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unknown
May 25th, 2004, 05:03
Ok, I understand that right now that there is a frenzy going on for people waiting to hear about their placements, congratulations to those who know where they're going....and to those who don't, well waiting sucks, but atleast you know you're going to Japan!!

I'm just writing this little message because I get the feeling that there is no hope for us alternates anymore!! It's as though every person on the shortlist is going!!! Argh!!!

If you're an alternate like who feels left out, anxious, scared...please say so!! I hope I'm not alone!! :cry:

adammoogle
May 25th, 2004, 05:10
hey now don't feel so blue! :(

i was an alternate and look at me now, bitching about been stuck in inaka with only the mukade for company...

honestly theres hope, i mean now placements are out there should be a rush of people dropping out and upgrades a plenty :D

i know its crap advice but jets just one way to get to japan, have a back up plan, be ready to do something if jet dosn't call, and just try not to think too much about it...

...told u it was crap, but if they'll let me in anyones got a chance! :)

Nui
May 25th, 2004, 05:11
Unknown,

you are not alone! I'm still waiting for that chance to be upgraded too.

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

I have not totally given up hope yet. It's still too early. Maybe when July/August/September rolls around then I will probably let JET go.


Meanwhile, try to occupy yourself with alternative plans. I'm looking for a full time job right now for after graduation.

Nui

unknown
May 25th, 2004, 05:17
Yeah I know, thanks people....right now I've just finished uni so I have loadsa time on my hands...and plus checking BD and this site just drives me quackers!!

I guess it can't be helped, but you can't help how you feel...argh!! It's a vicious cycle!!

Well, I have given myself a cut off date, so if JET doesn't not contact me by the end of June, beginning of July, I guess I'll have to go with NOVA... :(

Anyway thanks people...sorry if my post was somewhat depressing, but I just wanted to knwo if anyone else felt the same! :)

adammoogle
May 25th, 2004, 05:21
no worries, it'll all turn out ok in the wash :D

oh and if u need any advice for the nova interview, i applied there and got in before i got the call from jet so i'd be glad to help, plus u'd have a nice urban location if thats your thing

hugs all round! :) :) :)

whats the bets you get the call monday morning when some wuss finally realises there going to japan and backs out! :twisted:

unknown
May 25th, 2004, 05:40
that would be good!! but knowing me, things like that'll never happen!! so the odds of them calling me...well...next to nothing?

nah i'm just being extra bitter me thinks....

oh if you could that'll be great!! the only good thing i heard about NOVA is that they place you in city's...everything is is a sham. But, atleast i'll be in Japan!! yay!!

So what kinda questions do they ask?? is the interview naything liek JET's?

unknown
May 25th, 2004, 05:40
oops

where are my manners? i forgot to say thank you Adam. :D

MinkyMomo
May 25th, 2004, 09:21
I know waiting sucks! I'm an alternate too! But don't worry it's still early! I bet in the next few weeks lots of people will be upgraded... and we'll be among them! :D

Xeno
May 25th, 2004, 09:47
Hey MinkyMomo, I hope you'll be upgraded asap. :)

Btw, your name is from that cute Japanese anime? :D I also love anime. I'm not into anime for chicks ones though. Ah, I wonder if my favorite Love Hina is one of them.....? Oops. :oops:

http://images.google.com/images?hl=ja&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=minky+momo&btnG=Google+%E6%A4%9C%E7%B4%A2

MrSnrub
May 25th, 2004, 10:31
Considering the situation in Love Hina (geeky guy surrounded by woman who all fall in love with him) I wouldn't think it's a girl's anime. I'll check with my language exchange friend who will be more expert then me, I've been well wrong before.

As for the alternates I suppose now is the big time where as someone pointed out people are going to be suddenly realising where they are going and what they may be in for. Their loss could be your gain.

Shinikenshi
May 25th, 2004, 10:56
Love Hina is certainly not a girl's anime nor is anything else conjured up by Akamatsu Ken (the author). Anyways...

I am thinking of NOVA as well nowadays (even more so with all this waiting) but hopefully things will look up and some word of possible upgrading will manifest itself.

If only there wasn't final exams to worry about. Bugger. --;

Chris

llumynia
May 25th, 2004, 11:39
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unknown
May 25th, 2004, 12:20
hey thanks llumynia, er....I'm not sure what it's from, but I can tell you that I copied it from some random website.

Sorry about your husband, but I'm sure you'll still be going together right?

Hm..now that you mention it, what if I don't graduate? :( Now there's a thought...

llumynia
May 25th, 2004, 13:05
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cpwatkins21
May 25th, 2004, 15:05
I gave up hope after I e-mailed my consulate's coordinator about my chances to which she vaguely responded "well, there's still several alternates in front you . . ." and it's actually made me feel better. By pretending that JET said no, I can move on and not obsess so much. I'm not backing out or anything. If I get a call in August or September I'll still be JET's bitch and I'll pack up my stuff and go, but in the meantime I feel like losing hope has made me a lot saner.

MinkyMomo
May 25th, 2004, 16:46
Hey MinkyMomo, I hope you'll be upgraded asap. :)

Hey Xeno -

Thanks! I hoping to get upgraded soon! So you're in Japan.. are you a current JET?!

Haha.. yeah Minky Momo is an anime.. I dont know too much about it tho.. I use it cause of momo - peach!! I like peaches! But anime's cool too!

Xeno
May 25th, 2004, 16:56
Well, I'm not a current JET, MinkyMomo. Incoming. The reason why I put Japan is my heart is already in Japan. :D

bluebird
May 26th, 2004, 00:21
Hi there unknown,
I don't know where you're from but i'm from Eastern Canada and our Jet Coordinator told me when she upgraded me from the Alternate list that last year she was able to send all of her alternates. She also said that a lot of short listers were dropping this year. So don't give up yet.

feenix
May 26th, 2004, 03:29
Just a quick question... the JET app says that if one is selected for the program but drops out, they cannot apply for the following year. Does that apply to short-listers and alternates? Are they un-officially "accepted" and thus disqualified from applying the following year? I read a comment from another forum poster who said he dropped from the alternate list so that he could apply the following year... is that true? Just a bit confused...

Caru
May 26th, 2004, 03:35
I've also heard people say that with the job outlook not so good here (US midwest) for new graduates, fewer short-listers are dropping out... I suppose it matters which city you applied out of and what the situation is in that area. I think waiting is harder if you keep up with the discussion boards though -- it feels like the whole world is on the short list, when it's really just that only short-listers are posting right about now, since they're the ones getting placement news.

MinkyMomo
May 26th, 2004, 04:17
I think waiting is harder if you keep up with the discussion boards though -- it feels like the whole world is on the short list, when it's really just that only short-listers are posting right about now, since they're the ones getting placement news.


Tell me about it! I need stop looking at these message boards. It just makes me more anxious.

adammoogle
May 26th, 2004, 04:24
i'm back from searching the web for details on my placement, looks like i better pack some snow boots and thermals... 8O...ah well, time to do my duty as an upgraded alternate :)


Just a quick question... the JET app says that if one is selected for the program but drops out, they cannot apply for the following year. Does that apply to short-listers and alternates?

I think you can drop at any time before you get your placement, and still apply next year. so say you got upgraded, u could still drop out and not get penalised so long as you didn't no where you were going yet. f however you wait until you get your placement info and then say hell no, you can't reapply, obviously to try and stop so many people dropping out when they find out there in the sticks with me!... :roll:


So what kinda questions do they ask?? is the interview naything liek JET's?

well, not really is the short answer...for lots of info on all things eikaiwa check out
http://www.letsjapan.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=PNphpBB2&file=index
be warned though, these guys take no prisoners!!! :twisted:

the nova interview started off with a presentation about nova, what teaching would be like, where you would live, costs of stuff, that kind of thing...its sales speil basically about how great nova is and how they sort out all your accomadation and blah blah blah, :P but take an interest in it and be sure to ask lots of questions (just don't question there no socialisation with students rule!!!), the guy giving it took lots of notes and i'm sure it counted towards the selection process...

oh, there was also a short bit where you had to get to know the person next to you and introduce them to the others in the group (there was about 14 people interviewing with me)

then there was the actual interview itself, which was just a one on one thing with a nova recruiter. basic questions about how you would get on as a minority, living abroad...just come across as easy going and open minded, willing to work hard and fit in... :)

then came the dreaded teaching demo, where you took the nova book and did a practice lesson out of it, can't remember what mine was but you had to say what the point of it was, how you would get that across (by student interaction and conversation!!) what you would do with an unruly student ect ect

and then they send you home...

i should warn you nova has a bad reputation on the net...and theres other ways to get to japan...

hope that helps, fingers crossed for you all, i'll sacrifice a few chickens to the local demi-god if u think it will help...

unknown
May 26th, 2004, 06:24
Well, it seems I'm not the only one left out!! :D But obviosuly it's not a good thing..... :roll:

Illumynia = Don't worry about it, you've been great...I'm just in a weird mood thats all. And yeah I understand what you mean about your husband, but hey..it's their loss! :wink:

Bluebird = Thanks for the info, I'm from UK so I'm not sure it applies to us, but heres hoping!! I do hope they speed things up though, the whole bloody system needs re-wiring, they make you wait forever!! Good luck to you too!!

Adammoogle = hey thanks again for the info, i'm sure i won't need to use NOVA (because JET WILL call!!) but it's good to have a back up plan.

Good luck to all those alternates out there!! You're not alone!!

Shinikenshi
May 27th, 2004, 07:38
Hmm...at this point in time I am really starting to think that my chances are pretty weak for an upgrade. I'm probably blowing things out of proportion, but I didn't get anything useful in a response from the folks at the LA consulate when I e-mailed them yesterday. Just a "I can't tell you if/when you will be upgraded."

Sure, the LA consulate stated that they can't give out any information on the alternate list and all that, but it is nerve wracking still waiting for some sort of response. Heck, if they said to me "no chance in hell" then that would be fine so I can at least forget about JET and concentrate on my studies. Damn finals.

Woops. Sorry for ranting folks. This is definitely something that is not needed here. m(_)(_)m

Chris

unknown
May 27th, 2004, 08:31
Hey Shinikenshi

I know how you feel, because when I started this thread I just wanted to hear about other alternates to see if there wereb any left!! Because it seemed that everybody was talking about placements, and here I am still waiting to be upgraded!!

As many have said already, I don't think there's much we can do. I guess when all the shortlisters' have received their placements and either accept or reject, that is when we will have our chance...obviously it's all about waiting...like everything else on this programme.

I'm sure they'll call us soon.....actually they better had.....I know where they work!! :twisted:

MinkyMomo
May 27th, 2004, 08:40
I'm trying to keep myself from freaking out. But it really is still early - theres plenty of time to be upgraded! I do think the LA consulate is a bit stingy with information - maybe they just want to be super sure before they let us know if we'll be upgraded. I e-mailed Angel to ask how many alternates were upgraded last year and she wouldn't even give me that information. I got this...

"As every year changes, there is no real way to determine how many individuals will be upgraded. Last year, I upgraded a handful, but that may or may not be the case this year. Also, since I cannot tell you your chances of being upgraded, I ask that you please be patient."

I just wanted to know numbers and I didn't even get that. Oh well.. we have to continue playing the waiting game.... :?:

unknown
May 27th, 2004, 08:48
MinkyMomo I also got a similar response when I called up at the beginning of May. I called the embassy up to check that they received my reply form (because for some reason my post office couldn't say?! what do we pay them for?! :evil: ) anyway I rang them up, and they did receive it. But out of curiosity I asked whether she could let me know what were the chances of being upgraded, and she said something similar to your reply.

Then I kinda exaggerated and said I may be out of the country at the end of June (which may be true) and she put me on hold for about a minute, before returning to say 'I'm sorry but we cannot give any information out'.

So, it seems they're all stingy with info!!

But yeah, it does seem like us alternates are just waiting forever :(

Shinikenshi
May 27th, 2004, 10:28
I think the LA consulate is especially stingy with info. Maybe its the LA mentality. Heheh. :D

But yeah, I honestly shouldn't worry that much since it is still a bit early and all. Gotta keep the faith!

Chris

Caru
May 28th, 2004, 08:13
LA does sound stingier with info than most of the others. When I asked (Chicago), I was told I was "in the middle" of the list -- not real helpful, but slightly better than nothing. I'm kind of surprised you were told only "a handful" were upgraded last year, since we were told that "in previous years a majority of alternates who waited patiently were eventually upgraded." That sounds like a lot more than a handful... (Unless a lot of alternates withdraw from consideration early on, which may be the case, I suppose.)

MinkyMomo
May 28th, 2004, 08:59
I get the impression that it's pretty competitive if you apply from the LA consulate. I saw numbers from a couple years back and it looked like there was about 50% chance of upgrading. I'm thinking that maybe people that apply from LA and are accepted are less likely to back out. Arg! But maybe I'm wrong... I hope I am.

koaleia
May 28th, 2004, 12:03
Since we're all in the same boat together... I'm just looking for some empathy! But has anyone found that they've had to forgo certain things (ie. choice tickets to concerts, trips, plans w/family, etc) just in case you happened to get updated to the short-list?

I know of at least 2 singers that I can't buy tickets for (& have forever wanted to watch!), since I don't know if I'll be here in autumn! And also gave up my spot for a cruise to Alaska (never been on a cruise or to Alaska before).

I just hope this wait is worth it...

unknown
May 28th, 2004, 12:13
Trust me, I know exactly what you mean!!

I'm supposed to be going with my family to America in August, but I've had to say no because of JET, and it's really crappy because it'll be our first family holiday...ever!! :cry:

I'm taking all my holidays (short European trips) before July JUST IN CASE they call me and I need to give them my passport.

I agree, this had better be worth it!

koaleia
May 28th, 2004, 13:28
I finally decided that I could leave for vacation before July as well, since that'll still be an "okay"-enough amount of time to pack and prepare. I really want to be part of the A group that's heading over to Tokyo.

I'm just scared that I'll be one of those who'll get notified within 2 weeks of departure, or even worse, notified in August/September/October... or not at all !!!

But for now, it's finals, graduation... and Vegas 8) , until July~ Hopefully an update to the shortlist will be somewhere in there!!!

MinkyMomo
May 28th, 2004, 16:03
I've got vegas this weekend to help me keep my mind off of all this waiting... yay!

Caru
May 29th, 2004, 02:36
I wonder what happens if you're on vacation when they call you, though. If you don't get the message and call back promptly, will they just call the next person on the list, leaving you out of luck? I'm hoping to be on vacation part of July, but I don't want to miss a chance. Time to drag out the answering machine manual and see if I can retrieve messages remotely...

koaleia
May 29th, 2004, 03:51
I was planning on contacting the consulate before I left to let them know of my absence... and how it doesn't change my decision about the wait.

Besides, the contact # is to my cell (which I'll have), and I'm sure I can check my email as well.

Nui
May 29th, 2004, 04:30
Hey everyone,

I'm planning to call my consulate and let them know too when I'm going on vacation. Also change my contact # from home to my cell.

Angela, you gave up a spot to go on a cruise to Alaska!!!!!!!!!!
i say that you should just go and don't worry about it!!?? When is the cruise??

I have decided that I should not just put my life on hold too too much because of JET that is why I'm going to Alaska next week and other vacations throughout the summer with my family.

Besides if you have a cell phone with you and can check your e-mail then it should be no problem.

Nui

unknown
May 29th, 2004, 08:00
Ah...but when I'm travelling overseas my mobile doesn't have a voicemail!! Therefore I have given the embassy other contcat details because there is NO WAY IN HELL that I'm giving up my place to the next person (Sorry next person :roll: .... I hope you understand!)

Actually I've been thinking about my application and interview, and boy did I do crap!! Seriously...I kinda feel lucky to be an alternate...ish...

koaleia
May 29th, 2004, 08:08
The cruise was planned for either Labor Day weekend (or the week of) or October. My bf's family goes on a lot of cruises, and so there'll always be opportunities in the future... Or there BETTER be, considering I've missed out~ My bf isn't going to Alaska either since I'm not, given the past 3 cruises he's been on (without me!) were spent finding souveniers/writing/IM me.

I'll also be missing out on attending a (potential) wedding in November.

But in many ways, the benefits of going to Japan really does weigh more than staying around here...

Oh, if only I could receive the word !!!

MinkyMomo
June 1st, 2004, 10:51
The weekend is taking too long. I wish it were a weekday - at least there's a chance of hearing some kind of news.

Shinikenshi
June 1st, 2004, 16:58
The weekend is taking too long. I wish it were a weekday - at least there's a chance of hearing some kind of news.

I hear ya. I just got back from a convention (Fanime) over in San Jose this weekend hoping that I would come back to my apartment to see something in the mail. Only I found...

...credit card bills. At least they are paid off so I don't have to worry about them. :?

Back to the waiting.

Chris

Caru
June 3rd, 2004, 17:59
We Chicago alternates got this rather depressing update earlier today from the consulate:
"FYI, the alternate list hasn’t moved that much recently, so there’s no use calling to check at this time. Slow movement isn’t unusual for this time of year, but this year does seem slower than previous years, so I can’t predict how many of you will be left stranded. (Of course, every year I wonder how we’ll get through most of the alternate list, and every year we manage to get through most [i.e. all but 10 -15] . . . . Still, this year feels different. We’ll see what happens.) Sorry to increase your already considerable ‘alternate anxiety’."
NOT what I wanted to hear...

Shinikenshi
June 3rd, 2004, 19:25
Golly that sucks to hear. :?

In a weird sense though, I'm kinda wishing the Los Angeles consulate would even send all the alternates an e-mail like that (or of any sort!). Some information is better than no information.

Chris

unknown
June 4th, 2004, 07:34
Oh my :( .... not to make you worry more or anything, but that email wasn't nice at all!!

But I agree with shinikenshi, I'd rather know something than nothing at all!! Has anyone else called their embassy or consulate lately regarding the waiting list?? And has any of these people had any luck with regards to knowing their position on the list??

:roll:

Nui
June 4th, 2004, 07:47
I think I'm going to call my Consulate today since I will be gone on vacation for a week or so. I might sneak in a few questions about my chances of being upgrade.

Wish me luck!

Nui

MinkyMomo
June 4th, 2004, 08:26
I think I'm going to call my Consulate today since I will be gone on vacation for a week or so. I might sneak in a few questions about my chances of being upgrade.

Good Luck! Let us know how your sleuthing goes! :wink:

Shinikenshi
June 4th, 2004, 23:01
I think I'm going to call my Consulate today since I will be gone on vacation for a week or so. I might sneak in a few questions about my chances of being upgrade.

Good Luck! Let us know how your sleuthing goes! :wink:

Now all we need are some LA sleuths. Anyone game? :twisted:

koaleia
June 5th, 2004, 01:26
Nui,

Any news???

adammoogle
June 5th, 2004, 01:43
hello all you hopefuls, pray at my temple and all your wishes will be granted!

well, maybe not, but I do know that at least 5 more alternates have been upgraded from one ken alone.

good news eh? :)

only problem is that due to jet beauracracy you won't be informed until june 15th...eeeeeeeeek! 8O

but hang in there, the upgrades are a comin!

MinkyMomo
June 5th, 2004, 02:48
Adammoogle - Can you tell us which ken? And where did you get this information?!

Nui
June 5th, 2004, 04:58
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm so excited I can't even type!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm officially going to Japan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just got upgraded this morning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I called Lynn (Seattle JET Coordinator) yesterday afternoon to tell her that I will be on vacation next week. She told me that she was glad that I called to let her know.


Then we kept talking about my chance of being upgraded. She said that I'm somewhere on the top of the alternate list, but she didn't say anything specific. She went on to say that she can't guarantee that I will be upgraded because this year is going pretty slow for alternates and if I find a good job that I like just go ahead and take it.

After I got off the phone with her, I felt somewhat relieved because at least I'm somewhere on the top of the list and have a chance of getting upgraded, but I also felt that I should really concentrate on finding a job because she did said that it is going really slow for alternates this year.

So I made up my mind to get serious about finding a job............and then I got the call this morning from Lynn!!!!!!!!!!!!! At first she said that I will most likely be upgraded, but she just need to see the confirmation in writing first (someone lost the telegram from Tokyo), but told me to go ahead and set up a doctor's appointment. 15 minutes later she called back and officially confirmed that I'm being upgraded to short-list and asked me if I will accept or not! Of course I said yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I screamed and jump up and down and called my parents immediately after that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All the alternates, Please don't give up hope!!!!! and hang in there!!!!!!! Lynn told me that someone just dropped out and I will be replacing them.
So I'm sure more spots will be available as the departure date is getting close.

Thanks everyone for your encouragement!!!!! Eventhough it has been a long journey, the wait is definitely worth it.

Nui

koaleia
June 5th, 2004, 05:01
OMG, Nui.... that's SO great!!! That's exciting (& encouraging for me to hear!)

Wow, I wonder where *I* am on the list... =P

MinkyMomo
June 5th, 2004, 05:09
Nui! How exciting for you!! Congrats!

I'm beginning to see a trend with people that call their consulate for some reason or other and then soon hear news about them upgrading. Should I give them a ring also? Hmm...

But's it's great to hear news of people upgrading especially after the waiting and posting that we've been doing!

Nui
June 5th, 2004, 05:11
Thanks, Angela!!!

Have you call Lynn yet??? I think you should!!! Eventhough she won't tell you anything specific, she can give you a general idea of where you are.

Of course, she will probably say that she can't guarantee anything, but at least you will have a general idea.


Also, if you are going to be out of town definitely call Lynn to let her know.

Nui

koaleia
June 5th, 2004, 05:31
Nui,
I just emailed her since I wanted to verify my contact info (in case I uhm, wrote something totally WRONG) :-) I also gave her the specific days I will be out of town.

Since I'm at work, I feel a little funny calling her up... w/people being able to hear the conversation.

Nui
June 5th, 2004, 05:38
Thanks, MinkyMomo!!!!

I think you should try calling your consulate. They won't tell you anything specific, but at least they can give you general information about where you are on the list.

Lynn (Seattle JET Coordinator) didn't tell me anything specific when I called, but she did tell me that I'm somewhere on the top of the list (good to know). However, she also said that she can't guarantee anything even though I am somewhere on the top. She said back-up plan(s) is always a good idea too. Also if you are willing to stick it out then you should be willing to wait until end of August.

Good Luck!!!! I truly wish all of the alternates will be upgraded this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hang in there,
Nui

Syrinx
June 5th, 2004, 06:06
Congratulations Nui! So glad to hear that you were upgraded! My husband's still an alternate through Seattle and he's starting to lose hope, but it's good to know that people are still dropping out. Congratulations - that's so awesome!

Nui
June 5th, 2004, 06:11
I know how your husband feels!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was starting to lose hope too before I got the call. I thought that I would never be upgraded!!!!

Still, you never know!!!

Please don't give up yet!!!!!!!

I'm sure more spots will be available because departure date is coming up soon and people might just decide to drop out.

Nui

adammoogle
June 5th, 2004, 06:34
bah! there i was councelling patience and calm then all this action starts...oh well, congrats nui, its great being an upgraded alternate eh? :)

and to everyone still waiting...i know for a fact there are more notifications on the way (and more to come when final placement details are confirmed)

now, lets all hold hands and chant for good news and the winning lottery ticket

Shinikenshi
June 8th, 2004, 12:28
now, lets all hold hands and chant for good news and the winning lottery ticket

Doesn't sound too bad at all. As for right now its final examination crunch and I have papers to write. Would do loads of nothing if I manage to fail my exams and not graduate regardless of getting upgraded or not. x_x

Chris

motchamotcha
June 9th, 2004, 22:27
Just got upgraded via the Lonodn embassy.... Keep hoping guys! Good luck... Phil :P

MinkyMomo
June 13th, 2004, 12:53
Just got upgraded via the Lonodn embassy.... Keep hoping guys! Good luck... Phil :P

Congrats!

unknown
June 14th, 2004, 03:31
hey motchamotcha thats fantastic.....but where the heck is my call?

What time did they call? what did they say??

Im losing hope.... :(

motchamotcha
June 14th, 2004, 18:01
Just be patient, i'm sure your call will come. It was quite a random day actually... I was getting emails from long lost Japanese friends in the morning, followed by lots more interestingly japanese events. They called me at 2:00pm... "Would you like to goto Japan??".... "Er....!!!"

Phil

MinkyMomo
June 24th, 2004, 04:06
anymore news?!!!

Oak
June 24th, 2004, 09:33
Shucks, I stumbled across ithinkimlost and jumped into the forums, hoping to hear, "Tons of alternates are getting the call! Don't lose hope!" But it sounds like things are pretty tight this year...puts my stomach in a bit of a knot, been trying not to worry about it too much. What good does worrying do, anyhow? Still, I do it...man, I need a Tums.

Congrats to those who have been upgraded! Calling up the consulate to let 'em know when I'll be on vacation is a good idea, I think I'll do that tomorrow. Hopefully Lynn will be in a chatty mood. :wink:

Any more Alternate-List people get the good news?

andy_r
June 28th, 2004, 21:08
Hi,

I was an alternate until just last week then I was called up out of the blue by the London JET desk. To be honest, I'd pretty much given up hope and had started to plan other things but I'm delighted I'm going. Having said that, it's a bit scary and I'm sure people will drop out between now and departure when they realise what they've let themselves in for, so you still have a good chance.

Good luck

Andy

Oak
June 29th, 2004, 08:17
Hey Andy,

Congratulations! Thanks also for passing along the word that Alternate List folks are still getting called.

I did talk to Lynn in the Seattle Consulate and the hints were, unfortunately, not so encouraging. She said things like, "IF there is any more movement on the list in July..." and said that the list was moving slower than average. Oh well, I've decided if I don't make it this year, I'll get more Japanase language and teaching experience and try again for next year.

Godspeed in your planning and packing!

unknown
July 2nd, 2004, 04:27
Hey everyone!!

Just a message to say that I finally received the call!! I'm going to Japan!! :D I'm beyond words, just really happy.

Hey alternates...I'm sure you'll all get calls sooner or later, don't worry!! :wink:

Er..thats all really, I just wanted to say it.

Oh, I'm from UK, London.

Yay!!!

Edited because I spelt London wrong...hah! And they want me to teach English?! :lol:

Oak
July 2nd, 2004, 06:19
That's great! Congratulations :)

I happened to see my voicemail light blinking while I was reading your post, and my hopes skyrocketed for a moment. But...alas...no call from JET.

Anyhow, have fun getting organized and packing!

Later,

James
One Of The 10 or 15 That Get Left Behind Every Year

strawberry_aimimi
July 2nd, 2004, 11:31
Andy and unknown,

You guys are our stars of hope in this dark hour. 8O I was loosing hope in this tormented wait because it is very late already, and I haven't seen people being upgraded anymore in BD or here in quite some time. Seeing your messages really cheer me up and get my faith going. (But then you are both from UK) Anyways, thanks guys!!! :lol:

To Oak and others:

Andy and unknown's messages prove that we still have a chance, in fact, we WILL go, and we WILL go THIS YEAR, THIS MONTH! Yeah, every since I heard the first time that someone was getting upgraded in May, I had been very stressed up, always thinking that my call would come the next day at any time. Then I started to loose hope as we approached June, and as we approached the end of June, faith has abandoned me more rapidly each day until my heart died. I also tried to give the consulate my health certificate so that if I am ever upgraded, they can process things faster. But they did not even take that, saying that I have to wait, so my heart sinked. :cry: I really thought that is the end of me. :cry: Andy and unknown's messages really saved me. But now I got back to my old symptoms, with my stomach in a knot thinking that they would call me tomorrow. I totally understand you, Oak.

We should not loose hope, we are all in it together. Let's hang on!!! :lol: We WILL go this time!!! Not next year, not any other time!!! :wink:

unknown
July 2nd, 2004, 20:20
OAK

I know how you feel, because until yesterday I was already applying to NOVA and other jobs already. To be honest I didn't think I was going to Japan this year because nothing was going on!! You will not be left behind!! They will call you!!


strawberry_aimimi

Glad to be of service!! Anyway as I said above, I really didn't expect it, and I think they call you when you least expect it. I know its hard not to think about it, but try and do other things, maybe even start your plan B, and then that's when they'll surprise you!!

What I do suggest to alternates out there who are 100% sure of going and who are really, really enthusiastic (still) then I was advised this by soemone really helpful on BD. Give your consulate/embassy a call and ask them very kindly if they could tell you where you are on the list. Usually they won't. However, get them into a converstaion and tell them how much you really want to go with JET. This lets them know that you're still keen and maybe even up your chances on being next on the list...maybe that's what happened with me!! :wink:

Good luck people and don't lose faith!!

Oak
July 7th, 2004, 00:40
Thanks for the words of encouragement, both of you. Unknown, that's good advice...I don't know if I increased my chances at all by calling in (especially since I said I'd wait until October...hmm...might have lowered my chances there!), but it was good to at least talk with Lynn and get some feedback. :) Keep that positive attitude, Strawberry!

Shinikenshi
July 7th, 2004, 01:59
Haven't posted to the board in a bit, but I do have some interesting info and all that.

I was coming back from Japan on a short trip with some friends when I finally got a call from the Los Angeles Consulate while I was at LAX last week. BUT...it was just a call to see if I was still "interested" in staying on the waitlist. I thought that was rather weird, but I did voice my concern to Angel (the lady at the JET office in LA) about wanting to look for other jobs soon. I got absolutely no real response through these e-mails though as the folks were being very tight-lipped about positioning and stuff. There were days I wish they'd just tell me if I had no chance in getting upgraded than if I had ANY chance!

Anyways, Angel informs me that she completely gave me the wrong info during the those e-mails and said that I was at the top of the waitlist and that there was going to be a new round of upgrades last Friday. However its Tuesday now and I have heard nothing from the consulate. I'm hoping that it was because of holidays that I got no response or maybe I got the wrong info again and I'm not really in the #1 spot. So I'm either in a good spot or...still in limbo and all that. :?

Good luck with everyone else playing the waiting game. :)

Chris

MinkyMomo
July 8th, 2004, 01:59
Wow! Angel Called you?? That' is some progress. I'm sure you'll get your call soon. Me on the other hand... I don't know. I haven't heard any word from them...

Oak
July 8th, 2004, 02:34
That's some crazy stuff, Shinikenshi! Hehe, makes me think if I wasn't at the bottom of the list before, I am now after telling them I'd wait till the bitter end. :lol: I probably shouldn't be amused by that, but I suppose it's all conjecture anyway. Well, I hope you get the call soon! Let us know if you do.

Hang in there Minky...keep a positive outlook, like in Dumb & Dumber (forgive me if I don't quote the scene completely accurately):

Lloyd: "So what are the chances of a guy like you and a girl like me..."

Mary: "I'd say...one in a million."

Lloyd: (after a long pause) "So you're saying I have a chance!"

Caru
July 8th, 2004, 03:09
I'm in! Last Friday started out rather depressing -- I was given up hope of ever being upgraded, and my great-uncle had just died. When I got back from the funeral, though, there was a message on my answering machine from the Chicago JIC. A spot had opened up! I'm just glad I heard AFTER the funeral, or I would have had a hard time looking suitably mournful, much as I loved my great-uncle!
I've spent the last few days semi-frantically beginning to get ready. I have no idea yet where I'll be, and not even whether I'll be leaving July 24 with the main Chicago group, or mid-August with Group C. Right now I don't really care! (Well, I care, but after the huge uncertainty of the last few months, this little bit of the unknown isn't going to get to me!)
Good luck, everyone!

Shinikenshi
July 10th, 2004, 02:35
News from LA folks!

Looks like I'm in as well! Angel called me up a few minutes ago to tell me I got the upgrade though I still don't know exactly where I'm going. Japan will never know what hit them! :twisted:

To Oak, MinkyMomo and others still holding on: Don't lose faith! I pretty much gave up thinking about getting upgrade even with the random waitlist phone call 2 weeks ago, but it looks like the lists are still moving. Just stay cool and good things will happen. :)

Chris

unknown
July 12th, 2004, 01:36
shinikenshi thats great news!! Congrats!!

strawberry_aimimi
July 13th, 2004, 12:42
unknown,

Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately, I did it a few times already, it did'nt work. It seems that the LA consulate is the nicest and although I do not know Angel, from all that I have read about her, it seems that she really is as sweet and caring as an angel. I envy the LA JETs. Angel told you where you approx. are on the list, and that is the most caring thing people in her position can do. Really, the most caring thing! We know that she can't move us up. Telling us our position surely would make us feel less left out. I read somewhere that some other consulates also tell people their ranks or at least give people a date that they should call to find out their approx. ranks. I called my consulate once every 3 weeks or so until June, and half of the times I did not give my name, just in case that would be bad consequences. When I gave my name, of course they did not tell me where I am in the list, but Unknown, how can I start a conversation when their aim is to terminate any chances of conversation? They answers are always "We don't know", "We don't have any info", ... Those are really good answers, excellent questions-blockers, because then we can't talk to them since they don't know anything. If your question is about whether you might be upgraded, then they would answer coldly, "Have you got a call from us telling you that yet?" Then meanly wait for you to reply. I would have to say not yet (If I did, why would I still ask you that question!!!) And they would reply, "Then no." Followed by, "Contacting us won't get you upgraded faster." Well, I am not trying to make you move me up faster by calling (although I would hope so if that is possible), I am just trying to see how it is going. How can you start a conversation with those people???? When their sole anwer is they don't know??? I also sent an email in May and still no reply from them so I have not sent any email since. Also please keep in mind that I was being very friendly in all my calls and my email. There was no hostile languages from me, and I always apologized for calling too. I still don't know where I am approx. on the list, and what is the percentage of alternates who have been upgraded. I said before, they like to torture us. For me, it is all dark and alone, that's why I am so stressed-up and feeling sad. If I have Angel, I would at least feel that there is someone who understands at the consulate. Now, I just feel extremely depressed, and want to cry sometimes.[/b]

strawberry_aimimi
July 13th, 2004, 12:47
Congratulations to Shinikenshi and Caru!!! Happy ending finally.

Good luck to MinkyMomo, Oak, myself, and all the other alternates.

MinkyMomo
July 14th, 2004, 17:10
Good luck to MinkyMomo, Oak, myself, and all the other alternates.

Thanks strawberry_aimimi! Good luck to you too.

Hmm.. I'm from the LA consulate but I haven't really gotten any information. I e-mailed Angel yesterday and still haven't heard back. I asked if she could possible let me know where I stand. Since I haven't heard anything I'm thinking I'm probably far down the list. =( But I'm still hoping... we'll see. I've heard of Angel being a really nice person - but she seems indifferent to me. Anyway.. good luck to anyone still waiting....!!!

unknown
July 15th, 2004, 07:06
strawberry_amimi

wow...i thought our embassy was harsh!! sorry to hear that. but i do know what you're saying because when i first found out i was an alternate i felt my world crashed down on me. seriously. and i immediately called the embassy only to be told to 'go away' and wait....obviously not in those exact words, but it might aswell have been. i always made excuses to call them, such as informing them of my temporary contact number while i was on holiday...or if they had received my forms...just anything!! i was beginning to think the woman knew who i was by the sound of my voice!!

then, sometime in june, i called to ask them if they had called because i was on holiday for the past few weeks. they said they didnt and the conversation seemed doomed. then i said soemthing along the lines of 'i know you didnt call me, i just hoped you had. and i know you probably cant tell me exactly where i am on your list, or my chances of going to japan. I understand this. but please understand that i am eager to go to japan, and that i am still very interested in the programme..if you could at least tell me whether i should bother waiting, or whether you think i should just get on with other things'. she then asked me to hold, and then came back saying 'im sorry, but we cannot give you any information, however, do you have any back up plans or otehr jobs on the line? i said i did, and that i had interviews and jobs lined up, but that i still wanted to place jet as priority. she then said 'as i said, i cannot tell you your chances because you may move, you may not. but i will tell you that you are very very close'.

that was it....i was going to hang on no matter what.

and i was called a week or so after that.

i do know how you feel, because i was in your shoes only a few weeks ago. I felt like giving up many times because no one was backing out, and my call never came. i felt like crying because i put so much into this.

theres nothing i can say to make anyone feel better, because nothing can be better than hearing what you want to hear...but please dont give up...theres hope yet. just keep yourself busy with other things...i bet they'll call you when you're getting ready for an interview for a job!! 8)

Oak
July 20th, 2004, 02:03
Grats Caru and Shini! Glad to hear the line's still moving, and that you're both on "the other side" now. :) I'm still hoping for the best, but planning for the worst. I recognize that a lot of JETs needed the positions more than I did; at least I have a stable job that has been really flexible with my dream of going to Japan.

Still, it's really saddening to still be left out. Strawberry, I understand how you're feeling. So many of my friends and family have been asking for updates on how things are going, I feel like I've let not only myself down, but them as well. I wish I had more experience, done better in the interview, or at least knew what my chances really were at this stage (although I know they're somewhere around slim to none). That really is too bad that your consulate is so demeaning and evasive. I know they have to be evasive, but they should at least be polite about it. Ah, well...

Unknown, thanks for the encouragement and empathy! Even though I don't know any of you by face or name, I am very happy that so many of you have made it so far! We all have our various reasons for going, but it's a common dream that we all can relate to. The adventure, the challenge - seeing just exactly what we're made of and surprising ourselves with just how adaptable we can become - these are the things that make Japan the worthy dream that it is. I hope, if not this year, to one day be there in the gloriously chaotic thick of it all with my fellow JETs. Good luck and Godspeed!

fenyx66
July 27th, 2004, 02:18
I had completely given up hope, Group A flew out yesterday, (that would have been my group if I had been short-listed), and I am stuck in America. No hope left. Every night since I heard that I was an alternate, I slept with my phone on my nightstand and turned up the ring volume just so I could hear them call me from the Atlanta General Consulate. Last night I left the silence on and the phone in my pants pockets because they won't call me now, they've left me. I wake up at 10:00 am, check my phone and there is a call from Atlanta, I thought it would be another wrong number, but when I listened to the Voice Message and it was from the Jet Program, my heart gave a leap. I called back and no one was there, I called the wrong number, she had given me the wrong number to call back on, a disconnected number. I tried the vm again just to double check and I had somehow mistaken a 2 for a 4 (I've no idea how I did that). I called back and found out that a position had opened for me and if I wanted to accept. Of course I accepted.

There is still hope, don't give up alternates. Just turn off your phone or something because they will call when you are not prepared. Anyway, thats my story.

I AM GOING TO JAPAN!!!!!!!!

Shinikenshi
July 27th, 2004, 04:14
Slick! Congrats fenyx66! I'm assuming that means you are in Departure Group C then? If that's the case I'll see you in Tokyo in August with the other 10 Group C people. Heh. :p

Well, I'm sure there are more than 10 people, but it seems we are so small in number compared to the other groups. We are after all, a secret society of highly trained commando ninja types. Hence the small size. C is for commando! :lol:

<--- Obviously is not awake yet and thus types as if he was high.

Chris

lilla_hallon
July 28th, 2004, 00:29
Hi all! Good luck to those still waiting, and dont give up hope. In my neighboring town in Japan, a guy just dropped out. People will up until Group B leaves, and even after. Last year, one girl arrived in Narita, said 'this was a mistake' and got on the next flight home. 3 people in my prefecture realized they had made a mistake and left after a few weeks and were replaced.

It is great over here, so I hope you all keep hoping. We have our fingers crossed that more enthusiastic people like you alternates get chosen. :)

strawberry_aimimi
July 30th, 2004, 09:25
fenyx66,

I totally understand how you felt before you got upgraded. I have been dreaming about myself as a JET ever since I heard about the program, it literally appears in my dreams on and on. I saw my students and my school. I openned up the big envelope in April eagerly, thinking that since it's big, I was in luck. The world collapsed on me when I found out my true postion. Since last week, because of the Group A departure and the upcoming Group B, I can feel my heart getting shredded and it seems that all my dreams turned into broken bubbles. Each time I tried to pick up a piece, the shape edge of the broken glass cut into me and I bleed more. I am becoming more paranoid. Thus I also have a supersitution on my phone. And each time I look at the screen, I hope for that special message.

I can also imagine your, Nui's, Shinikenshi's, unknown's and other alternates' excitement when you found that you have been upgraded. I can see myself being all hyped up.

Well, I am hanging on now, faith will open up a way for me. :) [/b]

Shinikenshi
August 2nd, 2004, 17:56
Gives +100 to faith for everyone still waiting. :)

Chris

MinkyMomo
August 3rd, 2004, 07:21
I'm still playing the waiting game also. Please send some hope out to me and I'll do the same for those where are still waiting. :)

unknown
August 3rd, 2004, 07:43
Haven't posted for a while as I've been really busy trying to sort my life out!

Congrats to all those who have been upgraded...and ganbatte to all those still waiting!

Well, this may come as a surprise to some, but a few people already know of my situation (I posted in another thread). Basically, I'm sorry to say that I may not be able to go to Japan as a JET. This is not something that I wanted, because the chance of going to Japan was like winning the lottery!! However, because of circumstances beyond my control, I may have to pull out. It's a shame because I really wanted to go, and meet everyone. But hey..it gives another chance to one of you alternates out there..

So, good luck to everyone!!

Oak
August 11th, 2004, 14:48
Hey Guys,

Glad to read some updates...I was so depressed after the 23rd that I gave up on hoping for this year. Now the plan is to hope for next year! I'm actually pretty excited after the initial disappointment...since I work for a college, I can take free Japanese classes, and I'll also be an ESL tutor thanks to a generous professor. Hopefully that'll put me over the edge so I can get on the short list next year. Bah, it's only a year!

May those still waiting and hoping receive good news! And Unknown, sorry to hear you won't be going! That's really too bad. I hope you go next year.

Peace,

James

MinkyMomo
August 12th, 2004, 02:48
My thoughts exactly... it's only a year! That year will go by so fast and maybe at this time next year we'll be in Japan.

I still haven't given up hope for this year. Still have until the end of August. But if I have to wait another year... so be it. There will be a lot more time to study my Japanese. Good luck to all that are still waiting. JET will happen in time.