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laurenlouise
December 4th, 2015, 15:23
Hi everyone, looking for some advice

I'm not planning on recontracting next year, but still want to stay in Japan for the foreseeable future. The plan was to take the free flight back home to spend time with my family for a month or two before coming back to Japan to work. I was always planning on applying for the pension refund - but, is it possible to claim in such a short amount of time in Australia? is it worth cutting all of my ties with Japan if i'm just going to come back and work again anyway? Can I claim the amount later if I decide to go back in a few years? Alternatively, how will taking the pension refund effect my financial future if I decide to stay in Japan long term?

Would appreciate hearing about anyones experience with this as I can't seem to find any concrete answers online

word
December 4th, 2015, 16:31
It will take months; I don't think I've ever heard of anyone getting it in less than four. No point, really.

laurenlouise
December 4th, 2015, 16:53
Thanks for your reply! I wouldn't need the money right away, and could have a family member sort it out and send it to me later. I guess i'm just wondering if the amount is worth all the effort and inconvenience to get it.

word
December 4th, 2015, 17:02
If you come back to Japan before the process is finished, they probably won't send you the money. In fact, attempting to get them to do so sounds like some kind of fraud. If your plan is Japan long-term/life, better just leave it.

Ini
December 4th, 2015, 18:34
Hi everyone
Hi, Dr nick!

I'm not planning on recontracting next year, but still want to stay in Japan for the foreseeable future. The plan was to take the free flight back home to spend time with my family for a month or two before coming back to Japan to work.
I was always planning on applying for the pension refund - but, is it possible to claim in such a short amount of time in Australia?
You can start the process but you wont receive the money for a while. It will have to be paid into an overseas bank account. You'd need to hand in your residence card and cancel your visa before you apply.


Is it worth cutting all of my ties with Japan if i'm just going to come back and work again anyway?
It'll make a lot more work for yourself as you'll have to find a company thats willing to sponsor a new visa for you, get a certificate of eligibility, arse around at the japanese embassy in your home country etc etc... if you dont apply for a pension refund you can just keep your current visa.


Can I claim the amount later if I decide to go back in a few years?
You can claim back the last 3 years you paid into the system

Alternatively, how will taking the pension refund effect my financial future if I decide to stay in Japan long term?
well your pension will be short for a start. Also cancelling the visa and claiming the pension will reset the number of years you have lived in Japan to 0 so if you want to apply for PR you'll be starting from scratch.

Would appreciate hearing about anyones experience with this as I can't seem to find any concrete answers online
I know a few people who have done it. The ones who have stayed here a long time seem to regret doing it as it was a lot of paperwork for a relatively small amount of money which they ended up paying back to the pension service anyway. Others who came back for a shorter time found it to be a good way of beating the whole "you can only claim the last 3 years" rule.

It will take months
this is true

I guess i'm just wondering if the amount is worth all the effort and inconvenience to get it.
probably not

Virgil
December 7th, 2015, 09:43
I don't think you can even take the flight unless you turn in your residence card and cancel your visa. Is that right?

laurenlouise
December 7th, 2015, 09:53
won't my visa be cancelled anyway after my contract with my BOE expires? thank you for all your input helping to figure out the logistics everyone. I've given up on the original pension refund plan but would still like to go home to see my family before launching into another contract if possible

Ini
December 7th, 2015, 10:02
your visa is yours, as long as you get another job in the same field (instructor) it'll be fine. If you get a job doing something else you'll need to change it to a different type of visa (specialist in humanities etc). Changing status or extending an existing visa is a hell of a lot easier than getting a new one from scratch. Thats why people come out here with crappy eikaiwa companies only to jump ship to a better job within a few months. Most places cant be bothered to go through the hassle of sponsoring visas and the grind of certificates of eligibility - thats why lots of job listings will state "must have a valid work visa" on them.

laurenlouise
December 7th, 2015, 10:03
I guess the question now is what is the process for staying in Japan post JET? I will be relocating to the Kansai region. Would it be easier to finish up as normal and then just come back and start fresh, or not leave the country until i've found a new visa/job/living arrangements? I do have a long term Japanese partner and am considering taking the spousal visa route

laurenlouise
December 7th, 2015, 10:06
Sorry I didn't see your reply before I posted. Thank you, that makes things a lot clearer. I guess I should postpone my trip home until everything is settled then. Just seems a waste to throw away a free flight...