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Ananasboat
February 1st, 2017, 15:05
Hi guys. Here's my sitch.

A few months ago I was followed home by a middle school student and groped. It sucked. But it basically cemented the idea that I needed to move and change schools. All of my students know where I live, and the fact that they follow me home/want to be in my home/think its okay to sexually assault me is super wearing on me. Also, there's a heavy dose of I'm fucking jealous of the people who live in the city 20 minutes away and don't ever see their students. They live in a crazy convenient place, and I'm stuck out in the middle of some rice fields with semi-hourly buses and children of the corn.

Anyway. After helping me with the groping situation, the city's BOE was on board with moving me. They told me they'd move me whenever I wanted. I was happy about that.

But as time went on, the story changed a bit. I was asked to give my preference. I gave a conservative preference, but had the "real answer" encouraged out of me. I want to move to the main city, but am willing to be just outside of it, but not as far as where I am now. They told me they could move me into the city in April. Wee.

Now today they're saying that because of the lease, the house I rent is supposed to be paid for until August. I can't move until August. Also, my schools might change to city schools, but they want me to move into the more conservative location because of my schools right now, and because my successor will need a place to stay.

Anyway. I just want to know what you think I should do. Should I pay two rents for a few months? Should I suck it up and deal with my students harassing me in my parking lot? If I move to the conservative choice place I'll still be easily found by the other half of my students, so the idea doesn't excite me greatly.

What options am I not seeing?

mothy
February 1st, 2017, 15:13
Move where you like.

acpc2203
February 1st, 2017, 15:18
Meanwhile the kids where I am throw rocks at me and yell go bakku waito piggu whenever I walk by.

OatsCurrySummer
February 1st, 2017, 15:22
Yikes, Im sorry to hear all this stress as a result of moving. I do understand how annoying it can be for everyone to know where you live. The neighbors' kids--six kindergarteners in all--love to spend their Saturday mornings ringing my doorbell, yelling for me to come outside and play, and most recently, chain-locking me into my own house from the outside. Why in the fuck my house has a chain-lock on the outside, I don't know. But I had to undo it using a pair of scissors slipped through a crack in the door. So I can certainly empathize, and it's annoying. But I think I'd just wait until August to make the transition easier. Unless of course you think you're actually in any danger, then sure, leave as soon as possible. Also, paying two rents is just a waste of money and I probably couldn't forgive myself for it for the sake of avoiding six oversized babies. The only thing I wouldn't do is move to the conservative place. You've been granted a rare opportunity to go wherever you want. Don't waste it on something you only half-want.

Congratulations on being able to move to the city though!

Frap
February 1st, 2017, 15:24
just out of interest, what did the other teachers say when you told them about gropy mcgropeface?

Ananasboat
February 1st, 2017, 15:41
just out of interest, what did the other teachers say when you told them about gropy mcgropeface?

I got a ton of rapid support from the school. Basically we had a month of meetings about the situation. There were formal apologies, etc., etc.

But the people at the BOE got wind of it from a teacher and basically called my head teacher at the school in question (at 11pm on a Thursday) and offered to move me RIGHT THEN, because he has daughters and would be split if that happened to his kid in a foreign country. My town hall also knew about it and knew that the moving discussion was in the air, and we talked about it a little. Anyway, that mood seems to have died down a little and since then it's been put off.

And Oats, that sounds awful. But yeah, that sounds like what I'm dealing with. No outside lock on my door though (you're right, that's stupid as fuck what were they thinking?) but I get lots of students following me home. Doorbell ringing, mail slot opening. Students stop in front of me and ask for money, they follow me and ask for money, and no amount of "yeah rights" send them away. They follow me around shopping as well, because I guess it's normal to hang out in the supermarkets.

I'm just SO sick of their constant presence. I didn't mind it, but when the boob bandit struck it stopped being fun and just makes me anxious.

Mothy, if I did that. Like, just find an apartment myself and whatever, what would I do about a guarantor? I promise you they're not going to do that for me if I find my own place. They refused to even help me with a car licence because of "danger" and "you're unmarried so it's not safe." What would I do about the current apartment, and the housing needs of my successor? I'm willing to go down this path, but I need to know what my options are, and my people aren't going to help me understand them.

acpc2203
February 1st, 2017, 15:49
wait your boe knows you exist? damn

mothy
February 1st, 2017, 16:14
I guess it depends what level of hardball you're willing to play. You were victimized because they put you in an unsafe environment- or that's the way you can paint it if it comes down to that. How firm have you been in insisting? If you're willing to step on toes, then I think they'd be afraid to stop you, because if you get groped again after they stopped you from leaving they start sharing responsibility.
If you want to create less waves, there are companies that act as guarantors, though don't know if there are any in your area... You could blackmail the parents of the groper to be your guarantor...

Ini
February 1st, 2017, 16:17
buy a caravan....

acpc2203
February 1st, 2017, 16:19
blackmail is surely the way to go

Isola
February 1st, 2017, 16:23
Is there any way that you can pay a fee to get out of your rental contract? I don't completely understand the details of your situation, but why can't your successor take over your new place? I don't think you should feel any responsibility for your successor anyway. If they need to find a new place, they need to find a new place. I've lived in an ALT apartment, and I've lived in a completely empty, never-been-used by an ALT place, and I definitely preferred the latter. I think that's the BOE's way of saying "we feel inconvenienced because we have to a find a place for your successor to live".
Do you know anyone else who could act as a guarantor? Or could you apply some pressure on the BOE, reminding them what has happened to you? It's inconvenient to them, so of course they want to say no, but maybe you can change their mind by being firm about it?

Ananasboat
February 3rd, 2017, 14:41
buy a caravan....

The local for sale caravan has a colorful history with our ALTs that I do not want to personally inspect.

Ananasboat
February 3rd, 2017, 14:48
Is there any way that you can pay a fee to get out of your rental contract? I don't completely understand the details of your situation, but why can't your successor take over your new place? I don't think you should feel any responsibility for your successor anyway. If they need to find a new place, they need to find a new place. I've lived in an ALT apartment, and I've lived in a completely empty, never-been-used by an ALT place, and I definitely preferred the latter. I think that's the BOE's way of saying "we feel inconvenienced because we have to a find a place for your successor to live".
Do you know anyone else who could act as a guarantor? Or could you apply some pressure on the BOE, reminding them what has happened to you? It's inconvenient to them, so of course they want to say no, but maybe you can change their mind by being firm about it?

The issue is that they're going to most likely move me into the big city and I'll get a different set of schools. Currently the main city is a bit too far for the city hall's liking. They can't just move the new ALT into a new place because there are very few options in my town. It's a really small place (think 6000) and there are, maybe, two apartment complexes here (I'm being conservative, because I've never actually seen another apartment complex). If there aren't any apartments left in this town by the time the new guy shows up then he won't have a place to live.

The other option is that I move in between where I am now and the main city. The issue with that is according to my boss the lease isn't up until August. She also gave me a ton of vague "well the walk to the bus stop is long" kind of excuses that basically told me "no, we're not going to move you there."

Soooo yeah, I'm basically being talked down and while I care a bunch I guess my option is to go rogue or wait until August. Blast.

Isola
February 3rd, 2017, 15:16
I guess where I'm confused is, are you changing your schools in April or August?
And is your town such a hot real estate spot that someone is going to snap up your place as soon as you leave? And if there isn't a room to rent in town, couldn't he move into the suburbs?
In the end, I don't think these are things that you have to worry about, they're things that the BOE has to worry about. If you stick firm to your guns and say that you need to move and that you are going to move, they'll probably give into you. Don't get Japanese'd into staying in a situation where your safety is being compromised. I honestly felt uncomfortable and worried reading your post. Getting some teachers on board with you to help navigate the teeth sucking and the muzukashii's might help you take more control of the situation. I really hope you can find a solution that works for you.

Ananasboat
February 6th, 2017, 12:10
I guess where I'm confused is, are you changing your schools in April or August?
And is your town such a hot real estate spot that someone is going to snap up your place as soon as you leave? And if there isn't a room to rent in town, couldn't he move into the suburbs?
In the end, I don't think these are things that you have to worry about, they're things that the BOE has to worry about. If you stick firm to your guns and say that you need to move and that you are going to move, they'll probably give into you. Don't get Japanese'd into staying in a situation where your safety is being compromised. I honestly felt uncomfortable and worried reading your post. Getting some teachers on board with you to help navigate the teeth sucking and the muzukashii's might help you take more control of the situation. I really hope you can find a solution that works for you.

They're not telling me when I'd change schools, and to be honest it sounds like they don't want me to. It would honestly make sense to change in April, and it's completely possible. But they're saying August is easier. My town is small and there really aren't apartment buildings here. Only single homes. I live in the only apartment building in my town. To my town hall, me living in the main city and commuting in is too expensive (its 530 yen one way), so it follows that it would be too expensive for my successor to live there as well.

Honestly I want to get a nice job after JET, be it private school or localization or something like that. Not making waves is the nice polite Japanese thing to do, but you're right. I might talk to the teachers at the school where this all went down. Maybe hem and haw at them a little bit and have them call the main BOE to hear their opinions.

Ini
February 6th, 2017, 12:55
Why don't you drive to school?

acpc2203
February 6th, 2017, 13:20
You ask entirely too much.

mrcharisma
February 6th, 2017, 23:04
Why don't you drive to school?

And act like a functioning adult rather than a spoiled and mollycoddled child? How long is it since you were on Jet?

mrcharisma
February 6th, 2017, 23:08
They're not telling me when I'd change schools, and to be honest it sounds like they don't want me to. It would honestly make sense to change in April, and it's completely possible. But they're saying August is easier. My town is small and there really aren't apartment buildings here. Only single homes. I live in the only apartment building in my town. To my town hall, me living in the main city and commuting in is too expensive (its 530 yen one way), so it follows that it would be too expensive for my successor to live there as well.

Honestly I want to get a nice job after JET, be it private school or localization or something like that. Not making waves is the nice polite Japanese thing to do, but you're right. I might talk to the teachers at the school where this all went down. Maybe hem and haw at them a little bit and have them call the main BOE to hear their opinions.

1000 yen a day travel is too expensive?!

If everyone in London outside of Zone 1/2 can manage it you should be able to.

Lianwen
February 7th, 2017, 06:22
1000 yen a day travel is too expensive?!

If everyone in London outside of Zone 1/2 can manage it you should be able to.

My BOE paid about 2500yen a day in taxis just for me to get to school - they took the no driving in the contracts very seriously in our area.

Jiggit
February 7th, 2017, 07:45
My BOE paid about 2500yen a day in taxis just for me to get to school - they took the no driving in the contracts very seriously in my area.

Ftfy

Ini
February 7th, 2017, 07:47
My BOE paid about 2500yen a day in taxis just for me to get to school


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webstaa
February 8th, 2017, 08:17
Too bad Drano is terrible for your pipes and leads to more problems in the long run...

acpc2203
February 8th, 2017, 08:22
isnt drano just thickened bleach?

Ini
February 8th, 2017, 08:22
draino works perfectly, the rumors it damages your pipes were spread by those so-called journalists at the failing NYtimes. fake news.

OatsCurrySummer
February 8th, 2017, 08:25
Too bad Drano is terrible for your pipes and leads to more problems in the long run...

Lol who cares? That's the next ALTs problem.

acpc2203
February 8th, 2017, 08:26
if you did ur job right there will be no next alt

mothy
February 8th, 2017, 08:30
if you did ur job right there will be no next alt

Then I did my job right.

Frap
February 8th, 2017, 10:25
draino works perfectly, the rumors it damages your pipes were spread by those so-called journalists at the failing NYtimes. fake news.

I love how "Failing NYtimes" rolls off the tongue so easily

hypatia
February 12th, 2017, 23:52
They're not telling me when I'd change schools, and to be honest it sounds like they don't want me to. It would honestly make sense to change in April, and it's completely possible. But they're saying August is easier. My town is small and there really aren't apartment buildings here. Only single homes. I live in the only apartment building in my town. To my town hall, me living in the main city and commuting in is too expensive (its 530 yen one way), so it follows that it would be too expensive for my successor to live there as well.

Honestly I want to get a nice job after JET, be it private school or localization or something like that. Not making waves is the nice polite Japanese thing to do, but you're right. I might talk to the teachers at the school where this all went down. Maybe hem and haw at them a little bit and have them call the main BOE to hear their opinions.

Sorry to hear about this shitty situation :/ I second the suggestion of getting someone at the school in question to go for bat for you with your BOE. In my case at least, I very rarely deal with the people at my BOE, but I have a much better relationship with the teachers and staff at my schools. Plus, they actually get treated like real people with actual concerns, so there's that. You mentioned a head teacher in another post. Maybe they would have some clout? Do you have a sympathetic/friendly kyoto-sensei? I find that the VPs at my schools are the best people to help get shit done. The principals are always tucked away in their office, but the vice principals are usually out in the staff room. They have more administrative power than the average teacher but aren't as busy.


My BOE paid about 2500yen a day in taxis just for me to get to school - they took the no driving in the contracts very seriously in our area.

A few of the BOEs in my area do the taxi thing as well. My BOE is just as serious about the no driving, but I just have to ride my damn bike everywhere. For my farthest school I take a bus (at least I get pre-paid tickets for that), but my second farthest school is a 30 minute bike into the mountains one way. Rainy season is a barrel of laughs.

Ananasboat
February 13th, 2017, 10:21
Why don't you drive to school?

Oh man, you shoulda been there for that conversation.

"Well I can get my scooter licence." "Nonsense, you're unmarried and I feel responsible for you. It's far too dangerous."

"Well I can get a drivers licence" "Nonsense, that is far too dangerous and what would your father think?"

But yeah, no driving in the contract in my town... Also I'm a filthy "grew up with tons of public transportation" privileged child.

Ananasboat
February 13th, 2017, 10:22
1000 yen a day travel is too expensive?!

If everyone in London outside of Zone 1/2 can manage it you should be able to.

I'm not saying it's too expensive. They are. They're the ones reimbursing me, as it is.

Edit:

Well I suppose I can give y'all an update. Though honestly this roller coaster is so annoying, and I'm sure by Wednesday their story will change again.

They told me I can't move in the in-between town because it has high schoolers and truck drivers, therefore too dangerous. I'm happy to agree with them because that town is generally just a shit hole and I'd rather not live there.

They were looking up apartments for me in the main city and were talking about getting me a commuter's ticket, so it sounds like they've decided that I can move into the city, commute to the schools here, and it's not too expensive for them.

I don't know. These people are nuts. I'm just going to be looking up apartments on my off time.

Ini
February 13th, 2017, 12:47
Oh man, you shoulda been there for that conversation.

"Well I can get my scooter licence." "Nonsense, you're unmarried and I feel responsible for you. It's far too dangerous."

"Well I can get a drivers licence" "Nonsense, that is far too dangerous and what would your father think?"

But yeah, no driving in the contract in my town... Also I'm a filthy "grew up with tons of public transportation" privileged child.

using public transport makes you privileged? I guess the tramps who ride around the subway all day to keep out the cold must have been born with a silver spoon up their arses

Ananasboat
February 13th, 2017, 13:07
I'm waiting until you realize I'm talking about how I don't have a licence.

Zolrak 22
February 16th, 2017, 08:47
I'm waiting until you realize I'm talking about how I don't have a licence.
You mean any license at all or just the Japanese one?


Edit: Even with public transportation, who doesn't have a license just for the heck of it? [emoji14]

mothy
February 16th, 2017, 09:27
Japanese license is expensive so I've never bothered to get one and recently I noticed my US license expired last year. So I guess I don't have a license right now.

Zolrak 22
February 16th, 2017, 11:12
So I guess I don't have a license right now.

But at the very least you *had* a license before coming to Japan.

Ananasboat
February 16th, 2017, 14:29
I feel like I've addressed my lack of licence already in the past and it's not the point of this post. But really, if you live in a place where there's tons of public transportation, you don't always think about becoming a paper driver.

Zolrak 22
February 17th, 2017, 15:21
I feel like I've addressed my lack of licence already in the past and it's not the point of this post. But really, if you live in a place where there's tons of public transportation, you don't always think about becoming a paper driver.
I know I sound like an @5@8| when I say it, but I still blend your identity together with the other food girl sometimes. [emoji29]

acpc2203
February 17th, 2017, 15:45
Watch the language