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Randomgirl
May 12th, 2014, 06:04
Anyone know of any radio stations that I can get online? I'd like to know some of the popular music before I arrive (shortlister) and start having to connect with young people there ;)

Thanks!!!

uthinkimlost?
May 12th, 2014, 08:32
Anyone know of any radio stations that I can get online? I'd like to know some of the popular music before I arrive (shortlister) and start having to connect with young people there ;)

Thanks!!!

Yeah, there's nothing like an old fart trying too hard to like the cool things to open the hearts of the youth.

There are tonnes of weeaboo streaming stations. A quick google will help you there.

Fair warning: If you teach older students (JHS, SHS) they will have very varied tastes and very few of them will actually "love" the popular stuff when asked about it.

therealwindycity
May 12th, 2014, 08:33
There are quite a few Japanese music podcasts, too.

Randomgirl
May 12th, 2014, 08:47
A lot of people wouldn't call me an old fart - at least none of the jhs/SHS students at the school I currently work at do. Bravo on making assumptions. You know what they say when people ass u me things...

I asked the question after already googling, but alas, the ones I've found that offer streaming won't allow me access from overseas. I was hoping for concrete sites that people have found that do work overseas.

...and people wonder why some are tentative to post on here. Sigh

uthinkimlost?
May 12th, 2014, 08:54
A lot of people wouldn't call me an old fart - at least none of the jhs/SHS students at the school I currently work at do. Bravo on making assumptions. You know what they say when people ass u me things...

Yes, it makes an ass out of u.

Over 25 in a SHS and you are officially old. As you were on JET forever ago, I have to assume you have gone past that Christmas Cake sell-by date. (Unless you finished undergrad by 12.) Trying too hard to talk about pop interests is just a little off-putting. Talk about the students' real interests and ask them what things they like, if you're going to put pop culture into lessons. (Which is a bad idea anyway, since those popular this year will be forgotten next year.) I remember teachers trying that, and they always seemed like bellends to my friends and I.

Are you searching in Japanese or English? Don't look for actual Japanese stations. The ones in my area play very little music, anyway. Check the internet radio part of itunes (At least I THINK it still has that section; might not with itunes radio launching) Also, as TRWC said, there are plenty of podcasts.

Randomgirl
May 12th, 2014, 09:01
Full on assumption about how I'm going to put my knowledge of popular music to use. Full stop. You don't know me and I'd really appreciate it if you just passed by anything I post. I don't have the energy to waste on people who are a) unkind and b) don't have anything useful to offer me. I'm too old for that.

mrcharisma
May 12th, 2014, 09:01
He's right though. Even if you are only 21 it would still look weird and forced to the kids if you started chatting about J-pop. Many of them are more savvy than you think.

It's better to just pick it up when you get here. Plenty of them will like Western pop culture too.

Antonath
May 12th, 2014, 09:02
You know what they say when people ass u me things...
Personally, I don't. You are making an assumption yourself.


I asked the question after already googling, but alas, the ones I've found that offer streaming won't allow me access from overseas. I was hoping for concrete sites that people have found that do work overseas.
You might try something like TuneIn Radio. They have streams from all over the place available. I don't know specifically about Japanese radio, but there's a good chance they have something.

Uthink does have a point that your students may not know that much about who is current in Japanese music, and may not have real preferences if they do. It's the same as asking students in the USA or UK about music: if you ask someone who's into it, they'll know things. Otherwise, you'll get an "I've heard of X..."

mrcharisma
May 12th, 2014, 09:07
I'm too old for that.

At least you got that part right.

uthinkimlost?
May 12th, 2014, 09:12
Full on assumption about how I'm going to put my knowledge of popular music to use. Full stop. You don't know me and I'd really appreciate it if you just passed by anything I post. I don't have the energy to waste on people who are a) unkind and b) don't have anything useful to offer me. I'm too old for that.

If you like, but I'm honestly not trying to be unkind, and I don't think my take was particularly unuseful.

Antonath
May 12th, 2014, 09:18
Yeah, there's nothing like an old fart trying too hard to like the cool things to open the hearts of the youth.


Over 25 in a SHS and you are officially old. As you were on JET forever ago, I have to assume you have gone past that Christmas Cake sell-by date.


I'm honestly not trying to be unkind
Sure...

Page
May 12th, 2014, 09:18
I found when I came here that I shared music tastes with almost none of my kids (goes the same for tv and movies, too). JHS boys are nearly impossible to pin down as they are pushed to devote all their time to sports, studying, or Japan's idea of "man things", I've only met a few with more than a passing intrest. Girls are mostly Johnny's (I think that's what it is anyway, Sexy Zone and Kis-my-ft2 or whatever the fk). It's mostly a mix of bubblegum pop from TV and anime music up until JHS, not necessarily what's on the actual Japanese Top 100 or whatever. SHS I have no idea about, though.

therealwindycity
May 12th, 2014, 09:18
Music is nice because you can play it in the background while you do other things, but if you want to be slightly more up-to-date about the pop culture things your students are talking about, I would recommend watching some Japanese "variety" shows. It's kind of hard to find Japanese TV online, but if you can it'll be better language practice and more "culturally relevant" (in the sense that you know the current catchphrase of the latest 15-minutes-of-fame comedy duo) than music.

uthinkimlost?
May 12th, 2014, 09:22
Music is nice because you can play it in the background while you do other things, but if you want to be slightly more up-to-date about the pop culture things your students are talking about, I would recommend watching some Japanese "variety" shows. It's kind of hard to find Japanese TV online, but if you can it'll be better language practice and more "culturally relevant" (in the sense that you know the current catchphrase of the latest 15-minutes-of-fame comedy duo) than music.

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therealwindycity
May 12th, 2014, 09:31
That I can help with:
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Also, not a day goes by that I don't hear my students talking about this:

Puzzle Dragons on the App Store on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/jp/app/puzzle-dragons/id493470467?l=en)

Jiggit
May 12th, 2014, 09:34
I'd like to know some of the popular music before I arrive (shortlister) and start having to connect with young people there

For students you just pretend to like the same things that they all pretend to like. That's what they all do and that way you don't have to subject yourself to the supreme awfulness that is Japanese music.

Lianwen
May 12th, 2014, 09:50
Honestly, I've had a lot of luck checking the Japan iTunes. But I'm not sure if that'd work. Worst case, have something memorized you can pull out. My JHS girls love Taylor Swift and would rather try to talk to me about the English singers, so ymmv.

Lianwen
May 12th, 2014, 09:54
Full on assumption about how I'm going to put my knowledge of popular music to use. Full stop. You don't know me and I'd really appreciate it if you just passed by anything I post. I don't have the energy to waste on people who are a) unkind and b) don't have anything useful to offer me. I'm too old for that.

...there used to be an ignored/blocked user option on the forum? This may help you block the posts of users you find offensive. I'm not sure how it works though, but maybe a mod can help you?

Jiggit
May 12th, 2014, 09:57
Honestly, I've had a lot of luck checking the Japan iTunes. But I'm not sure if that'd work. Worst case, have something memorized you can pull out. My JHS girls love Taylor Swift and would rather try to talk to me about the English singers, so ymmv.

It depends. If you want to find actual Japanese music that's decent then it's a whole different discussion. If you want to impress your kids (though you probably won't) then all you have to do is know the maybe 5 groups that are acceptable to like. And frankly your kids will be more interested if you can name foreign artists they've heard of. So basically pretend to like Taylor Swift, Avril Lavigne and (for some reason) Chris Brown and maybe they'll be vaguely interested for a few minutes.

Oh also a lot of kids like Korean stuff still but you're not allowed to like that these days. CNBlue and Girl's Generation are still popular though so if you find a kid who likes them then you can chat about them in secret. Since Korean pop is at least moderately ok pop music this could work. Don't try and talk about Kara though, everyone in Japan and Korea hates them now.

But your kids won't like or have heard of any Japanese music that's even vaguely decent.

therealwindycity
May 12th, 2014, 11:05
Don't try and talk about Kara though, everyone in Japan and Korea hates them now.

Why? What happened?

Page
May 12th, 2014, 12:10
For students you just pretend to like the same things that they all pretend to like. That's what they all do and that way you don't have to subject yourself to the supreme awfulness that is Japanese music.

Hah, this. My kids will ask me which member of X group I like and I just point at a random one, it usually doesn't get much more deep than that.


Some kids know foreign music but it's kind of random. I know of 2 girls that know/like TS and that's about it. At my school, anyway, they're over Lady GaGa and don't care about Avril. If the foreign music is on Japanese TV at some point they're more likely to know them, until SHS that seems to be where kids get their music tastes from.

Re: hating KARA, because of some radio interview I think I remember hearing on the news? Korean people on social media may be the worlds biggest assholes and apparently enjoy ruining Korean bands?

Jiggit
May 12th, 2014, 12:14
Kara became unpopular for a whole bunch of reasons that would make you want to stab your brain out if I told you. They've just fallen out of fashion really, but they took some kicking on the way down. I think a big part of it is they were a Korean group trying very hard to be a Japanese group and in the recent barrage of nationalism that was not a great position to be in.

They don't really have any talent compared to SNSD either.

Gizmotech
May 13th, 2014, 08:04
But they have way more talent than most Japanese groups so it's obviously not talent that was their problem :P

Jiggit
May 13th, 2014, 08:39
Eh. Talent is not so important for Japanese idols because they try to cultivate this "little sister" type thing where you are supposed to be rooting for them to do well or whatever. So J-idols sustain their popularity through fan interaction and variety shows and whatnot, which is something kara were not really able to do, though their Japanese is fairly decent. Japanese people who are into kpop aren't looking for something different from jpop idols, so kara don't really have the appeal there either.

Eh, they probably aren't disliked in Japan particularly, just not popular now that their popularity has waned. But I think the Koreans view them fairly contemptuously at this point.