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justice
September 10th, 2012, 11:32
At RCS we were told we would be paid a month late, because people just get up and leave Japan.Why do they leave? I thought. Perhaps because they do not get paid? They told us to arrive a month before we start work for the interviews. Yes RCS is a dispatch company, they may accept you via an "interview" over skype, but you do not have a job. Not until you go with them to the board of education and pass that interview. So after three months in Japan, two of which I had been working for RCS I was paid much later than two months, since (RCS said) I did not have a Japanese bank account. To get a Japanese bank account you need to have the appropriate visa. As you see below RCS were acting illegally. As I did not have a visa, I could not open a Japanese bank account.Evidence speaks a thousand words. Here is evidence of RCS breaking Japanese law (note the "personal reason"):


Friday, 20 April 2012, 16:36


Dear ALTs,

Good afternoon!
As you know, we have been in touch with your school to tell them you will not be able to go in on Monday for a personal reason. Please make sure you keep your explanation as simple as that, “a personal reason,” if anyone asks. I doubt anyone will ask, but it is important that you do not talk about your situation with anyone.
At the Tokyo office you can pick up your CoE and take it to immigration. You will likely have to return to immigration after a week or two. They will send you a post card to let you know the visa is ready to be picked up. Let us know when that date is and we will work something out with your school again so you can be absent with no problems. On the rare occasion they will issue the visa on the same day, but it is not very common at all. Good luck though, that would be very lucky and convenient for you. Fingers crossed!

1. Please go to the Tokyo office on Monday (April 23) by 9am. The person you need to speak to will be at the office at 9am (not 8, like I may have told you already, sorry about that!).
2. Immigration has some crazy hours, for example they close at…… for lunch and then close at 4pm for the rest of the afternoon. Not very convenient, especially for a place that gets very busy at times, so please get there early.
3. Make sure you bring your PASSPORT!
4. Directions to the Tokyo office are below and a map is attached to this email.

To the Tokyo office:
Please make your way to Nishi Waseda station on the Fukutoshin line (Tokyo Metro Subway). At Nishi Waseda station, take exit 3. Follow the signs towards Shinjuku Cosmic Sports Center. You will go up one escalator, then turn right and take another escalator up to the street (do not go straight up the second escalator in front of you or you will come out inside the University campus). Once you get to the main street, turn right. You will pass Nishi Waseda University and Shinjuku Cosmic Sports Center. When you reach an intersection where a Sunkus convenience store is located, please cross the street toward Sunkus. Our office is located on the 10th floor of the building that is connected directly to the right of the Sunkus If you reach the Lawson 100 convenience store, you have gone too far. At the glass door please press '1001' and someone will buzz you up. When you exit the elevator on the 10th floor, the front door to the office is directly opposite on the left. Please ring the doorbell on arrival. It takes about 5 minutes after exiting the station to walk here. I have attached a map to this e-mail for you to refer to as well.

Please don’t say anything to immigration about working. They will also probably ask no questions, but if they do just tell them you have been doing tourist things until now and will start your job after your visa is issued.

If you have any questions about this process, please ask the staff at the Tokyo office on Monday morning.

Have a good weekend, I look forward to hearing how things go on Monday!
Sincerely,
J*******

J******* K***

coop52
September 10th, 2012, 12:07
Why haven't you flyjined yet? That sounds shady as fvck

mothy
September 10th, 2012, 16:41
RCS is a shady company? *gasp*

Maybe next time don't accept a teaching gig that pays the same as McDonalds.

Sakurahoshi
September 11th, 2012, 02:23
I've never heard of RCS :confused:, That email they sent you looks so unprofessional. What visa did you use to get to Japan? Surely you couldn't have just gone on a tourist visa if you were job seeking?

UPGRAYEDD
September 11th, 2012, 13:47
Man F this company forever.

They used to straight up send letters to my Shikoku inaka schools addressed to the "ALT" trying to headhunt me to come "leave the inaka and work in Tokyo".

justice
September 11th, 2012, 17:24
Here's the email RCS sent me after I got a proper working visa. That is after working illegally in a Japanese school. RCS committing fraud:

www.rcs-ed.jp (http://www.rcs-ed.jp)

Dear James,
Good morning!
I hope that you are doing well.
I wanted to let you know that I had to re-write your contract with the start date matching your visa start date. You will still be paid for the number of days that you work but I need you to sign this and return it as it needs to match your working visa. The contract went out today and so if you can sign it and return it again as soon as possible that would be great!
If you have any questions or concerns at all, please let me know.
I look forward to hearing from you soon!
Kindest wishes,
D****

J******* K***

Ini
September 11th, 2012, 17:48
Get new job as soon as possible then forward all these emails to your boe, school and immigration

MJN
September 11th, 2012, 20:24
Anyone want to drop some emails to a Japanese newspaper?

mteacher80
September 11th, 2012, 21:01
I already emailed her......no reply yet......

MJN
September 11th, 2012, 22:48
Kindest wishes,
D****

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
J******* K***
RCS Corporation HR


Someone is afoot.

Gezora
September 11th, 2012, 22:53
Anyone want to drop some emails to a Japanese newspaper?

Quick! Someone get JapanToday on the horn!

coop52
September 12th, 2012, 08:11
Someone tell Debito. I'm sure there's someone he can sue about this.

Scrotty
September 12th, 2012, 13:20
these guys are awesome! part of the salary each month is held back as a 'bonus', and they take every opportunity they can to deny the bonus, for example turning up a couple of minutes late for the morning meeting or not turning up to a class even though it wasn't on the schedule

justice
September 12th, 2012, 14:38
I've never heard of RCS :confused:, That email they sent you looks so unprofessional. What visa did you use to get to Japan? Surely you couldn't have just gone on a tourist visa if you were job seeking?

Never heard of RCS?

I will help you out :

To read about how dispatch companies operate:

http://fukuoka.generalunion.org/alt/index.html#ggg

A 2005 complaint about RCS from an exploited former employee:

Job Discussion Forums :: View topic - RCS corporation (http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=27132)

(Note the eslcafe post is dated 2005, it's now 2012 and RCS is still playing the same dirty tricks) here is a short excerpt:
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:13 am Post subject: RCS corporationhttp://forums.eslcafe.com/job/templates/subSilver/images/lang_english/icon_quote.gif (http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/posting.php?mode=quote&p=275170&sid=d5cf1e341e80b583eb568d787a70ab74) A much thought about warning to people who might be thinking of coming to Japan. The RCS corporation of Saitama is to be avoided at all costs.


anyone have any experience with ALT company RCS corporation? (http://forum.gaijinpot.com/showthread.php?96109-anyone-have-any-experience-with-ALT-company-RCS-corporation)

The Dirty Undertaking of Dispatch Companies | Let's Japan.org (http://www.letsjapan.org/the-dirty-undertaking-of-dispatch-companies.html)

RCS (http://www.foreignersassociationinjapan.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=15:rcs&catid=3:disputes&Itemid=11)

ALT (http://tokyogeneralunion.org/issues/alt/)









I've never heard of RCS :confused:, That email they sent you looks so unprofessional. What visa did you use to get to Japan? Surely you couldn't have just gone on a tourist visa if you were job seeking?

Surely you couldn't have just gone on a tourist visa if you were job seeking?

I am not an immigration official. I am sure you can check with them or google that.

That email they sent you looks so unprofessional.

Unprofessional? Hmm, could you clarify what you mean by unprofessional? I don't want to put words into your mouth.

Anyhow, RCS is unprofessional and not to be taken seriously. Unprofesional to not consider the consequences of exploiting people. Unprofessional to write such an email in the first place and think that an employee would feel so intimidated by them that they would not dare to post it on the internet.

Why do I post it? Out of concern for others who are considering going to work for them and doing their due diligence by checking the background of RCS on the internet. It's about empathy for others considering working for RCS, and resentment at how RCS exploited me.

Note when they asked me to arrive: "We hope that you will be able to be in Japan by at least March 16th" in order be there for the interviews with : "take advantage of our temporary housing located in Yorii, Saitama after you arrive." The cost of which is 1000 yen per day, plus food which also comes to at least 1000 yen a day. The temporary housing is actually a room overcrowded with beds, which you share with all the other hopeful ALTs waiting to pass their interview with the board of education, and I knew a few who didn't pass, yet more rent for them to pay and the school year was about to begin, one bathroom to share amongst a dozen others too. You have no wardrobe either, so bring a padlock to safeguard your valuables if you plan on going there.

Subject: Re: RCS Corporation Recruit - how we would like to proceed


Dear James,

Good morning!

I am responding on behalf of J******* as she is currently out of the office.

We are very pleased and look forward to receiving your documents soon.

We will let you know as soon as they have arrived. In the meantime, once you have secured a flight itinerary please send it through to us so that we can prepare for your arrival. We hope that you will be able to be in Japan by at least March 16th.

If you need anything in the meantime, please let me know.

We look forward to working with you soon!

Kindest wishes,

D**** M******* HR
RCS Corporation

Dear James,

Good afternoon!

I hope that you are doing well.

I wanted to let you know that we are very excited to work with you from the new school year starting from April 2012.

I was wondering if you were able to secure your flight ticket. If so, would you be able to send through the intinerary so that we can prepare for your arrival? Also, please let me know if you would like to take advantage of our temporary housing located in Yorii, Saitama after you arrive.

If you have any questions or need anything in the meantime, please let me know.

We greatly look forward to meeting with you and working with you soon!

Kindest wishes,

D****



Dear James,
Thank you for calling this morning, I am sorry it took me a while to wake up and understand what was going on.


Your pay for April will be deposited today. Since your housing fees and rent for June were deducted, it came to 8591 for the total deposit.


Since you said this was urgent though, I want you to know that you can request a loan to be deposited on Monday if necessary. Unfortunately your May salary will not be deposited until the last banking day of June (that`s the 29 this month) and we cannot deposit any earlier.


If you want to take a loan out though, you can fill out and fax the attached form to me before 3pm today. You can request a loan of up to 15,000yen. If you need more than that, please note that we only give out more than 15,000yen if you fax a note explaining why you need more (including words like “transportation fees so I can get to work” usually helps!). I have seem loans of 30,000yen be approved on some very rare occasions, so that`s a number you might want to ask for if you are really in a tight spot.


I hope this helps. Please call me at the office if you have any questions!


-J*******


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


J******* K***


RCS Corporation HR


Yorii Branch Office




Friday, 22 June 2012, 8:32

RCS asked me to arrive "by at least March 16th" which I did.

My first salary payment of 8591 Japanese yen (110 US dollars), was deposited into my Japan Post Bank on :Friday, 22 June 2012, the date of the email.

All that time I was surviving on my dwindling savings:

"Your pay for April will be deposited today. Since your housing fees and rent for June were deducted, it came to 8591 "

Friday, 22 June 2012, 8:32








Salary was overdue and only after dozens of calls did they pay. Their excuse? We have lots of employees.

So I couldn't agree more with you that RCS is unprofessional. As I have shown they are also unscrupulous, deceitful and exploitative. They will never be forgiven or forgotten for what they did to me.

justice
September 12th, 2012, 14:54
Get new job as soon as possible then forward all these emails to your boe, school and immigration


Thank you for your concern.

I have sent a letter to the Ministry of Education in Japan, with all these emails printed out.

I called Japanese immigration after leaving the country, they said that yes RCS acted illegally but that to take action I needed to send a letter to them which I will be doing tomorrow.

I think NHK might be interested as well.

coop52
September 12th, 2012, 22:35
NHK did a special a couple of years back about some dispatch company not properly paying ALTs and not signing them up for insurance like they're supposed to.

justice
September 13th, 2012, 13:28
RCS is a shady company? *gasp*

Maybe next time don't accept a teaching gig that pays the same as McDonalds.

RCS paid me 8591 yen during my time in Japan working for them which came to almost 3 months, at which point I realised they had been cheating me and I had doubts as to whether they were going to pay the overdue salary they owed me for the previous months of work. 8591 yen comes to about 100 yen a day, which is a lot less than McDonalds pays. Bear in mind that the summer vacation was approaching and that RCS does not pay its employees anything during those months. I had read that the BoE pays them but that they keep that money. They decide that your money is our money. And manage to get away with it legally, as far as I know.

I had checked the background of RCS prior to coming to Japan, but I had remained slightly skeptical of the union cases against RCS and all the former employees who were outraged at RCS who had posted comments online. I even believed the testimonials on the RCS website of how great it was to work for them.

"Your pay for April will be deposited today. Since your housing fees and rent for June were deducted, it came to 8591 for the total deposit."
From: D**** Y*** <d******@rcs-ed.jp>

Sent: Tuesday, 3 July 2012, 14:35
Subject: RE: apartment


Dear James,

Good afternoon!

Thank you for responding to us regarding your wellbeing. I am grateful that you are at least getting treatment in Singapore.

As far as your salary, since you did vacate your position and apartment suddenly without any contact (無断欠勤) and since your apartment cancellation is now going through the process of being evaluated by Leo Palace, we do actually have every legal right to hold your salary while these outstanding payments are being calculated. Please understand the conclusion Leo Palace comes to may cause extra fees to be added to the bill for your cancellation. You will receive a breakdown of these fees as well as a summary of any outstanding monies you owe (if this is the case) when the final calculations are determined.

If you would like to visit our Yorii office to discuss this further upon your return to Japan, please let me know when you are looking to arrive and we will set up a meeting with you for that time.

Kindest wishes,

D****




Thanks for your "genuine" concern about my health.


However i wish you showed more concern for your employees in terms of paying me and the other employees their salaries on time. I was ill and it is not illegal to be ill is it ? Or is it illegal in japan to be ill ?


During my almost 3 months in japan working for your company I have earned about 9000 yen which is equal to about 100 yen per day - how do you epxect anybody to survive on that ? Just read the blog and the cases of the trade union on the internet agaisnt your company and no further comments will be necessary it speaks volumes - your company seems to be exploitative abusive of your employees - bordering on Human trafficking. Action will be taken against you with the authorities including your failure to obtain a legal visa prior to my employment . I want by return a complete breakdown of my employment with you including all illegal deductions you have made and how you expect someone to live on 100 yen per day and also pay transportation charges. You have basically defrauded me by all the lies you told me prior to employment . Its completely exploitative and you can expect further action from my legal advisers in Japan. Ministries will be informed including relevant embassies and immigration dept .


So I need you to pay me all monies overdue by immediate return .Pls confirm forthwith



rgds James

UPGRAYEDD
September 13th, 2012, 15:15
I'm confused.

1. How many days did you actually work for RCS?
2. How much was your rent?
3. How much were your housing fees?
4. In what way were your rent and housing deductions illegal?
5. How much salary were you promised in your contract before you came to Japan?
6. Why can't you write English correctly?

justice
September 14th, 2012, 16:45
I'm confused.

1. How many days did you actually work for RCS?
2. How much was your rent?
3. How much were your housing fees?
4. In what way were your rent and housing deductions illegal?
5. How much salary were you promised in your contract before you came to Japan?
6. Why can't you write English correctly?


I'm confused.

1. How many days did you actually work for RCS?

From 9th of April 2012 to June 28th 2012.

2. How much was your rent?

Dear James,





Good morning!





Here is your salary breakdown for May’s salary which was deposited today:





Basic Salary 100,000 yen


Location Allowance 100,000 yen


100% Attendance Bonus 10,000 yen


Total 210,000 yen





Deductions


Income Tax -5,020 yen


July’s Rent -55,520 yen


Move-in Costs (payment 2 of 2) -82,970yen


Koyo Hoken (unemployment insurance) -1,050 yen


Total -144,560 yen





Total Salary Paid 65,440yen





Please let me know if you have any questions.





Kindest wishes,





D****







3. How much were your housing fees?

Move-in Costs (payment 2 of 2) -82,970yen
Multiply that by two so 165940 yen. Is that normal? No I have already checked with other estate agents in Japan whilst I was there and protested to RCS.

4. In what way were your rent and housing deductions illegal?

I am not a lawyer. Neither are you.

They over charged me on the move in costs - 165,940 yen split over two months ie deducted from salary over two months, what I call illegal deductions. I could take them to them to the small claims courts to get these crooks for it.


5. How much salary were you promised in your contract before you came to Japan?

Check the ads they post online for ALT positions.
What they actually pay after all the "deductions" is far less.

What they do not tell you is that the :

Basic Salary 100,000 yen


Location Allowance 100,000 yen

is pro-rated so as I started on 9th of April 2012 (the start of the school term) I did not get the full basic salary or location allowance for the month of April. And after the move in fee of 165,940 yen was deducted I only received 8591 yen and when did I receive it? In the last few days of June due to being unable to open bank account, for reasons already mentioned.(Not having a proper visa).




The contract was not signed or shown to me, before the BoE accepted me for a job, I then signed it in RCS office in Yorii.

6. Why can't you write English correctly?

I hope it makes you feel better as a HUMAN being to ask me that,:).


Although it's not really helpful unless you point out what u mean.

I mean it's really pathetic that I even answer you on that. The reason is coz of the anger I feel while writing about RCS it interferes with my ability to think straight.

UPGRAYEDD
September 14th, 2012, 16:53
Except for the visa thing. You sound like a dick employee.

You got paid a fair wage and there is absolutely nothing abnormal about your move in costs. Why are you surprised about that? Everyone in Japan knows that moving into an apartment can cost up to 4 months worth of rent.

So why are you whining about getting paid 8500 yen? You were clearly paid 170,000 something yen and it all went into your apartment and you would have been paid another 190,000 or so if you bothered to stay another week.

Let it be a lesson to future people reading this thread - do your research about move in costs in Japan and come over with a proper amount of cash saved up.

UPGRAYEDD
September 14th, 2012, 17:05
Anyway post their response to your bad grammar angry rant.

justice
September 14th, 2012, 21:39
Except for the visa thing. You sound like a dick employee.

You got paid a fair wage and there is absolutely nothing abnormal about your move in costs. Why are you surprised about that? Everyone in Japan knows that moving into an apartment can cost up to 4 months worth of rent.

So why are you whining about getting paid 8500 yen? You were clearly paid 170,000 something yen and it all went into your apartment and you would have been paid another 190,000 or so if you bothered to stay another week.

Let it be a lesson to future people reading this thread - do your research about move in costs in Japan and come over with a proper amount of cash saved up.


You sound like a dick employee.

If you say so.

You were clearly paid 170,000 something yen and it all went into your apartment and you would have been paid another 190,000 or so if you bothered to stay another week.

Where did you get those figures from, Wikipedia? Clearly.


Work for April which should have been paid at the end of May (they pay a month late) was 8591 yen.

Work for May , which should have been paid at the end of June was 65,440yen.

Work for June which would have been paid at the end of July would have een :148,000 yen.

Work for July (had I stayed until July, I left just before the end of June) would have been 80,000 yen. Which is paid at the end of August.

" Everyone in Japan knows that moving into an apartment can cost up to 4 months worth of rent. "

I totally disagree.

That is not the case in Shiraoka where I was.
I will back up my claim when I find the document I got breaking down the move in costs at another estate agent in Shiraoka.

In the meantime you would do well to read this:

Good news for renters in Japan: Security deposits, key money on the demise ‹ Japan Today: Japan News and Discussion (http://www.japantoday.com/category/opinions/view/good-news-for-renters-in-japan-security-deposits-key-money-on-the-demise)

justice
September 14th, 2012, 21:56
Anyway post their response to your bad grammar angry rant.


Post your reply to this article:

Good news for renters in Japan: Security deposits, key money on the demise ‹ Japan Today: Japan News and Discussion (http://www.japantoday.com/category/opinions/view/good-news-for-renters-in-japan-security-deposits-key-money-on-the-demise)

The various fees usually paid by a tenant such as security deposits (“shikikin”) and key money (“reikin”) are decreasing. Japan’s declining birth rates, decreasing population, oversupply of housing and the growing awareness of consumer rights have put an end to the era where landlords once held all of the power.
30% of apartments do not require key money, 50% only require 1 month deposit
According to real estate information service and property listing database, AtHome, 28% of apartments listed for rent in Tokyo’s 23 Wards in 2010 did not require any key money. This is 17.8% higher than in 2007.
Apartments that only required 1 month deposit totaled 51.2% in 2010 – up from 29.2% in 2007. Meanwhile, apartments that required 2 month’s deposit fell from 63.2% in 2007 to 40%. Apartments that did not require any deposit increased from 3.1% to 5.1%.

justice
September 14th, 2012, 22:23
[QUOTE=UPGRAYEDD;790648]Except for the visa thing. You sound like a dick employee.

"You got paid a fair wage "

8500+65400+148000+80000=301900 JPY

You call that a fair wage. Fine, I will not say that my opinion is any wiser than yours. Have you tried living in Japan on that, with all the expenses that go with it, commuting is not covered , RCS is too cheap, nor is the health certificate they required (21,000 JPY) as well as a multitude of other expenses.

I had to get up at 5AM when I was going to a remote school catch the TRAIN, catch the earliest BUS , walk another 30 minutes to the school. Luckily, it was Spring, since in the winter you have a long cold wait for the return trip at the bus stop which you walk another 30 mins to from that school.

mothy
September 14th, 2012, 23:46
Upgrayedd, why you being such a jackass. Li'l Justice is obviously a dipshit for accepting a job at RCS in the first place, but RCS is a horrible shitty company that pays shit and employs people unqualified to teach. Quit defending them and admit that they are an atrocious immoral company that only a complete dickhead would ever agree to work for.

UPGRAYEDD
September 15th, 2012, 00:24
Dude, Justice - according to these really confusing emails - you got paid the following

1. 174,531 yen for April
2. 210,000 for May
3. June appears to be withheld because you fled the country a month before you were scheduled to be paid and you didn't bother to close out your apartment contract so you're never going to see most of that.

Let's do math. You got paid 384,531 yen for two months of work. Did you think no one was going to notice your lies about getting paid just 8000 yen?

You're also totally confused about moving in costs in Japan. You moved into one of the 70% of apartments that required key money and one of the 95% that requires a deposit....big surprise!

UPGRAYEDD
September 15th, 2012, 00:28
Upgrayedd, why you being such a jackass. Li'l Justice is obviously a dipshit for accepting a job at RCS in the first place, but RCS is a horrible shitty company that pays shit and employs people unqualified to teach. Quit defending them and admit that they are an atrocious immoral company that only a complete dickhead would ever agree to work for.


Haha - exactly.

I just feel bad now because as much as I hate the company - this guy is on here spreading all kinds of confused bullshit about a company that did absolutely nothing wrong (I'm not even sure about that VISA trick anymore). Posting emails and names of HR people and all.

A mod should seriously delete this whole thread.

mothy
September 15th, 2012, 00:37
But that would delete MY POOOOOOOOOOOOOOSTS!!!!

justice
September 15th, 2012, 07:11
Dude, Justice - according to these really confusing emails - you got paid the following

1. 174,531 yen for April
2. 210,000 for May
3. June appears to be withheld because you fled the country a month before you were scheduled to be paid and you didn't bother to close out your apartment contract so you're never going to see most of that.

Let's do math. You got paid 384,531 yen for two months of work. Did you think no one was going to notice your lies about getting paid just 8000 yen?

"Confusing" to you. Coz your a little short of intelligence.

Since you are "clearly" ADHD, I will REPEAT myself:

8500+65400+148000+80000=301900 JPY


8500= What u receive as salary after deductions.Start of term one: 9 (pro-rated)April+

65400= What u receive as salary after deductions.May+
148000=What u receive as salary after deductions.June+
80000= What u receive as salary after deductions. Until Friday July 20th . The end of term one.(pro-rated)

Total =301900 JPY

That is what everyone who completes the contract with RCS get paid.
And yet you still claim that's a fair wage.

IF any of this were lies I could be sued for libel and defamation that is the right of RCS but as I am telling the truth they can't do it.

Do NOT make an offensive allegation.

You're also totally confused about moving in costs in Japan. You moved into one of the 70% of apartments that required key money and one of the 95% that requires a deposit....big surprise!

If you say so .

" Everyone in Japan knows that moving into an apartment can cost up to 4 months worth of rent. "

It is NEVER , "EVERYONE" poor word choice. Shows your level of thought. I am so anal. Can you point out my poor grammar you have managed to hedge my request to do so. SO anal!

justice
September 15th, 2012, 07:23
Haha - exactly.

I just feel bad now because as much as I hate the company - this guy is on here spreading all kinds of confused bullshit about a company that did absolutely nothing wrong (I'm not even sure about that VISA trick anymore). Posting emails and names of HR people and all.

A mod should seriously delete this whole thread.

Why should an mod delete this thread? (http://kidshealth.org/parent/emotions/behavior/adhd.html)

justice
September 15th, 2012, 07:42
[QUOTE=UPGRAYEDD;790685]Haha - exactly.

I just feel bad now because as much as I hate the company - this guy is on here spreading all kinds of confused bullshit about a company that did absolutely nothing wrong (I'm not even sure about that VISA trick anymore). Posting emails and names of HR people and all.


"VISA trick " : heartless comment. I can only wish that it is u who has gone thru the ordeal perhaps you would have some sympathy then.

Read:

A 2005 complaint about RCS from an exploited former employee:

Job Discussion Forums :: View topic - RCS corporation (http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=27132)



-Arrive expecting visa to find it hasnt even been applied for.

Enough information to conclude that something was not quite right in 2005 either:

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:13 am Post subject: RCS corporation http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/templates/subSilver/images/lang_english/icon_quote.gif (http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/posting.php?mode=quote&p=275170&sid=c4246d23c353c719740d58deb77718d3) A much thought about warning to people who might be thinking of coming to Japan. The RCS corporation of Saitama is to be avoided at all costs.

It's the usual story from the shady side of ELT from what I hear about other bad firms.

-Arrive expecting visa to find it hasnt even been applied for.
-Overcharging for rental cars, accomodation etc
-They charge customers travel expenses but don't pay them to teachers.
-Whatever else you hear they have no thought for the teachers who work for them, I was fined heavily for becoming ill and missing 5 days in a month despite doctors confirmation I was unfit for work. (part of the cause was recieving less than my 60k rent for 2 months running as "salary")
-After challenging them over deductions from my salary I was fired a month later over made up offences and even with school records on my side and lack of evidence on their part I was fined half a months salary and told not to speak with the school again.

They were caught out defrauding their clients in my area and I believe they have lost many schools as a result of this and ALTs leaving after only a few months, they are currently trying to gain new schools -so if you see that orange envelope on your school's desk be sure to pass this warning along.
Myself I have to go back home after not being able to buy proper food during my illness and making it much worse -its been a hella short stay but I won't be put off by them.

Antonath
September 15th, 2012, 08:39
Ugh, I feel bad about getting anywhere near this thread, but this one I have to take exception to.


-Arrive expecting visa to find it hasnt even been applied for.
A visa isn't just permission to be in a country, it's permission to enter a country. If a company told me to enter Japan on a tourist visa and they'd "give" me a working visa when I arrived, I'd have been asking a bunch of questions already, and probably would have told the company to get stuffed.

Jiggit
September 15th, 2012, 09:51
Yeah op is clearly a drooling moron and RCS is definitely a sht company but that visa thing is seriously shady.

justice
September 15th, 2012, 15:00
Ugh, I feel bad about getting anywhere near this thread, but this one I have to take exception to.


A visa isn't just permission to be in a country, it's permission to enter a country. If a company told me to enter Japan on a tourist visa and they'd "give" me a working visa when I arrived, I'd have been asking a bunch of questions already, and probably would have told the company to get stuffed.

Sent: Tuesday, 28 February 2012, 8:22
Subject: Re: Reference Letter and the Immigration Bureau of Japan



Dear James,

Good morning!

I hope that you are doing well.

I know that your arrival date is drawing near. I did receive a few CoEs yesterday but your was not among them. I do expect it to arrive soon. However, if it does not arrive before you depart for Japan you will need to arrive on a tourist visa. In order to do this you need to let immigration know that your main purpose for visiting Japan is to sighsee. You can not let them know that you have found work and that you are expecting your CoE.

You will also need to show that you have the intent of departing Japan within 90 days which is the allotment for the tourist visa. If you have purchased a one way ticket this may be a slight inconvenience but you do not need to worry. Most ALTs who only have a one-way ticket in this situation will purchase a refundable one-way ticket to Korea to show that they have the intention to leave Japan within the 90 days of their arrival as per the tourist visa restrictions. Some also will book a ferry trip to Korea on the JR Beetle. If you book a reservation on this ferry you do not have to actually purchase the ticket. The reservation will expire at the time of the trip if you have not actually purchased the ticket. This also shows that you intend to depart Japan within the 90 day period. You will need to show in some way that you have the intention to depart Japan if you are going to obtain a 90 day tourist visa.

If you have any questions, regarding this please let me know.

I look forward to meeting you and working with you soon!

Kindest wishes,

D****

coop52
September 15th, 2012, 22:36
looooool that's shady as fuck. Why in the world didn't you just tell them to get bent?

justice
September 15th, 2012, 22:56
looooool that's hady as fuck. Why in the world didn't you just tell them to get bent?


Good question.

And yes they are shady as f..k! :)

What a tangled web we weave, when first
we practice to deceive! Sir Walter Scott


Integrity is telling myself the truth. And honesty is
telling the truth to other people. Spencer Johnson

Jiggit
September 16th, 2012, 02:40
Dear OP. Survival of the non retarded.

Sciby
September 16th, 2012, 18:56
I feel dirty and stupider for having read all this.


A visa isn't just permission to be in a country, it's permission to enter a country. If a company told me to enter Japan on a tourist visa and they'd "give" me a working visa when I arrived, I'd have been asking a bunch of questions already, and probably would have told the company to get stuffed.

I dunno, I know a few people who've moved somewhere on a tourist visa, then found employment with someone who sponsors a proper work visa. (of course, then they have to go do a weekend to Korea or something)... but yeah.. a verbal promise of a proper work visa if you just pop over on a tourist visa... there'd have to be a lot more assurances before taking that particular plunge.

justice
September 16th, 2012, 20:12
Dear OP. Survival of the non retarded.


Hahaha, yeah dude you'd clean them up.

justice
September 16th, 2012, 23:31
looooool that's shady as fuck. Why in the world didn't you just tell them to get bent?


I would also add that to protest the fact that RCS pays wages a month late I approached the school counselor about not being paid wages for May , and only receiving 8500 JPY (after deductions) in salary for April. She told me to call the BoE. I did and the BoE said "we can't help you with money problems call your employer" . 10 minutes later I got a call from RCS (I did not answer, and so the message from Diana of RCS was recorded on my voicemail) saying the BoE does not want you to come into school tomorrow, I will be coming to meet you. As for the meeting that was to take place I left Japan the following morning.

Yarantoikenbai
September 17th, 2012, 11:09
Almost everyone pays a month late.

Apart from the world's shadiest visa dealings, the company hasn't really done anything wrong as far as I see. They're a shit company, and I wouldn't work for them even if I were desperate, but other than pulling them up on the visa stuff, stop complaining about what your own ignorance has wrought.

UPGRAYEDD
September 17th, 2012, 11:26
I would also add that to protest the fact that RCS pays wages a month late I approached the school counselor about not being paid wages for May , and only receiving 8500 JPY (after deductions) in salary for April. She told me to call the BoE. I did and the BoE said "we can't help you with money problems call your employer" . 10 minutes later I got a call from RCS (I did not answer, and so the message from Diana of RCS was recorded on my voicemail) saying the BoE does not want you to come into school tomorrow, I will be coming to meet you. As for the meeting that was to take place I left Japan the following morning.

They had already told you on June 22nd that you would be paid for May on June 29th.

justice
September 17th, 2012, 11:30
Almost everyone pays a month late.

Apart from the world's shadiest visa dealings, the company hasn't really done anything wrong as far as I see. They're a shit company, and I wouldn't work for them even if I were desperate, but other than pulling them up on the visa stuff, stop complaining about what your own ignorance has wrought.

Almost everyone pays a month late.
I work for Interac, and I won't see a *full* paycheque until November 30. I get paid in September for my week of training (about 30k perhaps.)
I get paid in October for September work, but have to pay my start-up rent costs, car hire fees, etc. My fees for my apartment are about 170,000. I live in a Leo Palace, one of the few that doesn't require key money. It does require a security deposit, and I have to pay for Sept/Oct from that paycheque. I have to pay for my car lease for Sept/Oct. I expect I'll be seeing something around 50k first pay, when my advertised wage is 250,000. Other people pay more for their flats and will receive less. Note that I've been in Japan since 18 August, so I'm going nearly 3 months without income. I also have to pay for my travel expenses to and from school out of pocket until they reimburse me come payday. Interac also pro-rates your pay for December/August and March/April when you recontract.
This is how a lot of Japanese business works. For the pay thing, you sound uninformed and (as previously stated) a bit of a dick employee. It is a fair wage, at least they're spreading your start-up costs evenly over your pay. Japan is super expensive; Interac and JET both advise bringing at *least* 250,000 yen to hold you over until everything's sorted. You have obligations to the company such as rent and start up costs (that the company has probably paid for you, you're just paying them back) and then you skip town. Hm.
Apart from the world's shadiest visa dealings, the company hasn't really done anything wrong as far as I see. They're a shit company, and I wouldn't work for them even if I were desperate, but other than pulling them up on the visa stuff, stop complaining about what your own ignorance has wrought.
***************

My own ignorance? I don't think so.

I thought I could trust them.

There is simply no way you can make money working for RCS.
You lose money working for them. That is how I see it.

You say "I'm going nearly 3 months without income" well good luck to you.

You say "Almost everyone pays a month late". I ask is that lawful?
Check the Japan Labour Standards Bureau website and find about the law. Check what the Labour Standards Bureau says about withheld wages.

justice
September 17th, 2012, 11:39
They had already told you on June 22nd that you would be paid for May on June 29th.


Correct that is what's written in their email which I posted up.

Problem is I no longer trusted them to pay. Okay.

I have to ignore ur msges. don't waste ur time. Wont reply to them.

UPGRAYEDD
September 17th, 2012, 11:39
You would have made money if you didn't quit and flee the country.

;)

UPGRAYEDD
September 17th, 2012, 11:40
And 200,000 yen per month to teach English is really good pay for someone who can barely speak the language.

Jiggit
September 17th, 2012, 12:39
"200,000 yen per month to teach English is really good pay for someone who can barely speak the language."

OP I heard you ignored Upgrayedd but I thought you should read this anyway because loool

Yarantoikenbai
September 17th, 2012, 15:41
Would you like to be paid in advance for work you haven't done? They get your info and worked hours at the end of the month, check things over, process payments and then it gets paid to you the following month. How is this illegal?

Agreed, you'd have made money if you stayed and @ what Jiggit reposted for you.

coop52
September 18th, 2012, 08:02
My own ignorance? I don't think so.

I thought I could trust them.


lololololololololol you dum

Gizmotech
September 18th, 2012, 14:42
You know who you can trust about money? Your wallet. Everyone else is out to screw you.

Getting paid for your previous months work on a paycheck seems pretty normal to me. Work in May, paid in June.

I've got to ask, why are you still in Japan if you've been pretty thoroughly screwed? I mean most people would've cleared out. The money really isn't that great, and as I'm sure you've noticed there isn't any respect.... I mean, are you some type of mentally deficient weeabo who hhas to live here, because other wise I would've taken off much earlier....

That being said, you did come over w/ a private company that was basically screwing you from the beginning.... we really can't expect all that much from you. (And as a side note, I fear for any children you will end up teaching. Make sure to wipe the drool off before you start teaching.)

Jiggit
September 18th, 2012, 15:35
Might be taking it a little too far there, champ.

Tyr
September 19th, 2012, 13:56
Man F this company forever.

They used to straight up send letters to my Shikoku inaka schools addressed to the "ALT" trying to headhunt me to come "leave the inaka and work in Tokyo".

haha wow, that's amazing.
Do they actually say it so bluntly?

UPGRAYEDD
September 19th, 2012, 19:21
haha wow, that's amazing.
Do they actually say it so bluntly?

Yep. It was pretty much --- "we are looking for experienced ALTs to come live and work in downtown Tokyo, the dynamic capital of Japan!" ---

I've always wondered if anyone actually quit JET and all the goodies that came along with that to go earn slightly over minimum wage in Tokyo.

Tyr
September 20th, 2012, 09:30
Yep. It was pretty much --- "we are looking for experienced ALTs to come live and work in downtown Tokyo, the dynamic capital of Japan!" ---

I've always wondered if anyone actually quit JET and all the goodies that came along with that to go earn slightly over minimum wage in Tokyo.

Someone definitely will have I bet.

I'm considering sort of doing it next year- not recontracting and moving into a private position in a big city. Could be worth the financial blow to escape the inaka and return to the real world for a few months.
Just a consideration of course should nothing else be on the post-jet horizon. And not with this company.....

Clickonthewhatnow
September 21st, 2012, 23:23
Haha - exactly.

I just feel bad now because as much as I hate the company - this guy is on here spreading all kinds of confused bullshit about a company that did absolutely nothing wrong (I'm not even sure about that VISA trick anymore). Posting emails and names of HR people and all.

A mod should seriously delete this whole thread.

I agree entirely with this. Not sure about the visa, and everything else they've posted outright points to the fact that the OP doesn't know what they're talking about. The emails should be edited some, at least to the point where the poor HR people aren't listed anymore. You know they're just following some SOP passed down through the ages at RCS.

justice
September 28th, 2012, 18:04
I agree entirely with this. Not sure about the visa, and everything else they've posted outright points to the fact that the OP doesn't know what they're talking about. The emails should be edited some, at least to the point where the poor HR people aren't listed anymore. You know they're just following some SOP passed down through the ages at RCS.

character assassination

Clickonthewhatnow
September 29th, 2012, 11:45
character assassination

Not sure whose character you're talking about. But yes, by adding the correspondent's email in your pastes of email, you are attacking their character. By admitting to it, you're attacking your own. Please go back and remove their name from the emails so they can't be found as part of a sketchy HR decision made by a company they work for and possibly hurt future employment opportunities.

To be clear, I don't care what you say about the company. It's individuals who are likely following the bid of the upper ups that shouldn't have their name dragged through the mud.

justice
September 30th, 2012, 00:42
"following orders"—the same Nuremberg Defense (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superior_Orders) used by some of the Nazi war criminals... Responsibility for action!

Antonath
September 30th, 2012, 08:55
You just compared RCS employees to Nazis. First, WTF really? Second, Godwin'd. Lock the thread, mods.

word
September 30th, 2012, 11:59
Yeah, this has gone far beyond stupid.