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hithere4
April 9th, 2015, 12:39
Yes, "success" can be measured in a lot of different ways, but if JET were creating a recruiting pamphlet similar to how Universities do, who would you list as "successful" or "prominent" JET alumni. To be honest, I can't think of many, I know of one who became a US Congressional Chief of Staff and is now a Deputy Assistant USTR, but can't think of many others...thoughts?

Is there life after JET?........

Ini
April 9th, 2015, 12:42
Becky Jones

Hes managing director of his father in laws corner shop

Virgil
April 9th, 2015, 13:16
Anyone that makes a name for themselves hides it so that they are not publically disgraced.

Seriously though, just is such a small portion of the populace it's not likely that your going to hear about famous people that participated in the program. Compare that to the amount of people that go to university.

mothy
April 9th, 2015, 13:23
Highly successful people don't take years off to dick around in Asia.

greyjoy
April 9th, 2015, 14:28
The children of highly successful people often do though

mothy
April 9th, 2015, 14:30
But they don't need a job to do so.

Libellule
April 9th, 2015, 15:00
Will Ferguson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Ferguson) comes to mind, he's a Canadian author

Apollo87
April 9th, 2015, 15:08
One of the guys from Monkey Majik is a former JET from Sendai IIRC.

Ananasboat
April 9th, 2015, 18:01
My vote goes to the guy who got his school's first graders to sing the Day Man song.

Zolrak 22
April 9th, 2015, 18:09
My vote goes to the guy who got his school's first graders to sing the Day Man song.
Please tell me there's a video of that on the Web. [emoji75]

Ananasboat
April 9th, 2015, 18:21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCB4XRRn0WU

Would I disappoint? No.

word
April 9th, 2015, 21:04
LOL MG and I could not believe that video when we saw it. The Peter Griffin drawing in the background makes it even better.

Ananasboat
April 9th, 2015, 21:29
WHY PETER GRIFFIN?! WHY? I don't know!

But it's the cutest damned thing and I wish I could play guitar and make my kids sing and dance to that song. Seriously. Life goal material right there.

texxaport
April 10th, 2015, 06:31
Yuri Lowenthal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Lowenthal)?

BarnSwallow
April 10th, 2015, 13:09
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCB4XRRn0WU

Would I disappoint? No.

Jesus Christ that is amazing. They even got the "aaaaAAAAAaaaa" part down. The best part.
I'm not sure I'll ever achieve something that great.....

Ini
April 10th, 2015, 14:30
They look so enthusiastic and are clearly enjoying themselves.....

ALTInsiderFY
April 10th, 2015, 17:31
They look so enthusiastic and are clearly enjoying themselves.....
It looks like they were SUPER psyched for the big video performance....

johnny
April 13th, 2015, 02:14
I think quite of few of the diplomats working in the Canadian embassy in Tokyo are former jets.

kalliea
April 14th, 2015, 14:37
What counts as successful?

naginataonthebrain
April 15th, 2015, 01:07
Saw this article (http://thediplomat.com/2015/04/the-jet-program-and-the-us-japan-relationship/) posted on the Diplomat and thought it was interesting. The lady who wrote it also published research (http://uscpublicdiplomacy.org/sites/uscpublicdiplomacy.org/files/legacy/publications/perspectives/CPD_Perspectives_Paper_3_2012.pdf) that included on where Americans JET alums are working (you can find it on page 30).

BifCarbet
April 15th, 2015, 03:12
Saw this article (http://thediplomat.com/2015/04/the-jet-program-and-the-us-japan-relationship/) posted on the Diplomat and thought it was interesting. The lady who wrote it also published research (http://uscpublicdiplomacy.org/sites/uscpublicdiplomacy.org/files/legacy/publications/perspectives/CPD_Perspectives_Paper_3_2012.pdf) that included on where Americans JET alums are working (you can find it on page 30).

I liked the article. Thanks.

Zolrak 22
April 15th, 2015, 04:32
What counts as successful?
Rich?
Famous?
Achieved all of their goals?
Built an empire?
People want to be him/her?

kalliea
April 15th, 2015, 09:59
Ah. Than no, I can't think of any.

greyjoy
April 15th, 2015, 12:59
Azrael really should have parlayed his adoring crowd into an NHK job or something at the very least.

sharpinthefang
April 15th, 2015, 16:53
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCB4XRRn0WU Would I disappoint? No. that was beautiful

Wakatta
May 2nd, 2015, 02:39
LOL MG and I could not believe that video when we saw it. The Peter Griffin drawing in the background makes it even better.
This poster right here. That's my answer to the OP.

Also, I seem to have been pulled onto this forum by some kind of spacetime distortion. These posts I'm reading are from 2015. What's the future like? Here in 2008, I'm just wishing this school would get air conditioning. Someone just walked past my desk talking about the brand new plasma TVs. But no air conditioning? Really?

word
May 7th, 2015, 15:59
omg hi Wakatta! The future is great! Still no air conditioning, but they've introduced SUPER Cool Biz now. Oh, speaking of, make sure you aren't anywhere near Fukushima in March of 2011. I'd give you details but I can't imagine a gaijin predicting nuclear doom in the future is going to be very well-received by many Js, so just take my word for it.

And Wakatta is absolutely right. I am the most successful JET alum I can think of.

Zolrak 22
May 12th, 2015, 01:40
And Wakatta is absolutely right. I am the most successful JET alum I can think of.

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word
May 12th, 2015, 08:46
[emoji19]

You think I'm joking, but I'm honestly not, really. When I think of all the JET alums I know, I can't think of anyone who actually seems happier than I am. Maybe one or two? There's a few who are comparable, I'm sure. Happiness is a big part of my definition of "success," and if I really sit down and try to think of people who are "more successful" in those terms....

acpc2203
May 12th, 2015, 08:51
You think I'm joking, but I'm honestly not, really. When I think of all the JET alums I know, I can't think of anyone who actually seems happier than I am. Maybe one or two? There's a few who are comparable, I'm sure. Happiness is a big part of my definition of "success," and if I really sit down and try to think of people who are "more successful" in those terms....
I always thought you were still in JET, you did 5 years and then found another job teaching English?

word
May 12th, 2015, 08:57
Yeh I'm a direct-hire now. It didn't come with a raise but it's the sort of change in position that I can spin well on a résumé.

Zolrak 22
May 12th, 2015, 09:57
http://earnthis.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/gaston.jpg



Is...

Is that you? [emoji54]

word
May 12th, 2015, 10:01
Haha, but really... was Gaston ever actually happy? I always thought he was kinda sad.

Gizmotech
May 12th, 2015, 12:03
I gotta admit, I'm with word on this. Successful is a very relative term. My friend is likely successful as he's the third highest subscribed gaijin in japan channel on youtube? And he's not an alumn yet, however if you knew him in person he's just a right wreck. Then I look at my friends who live here long term, I would say they are successful within their own requirements for it. Nice life, they seem happy, very few problems.

BifCarbet
May 12th, 2015, 12:23
My friend is likely successful as he's the third highest subscribed gaijin in japan channel on youtube?

How is that known?

Gizmotech
May 12th, 2015, 12:29
Based on comparisons done manually, the japan youtube meet ups, and the metrics he's heard unofficially from youtube japan representatives?

BifCarbet
May 12th, 2015, 13:22
Well, alright! Sold.

texxaport
May 13th, 2015, 13:52
omg hi Wakatta! The future is great! Still no air conditioning, but they've introduced SUPER Cool Biz now. Oh, speaking of, make sure you aren't anywhere near Fukushima in March of 2011. I'd give you details but I can't imagine a gaijin predicting nuclear doom in the future is going to be very well-received by many Js, so just take my word for it.

And Wakatta is absolutely right. I am the most successful JET alum I can think of.

Does this mean I should blindly follow word's advice and aspire to one day get his autograph?

word
May 13th, 2015, 15:03
Does this mean I should blindly follow word's advice and aspire to one day get his autograph?

1. No.

2. Yes.

Ananasboat
May 13th, 2015, 15:07
So you're saying I don't want your autograph then?

BambooTelegraph
May 14th, 2015, 09:24
I think quite of few of the diplomats working in the Canadian embassy in Tokyo are former jets.

I'm pretty certain that's true.

johnny
May 17th, 2015, 22:24
Here is a guy to whom I've been listening recently and he's a successful former JET.

Michael Auslin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Auslin)

UPGRAYEDD
May 18th, 2015, 11:16
I have successes.

greyjoy
May 22nd, 2015, 18:19
You think I'm joking, but I'm honestly not, really. When I think of all the JET alums I know, I can't think of anyone who actually seems happier than I am. Maybe one or two? There's a few who are comparable, I'm sure. Happiness is a big part of my definition of "success," and if I really sit down and try to think of people who are "more successful" in those terms....

Word, I agree wholeheartedly with your definition of success. I think way too many people measure success in terms that don't actually reflect on the merits of a well lived life. I too think happiness is a great measure of one's success in the world.

But I would challenge you to examine your preconceptions about your own happiness and that of others. Many times, we attribute false feelings of negativity on others who we don't fully understand because we are not privy to their thoughts and feelings. As tempting as it might be, sometime we have to take a step back and admit that are perceptions of the world and even ourselves don't always amount to a hill of beans! Often times people believe they are more happy than the person sitting next to them, because the other person has a frown on his face, unaware that he's deep in thought trying to think of the perfect anniversary present for his sweetheart. Or believe that they're the hungriest person in the room, because they don't know that the woman in line behind them hasn't eaten for three days, but is used to being hungry because she's poor. It's hard sometimes, but we have to realize that we view the world through a lens that is instinctively favorable to ourselves and unfavorable to those outside of our immediate concern. Please think on this and remember that we all have to share this planet for now, so it's in everyone's best interest to have a little empathy for others even when it challenges us.

Thanks!

johnny
May 22nd, 2015, 21:49
Nice sig. Are you trying to tell us something Greyjoy?

Zolrak 22
May 22nd, 2015, 23:47
Greyjoy, I missed you.

word
May 23rd, 2015, 00:32
Ah, but you're assuming that because I see myself as being happy, I am somehow projecting negative emotions onto others. Nothing could be farther from the truth; in fact, I'm blessed to be surrounded by what I perceive to be remarkably happy friends and acquaintances. I'm not sure why, to you, a person who perceives themselves to be extraordinarily happy must also be perceiving others to be unhappy. That seems to be a rather depressing way of looking at the world. However, given your consistently negative outlook upon... well, everything, I can't say I'm particularly surprised.

BifCarbet
May 23rd, 2015, 01:43
Often times people believe they are more happy than the person sitting next to them, because the other person has a frown on his face, unaware that he's deep in thought trying to think of the perfect anniversary present for his sweetheart. Or believe that...

I wish everyone thought about this all the time. Good stuff, Theon.

word
May 23rd, 2015, 09:08
Seems like a weird thing to wish for. "I wish that everyone would just assume that the people around them are happy all the time, even if their physical characteristics/actions suggest otherwise." I dunno; maybe there's something to it? Maybe Sansa and Theon were actually happy at the end of that last episode? Maybe we all had it all wrong, and we're just "attribute false feelings of negativity" upon them.

johnny
May 23rd, 2015, 13:15
To be fair, Greyjoy just implied that you might be making incorrect inferences about people's happiness, not that you are. I think misreading people's feelings happens a lot. I do it all of the time and I think other people do it to me.

Outwardly happy people can often be unhappy and depressed while outwardly sad looking people can be quite happy with their lives, so I think it's easy enough to do.

I'm sure you know your friends though. I think that once you know people for a few years, you can get a better read of them.

BifCarbet
May 23rd, 2015, 14:58
Totally, Johnson. I said that I wished people thought about what Greyjoy said, not that others were happy or unhappy. Don't know where you got that, word.

I wish they thought that they might be wrong about what the others are thinking, and that other people are deeper than what you see.

word
May 23rd, 2015, 21:47
To be fair, Greyjoy just implied that you might be making incorrect inferences about people's happiness, not that you are. I think misreading people's feelings happens a lot. I do it all of the time and I think other people do it to me. Perhaps, but his intention was quite obvious.


Outwardly happy people can often be unhappy and depressed while outwardly sad looking people can be quite happy with their lives, so I think it's easy enough to do. See, but this is presenting a false dichotomy--simply because I am extraordinarily happy does not mean that I believe my friends are unhappy. It's a disingenuous sort of argument, I think. It's as if, for example, I'd said, "I drink more booze than anyone I know," and someone said, "Well, you might be assuming that your friends never drink." That's ridiculous, though; "lots of booze" and "no booze" aren't the only two choices, and--if anything--adding the "I know" qualifier is acknowledging the fact that I don't know everything about everyone. Perhaps it's just a semantic thing?


I'm sure you know your friends though. I think that once you know people for a few years, you can get a better read of them.I agree. I'm the sort of person who doesn't make friends easily, but the friendships that I do form are lifelong and deep, and I know my friends quite well (and vice versa).


Totally, Johnson. I said that I wished people thought about what Greyjoy said, not that others were happy or unhappy. Don't know where you got that, word.Well, I got it because that's what he said. I said I was one of the happiest people I knew. He took that as me potentially implying that I incorrectly believe my friends are unhappy (ah, the phrase he used was "attribute false feelings of negativity on others"), when, in fact, nothing could be further from the truth.


I wish they thought that they might be wrong about what the others are thinking, and that other people are deeper than what you see.Part of my problem is that I'm actually remarkably good at knowing what people are thinking, and I don't always enjoy this fact much. Being an empathetic person is a decidedly double-edged sword.

Jiggit
May 23rd, 2015, 22:22
I'm not even drunk and I have no idea what you're even arguing about.

word
May 23rd, 2015, 22:58
Eh, I don't really know, either. I'm a lot happier now, though :D

johnny
May 23rd, 2015, 23:49
I too am confused and have lost interest. Word does seem reasonably happy when he's not talking about fat people and anti-vaxxers though.

BifCarbet
May 24th, 2015, 00:46
Word, I was not talking about you in any way. You put words in my mouth (giggidy).

johnny
May 24th, 2015, 01:24
Word, I was not talking about you in any way. You put words in my mouth (giggidy).

Watch out boy or he'll try to put something else in your mouth.

word
May 24th, 2015, 10:18
Word, I was not talking about you in any way. You put words in my mouth (giggidy).

Oh, I was confused, because you addressed me by name in your post.

BifCarbet
May 25th, 2015, 09:05
Oh, I was confused, because you addressed me by name in your post.


I wish everyone thought about this all the time. Good stuff, Theon.

that one? That's the one I understood you to be criticizing.

word
May 25th, 2015, 11:15
No, this one:


I said that I wished people thought about what Greyjoy said, not that others were happy or unhappy. Don't know where you got that, word.


To which I responded:


Well, I got it because that's what he said. I said I was one of the happiest people I knew. He took that as me potentially implying that I incorrectly believe my friends are unhappy (ah, the phrase he used was "attribute false feelings of negativity on others"), when, in fact, nothing could be further from the truth.

And I stand by my criticism. I don't really understand why you guys are having such a hard time with this. The language I'm using isn't particularly difficult. Believing that one is an extraordinarily happy person does not inherently mean that one must believe that others around him are unhappy (or "attributing false feelings of negativity" to anyone).

I would argue further that greyjoy's assessment is a rather slippery slope. We shouldn't assume to fully understand the emotional state of those around us, but neither should we assume that we're completely incapable of empathizing with them or assessing their emotional state with some degree of accuracy, either, as he implies in his post. As johnny mentioned, I know my friends. I can only speak of the people I know; I can't speak of random ALTs I've never met or known, and wouldn't try. The OP asked about the most successful JET alum we could think of. I can't really "think of" people I don't know, because my definition of success requires that I know them. There could be some fabulously wealthy ex-JET out there with a fantastic job, a doting spouse, a loving family, and everything else, yet without knowing him/her well, I wouldn't want to make any sort of assumptions about her/his success. S/he might be horrifically depressed or otherwise unsatisfied somehow; life is much too complicated to define success by such shallow measures as material possessions or societal status.

Realistically, though, this whole discussion is pretty pointless. greyjoy was (yet again) just looking to get another dig at me; he's not actually arguing against anything I said here. Contrary to what you may have been told, there is nothing wrong with believing oneself to be happy--even extraordinarily happy.

johnny
May 25th, 2015, 11:27
Yeah, I actually agree with you Word, I was just trying to clarify what I thought Greyjoy's argument was. Essentially he was saying you might be misjudging the mood of your friends. I can't speak to his motives, but he likes taking jabs at me too. So I get it.

That's why I mentioned that you know your friends. That means two things. Firstly, as we've discussed, you know them better. You have a better read on their body and facial language.

More importantly, you tell me that you have a long and deep relationship with them. That means you probably talk with one another. Your relationship with your friends likely fosters and encourages honesty. That means you're far, far less likely to misjudge their mood as you would some random schmo you might see sitting in a Starbucks.

BifCarbet
May 25th, 2015, 12:00
Gotcha, Word. The post you just quoted was actually after you called me out, but anyway, what I was saying is that people need to be aware that they don't know everything about other people, and I wasn't addressing you when I said that.