. I
don"t think Japan had much of an impact on that, though, as most
of
the people I worked with were Arabs and Phillipinos. My 2nd job
was
in Perishable Exports for Nippon Express, and I definitely think
JET
helped me to get that job. Nearly all my co-workers there were
Japanese, and they wanted someone who could work well with them.
Unfortunately, the economic downturn of California (and the US in
general) resulted in me being laid off, and I"m currently
unemployed
and looking for a job. It has been tough, and most places I"ve
applied to have never heard of JET.

- I wouldn"t say actual teaching materials are necessary, but do
bring things from home to show people... photos of your friends,
family, and hometown are nice, and anything you think might be a
fun
and interesting conversation starter...

And to wdccrawler: The terms mean about what you"d expect...
Urban
is in a large city, semi-urban or sub-urban is in a smaller city,
or
the outskirts of a bigger one, and rural is countryside. Most
people mark Urban or Sub-urban, but there are a lot of Rural
placements to fill, so not everyone will get as cosmopolitan a
placement as they may hope for...

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
b>From:[/b]
[/url]
Peter Honigmann Jr [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=4AyaFCzHi0mgV5PaTPNu9Wv21OihoGoaorW_1TjyDVsphqCJVW0RExBHWguC1iSvhfs5LaZgOsjUgQ0DNgWlvU_UDQSuKQ"]foleyhonigmann@s... (ymsgr:sendIM?peter_honigmann) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Jan 5, 2004 3:45
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: General JET Info</font>

</td></tr>
<tr valign="top" align="left"><td width="100%" valign="top" align="left">
<DIV>Luke:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You asked some specific questions, and I thought I would provide you with my take on them.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>First, it is true that for the most part the JETs are not teaching in the usual sense. My experience, and that of most other JETs I knew was about the same. As an ALT/AET, whatever they call it these days, you are most often used to read passages to help students with their pronunciation, you will introduce yourself countless times (and if you are a one-shot like I was, visiting 40 different junior highs, you will do it even more), and you may be asked to assist with creating lesson plans or at least might get some input on what topics should be covered. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If you are lucky, you may get to actually teach. This depends on the teachers you are working with, the quality of the school you are at, and your relationship with the Japanese instructors. I would suggest that if you want to teach that you may be able to do so in the English club. If you talk to the teacher in charge of the club you may be able to do quite a bit of teaching there, and with students who have a genuine interest in learning.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>"- would you say you had any teaching experience before you went
that eased the transition, or were you completely new to it?"</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>When I went over I had none. And based on what we were generally required to do it wasn"t necessary anyway. I would say more important is to learn some basic Japanese as fast as possible. The reason for this is much discussion and comments will occur in the classroom in Japanese, and it will be impossible for the teacher to keep you completely up to date on what is being said. By understanding the basics you will learn how the class feels about you and what kind of things they are saying about you.

"- are there prefecture-gatherings organised?"</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>JET has various meetings which they will require that you attend, and for which they will provide money for travel (at least they used to when I was there in "95-"96). You need to also stay in touch with the local JETs who will have their own gatherings much more frequently and which will provide you with a lot of helpful information about the area, culture, and the language.

"- is the cost of living in Japan so high that it makes it difficult
to save? Did you intend to save, if so, were you able to?"</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I did not find this to be the case. Assuming that most of your rent is subsidized, you should be able to live quite nicely. Most people I knew were able to save money, pay bills at home and/or travel abroad. This situation can also be helped if you give private lessons. While this is officially frowned upon by JET, most teachers and people you work with do not seem to care and may be interested in actually having private lessons. I know a few people who made a LOT of money doing extra teaching.

"- two years appears to be the average stay with JET - do people have
the option to change prefecture after the 1st?"</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>While you do have the option of changing your location, I understand that it can be very difficult. One reason for this is that the place you began working at may become quite unhappy with the fact that you want to leave. They may feel betrayed, and no matter how you explain it to them it can leave them very unhappy with you. But I have heard of people who did do it and enjoyed the change. It is just something you may want to consider carefully before doing, because if it does not work out and you want to stay, the situation may become very uncomfortable for you.

"- is travelling abroad during holidays is discouraged, especially
places such as Thailand - did you get a chance to do some out-of-
Japan travelling i.e. China / Korea...?" </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>This depends on where you work. Technically it should not matter to them what you do with your time when you have holidays, but some schools and offices may try to influence your decisions. I know some JETs who would simply tell their supervisor that they were going somewhere within Japan and then travel abroad just to make things easier at work.

"- what did you do after leaving JET - was it influenced by your time
in Japanese schools or even Japan?"</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>What you choose to do with this experience is really up to you. I have not really used it in my job, but I do teach basic Japanese language courses at local park districts and also help out at JET events when I can to promote the program. Of course some people leave the program but choose to stay in Japan forever, and then others come back and work for Japanese companies. It really depends on what you make of it.

- would you recommend bringing teaching materials with you - to make
things less stressful... magazine cut-outs, music tapes, film
footage... or are these banned from the classroom?

What you will be allowed to use in the classroom will depend entirely on the teachers you are working with. It is probably unlikely that you will know what materials are waiting for you when you arrive, so I personally would suggest bringing any materials with you that you would like to use, since it is likely you will have the chance to use them. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>One thing that is good to have is some kind of rewards to give kids for class participation, since it can be VERY difficult to get kids to interact during class. I brough a ton of scratch and sniff stickers - which the kids found amusing, since they had never seen them before. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Hope that offers some help.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Peter</DIV>

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
[url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=GYnqAqVeUpF29qFIHpEb-SnF4Dl7xkYpgS5TpuS1CMuwZ_y9wOseFNy9pXAYPp7rv93cic82bI22LFU"]philmine1@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?philmine1) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Mon Jan 5, 2004 10:02
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Greetings...</font>
<tt>Hi fellow JET aplicants.

Just a quick note to introduce myself and to say hi and good luck to
everyone hoping to get on the JET programme. I personally had a bit
of a fiasco with my interview time but JET were nice enough to change
my date, so it looks like I still may be climbing Mt Fuji this time
next year!

Take it easy

Phil

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
Matt Griffiths [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=s6QiToo86PbCj35vNdbnHHYuEpDLKY65XdMxep6rjUMhl0xpHsv-KwJ0oZ0VKqPTpkzrHWWt1du2AbPlu195"]dynamisx@b... (ymsgr:sendIM?dynamisx) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Tue Jan 6, 2004 11:43
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: ESID</font>

Every Situation Is Different.


This seems to be the answer to many questions about conditions in Japan, and in my opinion it just adds to the excitement. Of course, I"m sure I"ll feel different if I land in a hell hole.


On the lighter side, I found this JET comic strip extremely amusing (its actually titled ESID), and I think this one is particulary relevent.
http://www.angelfire.com/comics/esid/011202.htm</DIV>


Take it easy,</P>


Matt</P>

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2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
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richardp2020 [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=-SkSKPO_g5Oj5vzvTv5HlhWCYzy9QkCvJBnxmCKZMW-hI3RESYZAGa26sHBJMBByhY8TApETIS2vyK1yLEY"]richardp2020@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?richardp2020) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Jan 7, 2004 3:55
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Edinburgh</font>
<tt>Has anybody else requested Edinburgh as a interview location and if so
has anybody received notification of an interview yet?

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
2004JET@yahoogroups.com </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Jan 7, 2004 4:46
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: New poll for 2004JET</font>
<tt>
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
2004JET group:

Which region would you ideally be liked
to be placed in?

o Hokkaido
o Tohoku
o Kanto
o Chubu
o Kinki/Kansai
o Chogoku
o Shikoku
o Kyushu


To vote, please visit the following web page:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/2004JET/surveys?id=369470

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.

Thanks!

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
[url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=HagrR_0mqrTLbQSbNmk7swFbej_9fkAxXyPZj1Fab3iLRry76_rgdyjwBw4thp0SZfqZZgdERHT9"]philmine1@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?philmine1) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Jan 7, 2004 4:48
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: New Poll</font>
<tt>Hello ladies and gents;

Very bored of revision so thought I"d create a poll to see which
region is the most popular JET destination.

Place your votes now!!!

Take it easy

Phil

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
<a href="ymsgr:sendIM?manshonyagger">http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/online.gif
</a>
Stephen Whaley manshonyagger@y... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=UIv3KJ75cYftVCoZnnqy0meu_kasTA9c4Nc7I-V-hT0XE-5vg9F3G3ISnbioWNa3Cgt8rctdD932otOCsK6lDw) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Jan 7, 2004 6:02
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Edinburgh</font>
<tt>--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=-Ax3Zj88b4pqeUPgv6QbUkjzL7UebdXNFitIv4uJjJEYgmUEgPAq24o8eXJjIWdXWSDceMsMfj49-fJVMeh5WlVe), richardp2020 richardp2020@y... wrote:
Has anybody else requested Edinburgh as a interview location and if so
has anybody received notification of an interview yet?

Yes, me. And no, I haven"t.

Endeavour to persevere.

^_^

Stephen W

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
feenixsf [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=XgJScafxRrNS-llGbduhPFu36-czmuITYOrwdbyjjAhHm5z7lUwtWyUsfEmmR-S1R5FIIo_sCH6wqgMYqg"]richp@c... (ymsgr:sendIM?feenixsf) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Jan 7, 2004 6:12
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Didn"t get a confirmation note? Comments For U.S. applicants</font>
<tt>I just got an email response from an inquiry I sent last week re: not
receiving a confirmation letter. The staff member who responded told
me that the Consulate Office in Washington, D.C. received well over
4000 applications this year. About 1000 of them arrived on the last
day (December 5th). She added that it wasn"t possible for her to
provide a confirmation until they actually get to my application
because searching through the mass of paperwork for a specific name
would be very difficult. The letter would be sent as soon as a staff
member opens my application packet.

If you"re like some of us who submitted an application on the last
day, the reason for the delay is that the JET application committee
is still wading through the mass of applications received. Hang in
there. Most likely, the remaining confirmation letters will start
appearing later this month (January).

Rich

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
Michael Berger [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=DtZ3h5ML_EXkiURj7q2R9hxnkjVjuI1POItvbx2_rLG6t7lWWvCo6obgDnRw98m-BmsE5wprPY-Hmw"]bergmc00@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?bigdudegso) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Jan 7, 2004 6:22
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: RE: [2004JET] Didn"t get a confirmation note? Comments For U.S. applicants</font>
<tt>Did you track your mail once you sent it to the consulate? I did not
receive a confirmation card but I know for a fact that they have received my
application because I continued to track my mail.

Mike


From: feenixsf richp@c... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=xjeSks4qTXpRbbkLbXz6EwV-up0nQ_oP-ij5P1D-oyV0dfmAP_EjuuZ27H3wFgqskHo_hAxP4SvGsVVT)
Reply-To: 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=SUMMqk7OM-GrIar2R45JsIeLlvbO_NIyOCuNov7A1xge7FaTWm5aQ3BV_eb3zZXQ26G9BS8FMHd8lrwnaBpH)
To: 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=SUMMqk7OM-GrIar2R45JsIeLlvbO_NIyOCuNov7A1xge7FaTWm5aQ3BV_eb3zZXQ26G9BS8FMHd8lrwnaBpH)
Subject: [2004JET] Didn"t get a confirmation note? Comments For U.S.
applicants
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 18:12:41 -0000

I just got an email response from an inquiry I sent last week re: not
receiving a confirmation letter. The staff member who responded told
me that the Consulate Office in Washington, D.C. received well over
4000 applications this year. About 1000 of them arrived on the last
day (December 5th). She added that it wasn"t possible for her to
provide a confirmation until they actually get to my application
because searching through the mass of paperwork for a specific name
would be very difficult. The letter would be sent as soon as a staff
member opens my application packet.

If you"re like some of us who submitted an application on the last
day, the reason for the delay is that the JET application committee
is still wading through the mass of applications received. Hang in
there. Most likely, the remaining confirmation letters will start
appearing later this month (January).

Rich



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May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
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David Boyle daveboyle80@y... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=rFHGqXBH8IemOIKewf81l_mSYEa03eFvTfeCeebYyA3n9ttYycxsKLGlIjTy6sD3qHMZhOoXSIKkpYCZLQ) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Wed Jan 7, 2004 8:56
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] Edinburgh</font>

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<DIV>Hi Richard</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Well I applied for an Edinburgh interview but I still haven"t heard anything yet - fingers crossed the wait won"t be much longer!</DIV>
<DIV>good luck</DIV>
<DIV>Dave</DIV>

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May 8th, 2004, 08:50
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</a>
siberakh1 sifertb@h... (/group/2004JET/post?postID=f4Aa17_Tsua8tdciwjFWW8pZO4ieL4pT2OWY5gDTlFPgULlc8XyDR2Xi-wlOFoolc3iGNxBVaoLh1A) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Thu Jan 8, 2004 1:11
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Thanks for the input, now another question</font>
<tt>I would like to thank everyone who responded to my post a little
while ago about not receiving confirmation card yet. Also, thank
you feenixsf for your response from what you found out about the
pile of applications the US embassy in DC received. I found out
today that my application was indeed received in time *wheew* so now
the waiting game continues :D

Hope everyone had a happy holiday season and has avoided the flu.
Would have responded sooner but the strain I got really kicked my
butt! Stay healthy and gets lots of sleep everyone!

Actually, that gives me a great idea for a question. If you get sick
in Japan, how does it work to get to the doctor, with work, etc, esp.
if you get really sick. I was sick enough for over a week that I
couldn"t get to the doctors or to the store for juice or food without
my parents help (I ended up in the hospital for an IV xmas eve for a
few hours from dehydration from the fever) and unable to work for
about 2 weeks I was hit so hard with the flu with secondary
infection. I"m not one to get sick often or that badly (this is the
first time in years!), but figured it"s good to know in case it
should happen. How willing are people to help in such a case (ie.
transportation, check to make sure you are ok, etc if such a case
should arise? How about treatment someone around to help if you are
in a rural placement vs. a more urban setting. Knowing would also
alleviate some worry my mom is having now (understandably).

-Brianne

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
cornycort [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=oRdcVPnw96kR6de7qa-4bJteISaUsuc8c3X0xFk8S_R3kS7u6mpcfRFBPHPYiYLyGzuxn9hmWGzcS3o"]cornycort@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?cornycort) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Thu Jan 8, 2004 3:35
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Thank you letters</font>
<tt>I was following the threads on thank you letters a couple weeks back
and had pretty much decided that although it would be nice to send a
thank you - 1) the interviewers don"t always give their names and
2) the points are given immediately after you leave the room - so it
wasn"t always possible (or helpful) to send a thank you.
Anyway, while looking at some JET websites, I found one that does
recommend thank you notes. I"m not sure I fully understand where he
suggests sending it, but he says (on http://www.umich.edu/%
7Eicenter/overseas/work/jettips.html)

9. Write a prompt thank you note. It goes without saying, but this
is a good opportunity to let the selection folks in Tokyo know
anything you forgot to mention in the interview, cover up rough
spots, and so on.

I normally would write a thank you note for a job interview, so I
was entertaining the idea before reading some of the threads...but
I"m not sure who he"s saying to send it to in Tokyo, CLAIR? Is the
address of those who ultimately decide who makes it in available
somewhere? Since these aren"t the interviewers, I wouldn"t have
even thought to write to them.

Just throwing this out there, though I"m still leaning towards not
sending a thank you...

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
Abigail MacBain [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=vidvPd1YCXNYlvu4xYOt2dF7sCIt77clsSjq0sQ2dCqdvdgYMeZcOsFHKoR4lHbITLZhtuifTTcHN1QR"]hkmercredi@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?hkmercredi) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Thu Jan 8, 2004 4:03
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: [2004JET] Thanks for the input, now another question</font>
<TT>I would like to thank everyone who responded to my post a little
while ago about not receiving confirmation card yet. Also, thank
you "feenixsf" for your response from what you found out about the
pile of applications the US embassy in DC received. I found out
today that my application was indeed received in time *wheew* so now
the waiting game continues :D

Hope everyone had a happy holiday season and has avoided the flu.
Would have responded sooner but the strain I got really kicked my
butt! Stay healthy and gets lots of sleep everyone!

Actually, that gives me a great idea for a question. If you get sick
in Japan, how does it work to get to the doctor, with work, etc, esp.
if you get really sick. I was sick enough for over a week that I
couldn"t get to the doctors or to the store for juice
or food without
my parents help (I ended up in the hospital for an IV xmas eve for a
few hours from dehydration from the fever) and unable to work for
about 2 weeks I was hit so hard with the flu with secondary
infection. I"m not one to get sick often or that badly (this is the
first time in years!), but figured it"s good to know in case it
should happen. How willing are people to help in such a case (ie.
transportation, check to make sure you are ok, etc if such a case
should arise? How about treatment someone around to help if you are
in a rural placement vs. a more urban setting. Knowing would also
alleviate some worry my mom is having now (understandably).

-Brianne
<BR

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
[/url]
feenixsf [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=s4OrdgEReQFdDqf74rXwbK5vILTkLVFqagvS7jJuLPfAbu46rC38DK8SkJaTX3e2pZ3kcOv5Yn9oi4Z-"]richp@c... (ymsgr:sendIM?feenixsf) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Thu Jan 8, 2004 7:30
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Didn"t get a confirmation note? Comments For U.S. applicants</font>
<tt>Absolutely. I sent mine via Fed Ex (a third party courrier service)
and I have a record that the application package was delivered on
time. I even know the name of the consulate staff person who accepted
my package. Ah, the small miracles of of technology...

Rich

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=roaUiSP-I6LskSpUGwwSzlnpj6Ii_8o6Aplb5h1T1h46OWB0WRl9epND0_8uOaldHi8AY2djDN4YZlzYj-X-4qfr), Michael Berger bergmc00@h...
wrote:
Did you track your mail once you sent it to the consulate? I did
not
receive a confirmation card but I know for a fact that they have
received my
application because I continued to track my mail.

Mike


From: feenixsf richp@c...
Reply-To: 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=roaUiSP-I6LskSpUGwwSzlnpj6Ii_8o6Aplb5h1T1h46OWB0WRl9epND0_8uOaldHi8AY2djDN4YZlzYj-X-4qfr)
To: 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=roaUiSP-I6LskSpUGwwSzlnpj6Ii_8o6Aplb5h1T1h46OWB0WRl9epND0_8uOaldHi8AY2djDN4YZlzYj-X-4qfr)
Subject: [2004JET] Didn"t get a confirmation note? Comments For
U.S.
applicants
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 18:12:41 -0000

I just got an email response from an inquiry I sent last week re:
not
receiving a confirmation letter. The staff member who responded
told
me that the Consulate Office in Washington, D.C. received well over
4000 applications this year. About 1000 of them arrived on the last
day (December 5th). She added that it wasn"t possible for her to
provide a confirmation until they actually get to my application
because searching through the mass of paperwork for a specific name
would be very difficult. The letter would be sent as soon as a
staff
member opens my application packet.

If you"re like some of us who submitted an application on the last
day, the reason for the delay is that the JET application committee
is still wading through the mass of applications received. Hang
in
there. Most likely, the remaining confirmation letters will start
appearing later this month (January).

Rich



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May 8th, 2004, 08:50
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Christopher Ling [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=YY5xoO4fBV1EwIYvwG-1EqGUFNx_7karWXO0aUMaM3QLxZQs4ZKsnNaMRZE3JE-_BowEQLPR8AvH_FTAjjhd"]Shinikenshi@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?shinikenshi) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Thu Jan 8, 2004 7:35
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: RE: [2004JET] Thanks for the input, now another question</font>
<tt>I"m not particularly sure how the workplace will handle it if you need to
take off because of sudden illness, but in general, its pretty easy to get
access and help to the hospital.

I remember when I was studying in Sendai a few years back and I cut my wrist
open when I accidentally broke a shower window (long story and no it wasn"t
suicide!). A Korean friend of mine next door called the ambulance for me and
they whisked me away to the hospital a few miles down the road in about
10-15 minutes. And unlike in the U.S., the ambulance ride is free and the
paramedics are very courteous.

Costs of medication and such are also relatively not expensive thanks in
part to the national health insurance you have to pay every month. I never
thought that I would use it but when I did take at advantage of it, it was
quite useful.

As for rural areas...I"m not too sure about that. Sendai was more suburban
than anything else, so I guess if you are in a suburban or urban place,
things are pretty easy.

Chris - wasting time in Japan. woohoo!

I would like to thank everyone who responded to my post a little
while ago about not receiving confirmation card yet. Also, thank
you feenixsf for your response from what you found out about the
pile of applications the US embassy in DC received. I found out
today that my application was indeed received in time *wheew* so now
the waiting game continues :D

Hope everyone had a happy holiday season and has avoided the flu.
Would have responded sooner but the strain I got really kicked my
butt! Stay healthy and gets lots of sleep everyone!

Actually, that gives me a great idea for a question. If you get sick
in Japan, how does it work to get to the doctor, with work, etc, esp.
if you get really sick. I was sick enough for over a week that I
couldn"t get to the doctors or to the store for juice or food without
my parents help (I ended up in the hospital for an IV xmas eve for a
few hours from dehydration from the fever) and unable to work for
about 2 weeks I was hit so hard with the flu with secondary
infection. I"m not one to get sick often or that badly (this is the
first time in years!), but figured it"s good to know in case it
should happen. How willing are people to help in such a case (ie.
transportation, check to make sure you are ok, etc if such a case
should arise? How about treatment someone around to help if you are
in a rural placement vs. a more urban setting. Knowing would also
alleviate some worry my mom is having now (understandably).

-Brianne




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2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
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feenixsf [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=G91Oibrt2CzGzD4zq7M1HX0Rm_KK_3b8zoI-z6xjLnhlO98RNWhbvksRKzBkt_lBs49X0A8501q0ZwVCWJo"]richp@c... (ymsgr:sendIM?feenixsf) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Thu Jan 8, 2004 7:42
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Thanks for the input, now another question</font>
<tt>As you get closer to interview time or acceptance into the program,
I"d suggest to do a little pre-departure homework re the health care
system in Japan. I"ve stumbled over a couple of titles at a Japanese
book store (Kinokuniya) in San Francisco which provides detailed
information about the health care system in Japan... namely the
services provided and an explanation of how to obtain them. All of it
was written for visitors and guests travelling through Japan. I wish
I remembered the titles... but perhaps one of the shop keepers in
your area will be knowledgeable enough to point you in the right
direction for your search.

If you have any special health needs, please take the time to find
out how they can be provided while you are abroad. I plan to wear an
ID bracelet of some sort for my medical needs. It may also be helpful
to carry the name and contact number for your primary care physician
back in your hometown in case the doctors in Japan need more
information about your medical history/background.

Rich

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=PykYDPiLl7vHL9Gjf78L6bYtN3ElRJHx2ei1qJj3m035nGYYbEPYv-x8D30_eo-D4RB5e0GZUjdHEn1IarMwef_W), siberakh1 sifertb@h... wrote:
I would like to thank everyone who responded to my post a little
while ago about not receiving confirmation card yet. Also, thank
you feenixsf for your response from what you found out about the
pile of applications the US embassy in DC received. I found out
today that my application was indeed received in time *wheew* so
now
the waiting game continues :D

Hope everyone had a happy holiday season and has avoided the flu.
Would have responded sooner but the strain I got really kicked my
butt! Stay healthy and gets lots of sleep everyone!

Actually, that gives me a great idea for a question. If you get
sick
in Japan, how does it work to get to the doctor, with work, etc,
esp.
if you get really sick. I was sick enough for over a week that I
couldn"t get to the doctors or to the store for juice or food
without
my parents help (I ended up in the hospital for an IV xmas eve for
a
few hours from dehydration from the fever) and unable to work for
about 2 weeks I was hit so hard with the flu with secondary
infection. I"m not one to get sick often or that badly (this is
the
first time in years!), but figured it"s good to know in case it
should happen. How willing are people to help in such a case (ie.
transportation, check to make sure you are ok, etc if such a case
should arise? How about treatment someone around to help if you
are
in a rural placement vs. a more urban setting. Knowing would also
alleviate some worry my mom is having now (understandably).

-Brianne

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
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sjsamurai007 [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=rKFh_nJY3wKDNome5bQwl7CuDBisDs187nuSh-Jc-o22Cr59-JUHqzeh0P8oWudLr-c51UGRGDJkJWS_5OsZ"]TomMiskey@h... (ymsgr:sendIM?sjsamurai007) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Thu Jan 8, 2004 9:36
am</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: Thanks for the input, now another question</font>
<tt>As far as sick days go, your school will give you a certain number
of them for the year. 10 is typical, but it may vary... it will be
in your contract. If you get sick, just call in to your school and
let them know. At my school, if you were out for more than 2 days
in a row, you needed a doctor"s note to prove that you were really
that sick. I never was, and so never visited the hospital in my
town. If you need help getting to the doctor, or with translation,
your supervisor or one of the JTEs you work with will surely help
you out.

Note that using all or most of your alloted sick days is considered
poor manners/lazy for Japanese people. Many of them will come to
work even if sick, in order to avoid this. If they are too sick to
come, they"ll sometimes use their vacation days instead of their
remaining sick days, in order to avoid the embarassment.

You will be enrolled in the Japanese health care system, whether you
want to be or not. You"ll have no choice of programs or coverage...
it"s 1 size fits all . The payments for the insurance will
automatically be deducted from your wages.

2004JET
May 8th, 2004, 08:50
From:
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Luke [url="/group/2004JET/post?postID=dSvZkSanKKnNoAjgNfLxFbCMD1Z3ig3OiSnbdOMu1TTnK9fiKpIWOBFvlxDTH6-gp4IHSkT4GROOkRexQIDA"]redivider2003@y... (ymsgr:sendIM?redivider2003) </font>
<font size="-0">Date: Thu Jan 8, 2004 12:53
pm</font>
<font size="-0">Subject: Re: General JET Info</font>
<tt>Nice one Peter - cheers.

--- In 2004JET@yahoogroups.com (/group/2004JET/post?postID=azHHiA0UJoZrPMPKc-Z0ygOvm2H-Gisup6ILmXSENhfNRc5_jiGWmYj0-JzpBLqeGbI_3s0sGBHSKcLSQny9pg), Peter Honigmann Jr
foleyhonigmann@s... wrote:
Luke:

You asked some specific questions, and I thought I would provide
you with my take on them.

First, it is true that for the most part the JETs are not teaching
in the usual sense. My experience, and that of most other JETs I
knew was about the same. As an ALT/AET, whatever they call it these
days, you are most often used to read passages to help students with
their pronunciation, you will introduce yourself countless times
(and if you are a one-shot like I was, visiting 40 different junior
highs, you will do it even more), and you may be asked to assist
with creating lesson plans or at least might get some input on what
topics should be covered.

If you are lucky, you may get to actually teach. This depends on
the teachers you are working with, the quality of the school you are
at, and your relationship with the Japanese instructors. I would
suggest that if you want to teach that you may be able to do so in
the English club. If you talk to the teacher in charge of the club
you may be able to do quite a bit of teaching there, and with
students who have a genuine interest in learning.

- would you say you had any teaching experience before you went
that eased the transition, or were you completely new to it?

When I went over I had none. And based on what we were generally
required to do it wasn"t necessary anyway. I would say more
important is to learn some basic Japanese as fast as possible. The
reason for this is much discussion and comments will occur in the
classroom in Japanese, and it will be impossible for the teacher to
keep you completely up to date on what is being said. By
understanding the basics you will learn how the class feels about
you and what kind of things they are saying about you.

- are there prefecture-gatherings organised?

JET has various meetings which they will require that you attend,
and for which they will provide money for travel (at least they used
to when I was there in "95-"96). You need to also stay in touch
with the local JETs who will have their own gatherings much more
frequently and which will provide you with a lot of helpful
information about the area, culture, and the language.

- is the cost of living in Japan so high that it makes it
difficult
to save? Did you intend to save, if so, were you able to?

I did not find this to be the case. Assuming that most of your
rent is subsidized, you should be able to live quite nicely. Most
people I knew were able to save money, pay bills at home and/or
travel abroad. This situation can also be helped if you give private
lessons. While this is officially frowned upon by JET, most teachers
and people you work with do not seem to care and may be interested
in actually having private lessons. I know a few people who made a
LOT of money doing extra teaching.

- two years appears to be the average stay with JET - do people
have
the option to change prefecture after the 1st?

While you do have the option of changing your location, I
understand that it can be very difficult. One reason for this is
that the place you began working at may become quite unhappy with
the fact that you want to leave. They may feel betrayed, and no
matter how you explain it to them it can leave them very unhappy
with you. But I have heard of people who did do it and enjoyed the
change. It is just something you may want to consider carefully
before doing, because if it does not work out and you want to stay,
the situation may become very uncomfortable for you.

- is travelling abroad during holidays is discouraged, especially
places such as Thailand - did you get a chance to do some out-of-
Japan travelling i.e. China / Korea...?

This depends on where you work. Technically it should not matter
to them what you do with your time when you have holidays, but some
schools and offices may try to influence your decisions. I know some
JETs who would simply tell their supervisor that they were going
somewhere within Japan and then travel abroad just to make things
easier at work.

- what did you do after leaving JET - was it influenced by your
time
in Japanese schools or even Japan?

What you choose to do with this experience is really up to you. I
have not really used it in my job, but I do teach basic Japanese
language courses at local park districts and also help out at JET
events when I can to promote the program. Of course some people
leave the program but choose to stay in Japan forever, and then
others come back and work for Japanese companies. It really depends
on what you make of it.

- would you recommend bringing teaching materials with you - to
make
things less stressful... magazine cut-outs, music tapes, film
footage... or are these banned from the classroom?

What you will be allowed to use in the classroom will depend
entirely on the teachers you are working with. It is probably
unlikely that you will know what materials are waiting for you when
you arrive, so I personally would suggest bringing any materials
with you that you would like to use, since it is likely you will
have the chance to use them.

One thing that is good to have is some kind of rewards to give
kids for class participation, since it can be VERY difficult to get
kids to interact during class. I brough a ton of scratch and sniff
stickers - which the kids found amusing, since they had never seen
them before.

Hope that offers some help.

Peter