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mtreecorner
October 1st, 2011, 08:08
I was talking to a friend about applying and she speculated that this year might be easier to get in becuase of the earthquake/radiation issue.

What does everyone think? I could care less but, and this is all purely speculation, anyone think the numbers might be lower this year? More non recontracts?

Maybe they will be higher?

Speculate away!

patjs
October 1st, 2011, 10:52
I could be overestimating the intelligence of applicants but I think most people should know that most things are pretty much back to normal in Japan outside the areas directly hit.

Then again I think some people still believe Japan is a glowing radioactive wasteland based on the reactions I've gotten..

mtreecorner
October 1st, 2011, 10:59
I could be overestimating the intelligence of applicants but I think most people should know that most things are pretty much back to normal in Japan outside the areas directly hit.

Then again I think some people still believe Japan is a glowing radioactive wasteland based on the reactions I've gotten..

Yeah.

I also want to add: I am more so wondering if people will be scared off by the media, etc. This isn't suppose to come off in the wrong way. I just have heard a few people thinking all the food in Japan is now toxic. :roll:

deadking
October 1st, 2011, 11:09
If anything, I think it'll be higher because of the lack of employment options over the last few years (in the USA specifically). People might see JET as a last resort kind of deal.

uthinkimlost?
October 1st, 2011, 11:37
There's a nobleheart every year.

Speculation won't do anyone much good, and no one has enough information to give a properly reasoned response.

There will be plenty of recontracts.

Jetonabe
October 1st, 2011, 11:42
...but I think most people should know that most things are pretty much back to normal in Japan outside the areas directly hit.



Yeah I'm a 1st year JET in Hyogo and there's no mention of anything earthquake or nuclear related at all. I've been to Tokyo too and it's just business as usual there. Last year was the year for there to be plenty of drop outs I think.

mtreecorner
October 1st, 2011, 11:49
There's a nobleheart every year.

Speculation won't do anyone much good, and no one has enough information to give a properly reasoned response.

There will be plenty of recontracts.

But speculation is so fun (for me anyhow)! What else am I supposed to do when I should be reading for my class. I agree though, I am sure there will be the normal amount of recontracts. Just have seen my fair share of Americans falling into media hype.

The job market is bad though... I am glad I have my job currently.

Froren
October 1st, 2011, 13:39
As said previously, I believe this past year was the crazy year for dropouts, I believe there were a fair amount more upgrades than usual..?

atheistwithfaith
October 1st, 2011, 14:18
Since we have got settled in, not a single JET I know has expressed any concern, fleeting or otherwise, for their safety in regards to the earthquake/nuclear situation.

Based on that anecdotal evidence (albeit tenuous) I would not imagine the recontracting / dropout rate being any different to a normal year. (taking last year as being NOT normal due to the disasters)

Takoyaki
October 1st, 2011, 15:38
I could be overestimating the intelligence of applicants but I think most people should know that most things are pretty much back to normal in Japan outside the areas directly hit.

Then again I think some people still believe Japan is a glowing radioactive wasteland based on the reactions I've gotten..

haha id have to agree, many people iv told i intended on working in japan think im gona end up with a healthy green glow :P

Milanna
October 1st, 2011, 21:11
Wait, people outside of Japan are actually still talking about this? As far as I know, the news of the earthquake/tsunami stopped being big news back in the states after about a month or so (save for the many fund raisers).

Not sure how it's even possible to make worthwhile speculation on this.


I could be overestimating the intelligence of applicants but I think most people should know that most things are pretty much back to normal in Japan outside the areas directly hit.

This. If it were to have any sort of impact on the number of applications, I'd assume it'd be on those who didn't care so much/stand a chance in the first place.

FamilyMart
October 3rd, 2011, 10:01
i'm sure everything's pretty much back to normal out in fukushima, and a sh*t ton load of new folk have come through.

as far as the radiation problem goes... who knows, right? only time will tell. but for now, it's kind of an out of sight, out of mind kinda deal.

anyway, good news for 2012 people that this tsunami/quake/radiation thing happened though, right? chances of getting out to the promised land have gone up significantly!

akihabara, here i come!

Takoyaki
October 3rd, 2011, 10:36
anyway, good news for 2012 people that this tsunami/quake/radiation thing happened though, right? chances of getting out to the promised land have gone up significantly!



i think id die a little inside if i claimed to benefit from that but honestly i though it would have a negative impact on acceptance numbers due to financial constraints

kawaiijutsu
October 3rd, 2011, 15:45
Yeah, here in fuku, many students asked me during my self intro what Americans thought of the radiation(that was a fun discussion), and most are still careful about fruits/veg/milk they buy, but things are pretty much normal.
I don't think the number of applicants this year will be too far off from previous years...especially since I'm pretty sure many who turned down placements last time will be applying again now that time has passed (we were told we could due to the disasters)

Tyr
October 3rd, 2011, 17:47
If anything, I think it'll be higher because of the lack of employment options over the last few years (in the USA specifically). People might see JET as a last resort kind of deal.
I would go with this.
Last year was the year of improved chances due to Fox.

melty
October 3rd, 2011, 20:39
I'm not sure what its like in other embassy/consulates, but in London if there are less good applicants, they say they will just send less JETs to Japan.

(That's what they told me anyway...)

Nak
October 6th, 2011, 13:43
The amount of people recontracting won't change. The people who were bothered by the disaster already had the opportunity to get the Fuk(ushima) out of here.

I'm like 50km from the nuclear plant and everything is business as usual. If you're stupid enough to believe the news and not find out your own info about what's actually going on here we don't want you anyway <3

Takoyaki
October 6th, 2011, 14:15
The amount of people recontracting won't change. The people who were bothered by the disaster already had the opportunity to get the Fuk(ushima) out of here.

I'm like 50km from the nuclear plant and everything is business as usual. If you're stupid enough to believe the news and not find out your own info about what's actually going on here we don't want you anyway <3

You sir (or madam) are legen wait for it dary!

patamon
October 9th, 2011, 02:22
I could be overestimating the intelligence of applicants but I think most people should know that most things are pretty much back to normal in Japan outside the areas directly hit.

Then again I think some people still believe Japan is a glowing radioactive wasteland based on the reactions I've gotten..

My friend falls into the second category. I told her that my husband is planning to apply for JET, and she immediately started talking about OMG RADIATION. Ever since then, she's mentioned it every time we see each other. :\

greengoo
October 13th, 2011, 20:01
Nobody really cares about the radiation. It's off the news so it's not real anymore to people.

What is real is a terrible economy and the prospect of 3-5 years of a steady paycheck with great benefits and super easy work.

FamilyMart
October 14th, 2011, 08:26
Nobody really cares about the radiation. It's off the news so it's not real anymore to people.

What is real is a terrible economy and the prospect of 3-5 years of a steady paycheck with great benefits and super easy work.

kids walkin around with dosimeter doodads around their necks is definitely a sign of nobody caring about radiation. it's a shame people are naive enough to think it's a non issue now. maybe JET should do a better job of notifying future applicants....

fact of the matter is, nobody knows if it's safe or not to be in the immediate area. but if you're going to be anywhere near the power plant, you should understand the risks and prepare to live with them.

coming over to work here is great and all, but i'm just saying them microsomethingsomethings shouldn't be taken too lightly....

miss_doitsu
October 14th, 2011, 21:09
If there were the same amount of people going to Japan still (ie if people didn't care about all that stuff any more) then the Japanese government wouldn't be shelling out cash to send 10,000 people to Japan to boost tourism.

Also, the lack of jobs is not specific to the USA.

Eudox
October 14th, 2011, 21:15
JET is never going to have a problem getting applicants. Tourism is another issue entirely.

miss_doitsu
October 14th, 2011, 21:17
It still comes down to how many people want to go to Japan, no matter what the time length is.

Eudox
October 14th, 2011, 21:32
It still comes down to how many people want to go to Japan, no matter what the time length is.

Sure, but unless there is a limit to how many f*ckwits they let through, there are a large number of weaboos who will happily go to Japan, with very little regard for any potential risk. Tourists are often people, or families, who think a bit more about things before the decide to go. You want to go to Asia? Japan has radiation, why not go to Korea instead? Etc....

miss_doitsu
October 14th, 2011, 22:02
Exactly.
There are (should be???!!) a lot of people who think a bit more about things before going on JET too, and who want to do it not because they love J-pan 4eva but because they want to experience something really great, put something worthwhile on their cv and get some good experience behind them before going to The Real World. Some of these people will be reading the right kind of information about Japan, know that it's not that bad, and still join. Some will be unwashed Daily Mail readers who will look to somewhere else to find what they want to do.

Which brings me to my point- my prediction is that it would be easier to get in this year. Sure, there are very few jobs kicking around but the thing I've been the most surprised at coming to Nintendo is the sheer range of things that I could have done if I hadn't been on JET- all of which are still possible to get in this economy. I think more people will be off doing these other cool things, leaving JET to the die-hard JET dreamers.

Moirica
October 15th, 2011, 00:04
I hope it's easier to get in this year. Not that I don't have a back-up plan of course but I still hope to get on JET. I need to get the hell out of school for a few years, as a student at least since I realize with JET I would still be around schools.

mtreecorner
October 16th, 2011, 07:40
Yeah... People shouldn't really be too worried about the Fukashima plant... but I have run into people who are perplexed why I would go to Japan "now." So, perhaps a number of borderline people might not event think to go.

I think most college seniors have no idea how bad the job market is until they actually leave school... so who knows. But you might have more out of school for a few years people applying.

I hope there are less people applying. Then again, I am sure there would still be a number of people applying to JET even if Godzilla was tearing up the country. The power of weebo is not to be trifled with.

Merkypie
October 16th, 2011, 10:53
I don't know, JET's doing early departure this application season. That might be an incentive to get more applicants and raise competition.

But does that mean early departure = more spots?

Takoyaki
October 16th, 2011, 11:29
I doubt there's more spots, what I was wondering though, for JET's departing in April does your contract still last for a year or does it end in July/Aug with the rest?

Merkypie
October 16th, 2011, 12:21
I'm just going to assume, due to the visa, that the contract would run from April - April rather than July-Aug for the normal departure. Makes the most sense in my head.

I wish the US Embassy would include more information specific to the early departure.

Takoyaki
October 16th, 2011, 13:03
Well the visas JET applicants receive is a 3 year one which is why I was pondering it

But yeah info seems to be fair scarce about it over in aus too >_<

Merkypie
October 16th, 2011, 13:45
Well, if your visa starts in April, I would assume three years later it would end in April ;D

You'd think? Especially since there's a lot more paperwork needed in the packet like background checks and the what not...

Takoyaki
October 16th, 2011, 13:53
Yea I got no idea how it all works. Best wait to see for a current JET to enlighten us =p

Takoyaki
October 16th, 2011, 17:42
You sign one contract April to April and then a second from April to July. Then you sign on the same schedule as July arrivals.

Thanks again RomulusLupin you are all knowing ^_^

Merkypie
October 17th, 2011, 01:02
Ah, thanks RomulusLupin :)!

hunterofpeace
October 17th, 2011, 14:42
Speaking of weebos... I wonder how many applicants like this JET sees each year. =P
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Page
October 17th, 2011, 15:18
Sorry Merky, I'm pretty sure early departure is only available to AU/NZ applicants.

And I think gg meant no one in the US thinks radiation is news anymore, not here. All you have to do is watch that clip about that one wall somewheresomewhere that's being shown every 20 minutes to know that people care here. Or the whiny Tokyo moms who don't want to take rubble from Iwate. etc. etc.

Merkypie
October 17th, 2011, 15:20
Sorry Merky, I'm pretty sure early departure is only available to AU/NZ applicants.

Nope, it's another one of the major updates to the 2012 application for the US this year:

JET Program - Official Website (USA) (http://www.us.emb-japan.go.jp/JET/application_documents.html)

Page
October 17th, 2011, 15:50
Well dayum, that's cool! I wonder if that means current JETs can have an easier go of getting out of contract in Spring.

Gizmotech
October 18th, 2011, 13:06
Why would this year be better than last year? My prefecture had 40 new JETs... out of something like 70 JETs total... I imagine last year was the best year given how many people got called up, and how many people have arrived late so far (1 guy like 2 or 3 weeks ago). This year will likely be business as normal, unemployed, terrified graduates desperate for a paycheck looking for the best cash grab they can get their hands on.

Takoyaki
October 18th, 2011, 13:09
Why would this year be better than last year? My prefecture had 40 new JETs... out of something like 70 JETs total... I imagine last year was the best year given how many people got called up, and how many people have arrived late so far (1 guy like 2 or 3 weeks ago). This year will likely be business as normal, unemployed, terrified graduates desperate for a paycheck looking for the best cash grab they can get their hands on.

Well not if the punters are right about the new tax system being before tax instead of after (however Im still putting it down to lost in translation)

Gizmotech
October 18th, 2011, 13:12
Well not if the punters are right about the new tax system being before tax instead of after (however Im still putting it down to lost in translation)

Being one of those punters :P It's still better paying than flipping burgers at McDonalds :P

Takoyaki
October 18th, 2011, 13:17
Being one of those punters :P It's still better paying than flipping burgers at McDonalds :P
Bahaha having been there I'd have to agree =p

mtreecorner
October 19th, 2011, 04:43
As someone with a job currently... the new pay scale does give me concern. If I was just out of school, I would have no problem... but I'll be taking a pay cut as it is so it does make me think.

So, it may scare off older aspiring JETs but who knows. I doubt it will have a huge affect on the numbers.

Merkypie
October 19th, 2011, 04:46
I don't know anyone with a good paying career that would give it up for a 1 - 5 year stint in Japan making less.

Other than for the "experience". Once the salary gets all explained to the T, there might be people dropping out (i hope). :V

But the hungry broke college graduate probably won't care either way.

mtreecorner
October 19th, 2011, 05:01
I don't know anyone with a good paying career that would give it up for a 1 - 5 year stint in Japan making less.

That would be me... My current career pays very well. I just want something different.

I wanted to work abroad for sometime. Having missed the study abroad boat, I need some experience living in another culture for the career I want to actually have (foreign affairs/IR). I know that JET isn't perfect but it would allow me to reset things a bit.

asilverthread
October 19th, 2011, 05:39
I am in the same boat as well. I'm not really doing it for the money. I'm doing it because I also want something different. Plus I've been wanting to go back to Japan since my high school exchange student days. (If my calculations are correct it would actually be an increase from my teaching job at a public junior high here.)

Rage_and_Hairspray
October 19th, 2011, 17:16
I don't know anyone with a good paying career that would give it up for a 1 - 5 year stint in Japan making less.

Now you know two people, because I would be taking a pay cut to join JET. It is about the experience for me, and also about taking a break from my career.

Merkypie
October 19th, 2011, 18:57
With the state that this economy is in, I'm actually impressed. I don't think I could have been willing to give up my job security for JET.

Rage_and_Hairspray
October 19th, 2011, 19:13
Work has become very quiet, and I would like to live and work abroad. My industry is quite small and specialised, and as I don't plan on burning any bridges should I get a placement, I don't see too much of a problem in finding another job upon my return.

Merkypie
October 19th, 2011, 19:47
Well, that's good news to hear that you have something to come back too. Not many are that lucky... I know that I'm not (my field is specialized, but not that specialized).

Sirrus
October 27th, 2011, 04:20
Would JET be harsher on re-applicants? I'm curious since not much has changed since I applied last year in terms of job, education, etc. I wasn't sure if JET scrutinizes this more with prior applicants and actually wants to see additional changes with people who have applied before. I will be making alterations to my SoP to try to pitch my skills and background in a better light.

mtreecorner
October 27th, 2011, 04:41
Would JET be harsher on re-applicants? I'm curious since not much has changed since I applied last year in terms of job, education, etc. I wasn't sure if JET scrutinizes this more with prior applicants and actually wants to see additional changes with people who have applied before. I will be making alterations to my SoP to try to pitch my skills and background in a better light.

My GUESS would be that they wouldn't be. The other side is reapplying shows you are serious.

asilverthread
October 27th, 2011, 06:59
When they have hundreds of applications to go through, I doubt they are giving much time to look up old applications and comparing them.

Froren
October 28th, 2011, 09:54
I would probably just be prepared for if you get the interview for them to ask you about being a previous applicant. Like what's different for you personally between then and now? How you've changed? etc, etc. They may not ask, but it wouldnt be bad to be prepared.

Ode to a Grasshopper
October 28th, 2011, 18:18
Sorry Merky, I'm pretty sure early departure is only available to AU/NZ applicants.

And I think gg meant no one in the US thinks radiation is news anymore, not here. All you have to do is watch that clip about that one wall somewheresomewhere that's being shown every 20 minutes to know that people care here. Or the whiny Tokyo moms who don't want to take rubble from Iwate. etc. etc.It's still sorta big over here - probably more so away from nice safe Osaka. Tohoku was pretty major and Fukushima was a big part of it. Those scars are going to be around a while.

On the deterrent scale, I'd say we had a fair few drop-outs last year - there were a lot of upgrades. At a rough guess this year will probably be below average, but up from last year. I'd also note the lower pay scale for incoming JETs. So glad I got in last year.

miss_doitsu
October 28th, 2011, 21:56
Nah, JET loves people who re-apply

uthinkimlost?
October 29th, 2011, 09:21
Just ask BigRedGoofball.

atheistwithfaith
October 29th, 2011, 17:57
How many times did he rack up? 3? 4? 5?

uthinkimlost?
October 29th, 2011, 20:01
6, I think.

hunterofpeace
October 30th, 2011, 00:11
Um... so... did he ever make it in?

uthinkimlost?
October 30th, 2011, 00:25
Never made it to interview.

hunterofpeace
October 30th, 2011, 00:29
Oh my. That's.... disheartening.

Merkypie
October 30th, 2011, 03:11
Wow, bro must have been doing something wrong.... 6 times? Well, I guess you can commend him on his tenacity.

miss_doitsu
October 31st, 2011, 19:25
No, he was special. Don't look at his case and think it applies to you.

mtreecorner
November 1st, 2011, 00:09
Well, then. I think I'd only try twice or thrice.

uthinkimlost?
November 1st, 2011, 08:57
Use of the term 'thrice' leads to automatic rejection.

I think BigRedGoofball is a perfect example of standing still and expecting the world to change around you. He applied for JET, did nothing for a year, then was rejected again. Lather, rinse, repeat. He never made modifications to his qualifications, and in the 8 years he's been applying he never made it to Japan with a private company, citing the fact that he did not have the money. (In 8 YEARS.) That reeks of someone too lazy to make substantial changes in their own life. JET loves people who reapply, but if you don't show initiative and are still working in the same retail job you were in 8 years ago there is something wrong.

That said, JET also allows some real mouthbreathers in.

mtreecorner
November 2nd, 2011, 00:29
JET loves people who reapply, but if you don't show initiative and are still working in the same retail job you were in 8 years ago there is something wrong.

That would do it.

Really, if you application reeks of desperation... they can smell that a mile away.

Pani Lisi
November 15th, 2011, 04:45
Won't glowing in the dark save on the electric bill? :lol:

Rz1
November 16th, 2011, 00:00
Use of the term 'thrice' leads to automatic rejection.

I think BigRedGoofball is a perfect example of standing still and expecting the world to change around you. He applied for JET, did nothing for a year, then was rejected again. Lather, rinse, repeat..

Why would you expect to get in a second time if you haven't gained anything?

Merkypie
November 16th, 2011, 00:40
Why would you expect to get in a second time if you haven't gained anything?

Because those type of people believe the selection process is completely random.

Rz1
November 16th, 2011, 02:10
Because those type of people believe the selection process is completely random.

0_O

Merkypie
November 16th, 2011, 02:16
0_O

http://www.ithinkimlost.com/applying-jet/3189-jet-selection-criteria-completely-random.html

Rz1
November 16th, 2011, 02:35
http://www.ithinkimlost.com/applying-jet/3189-jet-selection-criteria-completely-random.html

I like when he says "I do admit that I wasted my time applying since I did not get an interview with JET, but I've focused on positive that I've since received much better interviews ever since. It seems that most of the posters here are the bitter ones."

hunterofpeace
November 16th, 2011, 06:30
I've worked in the same restaurant for 5 years to pay my way through school... I thought it showed loyalty. Didn't realize it could also be interpreted as lack of ambition. Though I suppose my case is different because I'm in a Masters program now.

Takoyaki
November 16th, 2011, 07:53
http://www.ithinkimlost.com/applying-jet/3189-jet-selection-criteria-completely-random.html

Hahahaha that it was hilarious!!

asilverthread
November 16th, 2011, 09:30
I've worked in the same restaurant for 5 years to pay my way through school... I thought it showed loyalty. Didn't realize it could also be interpreted as lack of ambition. Though I suppose my case is different because I'm in a Masters program now.

I think that is fine. I mean as long as you're are progressing with school or in other areas. Plus plenty of people do that- work little jobs to pay through college. I think working some place for five years looks better than working 4 different jobs in two years.


And LAWL at that thread link.

mtreecorner
November 17th, 2011, 14:24
working while in school is one thing...

If you have a BA and aren't pushing yourself outside your comfort zone... that's different.

lexa1010
November 19th, 2011, 00:38
I'm gonna be honest and say that I was too nervous to really apply to jet because I was too lazy (to apply)/had a 6 month unemployment gap after graduation due to depression and I really wasn't comfortable explaining this. I had a tough enough job getting employment over here with having a career break! I knew I wouldn't get through.