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hurla
January 11th, 2005, 18:45
reading through this forum, I get the feeling that there's a difference in opinion on how easy or difficult it is to get accepted into JET.

In case I don't get accepted, I'm looking for good alternatives. I've heard NOVA is good. Does anyone have recommendations for other programs/companies for new teachers in Japan?

Pandilex
January 11th, 2005, 20:32
I heard nova is BAAAAD.

From people on this forum, people on other forums, and my Japanese teacher (who is from Tokyo).

She told me to look in The Guardian on Tuesdays (if you live in the UK) because they have a section (students or jobs or something I forget) that often has advertisments for jobs abroad, including Japan. I bought it once to see (cheap because the uni subsidises newspaper costs or something) and indeed it does.

She also told me to be careful because not all schools are reputable, so I should ask her advice if I want to follow it up.

So my advice to you is, if you don't get accepted and are stlil passionate about going, comb the newspapers for jobs and find someone native japanese to ask about the schools, in case they are a big no-no.

Also try to find people that have done this previously to ask for advice from.

shinjukudude
January 11th, 2005, 20:44
I heard nova is BAAAAD.

i would have to kinda(just little) disagree with you on that... when it comes to NOVA its a ESID some NOVA schools have great working conditions and staff while others have really bad working condition and really horrible staff so with NOVA its the luck of the draw.

Some choices? hmm...you might want to check out ECC/ECC Junior or AOEN or which i think is a better option go to www.gaijinpot.com they lists of jobs with little/private English school and also ALT jobs BUT stay clear of INTERAC their locations may sound great but the company is f**ked often you pay comes late(like a month or 2) and stuff like that. Aaa...if you dont mind living in Okayama Prefecture i know Kurashiki cities BOE offer ALT Positions i cant remeber the details so you might want to check it out.

well....i hope this helped

nicklad
January 12th, 2005, 12:23
and find someone native japanese to ask about the schools, in case they are a big no-no.



I would suggest that even if the school maybe a no-no it would still be a good idea to take the job. Firstly becuase any school is better than no school, but most importantly because it gets you here and on a visa. Then you can look for jobs far more effectively and with a higher probablility of success than if you were still in blighty or the Bush empire.

dobharrison
January 12th, 2005, 13:23
Kurashiki cities BOE offer ALT Positions i cant remeber the details so you might want to check it out.

That's cool; Kurashiki is a lovely city and Okayama is close by to go shopping! I went to both last weekend and had a great time.

shinjukudude
January 12th, 2005, 16:14
http://www.city.kurashiki.okayama.jp/kyosido/hiring/program_information.htm

Here's a link you might want to check it out...the websites changed since i last saw it before it details about pay and interview stuff etc...(maybe im blind?looking in the wrong place for those details?)

Easy
January 13th, 2005, 03:13
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nicklad
January 13th, 2005, 10:06
Teaching solo is so much better.

Easy
January 13th, 2005, 12:14
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nicklad
January 13th, 2005, 14:01
I much prefer it and the students seem to respond better, like they have a stake in the class that they didnt have with a Japanese teacher there.

When your solo its YOUR class.

I cannot translate for them in the way that the JTE casn but in every other respect I find solo teaching more enjoyable and more productive due to increased genkiness in the wee ones.

adammoogle
January 13th, 2005, 17:16
its all a personal preference i'd say

and it depends how your jte is with team teaching, i mean some just do a normal lesson and have you reading from the text book

some its a tagteam deal where you take it in turns to teach, some split the class and you effectively have 2 classes going on at the same time, and then you get the decent team teachers that u have a good relationship with, make jokes together, do skits and generally work as you should as a team, complementing each other...

personally i've found these lessons to be the best i've had and the kids have responded best to those (and i've felt theve learned the most)

solo wise i find its a novelty for the kids to have the alt as the teacher which gets them all genki but actually teaching wise, unless your japanese is fairly decent its difficult to really teach well...

Fyrey
January 13th, 2005, 17:21
I had to go to an Enkai last night with some Japanese folks and there was a foreign private school teacher there.

They all seem to have a rough deal, and in my humble experience are complete pricks.

Not to mention have a thinly veiled dislike for JETs...

AtomicYak
January 14th, 2005, 01:06
Yeah.....all of them.

socalDave
January 14th, 2005, 08:04
Other than getting slightly paid more, why would the non-JETs dislike JETs?

nicklad
January 14th, 2005, 10:34
Because they didnt get accepted?

Fyrey
January 14th, 2005, 11:01
Other than getting slightly paid more, why would the non-JETs dislike JETs?

Well as nicklad said, a lot of them are non successful JET applicants (thats a nice way of saying reject). And I don't think its a case of slightly less paid - it actually works out to be a lot of money when you factor in paid airfares, subsidised accommodation, various conferences and tax concessions. This is without mentioning that JETs are bona fide government employees who have some official backing in various situations - i.e the boe can and will be the guarantor for many things ranging from bank accounts to apartments. I mean, our bank accounts are set up for us - regular ALTs don't always get that luxury - not to mention the effortless work visas, the (relatively) great support networks and so on. JETs don't have a union as such, but we do have CLAIR and AJET which I believe does work out better than nothing.

Additionally its hard for us to get fired - i mean its beating/abusing a student hard to get fired - whereas the private school ALTs all have strict files kept on them - so I heard from another JET who used to be one - which will be used in a Agent Smith/Neo style meeting come dismissal time.

So, really there are a number of reasons for this dislike, call it jealousy if you will.

Easy
January 14th, 2005, 12:00
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bigredgoofball
January 19th, 2005, 06:35
The big thing that makes me want to go JET over the Eikawas is the business aspect of language schools like NOVA and GEOS, etc. They're businesses, and often the teachers in those schools end up doing as much selling as teaching.

JET eliminates that problem, giving its teachers more time and energy to focus on the langauge, and the Cultural Exchange part of the process, whereas the language schools tend to discourage outside interaction with students. It's that cultural exchange, and the focus on education that really are the highlights of JET for me.

And the pay/benefits aren't bad, either. :wink:

socalDave
January 19th, 2005, 07:30
Fuck selling if the job doesn't/shouldn't require it... Teaching is a job that shouldn't require selling and that's the main reason I'm for JET instead of an eikawa.

Shotokai
January 19th, 2005, 08:38
nova pay = 16,000 GBP
Jet Pay= 19,000 GBP

Nova holiday = 10days
JET holiday= 20 (plus bank holidays and time off at schools discretion)

Nova aint all that bad, but if you want benefits like good pay, nenkyu, daikyu, health care, then go to JET. it's run by the government for Pete's sake. it has to be good.

Cantdosleepflower
January 19th, 2005, 09:06
JET eliminates that problem, giving its teachers more time and energy to focus on the language, and the Cultural Exchange part of the process, whereas the language schools tend to discourage outside interaction with students. It's that cultural exchange, and the focus on education that really are the highlights of JET for me.




Hahaha! Check this guy out! You're as indoctrinated as my dad is with IBM.

dobharrison
January 19th, 2005, 09:13
Shame on you for doubting The Word, Cantdo!!! Shame! :x

hurla
January 19th, 2005, 23:36
while I'm on the subject. I've also heard that January until March is the prime recruitment time if you are seeking employment as a teacher in Japan. Is this true? Should I be actively applying for alternatives to JET right NOW ?

socalDave
January 21st, 2005, 06:10
According to what Nova/Geos/ECC recruiters told me, just apply for 2~3 months prior to when you want to work. They never said anything about an application window though...

shinjukudude
January 21st, 2005, 07:00
hurla,

Its true but not just for English teachers its right across the board as far as job recruitment goes i.e. office work too and employment usually starts in April.

The big 5 English schools like NOVA etc... recruit all year round due to their large number of schools and the fact the average teacher at their schools only stay 1 or 2 years or less(i.e. found better jobs). Also Private English schools also recruit year round however this goes for some of the big schools too the bulk of recruitment is in the time frame you mentioned.

nicklad
January 21st, 2005, 14:53
I have noticed a sizable number of female Russians here in Japan.

Perhaps it may be an option to ask them what they do in Japan and see if this line of employment might be a realistic alternative to JET.

VanderDrama
January 25th, 2005, 15:07
many peoples seem to think that teaching solo is *THE* mint deal. as a JET who has the weiiiiiiiiiiird situtation of only teaching shogakko (without the aid of a JTE) let me assure you that while, yes, it can be fun planning your own lessons....it's shit loads of work. you have to develop a curriculum, invent lessons, write lesson plans, make visual aids, worksheets and meet one-on-one (IF you're at a "good" school) with the homeroom teachers so they can hopefully understand what you will be teaching. then you have to teach it. you have no textbook to help you. no JTE to help. nothing. be prepared to pull lots of stuff out your ass. ganbatte.

Mere
January 25th, 2005, 15:35
You can also check gaijinpot.com for non-teaching (as well as teaching) jobs in Japan. There's lots of companies/places of business that don't have a teaching emphasis (if teaching really isn't your thing) if you have a good grasp of Japanese.

I've met non-native Japanese working at bars/clubs, the Outback restaurant (in Nagoya, the foreigner's hangout), and seen lots of postings for companies looking SPECIFICALLY for people from Australia or the U.S.A. to work for them.

Do some research. JET is far from the last stop in working/living in Japan.

Echigo
February 13th, 2009, 19:24
You can also try this new site - Japan Jobs: JobCube (http://jobcube.com/) but it seems to be IT heavy at the moment. The American chamber of commerce runs a site as well, but the name escapes me at the moment. Try googling it.