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ThroneofBlood
May 21st, 2016, 08:09
I know this topic has come up in the past, but I'm curious about what your absolute best and absolute worst experience (with students, JTEs, govt, anything) as a JET was?

mothy
May 21st, 2016, 11:12
Kind of a vague question. Do you mean specific to being a JET, or just something good and something bad that happened while on JET?

Lianwen
May 21st, 2016, 16:14
Was told to GTFO school grounds, on a school day, because insurance didn't cover the school for me being there cause I had a BOE day I didn't know I was scheduled for. Was escorted to the gate of the school in the middle of winter (I actually don't remember why this bothered me now, but I'm pretty sure it was the weather) and waiting half an hour for someone from the BOE to pick my butt up.


I've blocked out a lot of my time with babysitter-san, but I remember collapsing in the hospital and screaming that I didn't want that sh!t for brains near me and someone actually listening to me for once. Remember after being diagnosed with pneumonia, my supervisor still saying I had to work and the doctor's face as he said no I wasn't.

Ooooh, or how my principal at one of my schools told me I wasn't invited to the welcome staff enkai because I was the ALT and was straight up not invited. Or how I had to deal with my pred being 'super pred' and even though he's been gone for 4 years now, his picture is still everywhere in my old visit schools.

I didnt have a lot of good memories on JET. I enjoyed certain aspects, but I wouldn't do it again.

ThroneofBlood
May 22nd, 2016, 04:35
Kind of a vague question. Do you mean specific to being a JET, or just something good and something bad that happened while on JET?

Yeah it was, my bad. I meant specific to being a JET, though while being a JET would be fine too if it was specific to living in Japan.

ThroneofBlood
May 22nd, 2016, 04:37
Was told to GTFO school grounds, on a school day, because insurance didn't cover the school for me being there cause I had a BOE day I didn't know I was scheduled for. Was escorted to the gate of the school in the middle of winter (I actually don't remember why this bothered me now, but I'm pretty sure it was the weather) and waiting half an hour for someone from the BOE to pick my butt up.


I've blocked out a lot of my time with babysitter-san, but I remember collapsing in the hospital and screaming that I didn't want that sh!t for brains near me and someone actually listening to me for once. Remember after being diagnosed with pneumonia, my supervisor still saying I had to work and the doctor's face as he said no I wasn't.

Ooooh, or how my principal at one of my schools told me I wasn't invited to the welcome staff enkai because I was the ALT and was straight up not invited. Or how I had to deal with my pred being 'super pred' and even though he's been gone for 4 years now, his picture is still everywhere in my old visit schools.

I didnt have a lot of good memories on JET. I enjoyed certain aspects, but I wouldn't do it again.

All that does suck, especially the bit about pneumonia. At least your doctor stepped in. I can see why you wouldn't want to do JET again.

mothy
May 22nd, 2016, 08:41
Yeah it was, my bad. I meant specific to being a JET, though while being a JET would be fine too if it was specific to living in Japan.

I didn't really have many highs or lows directly related to being a JET. It really was kind of boring. I guess worst thing was Saitama BoE drastically reducing the number of JET ALTs after my 3rd year and not getting recontracted because my school was one of the many schools that had their JET position axed. But in retrospect that was a good thing because every school I've taught at since then has been a far better experience in every way, so getting out of that soul crushing school was good for me.
Best... I don't know. They were very helpful in getting everything set up, so that's cool, I guess.

ThroneofBlood
May 22nd, 2016, 10:15
I didn't really have many highs or lows directly related to being a JET. It really was kind of boring. I guess worst thing was Saitama BoE drastically reducing the number of JET ALTs after my 3rd year and not getting recontracted because my school was one of the many schools that had their JET position axed. But in retrospect that was a good thing because every school I've taught at since then has been a far better experience in every way, so getting out of that soul crushing school was good for me.
Best... I don't know. They were very helpful in getting everything set up, so that's cool, I guess.

Oh, this was probably back when they were reducing positions on the programme (and before they reduced the salary!). Boring? Despite being so close to Tokyo? I guess Saitama really does deserve its reputation.

Fantasylife
May 22nd, 2016, 11:38
Was told to GTFO school grounds, on a school day, because insurance didn't cover the school for me being there cause I had a BOE day I didn't know I was scheduled for. Was escorted to the gate of the school in the middle of winter (I actually don't remember why this bothered me now, but I'm pretty sure it was the weather) and waiting half an hour for someone from the BOE to pick my butt up.


I've blocked out a lot of my time with babysitter-san, but I remember collapsing in the hospital and screaming that I didn't want that sh!t for brains near me and someone actually listening to me for once. Remember after being diagnosed with pneumonia, my supervisor still saying I had to work and the doctor's face as he said no I wasn't.

Ooooh, or how my principal at one of my schools told me I wasn't invited to the welcome staff enkai because I was the ALT and was straight up not invited. Or how I had to deal with my pred being 'super pred' and even though he's been gone for 4 years now, his picture is still everywhere in my old visit schools.

I didnt have a lot of good memories on JET. I enjoyed certain aspects, but I wouldn't do it again.

damn, that's terrible. How long did you stay on JET?

mothy
May 22nd, 2016, 12:41
Oh, this was probably back when they were reducing positions on the programme (and before they reduced the salary!). Boring? Despite being so close to Tokyo? I guess Saitama really does deserve its reputation.

Boring because it's so close to Tokyo. Everyone goes into Tokyo for fun, so unless you're the kind of person who wants to take the train into Tokyo everyday, not much to do.
But since JET I've gotten into the craft beer scene here and that's been cool, and Saitama is actually pretty good for beer drinkers, but didn't find that until after JET. During JET I mainly was drinking vodka straight while playing video games.

Ebi
May 22nd, 2016, 12:42
Honestly, I can't think of many low moments that were related to JET or the job itself. But I did have one instance early on where I let myself get very bitter about my circumstances.

I was sitting at my desk wearing my nice business clothes, sweating to death in the summer humidity, in a staffroom that was mostly empty because it was the Obon holidays so neither of my JTEs were around. I was feeling miserable and lonely, but I was too timid to do anything about it. At the time my Japanese was so poor that I could only talk like a caveman and understand snippets of conversations. At one point a few coworkers said "American" as they chatted and then laughed. In my self-made paranoia I felt like they were making fun of me. I guess I expected a warmer welcome and at least some guidance as to what I should be doing with my spare time. I was so afraid of making a bad first impression that I didn't even use the internet on my computer.

Thankfully someone finally did come to my rescue. A very kind woman, the home ec teacher, came by and asked if I wanted to go attend a special summer class that some students were having. I didn't really understand, but anything was better than stewing in resentment, so I went. The room was so much cooler, which immediately lifted my mood. I did my best to follow the lesson (it was about stranger danger which I gathered should be solved by running away and yelling). The home ec teacher and a science teacher engaged me in simple conversation and I was introduced to some students, too. Home ec teacher told me I didn't have to sit at my desk and should wander around and chat with staff and students whenever. She basically laughed at me for being so serious and told me to relax because it's summer and no one cares what you do.

I'm so glad someone shook the stupid out of me. It seems obvious now that I should have reached out to other people instead of waiting for them to approach the weird foreigner who was silently seething at her desk. And ever since then I've become very proactive about getting the information and help I needed instead of waiting for someone to tell me. I've mostly had good or uneventful days since then.

n107
May 22nd, 2016, 17:27
Actually, all of my truly "bad" days in Japan came after JET. Of course I had better days than others while a JET but nothing too terrible and as I think about it in hindsight, no big incidents come to mind.

If I had to choose something, I'd say the worst thing that happened was shortly after I arrived at my placement. It was probably my second day at work in August. My JTE/supervisor said she would take me to the preschool for introductions and I'd stay there for an hour in the morning. She dropped me off and I had tea and met the teachers. Then they showed me into the large hall, led in a group of 0-4 year old children and told me to start my 50 minute lesson. Did not see that coming.

There are too many great memories about my time as a JET and I think the best part was *knowing* I was living in some of the best years of my life. It let me appreciate them so much more while experiencing them rather than looking back years later and realizing they were the best.

However, if I chose one good thing it would be becoming friends with one of the other ALTs who arrived in my group. I talked to him on the flight from Tokyo to our prefecture and he didn't seem like the type I'd hang out with. Plus our placements were quite a distance from each other so I figured we wouldn't see each other much. But at that time, and during the orientation meetings, he always told everyone to drop him a line if we came to the city and he'd show us around.

Fast forward about 8 months. I had recently broken up with me girlfriend and, combined with culture shock, was having a rough time. I took a train to the city one weekend and was wandering around aimlessly and bored. Then I remembered that ALT and sent him a quick message asking if he was free to meet up. As it turned out, he was free and within 30 minutes we'd found each other. We grabbed lunch at a cafe he recommended and we got to talking. It so happened that we had a lot more in common than I thought. He became the best friend I've made in Japan and I owe a lot of the insane adventures I've had in this country to him and his off the wall ideas.

There. That's all I got.

Ini
May 22nd, 2016, 17:40
Dear Penthouse,

I talked to him on the flight from Tokyo to our prefecture and he didn't seem like the type I'd hang out with. Plus our placements were quite a distance from each other so I figured we wouldn't see each other much. But at that time, and during the orientation meetings, he always told everyone to drop him a line if we came to the city and he'd show us around.

Fast forward about 8 months. I had recently broken up with me girlfriend and, combined with culture shock, was having a rough time. I took a train to the city one weekend and was wandering around aimlessly and bored. Then I remembered that ALT and sent him a quick message asking if he was free to meet up. As it turned out, he was free and within 30 minutes we'd found each other. We grabbed lunch at a cafe he recommended and we got to talking. It so happened that we had a lot more in common than I thought. He became the best friend I've made in Japan and I owe a lot of the insane adventures I've had in this country to him and his off the wall ideas.


how romantic

n107
May 22nd, 2016, 21:35
how romantic

Love is beautiful.

Lianwen
May 23rd, 2016, 00:04
damn, that's terrible. How long did you stay on JET?

3 years. Tried to leave after my first year, but that was such a mess. I've mentally blocked out a lot of my JET experiences because a lot of it was bad. There were some highlights and things I truly enjoyed (onsens, day trips, etc with some close fellow JETs), but my BOE was very poor, and it didn't help that what money they did have, they squandered. For example, every week, out of the 12 schools in our town (6 each, for me and another ALT), they decided that rather than send us to the schools we could easily reach by walking/biking/PT, they were going to pay for a taxi. Between myself and the other ALT, we spent 2万円 on taxis every week. On my Tuesday's, I easily dropped 5000円 on the taxi ride. The kicker - that school could be reached by bus for 100yen.

Dont even get me started on our smartboards - each school had a brand new shiny smartboards installed, with the sh!ttiest computers hooked up to them. How we had the money for that but not for other things amazes me.

One nice thing I enjoyed was the PTA. Every so often I got paraded out for them and I usually got to wear a nice kimono etc when they did that. Then the PTA would take their picture with me and I'd get fawned over and given snacks. I didn't mind that. And one of my schools was a super science ES, and they loved me and I often got special privileges and invites from that school and I got to do a lot of bits and bobs with the Australian sister school of the ES, which included helping translate science things.

The other schools weren't so bad, but there were two I hated especially in my last year all the time - my two JHS sucked. One was forever stuck in the past and the JTE couldn't speak English and we did the same activity for every class and for every grade. It was horrible. The other put me in a classroom with a North Korea loving special needs student and I felt uncomfortable every time they did so and the vice principal (who was one of the JTEs) went out of way to say cruel things in such a passive-aggressive English way I would be close to tears some days.

acpc2203
May 23rd, 2016, 09:51
Anyone else have feral kids at their elementaries? Mine has a couple that are allowed to do whatever they want and just wander around yelling.

mothy
May 23rd, 2016, 10:04
Don't teach elementary school, but have kids like that in jhs.

Jiggit
May 23rd, 2016, 10:29
I don't, and I can't imagine. Having no recourse to remove disruptive students is bad enough when they won't shut up, I don't know how teachers at worse schools than mine can even conduct classes.

I suppose that's what bullying is for.

acpc2203
May 23rd, 2016, 10:41
Well they don't really have classes.

OatsCurrySummer
May 23rd, 2016, 10:42
Anyone else have feral kids at their elementaries? Mine has a couple that are allowed to do whatever they want and just wander around yelling.
I saw one of my HRTs kick an unruly kid (not hard enough to injure him though). The teachers are currently plotting to have him shipped away to a different school off the island. I am genuinely frightened to know what he's done to necessitate these measures.

Frap
May 23rd, 2016, 10:47
Some kids need the occasional kick if you ask me.

When I first started my PGCE, my first school had a boy in Year 1 (so 4/5 years old) and he was insane. He had a full-time one-to-one teaching assistant and he used to attack her. One time, he bit her arm so hard it almost broke the skin. I asked what will happen (after he bit her) and they said a week suspension. I was like "um, why not expulsion?" Anyway, it turns out, (idk if this is national or just this particularly school), but a child can bite someone up to 15 times before they're excluded. Like, where did they get 15 from? Why is that the amount?

OatsCurrySummer
May 23rd, 2016, 10:49
but a child can bite someone up to 15 times before they're excluded.
And imagine if this fucker knew that and made sure to bite her only fourteen times before he graduated?

Jiggit
May 23rd, 2016, 10:57
Like, where did they get 15 from? Why is that the amount?

That is a lot of biting. Like I would understand if there were a limit of 3, or 5, but 15?

Lianwen
May 23rd, 2016, 11:36
Human mouths are so dirty.

Frap
May 23rd, 2016, 11:45
And imagine if this fucker knew that and made sure to bite her only fourteen times before he graduated?

Ikr. She got no support from the SLT, either.


That is a lot of biting. Like I would understand if there were a limit of 3, or 5, but 15?

Yeah it's so dumb. We were just talking about it in the staff room and my face said it all. She looked really shaken, too. Had been crying, etc. I felt bad for her.


Human mouths are so dirty.

Right. He also threw his muddy boot at the Headteacher once. (This secretly made me laugh 'cause she was a bit of an enabler to be honest)

uthinkimlost?
May 23rd, 2016, 11:49
Human mouths are so dirty.

That explains your dating life, Kal.

acpc2203
May 24th, 2016, 10:36
I found the stark contrast between how strict and intense Japanese middle school is to how little the teachers are allowed to do in terms of discipline to be rather odd.

ThroneofBlood
May 24th, 2016, 11:58
Boring because it's so close to Tokyo. Everyone goes into Tokyo for fun, so unless you're the kind of person who wants to take the train into Tokyo everyday, not much to do.
But since JET I've gotten into the craft beer scene here and that's been cool, and Saitama is actually pretty good for beer drinkers, but didn't find that until after JET. During JET I mainly was drinking vodka straight while playing video games.

Oh, gotcha. Craft beers?! That's pretty awesome. Guess I'll try to look deeper beneath the surface to see what's available around me when I get there. If I could find something like that, it may help with the boredom.


Honestly, I can't think of many low moments that were related to JET or the job itself. But I did have one instance early on where I let myself get very bitter about my circumstances.

I was sitting at my desk wearing my nice business clothes, sweating to death in the summer humidity, in a staffroom that was mostly empty because it was the Obon holidays so neither of my JTEs were around. I was feeling miserable and lonely, but I was too timid to do anything about it. At the time my Japanese was so poor that I could only talk like a caveman and understand snippets of conversations. At one point a few coworkers said "American" as they chatted and then laughed. In my self-made paranoia I felt like they were making fun of me. I guess I expected a warmer welcome and at least some guidance as to what I should be doing with my spare time. I was so afraid of making a bad first impression that I didn't even use the internet on my computer.

Thankfully someone finally did come to my rescue. A very kind woman, the home ec teacher, came by and asked if I wanted to go attend a special summer class that some students were having. I didn't really understand, but anything was better than stewing in resentment, so I went. The room was so much cooler, which immediately lifted my mood. I did my best to follow the lesson (it was about stranger danger which I gathered should be solved by running away and yelling). The home ec teacher and a science teacher engaged me in simple conversation and I was introduced to some students, too. Home ec teacher told me I didn't have to sit at my desk and should wander around and chat with staff and students whenever. She basically laughed at me for being so serious and told me to relax because it's summer and no one cares what you do.

I'm so glad someone shook the stupid out of me. It seems obvious now that I should have reached out to other people instead of waiting for them to approach the weird foreigner who was silently seething at her desk. And ever since then I've become very proactive about getting the information and help I needed instead of waiting for someone to tell me. I've mostly had good or uneventful days since then.

Good to see that you had a pretty positive experience as a JET. I'll make a note to try to be more proactive early on and try to engage people, though my Japanese is probably much worse than yours was when you first started!


Actually, all of my truly "bad" days in Japan came after JET. Of course I had better days than others while a JET but nothing too terrible and as I think about it in hindsight, no big incidents come to mind.

If I had to choose something, I'd say the worst thing that happened was shortly after I arrived at my placement. It was probably my second day at work in August. My JTE/supervisor said she would take me to the preschool for introductions and I'd stay there for an hour in the morning. She dropped me off and I had tea and met the teachers. Then they showed me into the large hall, led in a group of 0-4 year old children and told me to start my 50 minute lesson. Did not see that coming.

There are too many great memories about my time as a JET and I think the best part was *knowing* I was living in some of the best years of my life. It let me appreciate them so much more while experiencing them rather than looking back years later and realizing they were the best.

However, if I chose one good thing it would be becoming friends with one of the other ALTs who arrived in my group. I talked to him on the flight from Tokyo to our prefecture and he didn't seem like the type I'd hang out with. Plus our placements were quite a distance from each other so I figured we wouldn't see each other much. But at that time, and during the orientation meetings, he always told everyone to drop him a line if we came to the city and he'd show us around.

Fast forward about 8 months. I had recently broken up with me girlfriend and, combined with culture shock, was having a rough time. I took a train to the city one weekend and was wandering around aimlessly and bored. Then I remembered that ALT and sent him a quick message asking if he was free to meet up. As it turned out, he was free and within 30 minutes we'd found each other. We grabbed lunch at a cafe he recommended and we got to talking. It so happened that we had a lot more in common than I thought. He became the best friend I've made in Japan and I owe a lot of the insane adventures I've had in this country to him and his off the wall ideas.

There. That's all I got.

Thanks for sharing your experience. Haha a surprise lesson is my worst fear, but hopefully they can't expect much from you in a situation like that. Hope my time in Japan is as positive as yours and that I can make some friends like that while I'm there. Cheers!

Jiggit
May 24th, 2016, 12:48
That explains your dating life, Kal.

Which 5 human body parts do you least want in your mouth, in order? Excluding your own.

I'll go first.


Feet
Butthole
Vagoo
Armpits
Dick.

mothy
May 24th, 2016, 12:51
Oh, gotcha. Craft beers?! That's pretty awesome. Guess I'll try to look deeper beneath the surface to see what's available around me when I get there. If I could find something like that, it may help with the boredom.


If I remember right you're going to Sendai? There is some good places for craft beer there.

webstaa
May 24th, 2016, 14:19
I found the stark contrast between how strict and intense Japanese middle school is to how little the teachers are allowed to do in terms of discipline to be rather odd.

Well, you can thank some feckless for slamming a poor 15 year old girl's skull in a school gate for being 10 seconds late and killing her. They went for harshly (but still arbitrarily) enforcing the rules to harshly, but harshly (but still arbitrarily) protecting the rights of students - which is why there are limits on why a student can be thrown out of class etc. (I have a sneaking suspicion some teachers bully problem students into leaving class/not coming at all for exactly this reason - there's nothing they can do withing the bounds of the rules.)

OatsCurrySummer
May 24th, 2016, 15:43
Which 5 human body parts do you least want in your mouth, in order? Excluding your own.

I'll go first.


Feet
Butthole
Vagoo
Armpits
Dick.


1. Asshole
2. Taint
3. Toe Jam
4. Armpit
5. ???

Ananasboat
May 24th, 2016, 19:20
1. Toes
2. Asshole
3. Armpit
4. Nape
5. The inside of the nose

ThroneofBlood
May 25th, 2016, 05:52
If I remember right you're going to Sendai? There is some good places for craft beer there.

Yeah, going to Sendai. Awesome! Once I get specific details of where I'll be in the city, I'll shoot you a quick message to see if there's any places near me.

mothy
May 27th, 2016, 00:51
Well, it's not like Sendai is Los Angeles. Being in Sendai equals being close to you.

moonbeam
May 27th, 2016, 09:12
The thing that drives me up the wall is the lack of communication between me and my schools. The elementary schools, no matter how many times I've asked, don't tell me the day's schedule ahead of time so I never know what to expect when I show up for work. I could have four classes, or one, or I could be expected to harvest rice or the BOE could be there observing classes. Who knows? My junior high schools are a bit better but my JTEs don't know how to use me effectively so I'm often the tape player or sitting in the back while they pretend I don't exist.

The lack of guidance is also difficult to deal with. I had no teaching experience before coming here (surprise) so showing up for work at elementary school and being told I'm the main teacher is beyond disorienting. And my JTEs often brush me off like it's not their problem when I ask for help. But whatever, trail and error has worked well so far so I'm not as miserable as I was before.

As far as the best, I think that would be the independence. JET pays well so being able to live on my own, travel, and buy nice things (not life hack like a college student) is pretty great.

Ini
May 27th, 2016, 09:49
have you tried going to the Elementary school the day before and asking what the schedule is?

moonbeam
May 27th, 2016, 10:20
That would mean going to work...after work...

But no, I'm usually 30 minutes between each school so it'd take a huge chunk of my time. I'm thinking about giving them a template schedule they can just fax to whatever school I'm at the day before.

Ini
May 27th, 2016, 11:21
30min is a huge chunk of time? Asking the school to keep track of your movements and fax schedules to different schools is a lot of work to heap on a school. Why not phone up the VP the day before if you cant go in person? You just said JET gave you independence but your attitude seems to still be of one who relies on other people to do things for you.

moonbeam
May 27th, 2016, 13:02
30 mins both ways. I'm not doing that every day. But yeah, I've tried calling and their responding panic is almost funny. It usually ends up with them calling my supervisor so he can figure out what I want. All of my schools have copies of my school schedule so it's not like they'd have to try hard to figure out where I am.

Anyway, I plan out all of their English lessons, surely they can fax a schedule. I'm not relying on them to do everything for me, just this.

Jiggit
May 27th, 2016, 13:13
Oh whatever.

mrcharisma
May 27th, 2016, 21:22
sitting in the back while they pretend I don't exist.

That's how I envision my wedding night.

Mega
June 1st, 2016, 00:52
Actually, all of my truly "bad" days in Japan came after JET. Of course I had better days than others while a JET but nothing too terrible and as I think about it in hindsight, no big incidents come to mind.

If I had to choose something, I'd say the worst thing that happened was shortly after I arrived at my placement. It was probably my second day at work in August. My JTE/supervisor said she would take me to the preschool for introductions and I'd stay there for an hour in the morning. She dropped me off and I had tea and met the teachers. Then they showed me into the large hall, led in a group of 0-4 year old children and told me to start my 50 minute lesson. Did not see that coming.


What did you do in that circumstance. I am trying to rack my brain for an on-the-spot 0-4 yr old activity and im coming up blank.

Shincantsen
June 1st, 2016, 03:16
What did you do in that circumstance. I am trying to rack my brain for an on-the-spot 0-4 yr old activity and im coming up blank.

You'd have to come up with like 8-10 activities that don't involve any supplies. I can think of a few (sing head shoulders knees and toes or any other kids songs you know, count to 10, teach them to play English rock paper scissors, teach some emotion words and have them act them out...), but eventually you'd just look at the preschool teachers with desperation in your eyes and hopefully one of them would help you.

mrcharisma
June 16th, 2016, 19:14
I get the feeling Japan is glad you're out too.

acpc2203
June 16th, 2016, 19:21
indeed

mothy
June 16th, 2016, 20:30
Japan shits upon many. At least he has the brains to realize he was shat upon.

Jiggit
June 16th, 2016, 20:37
Japan shits upon many. At least he has the brains to realize he was shat upon.

Seconded.

Thunderfoot
June 17th, 2016, 04:49
Mrcharisma Its flattering to say I meant that much. Just one in a revolving line of big nosed small faced gaijin to be mendokusai to wa of the japanese workplace. ..For all you jets out there wanting to stay in Japan. I had managed to network myself into a 5 year contract position at a local university with better pay and summers off, but by that point I was so fed up with Japan I turned down the golden ball and chain and went home. I'm glad I did, but if you want to stay, just work hard, network have a little luck and you can get a job offer to turn down too.

acpc2203
June 17th, 2016, 08:32
It happens when you don't drive

Ini
June 17th, 2016, 08:43
You could afford to go snowboarding regularly but you couldn't afford train fare?

uthinkimlost?
June 17th, 2016, 08:51
everyone knows that adults have their train fares paid for them by their employer!

Thunderfoot
June 17th, 2016, 09:00
As a one off for the typical jet. It's soul crushing when at graduation, you watch your kids bawling their eyes out, thank every teacher but you.

And it's redeeming when a couple not only remember you, but go out of their way to talk to you after you've left.

Thunderfoot
June 17th, 2016, 09:45
everyone knows that adults have their train fares paid for them by their employer!

It's common for a teacher to have this in my prefecture. It was suggested by my japanese coworkers. I wasn't asking for it all to be paid for. Just enough to get by. Also, BOE do their homework before these things. Can drive/ can't drive etc...

uthinkimlost?
June 17th, 2016, 09:45
I wasn't looking for the whole thing. Just something to make it affordable. I don't know about your prefecture but it's common to have travel stipends in mine.

It isn't common here that I'm aware of. I don' know why it would be an expectation. If you've taken a job that you can't afford to get to, then you've chosen employers poorly. If they transfer you to a new school in the district you can't afford to get to, you've accepted pay you never should have agreed to.

Thunderfoot
June 17th, 2016, 09:54
It isn't common here that I'm aware of. I don' know why it would be an expectation. If you've taken a job that you can't afford to get to, then you've chosen employers poorly. If they transfer you to a new school in the district you can't afford to get to, you've accepted pay you never should have agreed to.

Wasn't my choice to go there. They changed assignments after I signed the contract. It happens sometimes in life. You give it a try. I ended up not liking it.

Thunderfoot
June 17th, 2016, 09:57
You could afford to go snowboarding regularly but you couldn't afford train fare?

I bought a board and boots for 6000 yen at Second Street. We didn't go often, they are japanese teachers after all. I was just writing something positive. And yes the train fare really was too expensive.

Ini
June 17th, 2016, 09:58
It's common for a teacher to have this in my prefecture.

you weren't a teacher. they aren't paying for the janitor to be helicoptered in every day either.

Thunderfoot
June 17th, 2016, 10:11
It happens when you don't drive

touche

Thunderfoot
June 17th, 2016, 10:22
you weren't a teacher. they aren't paying for the janitor to be helicoptered in every day either.
I can see why you chose a guy who looks like hitlers brother to be your profile pic.

acpc2203
June 17th, 2016, 10:46
I can see why you chose a guy who looks like hitlers brother to be your profile pic.
Hey Mosley was a highly respected Fascist.

mothy
June 17th, 2016, 10:56
Every school I've ever worked at has paid my transportation costs. Of course, it was in my contract. If it wasn't in your contract, then they're within their rights to not pay for it. Really is a sound business decision on their part. Why just give you extra money? Thanks to a relentless supply of gaij all wet to let Japan stick it's dick in them, you're easily replaced.


As a one off for the typical jet. It's soul crushing when at graduation, you watch your kids bawling their eyes out, thank every teacher but you.

And it's redeeming when a couple not only remember you, but go out of their way to talk to you after you've left.

What? You lost me there.

Thunderfoot
June 17th, 2016, 12:15
If it wasn't in your contract, then they're within their rights to not pay for it. Really is a sound business decision on their part. Why just give you extra money? Thanks to a relentless supply of gaij all wet to let Japan stick it's dick in them, you're easily replaced.

i completely agree. Still shitty tho. Those sly dogs.

LilMitsuko
June 20th, 2016, 15:03
Worst experience, eh? Explaining why a sentence a JTE wrote on the board didn't work (after class), and having him tell me my understanding of English is based on my "feelings and unconscious."

I am an English Language Arts teacher back home.

*mic drop*

Jiggit
June 20th, 2016, 15:05
Worst experience, eh? Explaining why a sentence a JTE wrote on the board didn't work (after class), and having him tell me my understanding of English is based on my "feelings and unconscious."

I am an English Language Arts teacher back home.

*mic drop*

To be fair I would say about 90% of ALTs will try to contradict their JTEs based on "it doesn't feel right" and not be able to explain it better. That's why you have to learn the terminology in Japanese to really argue with them. It still probably won't persuade them but at least you can stitch them up in front of the kids.

LilMitsuko
June 20th, 2016, 15:15
To be fair I would say about 90% of ALTs will try to contradict their JTEs based on "it doesn't feel right" and not be able to explain it better. That's why you have to learn the terminology in Japanese to really argue with them. It still probably won't persuade them but at least you can stitch them up in front of the kids.

I'm pretty much fluent and tried to explain my reasoning to him in Japanese with some English. Even so, he refused to believe that what I was telling him was true and chalked it up to "feelings and unconscious".

He also claims America stole the words "anything" and "something" from French and that's why we don't know how to use them properly.

mothy
June 20th, 2016, 15:38
Americans are dirty thieves, so checks out.

Gizmotech
June 20th, 2016, 16:13
To be fair I would say about 90% of ALTs will try to contradict their JTEs based on "it doesn't feel right" and not be able to explain it better. That's why you have to learn the terminology in Japanese to really argue with them. It still probably won't persuade them but at least you can stitch them up in front of the kids.


I'm pretty much fluent and tried to explain my reasoning to him in Japanese with some English. Even so, he refused to believe that what I was telling him was true and chalked it up to "feelings and unconscious".

He also claims America stole the words "anything" and "something" from French and that's why we don't know how to use them properly.


Now imagine how it is when you're a graduate of a high level linguistics program, with your Uni ESL teaching cert, and the ability to explain shit in Japanese and they say that. All the hates for those teachers.

Also WTF is that about us stealing anything and something from French? Thing is Germanic.... like damn near proto-germanic, as are any and some....

WishfulDreamer
July 17th, 2016, 05:05
Worst:

1) Teaching elementary school and having a few HRTs who treated English like an annoyance/
wanted to use "Hi, Friends" for older students who had learned that material years earlier.

2) Having AC in the staffroom and not using it because "it's not fair to the kids."

3) Godawful kyuushoku you couldn't opt out of.

4) Having to sit around doing nothing most of the time because the teachers wanted to plan lessons themselves and didn't have anything for me to do.Being bored out of my skull when there were no classes was my life. I felt really guilty about it because I knew JETs whose schools had them plan every single lesson.

Best:

1) I'd say over 95% of my students were a joy to work with. My second and last year was hard, emotionally, but it was worth it to stay for them alone.

2) Great BoE. They took good care of all the JETs in town and didn't make us go in there in August. So we got three weeks of nenkyuu none of the other
prefecture JETs had.

3) Most of my HRTs were great people (even the Hi,Friends ones). Out of all my schools, I only had one HRT I could not stand. Enkais were always fun. They would drive me home on typhoon days after a couple of hours and pick me up if it was snowing too much to bike in.

4) BoE gave me a wonderful apartment. I still miss it (If you added insulation, a dryer, and a garbage disposal, it would have been perfect). If there was ever an issue, the BoE would quickly assist.



My list of "worsts" is nothing but minor annoyances. I was lucky to have the placement I had, not to mention the schools I had.
I wouldn't do the program again, though. It was a terribly boring job when I wasn't in the classroom.

alee50
July 17th, 2016, 16:52
If this is of any interest to anyone, please read it.
Pay cuts for reemployed workers are illegal: district court http://japan-press.co.jp/s/news/index_google.php?id=9574

There are still some good jobs out there, just keep trying!

mothy
July 18th, 2016, 00:02
Thank you aleebot. I will gambaru to my dying day.

Torinn88
July 18th, 2016, 12:15
He also claims America stole the words "anything" and "something" from French and that's why we don't know how to use them properly.

Tell that f** that it doesn't matter where the words come from, and you're not teaching French, you're teaching English. If we decide to invert the sentence order to Object Verb Subject, we can do that.

Remind him that he and all dirty Japs are using Kanji wrong because they stole them from China.