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elleohelle
May 8th, 2009, 14:45
In attempt to distract myself while I wait to hear about my placement, I thought I'd make a master post (if that's okay?) about non-JET options. Feel free to add comments on different schools/hiring programs. If someone was interested in making this a stickie, I'm more than happy to keep editing it when people comment on various schools. I would like to keep a list of the pluses and minuses for each school and program :)

Eikaiwa
Aeon/Amity (http://www.aeonet.com/) -Seems to have the best reputation of all the Eikaiwas. With Aeon, you teach adults and child, while with Amity you teach only children. Amity pays more.
ECC (http://recruiting.ecc.co.jp/) - Has a good reputation
Gaba (http://careers.gaba.co.jp/)- Involves one-on-one tutoring, will not help you with your visa. Maybe better for time work rather than full time.
GEOS (http://www.geoscareer.com)
WinBe (http://www.tact-net.jp/winbe/english/)
Peppy Kids Club (http://www.ittti.com/)
Shane English School (http://www.shane.co.jp/)- Requires teaching experience or TESOL certification, but pays for part of your flight
Kohgakusha Co., Ltd. (http://www.kohgakusha-e.com/careers.php)
James English Schools (http://www.jesjapan.com/) -Placement in Tohoku region. I was impressed by their website.

ALT
Function like JET, place you in schools based on requests. Downside is these companies lack the support CLAIR and MEXT provide,pay less, and don't provide as many benefits.
Interac (https://www.interacnetwork.com/recruit/)
Heart (http://www.heart-school.jp/en/applications/index.html)
RCS (http://www.rcs-ed.jp/en/index.htm)
Altia Central (http://recruiting.altmoot.com/)
Selti (http://www.selti.co.jp/recruit.htm)
Westgate (http://www.westgate.co.jp/application/)
Borderlink (http://www.borderlink.co.jp/en/index.html)

Other
Labo Intern Program (http://labo-exchange.com/intern.html)
Really great program! You only need one year of college for this and it involves working with young children. You get to see a lot of Japan since you move at least twice on the program. You live with a host family the entire time, have the chance to do an independent study project, and flight is paid. People haven't heard of this program, but it's really great.
Princeton in Asia Program (http://piaweb.princeton.edu/) Offers programs teaching English or interning in all of Asia

Outside Japan
Korea
*Paid flight standard
*Set up housing standard
*Won is very weak, so difficult to pay off loans
-EPIK- ALT program set up by the Korean government. Rural placement in South Korea. Similar to JET but quicker, less bureaucratic application process.
-Hagwons (Eikaiwas)

Taiwan
Hess English School (http://www.hess.com.tw/en/)

China


Useful websites
Eslcafe (http://eslcafe.com/)
Eikaiwa Wiki (http://letsjapan.org/wiki/Main_Page)
Gaijinpot (http://www.gaijinpot.com)
Ohayosensei (http://www.ohayosensei.com/)

Also consider applying for a Fulbright English teaching assistantship. The process is a lot like JET, but slightly more academically oriented (your grades need to be decent). There are programs in South Korea, Thailand, Taiwan, France, Germany, South Africa, and others. Keep in mind that once you win one, you cannot win a Fulbright again.

Neb
May 8th, 2009, 15:04
Should add links to the aforementioned alternatives...
Peppy Kids Club (Eikaiwa)
http://www.ittti.com/index.html

elleohelle
May 8th, 2009, 15:10
I forgot that one! And I've heard good things about that school, too.

loljapan
May 8th, 2009, 16:40
NOVA is still around:073:

Lee
May 8th, 2009, 18:11
if you're gonna do this, add links and descriptions and what not plz

Langus
May 8th, 2009, 18:32
Better yet, people could just refer to the thread that already talks about this (with links):

http://www.ithinkimlost.com/showthread.php?t=5263

elleohelle
May 8th, 2009, 23:58
@Langus- only a few schools are mentioned- I was hoping to make this a master thread

@Lee- I will add links, but I don't know tons about each school, so everyone is welcome to add comments.

Eira
May 9th, 2009, 00:55
http://letsjapan.org/wiki/Main_Page

I don't think all of the schools have links, but there are some (biased?) reviews.

Langus
May 9th, 2009, 01:36
@Langus- only a few schools are mentioned- I was hoping to make this a master thread

I guess the 'Search Forum' option was broken.

elleohelle
May 9th, 2009, 03:10
I guess you are entitled to be a jerk about things, but I was honestly trying to be helpful. Enjoy being "resident smartass."

Langus
May 10th, 2009, 09:13
I am and I do.

elleohelle
May 13th, 2009, 07:19
I added info about the Labo Intern program. If you like working with kids and are willing to do a homestay, this may be a good choice. Check it out, you only need one year of college to go!

Wakatta
May 13th, 2009, 18:14
Better yet, people could just refer to the thread that already talks about this (with links):

http://www.ithinkimlost.com/showthread.php?t=5263

This thread is superior to the old thread that Langus linked to! It should eclipse the previous one. KBECKERのは一番!

Racist Hello Kitty Chan, please do not allow your feelings to be hurt by Langus' criticism! Though she is hot and otherwise pretty cool, and sports a Strongbad avatar, she is in this case a bit too acidic.

Oh, I can't stay mad at you, Langus. WE HAD THAT LIGHTSWITCH INSTALLED FOR YOU SO YOU COULD TURN THE LIGHTS ON AND OFF!

Pip
May 13th, 2009, 22:56
I added info about the Labo Intern program. If you like working with kids and are willing to do a homestay, this may be a good choice. Check it out, you only need one year of college to go!

I did the teen exchange thing with Labo twice. They're nice people, and their interns generally seemed to have a good time. You basically hop from homestay to homestay every month and assist with the local Labo groups, which are sort of like co-ed language Brownies. They sing songs with the CDs until the English is beaten into their brains - no grammar instruction. The intern I knew was happy with the program, except that he picked up his Japanese in such a diverse bunch of locations, he got a lot of ribbing about his grab-bag of accents/regional colloquialisms.
You will learn to hate those CDs, though. I can still hear "John Brown's baby's got a boil upon his back" in my nightmares.

elleohelle
May 14th, 2009, 00:48
I decided not to apply because the idea of living with my boss concerned me a bit. But, it's a great, well organized program. I did a labo homestay twice too. Once in Kanazawa, once in Toyama.

wicket
May 14th, 2009, 00:52
hmmm... why would kbecker take such an interest in these alternative programs if she were shortlisted as a JET? seems more the kind of thing either an alternate or an unsuccessful candidate would spend time on.

or is it just me?

elleohelle
May 14th, 2009, 00:53
to be helpful? I got rejected from something before JET and I know how much it sucks. I feel bad for putting down JET when so many alternates really would love to do it. I honestly am trying to be helpful and use my worrying time constructively.

Paladia
May 14th, 2009, 07:06
WORD OF WARNING ABOUT THE FULBRIGHT GRANTS!!!!

If you are accepted for a Fulbright teaching fellowship and go, you will be unable to apply for a Fulbright full grant in the future, even in a different country.
This is all well and good if you do not want to get into Academia, but if you have any thought in your mind of doing a full Fulbright in any country, do NOT apply to the teaching fellowship.

elleohelle
May 14th, 2009, 07:27
Well you can apply for doctoral grant, Fulbright-Hays.
But this is an important point to consider!

tenderRondo
May 14th, 2009, 09:15
hmmm... why would kbecker take such an interest in these alternative programs if she were shortlisted as a JET? seems more the kind of thing either an alternate or an unsuccessful candidate would spend time on.

or is it just me?

You hit the nail on the head there boss. It is terrible that someone who has been short listed would spend time helping other people on this forum. It would be like if someone who is no longer on the JET program spent their time trying to give advice about it to others! CRAZY!!!!!!!

cvmurrieta
May 14th, 2009, 12:46
Yeah, perish the thought that we actually have altruistic people in this world.

Maybe we should ask Mr. Hat what he thinks............

elleohelle
May 14th, 2009, 12:47
My motivations are not completely altruistic :) I need a distraction from school. :D

Langus
May 14th, 2009, 13:19
This thread is superior to the old thread that Langus linked to! It should eclipse the previous one. KBECKERのは一番!

Racist Hello Kitty Chan, please do not allow your feelings to be hurt by Langus' criticism! Though she is hot and otherwise pretty cool, and sports a Strongbad avatar, she is in this case a bit too acidic.

Oh, I can't stay mad at you, Langus. WE HAD THAT LIGHTSWITCH INSTALLED FOR YOU SO YOU COULD TURN THE LIGHTS ON AND OFF!

Yes! It was time The Cheat made a comeback. How I adore his songs about not living at 21 Jump Street. Can't get enough of that little guy ;) Let's have our own glowstick rave in honour of his awesomeness!

Edit: Wait, so kbecker ISN'T going on JET because she accepted a Fulbright scholarship? Is this what I'm understanding?

cm2jr4
May 15th, 2009, 12:50
i think she is doing JET, otherwise she probably would have left the board already.

kiwimusume
May 23rd, 2009, 19:13
hmmm... why would kbecker take such an interest in these alternative programs if she were shortlisted as a JET?

In case she gets placed in rural Hokkaido? :P

Neb
May 23rd, 2009, 19:16
Why'd she change her name... :|

Langus
May 24th, 2009, 15:24
doo doo dooo doo dooo....

elleohelle
May 24th, 2009, 16:14
Could you please leave the discussion of my username to another thread? I really did start this thread to help out alternates and others, and all these other comments are not useful. If you want to talk about my username or my motivations for this thread, feel free start a topic in Anything Goes, VIP, or PM me. Thank you. I really am trying to add more additional information and make this a detailed thread for people turned down by JET or researching other options. I appreciate any additional insights or organizations.

SSJup81
June 15th, 2009, 16:06
Sorry for bumping this thread, but I was wondering if anyone here has worked with James English School? It sounds like a nice set up and I've heard decent things about it, but they were mostly old. Anyone work with them recently?

cvmurrieta
June 17th, 2009, 13:59
Sorry for bumping this thread, but I was wondering if anyone here has worked with James English School? It sounds like a nice set up and I've heard decent things about it, but they were mostly old. Anyone work with them recently?

I haven't worked for them, but I have applied to them twice since they have schools throughout the Tohoku area. Right now on gaijinpot they are only accepting overseas applications.

elleohelle
June 17th, 2009, 14:44
I have a good friend working for American Language School. If you are interested, PM me. :) She's really loving her job.

mteacher80
June 17th, 2009, 15:45
have any of you subscribed to ohayosensei newsletter? its a great sourse for english teaching jobs in japan

O-Hayo Sensei: The Newsletter of (Teaching) Jobs in Japan (http://www.ohayosensei.com/)

cvmurrieta
June 17th, 2009, 16:28
have any of you subscribed to ohayosensei newsletter? its a great sourse for english teaching jobs in japan

O-Hayo Sensei: The Newsletter of (Teaching) Jobs in Japan (http://www.ohayosensei.com/)

I am doing that; but, alas, no other jobs offers as of yet.

SSJup81
June 18th, 2009, 23:13
I haven't worked for them, but I have applied to them twice since they have schools throughout the Tohoku area. Right now on gaijinpot they are only accepting overseas applications.Alrighty. I can only hope for the best then. ^^

cvmurrieta
June 19th, 2009, 10:10
Alrighty. I can only hope for the best then. ^^

Well, remember that looking for a job is a lot like dating. You may be an excellent person, but the other person you are with can dismiss you for some "perceived" flaw.

Here I am a CIR, and even I am scrambling to find something in this "flooded" market. I am surprised Glenski hasn't been on here shoving that word down our throats.

Ini
June 19th, 2009, 10:33
Have you tried contacting BOEs directly?

cvmurrieta
June 19th, 2009, 10:36
Have you tried contacting BOEs directly?

That's a good idea. How would I go about doing that? Just send in my Japanese resume to them? Wouldn't it be better if I have an introduction from a Japanese person affiliated with them?

Ini
June 19th, 2009, 13:13
Sending off japanese resumes is a must, if you can get some kind of recomendation from somebody then all the better. Like most things in life its not what you know, its who you know

triumphtr79
October 23rd, 2009, 06:38
Gaba (http://careers.gaba.co.jp/)- Involves one-on-one tutoring, will not help you with your visa. Maybe better for time work rather than full time.


If I'm not mistaken, I've recently seen Gaba job postings for applicants outside Japan. Wouldn't this mean they have to help with your visa?

Their website makes Gaba to sound like the ideal job: work when you want, make as much money as you have time, live in a big city.
I somehow don't think it would be that easy, and I wouldn't want to go over there without a guaranteed monthly income, especially in the big cities!

I can only see Gaba as a good opportunity if you have a steady job already and want to make some more money on the side.