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BeckyJones
August 6th, 2014, 08:12
"It's the internet". Yep - true. But we do try to be helpful too while keeping the site as flexible as we can. We're stricter in the newbie forums so if people want to come on for advice yet not be lynched by the regulars, that's the place to be. Reports within the newbie forum are taken very seriously and usually ends up with the banhammer coming out.

Thanks for your input tobio. Keeping new members here is difficult, as you're starting to realise. However, all it takes is one or two new posters to be persistent and bring new life into the forum. You never know, you could end up finding yourself in charge of the newbie forum or even a general mod. I'm always on the lookout for people who want to help the site. Some would say there's too many mods here, but the thing is not everyone is active at the same time.

Anyway, stick around :)

Cheers
oh you should probably cull some of the mods. Several of them haven't been in Japan or on the site in a year or so.

Jiggit
August 7th, 2014, 02:18
Beer Baron don't you think it's about time I'm made a mod?

Beer Baron
August 7th, 2014, 03:58
You seem to be a magnet for infractions...

ihatefall
August 7th, 2014, 09:40
You seem to be a magnet for infractions...

.....and Word isn't?

Jiggit
August 7th, 2014, 10:45
I've had like 2 and you made Ini a mod.

BeckyJones
August 7th, 2014, 11:01
You seem to be a magnet for infractions...

have I ever had an infraction?

word
August 9th, 2014, 01:14
.....and Word isn't?

No, I'm not.

par92186
August 10th, 2014, 18:06
I've had like 2 and you made Ini a mod.

Ini's a mod?!?

You just blew my mind...

Antonath
August 10th, 2014, 19:47
Ini was a mod. Past tense. Your blown mind is a fair indication of why he no longer is.

par92186
August 10th, 2014, 19:49
Ini was a mod. Past tense. Your blown mind is a fair indication of why he no longer is.

Viva la revolution

Gizmotech
August 10th, 2014, 23:20
Thank god these people aren't stupid enough to make me a mod.

Jiggit
August 11th, 2014, 00:36
Ini was a mod. Past tense. Your blown mind is a fair indication of why he no longer is.

His alt account had mod powers last time I saw it.

word
August 11th, 2014, 00:40
Nah, it didn't. It still had the title, but didn't actually have the authoritah.

mothy
August 13th, 2014, 23:09
Yeah, ini is so much worse than word.

ihatefall
August 13th, 2014, 23:27
Ya, Ini would definitely do terrible things like delete threads he was getting annoyed with or losing the argument in.....oh wait a min

word
August 15th, 2014, 19:26
I deleted troll threads/posts in Applying. I'm not sorry I did this and would do it again. I got a bit overzealous in my deletion once, but I apologized to the user involved for doing so. It was an innocent mistake, and I'd appreciate it if you would stop attempting to make it out to be something otherwise, ihate. That was a single incident and it was addressed.

Jiggit
August 15th, 2014, 21:19
But you think the word "troll" means "disagrees with me", no?

word
August 16th, 2014, 04:46
No. Where the aforementioned incident was concerned, however, "trolling" was the appropriate label (despite my ham-fisted response). Relevant messages were recovered and examined and my actions were viewed a bit more sympathetically (not much, but a bit) by fellow staff members.

This thread is getting off topic. If you guys just want to use me as the site's whipping boy, take it to The Lounge. Criticism posted in here should be constructive and specific, not just random digs. To be honest, the vast majority of moderating I do goes completely unnoticed, and it's becoming increasingly apparent that you guys don't want me to post my opinions as often, nor engage in discussion as often. Message received. I'll be laying low and moderating only as much as this position requires in the future.

Jiggit
August 16th, 2014, 07:16
I think the constructive specific criticism is that people want you to stop using your moderating powers to alter threads where you're talking about your own opinion (under the guise of removing "trolling") when no mods appear to care about trolling in every other thread.

word
August 16th, 2014, 13:29
I get it. You didn't like the way I moderated a pointlessly stupid thread I created in the time-wasting sub-forum and in which I stated I was going to moderate strictly. I learned my lesson and won't be creating another thread like that.

ihatefall
August 16th, 2014, 14:37
I was under the impression that you had editing an argument you were having with someone on more than one occasion. Sorry if I am mistaken, but a wise person once told me that when you're in a position of power, everything you do is viewed under a magnifying glass.

word
August 16th, 2014, 15:37
You are mistaken.

I overzealously deleted a series of posts when I was banning an abusive troll in Applying once. It was a mistake, I apologized for it, and I won't do it again.

The "argument" everyone is ranting about here is related to a thread in The Lounge--one which was stupid and completely inconsequential, but apparently quite meaningful to a few very vocal members of this site. I didn't actually delete anything from that thread; I moved unrelated posts out of it. Nothing was deleted or edited. I have no idea why you guys have gotten your panties in such a bunch over it.

par92186
August 16th, 2014, 19:53
Will you guys just make up and kiss already...

greyjoy
August 17th, 2014, 04:34
It's really not that it's meaningful or consequential necessarily. It's that you accused me of being a troll and a rapist for basically no reason, and in diverting part of the discussion to another thread, you managed to mostly avoid (or rather delay) the fall out of insisting your wrong opinion was fact.

It's awfully ridiculous how many punches I've had to pull recently just to make sure I don't upset you and cause you to spiral out of control again.

word
August 17th, 2014, 05:09
You guys are awfully ridiculous in your attempts to paint me as a "bad mod." I'm just a whale biologist--I calls 'em like I sees 'em. I've never infracted you nor edited any of your posts, greyjoy. I might think of you as a rapist (and rightfully so), but I'll never allow that fact to affect my moderation of your posts. I'm not certain precisely which behaviour of mine you believe qualifies as "out of control." I don't believe I've left anything you posted unanswered or unaddressed, nor have I attempted to stifle debate on any subject you've brought up. Moving one of your off-topic posts does not qualify as censoring such a post. I'm sure you can understand the difference.

Antonath
August 17th, 2014, 05:27
I might think of you as a rapist (and rightfully so)...
Cite your sources (and call the police) or stop calling people that, please. There is a world of difference between calling people landwhales or obsessed with porn and accusing them of rape.

word
August 17th, 2014, 05:35
greyjoy made his inclinations clear in his own posts; I'm quite willing to allow the community to judge him for what he is. If he is able to use this thread as a soapbox on which to stand and badmouth me on the basis of my posts and actions, I feel at least somewhat qualified to do the same to him. Should I be expected to self-censor my own thoughts on the matter?

word
August 17th, 2014, 05:39
Also, for what it's worth, I don't believe I've evar accused anyone of being "obsessed with porn" or even being a landwhale (obvious ribbing aside). As one who is a bit fat and obsessed with porn, it would be rather hypocritical of me to do so.

Antonath
August 17th, 2014, 05:54
Also, for what it's worth, I don't believe I've evar accused anyone of being "obsessed with porn" or even being a landwhale (obvious ribbing aside). As one who is a bit fat and obsessed with porn, it would be rather hypocritical of me to do so.
I wasn't referring to you in particular with that, just pointing out that insults and the like are an accepted part of popular internet bitch-gripe-moan website ITIL, but accusations of criminal sexual behaviour are probably crossing a line.

word
August 17th, 2014, 06:16
Perhaps.

Nevatheless, I still view greyjoy as a rapist. Perhaps he is nothing of the sort... but my opinion remains. Dismiss me as you see fit. My opinion of him is earned, not bestowed. I don't take any joy in the application of the label.

Jiggit
August 17th, 2014, 14:07
When you say shit like that I can only draw one of three conclusions:

You're trolling.

You're trying to attack him personally to avoid addressing his points and generally derail the argument.

You are nuts.

Also it doesn't matter that you didn't actually infract him in this situation; you certainly used the threat of it as a way of preventing him from taking part in the discussion.

word
August 17th, 2014, 17:02
When you say shit like that I can only draw one of three conclusions:

You're trolling.

You're trying to attack him personally to avoid addressing his points and generally derail the argument.

You are nuts.

Also it doesn't matter that you didn't actually infract him in this situation; you certainly used the threat of it as a way of preventing him from taking part in the discussion.I'm just being an ass. He brought it up; I was pretty much ready to drop the whole issue. The offending thread has been locked for days now. I totally feel like shit. You guys won. I'm not sure what you want from me. I'm sorry.

word
August 17th, 2014, 17:15
Oh, and as far as the "threat of infracting" is concerned--I threatened to infract him if he kept trolling, which seems quite a legitimate threat to make in a thread I'd established as heavily moderated. As it happened, he continued trolling, and I didn't infract him, so... ? The thread was locked, and I've been avoiding posting in The Lounge since then. I'm really trying to avoid posting much in general. Give me a chance and leave me alone for a while; I promise, I'll be much more agreeable.

par92186
August 17th, 2014, 17:21
Word I don't feel you need to disappear from posting. I've always enjoyed reading what you've got to say. Clearly some things didn't agree so well with some other ITIL members, but it's not like you were running for President of ITIL (or are you?). Regardless, I hope ya still throw your hat in the ring from time to time.

Jiggit
August 17th, 2014, 17:36
I'm just being an ass. He brought it up; I was pretty much ready to drop the whole issue. The offending thread has been locked for days now. I totally feel like shit. You guys won. I'm not sure what you want from me. I'm sorry.

Fair enough, sorry to go on about it, I didn't realise you were kidding this time.

RoflCopter
August 18th, 2014, 01:47
Jiggit for Mod!


President of ITIL (or are you?).
How do I go about getting a nomination?


Fair enough, sorry to go on about it, I didn't realise you were kidding this time.
Get with the program buddy, you're behind; If you want to be a MOD you need to be able to recognize the difference, we've got some training to do.

mothy
August 18th, 2014, 13:45
you guys just want to use me as the site's whipping boy

Yes please.

azguitarist
August 25th, 2014, 11:21
Don't stop posting Word!

word
August 25th, 2014, 11:52
I won't; I'm just tired of putting forth effort toward creating threads, engaging in discussion, occasionally stirring up sh*t, and getting arseloads of flak for it. People hate it when the site is boring but clearly don't want me to attempt to make it interesting, either (or they just don't like the way I go about it, which is essentially the same thing). So I'm gonna keep my fat f*cking mouth shut for a while and just respond to sh*t occasionally. Maybe things will improve.

Jiggit
August 25th, 2014, 13:19
Just so long as you never entertain the idea that there might be something about your posts that is particularly objectionable.

word
August 25th, 2014, 13:27
There's boatloads of stuff in my posts that is particularly objectionable and I know it. I didn't realize before that you whiners wanted a forum where nobody ever posts anything particularly objectionable. I do now. So you'll be getting a less particularly objectionable word from this point forward.

ihatefall
August 25th, 2014, 14:01
Dude who is whining now?

I would like to go on record that I have no problems with your post, views or proclivities.

Carry on sir.
One day the world will be the skinny fit you envision.

RoflCopter
August 25th, 2014, 14:12
There's boatloads of stuff in my posts that is particularly objectionable and I know it. I didn't realize before that you whiners wanted a forum where nobody ever posts anything particularly objectionable. I do now. So you'll be getting a less particularly objectionable word from this point forward.
"Hayters gon' hayte!" - RoflCopter aka Lil Wayne

Don't let the bitchy people get you down Word, they simply fear progress. Remember, even the Gods among us make mistakes from time to time.

I personally like controversy, it makes for interesting discussion. Otherwise I'm forced to talk about slamming pussy, which makes me one-dimensional.

Gizmotech
August 25th, 2014, 14:36
Fuck them Word, keep posting objectionable shit.

word
August 25th, 2014, 14:37
Dude who is whining now?

I would like to go on record that I have no problems with your post, views or proclivities.

Carry on sir.
One day the world will be the skinny fit you envision.F*ck you; you're one of the people who've been most vocal in your criticism, and what's worse, you did so without actually understanding what you were b*tching about. You accused me of sh*t that I didn't do 'cause all the cool kids were doing it. You did it is this f*cking thread. Eat me.

ihatefall
August 25th, 2014, 14:44
F*ck you; you're one of the people who've been most vocal in your criticism, and what's worse, you did so without actually understanding what you were b*tching about. You accused me of sh*t that I didn't do 'cause all the cool kids were doing it. You did it is this f*cking thread. Eat me.

Read what I just wrote again. And read what I accused you of again.

I never had a problem with your fat culture thread, views, posts or proclivities.
That only thing I called you on was deleting stuff. The post above was to make that clear.
Aka don't feel you need to pull punches for me.
You seem to be apologetic about it so its all good with me.

word
August 25th, 2014, 15:34
Yeah, re-read it...

And f*ck you. You're one of the people who've been the most vocal in your criticism, and what's worse, you did so without actually understanding what you were b*tching about. You accused me of sh*t that I didn't do. You did it in this f*cking thread. Eat me.

SomePeopleJustSaySnow
August 25th, 2014, 18:07
Wait, so we're allowed to swear outside the lounge as long as we put asterisks in place of vowels? What's the point of that?

Anyway, I don't really have a problem with Word, outside of the obvious. Go Word! Up with the Wordocracy!

greyjoy
August 25th, 2014, 18:43
I never had a problem with Word either, even near the end of that thread. God knows I'm inured to people being wrong and loud, having lived in America my whole life. I just find it childish that he thinks he's perfectly justified in calling me a rapist because he has a gut feeling about some unspecific syntax and diction. Equally ridiculous is his previous willingness to "stir the shit" while accusing me of trolling for doing basically the exact same thing.

But apparently he had some unnamed sympathizers among the moderators, so why bother apologizing or even admitting he threw a temper tantrum?

SomePeopleJustSaySnow
August 25th, 2014, 18:52
I never had a problem with Word either, even near the end of that thread. G*d knows I'm inured to people being wrong and loud, having lived in America my whole life. I just find it childish that he thinks he's perfectly justified in calling me a r*pist because he has a g*t feeling about some unspecific s*ntax and diction. Equally ridiculous is his previous willingness to "**** *** ****" while accusing me of tr*lling for doing basically the exact same th*ng.

But a**arently he had ***e u**amed symp*thi*ers among the m*der*tors, so why bother *********** or even admitting he threw a ****** *******?

F*x*d th*t f*r y**.

word
August 25th, 2014, 19:13
Wait, so we're allowed to swear outside the lounge as long as we put asterisks in place of vowels? What's the point of that?We nevar had any problem with swearing. Google did. So, we require a bit of self-censorship from our members. I do hope it's not too much to ask.


I never had a problem with Word either, even near the end of that thread. God knows I'm inured to people being wrong and loud, having lived in America my whole life. I just find it childish that he thinks he's perfectly justified in calling me a rapist because he has a gut feeling about some unspecific syntax and diction. Equally ridiculous is his previous willingness to "stir the shit" while accusing me of trolling for doing basically the exact same thing.

Again, I told you I would be strictly moderating that thread. In addition to being a rapist, are you mentally ill? How much clearer do I have to make things before it will somehow seep through that thick skull of yours? THAT THREAD WAS DIFFERENT. I said it would be strictly moderated, and it was. I have nevar banned or otherwise penalized anyone for posting anything in The Lounge. At the worst, I have edited posts (generally due to racism or something else obviously prohibited by posted rules; occasionally to correct minor formatting errors).


But apparently he had some unnamed sympathizers among the moderators...No, I don't. I think most of them kinda hate me. I certainly don't make their lives any easier. But they're honest, decent people, and they call things pretty fairly.


...so why bother apologizing or even admitting he threw a temper tantrum?I've apologized on a fairly frequent basis, actually--when it's deserved--and generally do not hesitate to admit when I've done something wrong. I'm not gonna apologize for thinking of you as a rapist because that really is what you seem to be.



Screw you guys. Most of you who are jumping on this inexplicable "I have no problem with word" bandwagon are precisely the ones who've resulted precipitated my reduced presence in The Lounge. Reap what you've sown and be thankful for it, b*tches.

ihatefall
August 25th, 2014, 19:27
Yeah, re-read it...

And f*ck you. You're one of the people who've been the most vocal in your criticism, and what's worse, you did so without actually understanding what you were b*tching about. You accused me of sh*t that I didn't do. You did it in this f*cking thread. Eat me.

You forgot to quote yourself! Haha

Dude, take it easy. If you can pull out your red pen every 10 posts I make, likewise you should be able to take some criticism too.

And if I was following the "cool kids" how could I be the most vocal?!? I think I mentioned it like 3 times.

Sorry I brought it up, but seriously stop kicking rocks in the parking lot and grumbling to yourself about it like a freshly disciplined 8 year old.

You apologized, we (mostly) accepted. Get over it. Being the beast that ITIL is, if you show us an open wound, we are going to pour salt in it. You know that.

I think we can all move past this.

SomePeopleJustSaySnow
August 25th, 2014, 19:28
We nevar had any problem with swearing. Google did. So, we require a bit of self-censorship from our members. I do hope it's not too much to ask.

...

Screw you guys. Most of you who are jumping on this inexplicable "I have no problem with word" bandwagon are precisely the ones who've resulted precipitated my reduced presence in The Lounge. Reap what you've sown and be thankful for it, b*tches.

Oh no, not too much to ask at all - I just thought Google were a little stricter than that.

As for the second bit, just to make my personal position clear, I don't have a problem with you, I just think that there's a bit of a disconnect between some of the things you say and how you choose to present yourself/your views on certain topics, that's all.

greyjoy
August 25th, 2014, 20:08
Again, I told you I would be strictly moderating that thread. In addition to being a rapist, are you mentally ill? How much clearer do I have to make things before it will somehow seep through that thick skull of yours? THAT THREAD WAS DIFFERENT. I said it would be strictly moderated, and it was. I have nevar banned or otherwise penalized anyone for posting anything in The Lounge. At the worst, I have edited posts (generally due to racism or something else obviously prohibited by posted rules; occasionally to correct minor formatting errors).

If it was being strictly moderated, why did the discussion break down the way it did? What about strict moderation meant that I wasn't allowed to dispute your claims as vehemently as you hold yours? If you are being logically consistent in your moderation standards on THAT THREAD, then you would have exercised the control you claimed to have and neither posted insults nor responded emotionally to what you perceived as personal attacks.

This isn't really a huge life changing event for me anything. I was content to leave this topic alone, but you just keep insisting you did nothing wrong and everyone is being so mean to you, and you really think it's because of superficial reasons. I don't think you should post any less than you did in the past, unless you're genuinely afraid of being shown how wrong your opinions are.

ihatefall
August 25th, 2014, 20:15
Sometimes, I feel like I am watching a game of rock'em, sock'em robots.
Buttons are pushed, punches are thrown, things are reset but at the end of the day, fighting is all they can really do.

word
August 25th, 2014, 22:26
If it was being strictly moderated, why did the discussion break down the way it did? What about strict moderation meant that I wasn't allowed to dispute your claims as vehemently as you hold yours? If you are being logically consistent in your moderation standards on THAT THREAD, then you would have exercised the control you claimed to have and neither posted insults nor responded emotionally to what you perceived as personal attacks. I kept things on topic. I'm not sure why you're having such trouble grasping this concept. The on-topic posts stayed in the thread, regardless of whether or not the poster was agreeing with me. The off-topic posts were moved (but not deleted). Get it together, man. As far as insulting you... well; as I've said many times... I'm a whale biologist. I calls 'em like I sees 'em. You strike me as a rapist, and pretty much everything you've posted since my initial assessment has only served to cement that judgement. I shudder to think of you being around young children. Or pretty much anyone, for that matter. I'll bet dollars to dimes you were involved in some harassment-related questionable sh*t at your university.


This isn't really a huge life changing event for me anything. I was content to leave this topic alone...
No, you weren't. You brought all this sh*t up in Applying after I'd dropped the whole thing and locked the thread. You obviously revel in this malarkey and should stop lying to yourself and us about that fact.


...but you just keep insisting you did nothing wrong...Did you not read what I posted? Christ, man; you really are mentally ill or something.


I don't think you should post any less than you did in the past, unless you're genuinely afraid of being shown how wrong your opinions are.<removed - BB>

Edit: Also, is English your first language? Might wanna check on your definition of the word "opinion" there, sir.

SomePeopleJustSaySnow
August 25th, 2014, 23:40
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Whoo! Lucky you took that 'u' out there, or that might have been a bit too spicy for site discussion!

word
August 25th, 2014, 23:47
If it weren't for our omnipotent Google Overlords, I'd have left it there! Gotta be on my best behaviour, though...

greyjoy
August 26th, 2014, 01:01
A couple of preliminary points:
1) Although I have no actual emotional or intellectual interest in this fight, I do enjoy it in the abstract. Arguing on the internet was always a guilty pleasure of mine, and though I did walk away in the interest of Mothy's peace and love accord, I am eternally a victim of my own "Somebody is wrong on the Internet" sense.
2) While I find it as ridiculous that you cannot talk about me without using the word "rapist" as I do that you cannot talk about women without using the word "fatty", I don't take offense to your repeated use of the word. You cannot get a rise out of me with such simple tactics



I kept things on topic. I'm not sure why you're having such trouble grasping this concept. The on-topic posts stayed in the thread, regardless of whether or not the poster was agreeing with me. The off-topic posts were moved (but not deleted).
Here's the thing: I never really busted your balls for splitting the topic off. I never complained that you edited posts, deleted them, or otherwise censored my opinions. In all of your bitching and moaning here, you've implied that I have been on your ass about this, when in fact it was other posters who levied those charges. The only things that I have been consistently accusing you of is incorrectly identifying my argument as trolling, and acting like a child


Get it together, man. As far as insulting you... well; as I've said many times... I'm a whale biologist
I too enjoy Futurama. You see me, trying to build bridges here?


I calls 'em like I sees 'em. You strike me as a rapist, and pretty much everything you've posted since my initial assessment has only served to cement that judgement.
But you know, I don't think I do strike you as a rapist. Nothing you've said has given me any reason to believe that. For instance here is where you first mention it:


Edit: I'm kinda curious--is this how you react when people talk about rape culture? Are you a rapist AND a retard?
Note here that you came out with a barb that you trusted (from my past conversations in other threads where I took a hard stance against rape culture) would sting me on a personal level. It was not an actual accusation of being a rapist, it was just a scare quote in the manner of "Did Glenn Beck rape and murder a girl back in 1990?"

When I casually parried this last ditch effort of yours to make me look and feel bad by pointing out that Rape Culture is a thing that exists, and Fat Culture doesn't, you then doubled down and insisted that I gave off a rapist vibe, something which you fail to even begin to describe the nature of. But somehow every one of my posts exemplifies this quality in me.
Later, you admitted that you were just taunting me.

it just seemed like a reasonable way as any to deal with his trolling
You followed it up with an excuse about me saying things rapists might say, which is obviously a lie. Literally everybody else gave you shit about your accusation. Nobody thinks that you can identify me as even a probable rapist by the things I've said here, and everyone noticed that you never mentioned it until after you had no way to win your argument about Fat Culture.


I shudder to think of you being around young children. Or pretty much anyone, for that matter. I'll bet dollars to dimes you were involved in some harassment-related questionable sh*t at your university.
Too bad I guess, on all counts.



No, you weren't. You brought all this sh*t up in Applying after I'd dropped the whole thing and locked the thread. You obviously revel in this malarkey and should stop lying to yourself and us about that fact.
Did I do that? This thread is the summation of that malarkey, and aside from my participation today, I had one post in this thread, on the second page. You do realize I'm not IHateFall, right? That he has an almost entirely separate complaint against you that I have neither supported nor acknowledged? Both he and Jiggit were the ones that began this topic, and I simply reiterated my position that you are a child without a sense of dignity or self awareness once, and left you to wallow.



Did you not read what I posted? Christ, man; you really are mentally ill or something.
You see, although I did insult you in the fat culture thread, it was never really at the expense of my argument. Whereas literally the only thing you have right now is repeating the same insults over and over attempting to make me angry. I don't understand why you think this tactic works when it has failed so many times in such a short period of time


<removed - BB>
ibidem


Edit: Also, is English your first language? Might wanna check on your definition of the word "opinion" there, sir.

Your opinion on the existence of fat culture (that its existence==TRUE) is demonstrably wrong. As are plenty of your conclusions dependent upon your false premise. I'm sure there are plenty of things that you're not wrong about, but since you've decided that this place is too whiny for you to talk about them, I guess we won't know.
It's really very clear that you're insecure about your own ability to argue your points well. You admitted several times that you were incapable of stating what you mean. Moreover, when other people told you that were wrong, instead of admitting it, you basically accused them of disagreeing with you because they are fat, or because they just hate you baselessly

I'm sorry I cleaned it up, and pretty sorry I started it in the first place. It's obvious where ITIL's sympathies lie, and not really hard to guess why.
I'll admit I can't decide which option you're implying. I would bet that you think everyone who disagrees with you is just a jealous fat person, but honestly at this point I don't know what your motivations are, other than trying to burn me by any means possible.

You're a sad case, word.

word
August 26th, 2014, 08:42
<removed - BB>

Please keep things on topic. The sadness of my case, my ability (or lack thereof) to effectively argue my position, my opinion of the existence of fat culture, and greyjoy's proclivity toward rape are all quite off-topic. If you'd like to discuss any of those things, please do so in The Lounge. My sincere apologies for contributing to the off-topic posts.

greyjoy
August 26th, 2014, 10:00
What is the topic?

greyjoy
August 26th, 2014, 10:10
Because from what I can tell, this topic split off because people were dissatisfied with your ability to effectively moderate this forum. Thus, your erratic behavior and childish tantrums are very much on the topic of whether or not you should keep your moderator status.

I honestly can't see how Ini would be a less effective moderator than you.

mothy
August 26th, 2014, 10:54
Where does all this hate really get us in the end?

word
August 26th, 2014, 13:05
It's simple, greypist. You see, contrary to what you apparently believe, I'm allowed to have a personality here, however abhorrent you may find it. This IS a discussion about my moderation... which is why my fun fat-rants have no place in it. I'm a fairly effective moderator--I approve newbie posts, I keep an eye on discussions in Applying and elsewhere, I edit/address racism and other inappropriate content, etc. I'm on a lot and do a pretty decent job. Oh, I've been known to make a mistake from time to time, but on the whole, I'm all right. Moar than that, I actively seek out fellow moderators based on their willingness and ability to put me in my place--often in order to provide some sort of balance against my malarkey. But my malarkey isn't inappropriate here. It goes down in the right forums and it isn't prohibited. It also doesn't interfere with my ability to moderate this forum. And, frankly, the idea that you can come in here and claim that I shouldn't be a moderator is laughable at best. I can promise, whatever childishness or erratic behaviour I may have displayed, I've also contributed a hell of a lot in the way of helpful information.

How about this--instead of just attacking members of the moderation staff that you don't like, why don't you follow mothy's advice and go post something useful or helpful for a change?

RoflCopter
August 26th, 2014, 14:00
I'll throw in my two cents just for the hell of it.

Outside of this discussion and the animosity you two seem to harbor for one another .. I like Word.

I like GreyJoy too.

Hell, I even like Jiggit! We have one of those love-hate relationships, which I believe leads to great friendship!

I wasn't really part of the "community" during the whole, "censorship era," but I like Words moderation so far.

"You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." - Adolf Hitler aka Joseph Stalin aka Gimp Legged Roosevelt aka Winston Churchill

SomePeopleJustSaySnow
August 26th, 2014, 14:07
I'll throw in my two cents just for the hell of it.

Outside of this discussion and the animosity you two seem to harbor for one another .. I like Word.

I like GreyJoy too.

Hell, I even like Jiggit! We have one of those love-hate relationships, which I believe leads to great friendship!

I wasn't really part of the "community" during the whole, "censorship era," but I like Words moderation so far.

"You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." - Adolf Hitler aka Joseph Stalin aka Gimp Legged Roosevelt aka Winston Churchill

Wait, your two cents is that you just 'like' everyone? How inane is that?

Jiggit
August 26th, 2014, 14:15
Reminds me of someone...

SomePeopleJustSaySnow
August 26th, 2014, 14:15
That's the joke.

RoflCopter
August 26th, 2014, 14:19
That's the joke.

You can't be telling jokes, haven't you figured out that Jiggit is a LITERAL person.


"Like" is a strong word, true.

How about this, I don't dislike anyone.

If you PM me you can get some insight in to my personality.

SomePeopleJustSaySnow
August 26th, 2014, 14:20
If you PM me

Aaargh!

RoflCopter
August 26th, 2014, 14:22
I'd like Tobio's two cents, or one CHIT, on this subject.

EDITED FOR POLITICAL CORRECTNESS.

Jiggit
August 26th, 2014, 14:30
That's the joke.

Ohh I didn't get it

SomePeopleJustSaySnow
August 26th, 2014, 14:31
Ohh I didn't get it

Ba-dum-tish

tobio
August 26th, 2014, 15:26
What am I even two-cent'ing on here... I haven't exactly been around long enough to give a proper judgement. Unless you want to know how I feel about word and the fat-shaming thread?

SomePeopleJustSaySnow
August 26th, 2014, 15:28
Don't be fooled - Rofltractor is just trying to get you interested so he can blindside you with PM requests.

tobio
August 26th, 2014, 15:31
edit: im sleep deprived and immediately regretted this post so bye bye it goes even though snow basically quoted it fuck

BeckyJones
August 26th, 2014, 15:32
Hey everybody. I had the first post in this "thread" and then it was moved. So i feel like i should chime in here.

What camp am i in? Am I in the pro word or anti word camp? well the answer is simple. As a person, I have no problems with him, but as a mod I feel he has gone on too many tantrums and power trips. This isn't just a greyjoy/fat culture bullshit thing, There have been several times that word has gotten pissy at things and thrown that mod power around. I bring up that osakavamp chick as an example. I even talked to her in PM and told her that it wasn't all bad here, but she reiterated a point several people have come up with "word was hostile, and threw his mod dick around to prove his point"

If he was just a normal forum poster it wouldn't be a problem IMO. We all get pissy、 call me a bad husband or father and I get my panties in a bunch sometimes. And sometimes we poke and prod too far. But seriously, word. I am talking to you directly right now. You do sometimes go on a bit of a crazy megalomania spree from time to time. Reading this thread is only solidifying that for me. Seriously, some of the shit you are saying isn't funny, and it doesn't look like you are in control. Also, to the other mods and people on this forum I would like to point out I've been told to lay off jigg and the whole paedo shit because it goes beyond "funny" and light hearted into "criminal accusation" territory. Word, you should know that, the other mods... you should know that. So you shouldn't be calling the kraken a rapist,.. If you hold the standards you hold for me, and the other plebs on this site... so too should the mod staff... more so even.

I know I'm a troll, piece of shit and probably the last person who should be giving advice on this forum. But for a place that is trying to foster more "new" people, like greyjoy and osaka and all that. Having a mod go on full blown attack, move posts, delete posts, and temp ban someone because they believe their opinion is right isn't the way to go about doing it. It just isn't. Osaka was pretty much scared off, btw... she might still be lurking but for the most part you guys jumping on her and "slut" shaming her so quick and hard was really off putting. Word. you were a part of that. Sorry dude, but that is the truth.

Also, some of us have been restrained in what we say about you because to be honest, sometimes we like you. Sometimes I like you, but sometimes you say and do some things on here that give me pause and make me wonder if I am the troll, or if you are the troll

SomePeopleJustSaySnow
August 26th, 2014, 15:38
well any pm is better than stephen harperHAHAHAHAHAHAHA F*CKING CANADIAN JOKE GET ON MY C*NTSUCKING LEVEL

​yeah okay bye im outta here


Fixed that for you.

tobio
August 26th, 2014, 15:51
I regret everything.

SomePeopleJustSaySnow
August 26th, 2014, 16:21
edit: im sleep deprived and immediately regretted this post so bye bye it goes even though snow basically quoted it f*ck

Fixed that one too.

Antonath
August 26th, 2014, 16:27
Hey everybody. I had the first post in this "thread" and then it was moved. So i feel like i should chime in here.

(Snipped)
Well stated, reasonable opinions, which I mostly agree with. Especially the "criminal accusations" part. Like I said before: offer proof (and alert the authorities) or cut it the hell out.

word
August 26th, 2014, 16:32
you are the trollYour perception of my responses toward osakavamp are a bit off; I certainly didn't do any "slut-shaming." As for the rest of it, well, yeah, some of it is legitimate criticism... but it's nothing that hasn't been said before--generally by Jiggit, and generally a bit more eloquently. You'll notice that I've been pretty well-behaved evar since summer vacation, but it doesn't matter, because this is a pile-on and that's just the way ITIL works. I continue to give greypist sh*t because he's done nothing but attack me since his perceived "win" in a disagreement with me, and it annoys me.

You'll notice I don't have a big pile of awards under my name? I did that, intentionally, in an effort to reduce my perceived representation of the site. I've also recruited new mods, encouraged our current mods to put me in my place when I get out of control, and, in the days since summer vacation, have substantially reduced my presence on this site in general. Most of the moderating I've been doing has gone unnoticed (which really is the way it should be), yet criticism has only increased.

Has it occurred to any of you arsehats that you may have already achieved the results you wanted and are now just b*tching for b*tching's sake?

SomePeopleJustSaySnow
August 26th, 2014, 16:47
Words

I wouldn't say it's a pile on, and I think Becky did actually raise some points that jiggit hasn't (to my knowledge, anyway), BUT I think the main thing is that you seem to coming at this from an odd angle. People are saying 'don't do bad modding things, don't go crazy with arguments, stop calling Greyjoy a rapist' and you're replying 'I'm not doing bad modding things, I'm trying to hold back on the arguments, and Greyjoy is a rapist I have a sense for these things'.

Do you not see how that might still be worthy of some attention? When a kitten triples itself in the guest bedroom you don't clear up the p*ss and sh*t but leave kitten puke everywhere and then walk out patting yourself on the back for doing a good job.

word
August 26th, 2014, 16:52
All right, I'll drop it. Let's see what happens.

mothy
August 26th, 2014, 22:29
I regret everything.

Don't steal my schtick.

RoflCopter
August 27th, 2014, 03:40
I regret everything.
Oh lawdy! Don't worry your sweet little cheeks off.. Word has been drawing the attention of all the try hards as of late. Your comments will go unnoticed, save a few comments from DogMan.

On a side note -
See Jiggit, the ladies can't refuse me. ;)

Beer Baron
August 27th, 2014, 04:26
Ok guys, this is what's going to happen...

All word-bashing stops now. In fact, I'm bringing in a new site-wide rule. If you disagree with a moderation decision, you may use the contact us link at the bottom of the site and directly communicate with the site administrator. Public "mod bashing" is unacceptable and will be a bannable offence.

This rule is effective immediately.

For the record, I support word. The mod job is a thankless task. You can never please everyone - I know because I've been there and got the scars to prove it.

Anyway, if you want to complain, vent, discuss or whatever recent mod decisions / behaviour, report it to me using "Contact Us".

This is the end of this discussion.

word
August 27th, 2014, 08:38
When I logged in this morning and saw several posts from BB, my initial thought was along the lines of, "Oh, crap; I'm in trouble." That's pretty telling. I very much appreciate the unreserved support. It's also quite clear to me that I'm not especially innocent of wrongdoing. This recent kerfluffle has been a good wake-up call for me and I'll be trying to respond accordingly.

For those of you who've offered legitimate, constructive criticism of anything I've done, please rest assured that your responses have not fallen upon deaf ears.