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starfish
January 22nd, 2015, 06:40
Just how bad is the flight that they set you up with? Are the layovers reasonable or do they scrape the bottom of the barrel for deals that have you circumnavigating the globe for 32 hours straight?

Also, I read somewhere in the official documents that with sufficient notice, accompanying family members can be booked on the same flight at the participant's expense. I know what flights are supposed to cost, but what can I expect to pay to book the the flight through JET?

Thanks

uthinkimlost?
January 22nd, 2015, 07:59
Flights are pretty direct.

Costs for family will vary. I'd delay their arrival a day, to be honest. It lets you fish for better deals with other airlines and will give you a day to figure out what the Hell you're doing.

Shincantsen
January 22nd, 2015, 08:13
The flights are handled by a travel agency your consulate/embassy hires and are usually fairly direct (I haven't heard of a lot of cases where you'd have to have more than one layover).

I'd agree that it's better to have your family come later - even having them wait a week may be smart, as you should be settled into your apartment/house by then and finished with all the beginning stuff like opening a bank account.

webstaa
January 22nd, 2015, 08:32
Due to the fact that you have to spend 2 days in Tokyo for orientation, it is better if they came a few days (up to a week) later. Maybe even later than that (like after first paycheck in late August.) Gives you time to sort out housing and other necessities.

The flights the JET participants fly out on are definitely not the cheapest available. Usually because they depart from major airports direct to Narita. You can take advantage of the deals that make skiplagging possible to fly into an airport much closer or more convenient than Narita.

word
January 22nd, 2015, 08:51
I, too, always recommend that people wait a little while to bring their family over. It allows time for you to go through Tokyo orientation, examine your living conditions in person, meet your BoE and coworkers one-on-one, get a feel for things, prepare for their arrival, etc.

However, upon recommending this, some doofus invariably pops in with some "I brought my family with me to TO and it was awesome and everybody loved me and them and everything was rainbows and unicorns."

So do whatever you want; most people do, anyway.

My flight was not direct; it flew from Houston to Chicago to Narita, which was annoying because DFW direct to NRT would've made a lot more sense for me (I had to drive six hours to Houston).

The worst part about the flight, though, is probably the fact that you're likely to be seated next to another ALT.

Zolrak 22
January 22nd, 2015, 08:54
Eh, if you don't like them simply fall asleep, read something or pray there's an in-flight movie. No reason to form an awful conversation.

Ini
January 22nd, 2015, 09:13
trying to ignore someone who is totally oblivious to the fact you dont want to talk because they are a JET and therefore has no social skills can be tricky when you are stuck next to them for 12 hours.

uthinkimlost?
January 22nd, 2015, 09:17
You can usually arrange to get seating changed a few weeks before you leave.

Jiggit
January 22nd, 2015, 09:22
From the UK at least you can try changing your seat at the airport when you check in.

I got offered an upgrade to first class for about $150 and turned it down because I wanted to chat with other ALTs. Ah, to be young and foolish...

johnny
January 22nd, 2015, 09:43
$150 to upgrade to first class? Man, the luck some people have!

Anyway, on my flight, most of us just watched the movies available on the little TVs.

naginataonthebrain
January 22nd, 2015, 09:49
Thinking way ahead but is there an airline that JET prefers to use when booking? And can we get skymiles/whatever rewards program one uses these days for this flight?

webstaa
January 22nd, 2015, 09:58
You fly whatever they book you on, usually a code-share with a Japanese flag carrier. So one of JAL or ANA's partners is probable. You can get Star Alliance or Oneworld points if you use your frequent flier card when you check in, even if it isn't with your normal airline.

naginataonthebrain
January 22nd, 2015, 10:02
You fly whatever they book you on, usually a code-share with a Japanese flag carrier. So one of JAL or ANA's partners is probable. You can get Star Alliance or Oneworld points if you use your frequent flier card when you check in, even if it isn't with your normal airline.

Good to know. Guess my American Airlines membership rewards card might actually be useful for once (the only time I fly American is when I have to fly to DFW, heaven forbid).

sharpinthefang
January 22nd, 2015, 12:05
If your family is coming over, tell them to come later and do flight searches through skyscanner.net. On there you can search the cheapest dates in the month to fly.

Also really good if you have a 4 day weekend or something coming up and dont know where to go. Just type 'everywhere' into the destination box and it will tell you the cheapest flights to anywhere in the world for those dates.

BeckyJones
January 22nd, 2015, 14:01
if family is coming, wait a week, maybe two. First three days will be in Tokyo doing a bunch of JET BS. Then you have to get to your placement and do a bunch of more BS. Your SO or kids will be in the way, expensive and bored to tears. wait a week, or two to give you a chance to settle into your place and do all the ceremony BS that you have to do.

nostos
January 22nd, 2015, 18:56
Hello, I am the aforementioned doofus.

I brought my family (spouse + child) with me directly - same flight and we stayed together for Tokyo orientation.

First things - these were the costs for bringing my family along:

Flight to Tokyo for dependents: $1116.16 (spouse) + $930.16 (child) = $2046.32
Shuttle to Keio for dependents: ~$32
Tokyo accommodation for dependents: ~$383 (includes breakfast for spouse and child)

(You'll also have to pay for your family's transportation to your placement of course, which for me was another bus ride [$53] and plane tickets [$517])

I flew from Toronto. It was a direct flight. As a related note, yes, you could get points for it.
I booked their seats through the travel agency used by JET. After you're shortlisted they will send you an email with a form you need to fill out. At that time you can contact them about getting seats for your family members. Alternatively you can book yourself - with more flexibility I bet you can find cheaper prices. The other thing is that we were not able to sit together. JET booked out a section of the plane and all of the JET participants were sitting within that section. Because my spouse is not a participant, he had to sit separately with the kid. We tried to change the seats when we checked in, but there was nothing open. He wasn't too far away though; the travel agent obviously tried to get him as close as possible.

Related, we stayed together in a suite in the Keio hotel. If your family is willing to stay separately, you can find cheaper hotels.

Anyway, this was just the option that worked best for us, mostly because we have a child. A lot of people will discourage bringing your family from the start, but really, just do what you think is best. Being together through TO wasn't great, but it wasn't awful by any means.

greyjoy
January 23rd, 2015, 17:45
Good to know. Guess my American Airlines membership rewards card might actually be useful for once (the only time I fly American is when I have to fly to DFW, heaven forbid).

You applied through Atlanta, no? Last year Atlanta flew AA through DFW.

naginataonthebrain
January 24th, 2015, 00:22
You applied through Atlanta, no? Last year Atlanta flew AA through DFW.

Ah, I see...I'm surprised that they wouldn't fly direct with Delta (especially since Atlanta is their hub).

starfish
January 24th, 2015, 16:43
I had a long response written out but then my browser crashed and I lost everything.

Quick summary:



Thanks for all the feedback!
My concern over flights stems from a horrible experience with a former employer where they booked the worst flights possible on the basis of cost alone, resulting in unnecessarily long 12-hour domestic trips from SAN to ATL by way of ORD
I'd definitely prefer to fly everybody out after the fact, but two toddlers on a 16-hour flight is too much to expect my wife to handle on her own. Putting them in a hotel is cheaper than flying home to escort them all back so it is probably for the best that we all leave at the same time
Even if stuck with fellow JETs, enough liquor will make anybody's company tolerable
Thanks for pointing out ground transportation will need to be arranged to get family to my potential placement location; I had completely overlooked that

word
January 24th, 2015, 17:13
Depending on your placement, you may want to wait to bring your family over for financial reasons alone. If your placement isn't near Tokyo, it may prove to be substantially cheaper to fly your family into another airport (closer than NRT).

Gizmotech
January 24th, 2015, 22:06
Star, if you're flying out of Canada, you get at most one transfer... often not even that. (I had a hop to Toronto then direct to narita 13h)

coop52
January 24th, 2015, 22:28
You should keep in mind, too, that mid-August is the peak summer travel season here, so airline tickets are going to be more expensive, and ground transportation will be crowded and harder to get. You could probably save a lot of money just by waiting until the end of August or the beginning of September.

word
January 24th, 2015, 23:42
You should keep in mind, too, that mid-August is the peak summer travel season here, so airline tickets are going to be more expensive, and ground transportation will be crowded and harder to get. You could probably save a lot of money just by waiting until the end of August or the beginning of September.

word

I saved a rather large chunk of money by bringing MG here in mid-late September, rather than August.

PuddingHead
January 24th, 2015, 23:56
Yeah, if you're coming from the US, tickets tends to drop sometime after Labor Day for some reason. October's even cheaper, but I'm not too sure that you'd want to wait that long.

haitch40
January 25th, 2015, 21:35
trying to ignore someone who is totally oblivious to the fact you dont want to talk because they are a JET and therefore has no social skills can be tricky when you are stuck next to them for 12 hours.
But you are also a JET and therefore also have no social skills. It would be like a university pc gaming club.

starfish
January 27th, 2015, 06:37
But you are also a JET and therefore also have no social skills. It would be like a university pc gaming club.

When I walked into the interview room this morning it felt like an abattoir; a bunch of people sitting around, staring at each other in silence while waiting to be led to the slaughter. I tried making smalltalk with some of them to lighten the mood. It was like pulling teeth.

BeckyJones
January 27th, 2015, 08:30
antisocial jets? NOOOOOoooo. never

mothy
January 27th, 2015, 09:32
Most JETs just seem antisocial to other JETs because most JETs aren't worth talking to.

Shincantsen
January 27th, 2015, 23:40
But of course, the people posting are the only normal JETs. It's everyone else who's weird! All those weirdos on the plane, and you, the shining beacon of normality.

starfish
January 28th, 2015, 02:25
But of course, the people posting are the only normal JETs. It's everyone else who's weird! All those weirdos on the plane, and you, the shining beacon of normality.

IKR

laserlight
January 28th, 2015, 03:02
But of course, the people posting are the only normal JETs. It's everyone else who's weird! All those weirdos on the plane, and you, the shining beacon of normality.

Thanks, for a moment there I was almost hoping not to get shortlisted lest I become a weirdo.

ambrosse
January 28th, 2015, 03:14
If people ignore me on the plane, I'll ignore them. If they strike up a conversation, I will not stop talking.
You've been warned, folks.

Zolrak 22
January 28th, 2015, 03:59
If people ignore me on the plane, I'll ignore them. If they strike up a conversation, I will not stop talking.
You've been warned, folks.
*shivers*

starfish
January 28th, 2015, 04:00
*shivers*

Upgrading to economy comfort gets you out of the pleb seats and gets you unlimited liquor. Win-win, I'd say.

naginataonthebrain
January 28th, 2015, 04:08
Tbh, if ATL gets us that direct flight to Narita with Delta, I will use my points to get upgraded to economy comfort (or better, business class). I've done that trek in a middle seat, economy class and it was awful. Screaming children in the front and back of my seat and it was nearly impossible to sleep unless I wanted to get cozy with my seat mate. >.>

Zolrak 22
January 28th, 2015, 04:13
Screaming children in the front and back of my seat and it was nearly impossible to sleep unless I wanted to get cozy with my seat mate. >.>

To be fair, you'll be surrounded by JET applicants.

So yes, you'll have screaming children front and back, just not the age you have in mind. [emoji14]

ambrosse
January 28th, 2015, 04:15
To be fair, you'll be surrounded by JET applicants.

So yes, you'll have screaming children front and back, just not the age you have in mind. [emoji14]

lol

nostos
January 28th, 2015, 06:39
It's true though.

They had free alcohol on my flight. People decided to have a party in front of my seat. Rageful times ensued.

Zolrak 22
January 28th, 2015, 06:44
Free alcohol on a 10+ hour flight?

Who's the genius that came up with the idea? [emoji28]

mothy
January 28th, 2015, 07:48
But of course, the people posting are the only normal JETs. It's everyone else who's weird! All those weirdos on the plane, and you, the shining beacon of normality.

How dare you call me a normal JET. Take that behavior out of applying.

nostos
January 28th, 2015, 08:10
Free alcohol on a 10+ hour flight?

Who's the genius that came up with the idea? [emoji28]


Canadians. :roll:

Gizmotech
January 28th, 2015, 10:39
Hey, thank fuck for free booze on a long flight.

that being said, I would have MUCH preferred not to go over with the rest of the JETs to be honest. They spent hours talking about the most mundane shit, 3 that were sitting together were fucking loud the entire time, as soon as one group finally shut up the other group started, and my neighbour wanted to talk to me about japan the entire fucking flight to which I had no interest in doing (I hate planes).


Thank fuck you get in, land, go to the airport and have nothing to do after, cuz that 2 hour cat nap afterwards was fucking bliss.

mothy
January 28th, 2015, 11:07
I was able to get my wife on the same flight as me, but not sat next to me. The JET next to me wouldn't trade seats with her because he wanted to talk to the other JETs. But really I was the only one who he was close enough to have much of a conversation with. His attempts to strike up a conversation did not go well.

haitch40
January 28th, 2015, 11:14
I can deal with parties all the flight. It was only 2 years ago I had a party on a coach all the way to Berlin. If I really want to sleep then I just order more alcohol.

uthinkimlost?
January 28th, 2015, 11:16
I sat quietly watching my movies in a nice aisle seat at the bulkhead behind first class, while rest of the poor fools sat in the cheap, easily-booked seats in the tail section.

In all likelihood you will never see the people from your consulate again, anyway. Your real friends are made in your prefecture or at TO.

starfish
January 28th, 2015, 11:21
I was able to get my wife on the same flight as me, but not sat next to me. The JET next to me wouldn't trade seats with her because he wanted to talk to the other JETs. But really I was the only one who he was close enough to have much of a conversation with. His attempts to strike up a conversation did not go well.

What a dick.

(Him, that is)

mothy
January 28th, 2015, 12:18
I can deal with parties all the flight. It was only 2 years ago I had a party on a coach all the way to Berlin. If I really want to sleep then I just order more alcohol.

Sounds like a JET already.

word
January 28th, 2015, 13:25
I was able to get my wife on the same flight as me, but not sat next to me. The JET next to me wouldn't trade seats with her because he wanted to talk to the other JETs. But really I was the only one who he was close enough to have much of a conversation with. His attempts to strike up a conversation did not go well.
Wow. You're a better man than I, because I would not have reacted well. I probably would have made it a point to get vomit-blasting drunk and make his flight the worst he had or would ever experience. Or something worse. I dunno.

haitch40
January 28th, 2015, 13:35
I bet I would end up being nervous some of the flight as to what I had just done, what is this new life going to be like and should I have stayed at home?

word
January 28th, 2015, 13:39
I bet I would end up being nervous some of the flight as to what I had just done, what is this new life going to be like and should I have stayed at home?
LOL Really? There were a couple of people who apparently felt this way, but I found it totally confusing. I was pretty much just excited 100% of the way there.

haitch40
January 28th, 2015, 13:41
LOL Really? There were a couple of people who apparently felt this way, but I found it totally confusing. I was pretty much just excited 100% of the way there.
I would be excited as well but with it being so far from home if something goes wrong you are on your own.

Jiggit
January 28th, 2015, 13:41
I was pretty scared of Japanese people when I got here.

haitch40
January 28th, 2015, 13:42
I was pretty scared of Japanese people when I got here.
They were likely quite scared of you as well.

uthinkimlost?
January 28th, 2015, 13:47
They were likely quite scared of you as well.

Only because his pants were around his ankles.

word
January 28th, 2015, 13:49
Huh, weird. Maybe it was just my complete naiveté or something, but I was never worried in the slightest.

Gizmotech
January 28th, 2015, 13:49
I bet I would end up being nervous some of the flight as to what I had just done, what is this new life going to be like and should I have stayed at home?


LOL Really? There were a couple of people who apparently felt this way, but I found it totally confusing. I was pretty much just excited 100% of the way there.

Nah, I get where he's coming from. I wasn't exactly excited about the trip to Japan, there were a lot of last second regrets just as I was getting settled in. By the time I got to Japan most of that had disappeared but in those final moment before take off from Toronto it really hit me that this was it, and I've just left behind pretty much everything.

It's a pretty powerful feeling.

mothy
January 28th, 2015, 14:46
LOL Really? There were a couple of people who apparently felt this way, but I found it totally confusing. I was pretty much just excited 100% of the way there.

I don't know if I was excited, but it was definitely not until I reached Saitama that I began questioning my life choices. The plane ride I had nothing but happy thoughts, other than wanting to murder the guy next to me.

Jiggit
January 28th, 2015, 15:39
Huh, weird. Maybe it was just my complete naiveté or something, but I was never worried in the slightest.

Not like really scared, but I wanted to make a good impression. People kept saying "people won't care if you mess up because you're a gaijin" but I didn't really want people to think I'm a bumbling foreign idiot. I'm still a bit like that, tbh.

haitch40
January 28th, 2015, 15:49
Not like really scared, but I wanted to make a good impression. People kept saying "people won't care if you mess up because you're a gaijin" but I didn't really want people to think I'm a bumbling foreign idiot. I'm still a bit like that, tbh.
We know you are still a bumbling foreign idiot.

Ini
January 28th, 2015, 15:50
I would be excited as well but with it being so far from home if something goes wrong you are on your own.

time to cut the apron strings, junior. Man up

word
January 28th, 2015, 15:55
Not like really scared, but I wanted to make a good impression. People kept saying "people won't care if you mess up because you're a gaijin" but I didn't really want people to think I'm a bumbling foreign idiot. I'm still a bit like that, tbh.
Eh, I get that, although these days, I'm not really as concerned. Most of the ones who think I'm a bumbling foreign idiot would think that no matter how capable or intelligent I might demonstrate myself to be. I did put a lot of pressure on myself when I first got here, though, and it took me a while to grow out of that (I still have that tendency, a little, but it's been tempered by experience).

webstaa
January 29th, 2015, 09:58
On the flight, I downed a couple of drinks (on a pretty much empty stomach) and slept through all but the (not inedible) airline food. Then got my shit, got on the bus and slept all the way to Keio. Which ended up being around 2 hours because of traffic. There were way to many ALTs (the super fucking chatty ultra genki assholes) in my section of the plane, but luckily I moved to an empty seat, put on the headphones and zonked right out.

Although, I did get to see someone wigging out at the Keio. Turns out he ended up staying in the country for less than 24 hours...

uthinkimlost?
January 29th, 2015, 10:02
Although, I did get to see someone wigging out at the Keio. Turns out he ended up staying in the country for less than 24 hours...

Nice. What was he doing?

haitch40
January 29th, 2015, 10:04
Although, I did get to see someone wigging out at the Keio. Turns out he ended up staying in the country for less than 24 hours...
He got fired before he even started? That is classic.

Zolrak 22
January 29th, 2015, 10:05
He got fired before he even started? That is classic.
I'd like to think he probably burned out too quickly.

Ini
January 29th, 2015, 10:05
you'd be surprised how many JETs never make it outside the keio. There seems to be a story every year of one person who has a breakdown and quits.

haitch40
January 29th, 2015, 10:07
WTF is wrong with them? They can't take a luxury hotel and a few presentations?

uthinkimlost?
January 29th, 2015, 10:09
That luxury hotel room will be shared with two fucks from your consulate. If you don't want to sit next to them on a plane, just wait until one stumbles in from the red light district at 4 am and tries to spoon.

Zolrak 22
January 29th, 2015, 10:09
WTF is wrong with them? They can't take a luxury hotel and a few presentations?
It's more like,

"I'm finally here, now what?"

Then they realize it's not what they thought.

Or they think about the way they are putting their life on hold, away from their friends and family.

It's why they are so "Genki", thinking they can fool themselves into being positive.

Ini
January 29th, 2015, 10:11
WTF is wrong with them? They can't take a luxury hotel and a few presentations?

they get there, realise what they have done and cant handle
being so far from home if something goes wrong you are on your own.

haitch40
January 29th, 2015, 10:12
As long as the guys freaking out are in the minority then I am happy.

webstaa
January 29th, 2015, 10:23
Nice. What was he doing?

First time I saw him: arguing with one of the Keio staff (a bellboy) about luggage and something else when I got to the Keio (around 6ish pm.) I came down from putting luggage in my room to see him the second time - he was sitting in a chair near the lobby fuming and talking loudly into his phone about how useless everybody at the hotel was (closer to 9pm.) Third time he was being (full on) yelled at in one of the orientation rooms by a CLAIR TO staffer - and a Japanese staffer to boot (about 30 minutes later.) The guy was doing his best, 'I can do whatever here because TO is useless etc' and the CLAIR guy just went off on him after about 45 seconds. Last time I saw him he was sobbing and ranting about how Japan was a complete waste of time while waiting for a taxi to the airport at about 11pm. It was glorious.

There was someone else who just collapsed into a puddle of tears on the second day of orientation (after the 'Life in Japan without Japanese' workshop.) I guess she didn't realize moving 6000 miles or more to a foreign country to live on your own for the first time and not know any Japanese might be a bit overwhelming. Especially when someone tells you over and over for 30 minutes that 'No-one will speak English to you. You are fucked if you don't focus 100% on learning Japanese.' I think she ended up staying and at least going to her prefecture - IIRC it was Hyogo.

haitch40
January 29th, 2015, 10:32
they get there, realise what they have done and cant handle
I thought that would kick in after a week or 2 or when they were on the plane.

hiddenlee22
January 29th, 2015, 10:42
they get there, realise what they have done and cant handle

I don't understand. What exactly did they think they were signing up for?

Zolrak 22
January 29th, 2015, 10:45
I don't understand. What exactly did they think they were signing up for?
This is culture shock, it doesn't have to be logical.

I remember suffering from culture shock the first time I was overseas.

My boss was an ***** and I had a nasty cold that barely allowed me to breath.

After the first week (and some vitamin pills), both were "magically" gone.

I still had occasional WTF moments from stuff I found weird, but nothing that made me regret being there.

haitch40
January 29th, 2015, 10:45
I don't understand. What exactly did they think they were signing up for?
Sometimes people just don't realise until it gets to the moment. Hence why you always see people quit uni during freshers week.

mothy
January 29th, 2015, 10:57
WTF is wrong with them? They can't take a luxury hotel and a few presentations?

In their defense, the presentations are pretty terrible.

haitch40
January 29th, 2015, 12:37
I have to ask. Has anyone ever been stopped by customs when getting to Japan or before leaving?

Zolrak 22
January 29th, 2015, 12:41
*raises an eyebrow*

As long as there's no reason to...

I don't see why they should.

uthinkimlost?
January 29th, 2015, 12:43
They do random searches. A Jet in my group had their bags checked and I was searched another time, on a non-Jet related trip.

Leave the baggies of baby powder and uncensored porn at home.

word
January 29th, 2015, 12:44
Yeah; I have once upon returning from a vacation to the Philippines. You almost certainly won't be when arriving for the first time with a bunch of JETs. If you're bringing anything that would get you arrested (drugs, pornography, weapons, etc.), then you're probably stupid enough to completely screw yourself eventually whether Customs catches you or not.

frayedflower
January 29th, 2015, 13:02
Obviously I haven't done any JET related traveling, but I've gone to Japan twice before (one for a vacation with friends and once with a small study abroad group) and I think the only issue I ever saw with customs was some girl got her fancy Japanese letter opener taken away or something.

johnny
January 29th, 2015, 13:25
One thing I might have an issue with though is the fact I have never been on a plane for more than 3 hours. I may end up wanting to die after being sat in cramped seats so long.

Put your head phones on and start watching movies. If the airline you use is like Air Canada, you'll have dozens of movies and dozens of tv shows from which to choose.

You can also sleep, but I personally try to stay awake throughout the flight so I can get to sleep at the normal time when I arrive.

coop52
January 29th, 2015, 20:29
Just be sure to get up and walk around every once in a while. And get a bottle of water for the flight once you get past security. Most airlines I've flown other than ANA or, surprisingly, Delta are bad about not bringing the drink cart around enough to keep hydrated. At least I find it annoying to get up and get a tiny cup of water from the galley all the time.

Never been stopped in Japan customs before, but I've had issues in the US twice, both at Dallas-Fort Worth. The first time was when I brought my flute back from the US, and my suitcase got held up by the TSA and came to Japan on a later flight. The second time, I got randomly selected for a screening and had to open my suitcase and let the dude check it. He almost confiscated my block of curry roux since there were pictures of vegetables and meat on the box. I normally don't bother declaring shit like that since it doesn't contain anything illegal, but I should have written it on the form, according to the TSA dude.

webstaa
January 30th, 2015, 10:13
Just be sure to get up and walk around every once in a while. And get a bottle of water for the flight once you get past security. Most airlines I've flown other than ANA or, surprisingly, Delta are bad about not bringing the drink cart around enough to keep hydrated. At least I find it annoying to get up and get a tiny cup of water from the galley all the time.

I normally don't bother declaring shit like that since it doesn't contain anything illegal, but I should have written it on the form, according to the TSA dude.

If the TSA selects your flight for jetway screening, they confiscate pretty much all liquids over 3 oz - which has left my dehydrated once or twice. A mask (Japanese style points yo) can help if you get really bad cottonmouth from the super dry airliner air too.

I love ANA cause they have the flight attendants coming around every 45 minutes or so with a pitcher of whatever. Although once I got up to stretch my legs - and look out the little door window while waiting for the toilet and the flight attendant actually spoke to me - which for some reason weirded me out. (On the other hand, we were flying around a typhoon - and you could see the eye which was pretty cool.)

Always list anything food related if you want to keep it. If they find it, the least that happens is that they confiscate it. The worst that happens is you get in hot water legally. Although going into Japan always seems easier than going into the States as far as customs is concerned. I've brought back a bunch of stuff like Japanese pepper, at as long as it was declared and not whole peppercorns, it was just a quick 'Q: Is it whole or powdered? A: It's powdered.' and get waved through. Although I've heard horror stories about people bringing over $10k through as well and being pulled aside by Customs and DHS...

Valkerion
January 30th, 2015, 11:33
Although I've heard horror stories about people bringing over $10k through as well and being pulled aside by Customs and DHS...

Gotta declare physical cash $10k or more. Its one of those "hey you probably are a drug trafficker" signs. Thought that was a well enough known thing, but it does happen a lot especially with older folks.

naginataonthebrain
January 30th, 2015, 11:51
Gotta declare physical cash $10k or more. Its one of those "hey you probably are a drug trafficker" signs. Thought that was a well enough known thing, but it does happen a lot especially with older folks.

Case in point: My friend's grandfather. It also didn't help that he was coming in from Iran. The legal fiasco that ensued was atrocious. 0/10 would not recommend.