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goloons
June 17th, 2008, 03:48
Hey everybody. I'm looking for some guidance on what I can expect when I talk about my family during my introductions at my schools. My little brother was adopted from Colombia, and so when I show photographs of my family, it'll be very obvious that the little hispanic kid doesn't look anything like the rest of his blond-haired, blue-eyed family. I get enough questions about him here in the US, so I'm wondering if anybody has any idea of what I can expect when I get to Japan. I'm going to be living on a very inaka little island, so I doubt they've experience a mixed race family firsthand before.

I just hope that when he comes to visit me, nobody thinks he's my boyfriend. >.<

Petesmp
June 17th, 2008, 05:53
All Gaijin look the same to them... It probably won't matter and probably won't be that many questions.

"It's like Being A Black Guy back home only there's less of us"
- From the "classic" film Mr.Baseball

ChuChuRocket!
June 17th, 2008, 07:42
All Gaijin look the same to them... It probably won't matter and probably won't be that many questions.

"It's like Being A Black Guy back home only there's less of us"
- From the "classic" film Mr.Baseball

Yeah, they'd only ask questions if your little bro was asian.

"Yes kids, even though they look asian, they're actually American."

"Oooooooohhhhhhhh"

swedeinshiga
June 17th, 2008, 08:22
honestly..................

*golf clap*

jonesinjapan
June 17th, 2008, 08:27
Thats going to be pretty interesting then, I have 6 siblings and we all look very different, I hope they get some kick out of that.

Ini
June 17th, 2008, 08:32
Why does every new ALT think they are special? It doesnt matter what you look like, where you are from, or who you are - you turn up, read a few sentences out a textbook, everyone will gasp in patronizing wonder at you and 2 months after you leave nobody will remember you.

nothing123
June 17th, 2008, 08:34
Why does every new ALT think they are special? It doesnt matter what you look like, where you are from, or who you are - you turn up, read a few sentences out a textbook, everyone will gasp in patronizing wonder at you and 2 months after you leave nobody will remember you.

Sadly it's so true. Less than a year after the previous ALT left and most of the kids don't remember who she was.

jonesinjapan
June 17th, 2008, 08:34
wow you really put it into perspective :roll:

swedeinshiga
June 17th, 2008, 08:36
why would ppl in Japan find it so amusing that some one in some ines family don't look like the rest of the family????????// You are aware that alot of Japanese ppl thinks that white and black ppl look the same right? (yes I said black, and yes this is actually true)

Hyakuman
June 17th, 2008, 09:37
Why does every new ALT think they are special? It doesnt matter what you look like, where you are from, or who you are - you turn up, read a few sentences out a textbook, everyone will gasp in patronizing wonder at you and 2 months after you leave nobody will remember you.

Yup.

goloons
June 17th, 2008, 11:56
Thanks everybody. It does end up being a big deal here ("OMGWTFBBQ your brother is Mexican!" ...because anybody from south of the US is Mexican, obviously), so I was just curious. I'm really glad that it'll be a non-issue there.

nothing123
June 17th, 2008, 12:00
They're not complete idiots. If you show them pics of your family they'll ask who he is and why he's different. They just won't really care too much though.

swedeinshiga
June 17th, 2008, 12:04
They're not complete idiots. .

hmmmmmmmmmmm...........I don't know................

Ini
June 17th, 2008, 12:06
He will just look like he has a bit of a suntan, they might assume he is a good tennis player because he obviously practices for long periods of time outside.

Caito
June 17th, 2008, 13:16
He will just look like he has a bit of a suntan, they might assume he is a good tennis player because he obviously practices for long periods of time outside.

I agree completely with this statement.

LaurenRox
June 17th, 2008, 13:57
I don't understand your statement about hoping they wouldn't think he's your boyfriend.

My brother doesn't look like my exact double with a wig on. Do you think same-race siblings wouldn't come across this same "problem"?

kiwimusume
June 17th, 2008, 16:49
Sadly it's so true. Less than a year after the previous ALT left and most of the kids don't remember who she was.

As opposed to my kids, who recently asked me if I was planning on marrying Pred-sensei. :?

Though for the most part I agree with what Seth said.

Powers
June 17th, 2008, 16:53
Sadly it's so true. Less than a year after the previous ALT left and most of the kids don't remember who she was.

As opposed to my kids, who recently asked me if I was planning on marrying Pred-sensei. :?

Though for the most part I agree with what Seth said.

I think they must believe we all come from a magical "ALT-Land" I also got asked if I was the husband of Pred's-Pred-Sensei...that one was really weird.

MostHolyPorcine
June 17th, 2008, 19:40
I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't notice at all. My aunt recently adopted a half Hispanic/half black baby girl....and when I showed the pictures to my JTEs, every last one of them thought she was her natural daughter. They just asked me why my aunt let the baby get such a deep tan :roll:

Zee
June 17th, 2008, 20:25
My brother and I bear a very strong resemblance to each other. I've had a friend traveling out of state pick him out in a bar and ask if he was my brother. And yet, when I showed one of my classes his picture they asked me if he was my boyfriend... :|

So it doesn't matter what he looks like, there's always a good chance they will ask if he's your boyfriend/husband.

swedeinshiga
June 17th, 2008, 20:51
I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't notice at all. My aunt recently adopted a half Hispanic/half black baby girl....and when I showed the pictures to my JTEs, every last one of them thought she was her natural daughter. They just asked me why my aunt let the baby get such a deep tan :roll:

told ya :lol:

LaurenRox
June 17th, 2008, 22:18
The students I tutor saw a picture of my brother next to Condoleezza Rice...and asked me if she was his girlfriend.

nothing123
June 17th, 2008, 22:55
Answer: Come on guys! That's Condoleeza Rice...

*blanks stares*














OF COURSE it's his girlfriend, DUH!

Sciby
June 17th, 2008, 23:04
I bet she's a starfish in the sack.

goloons
June 18th, 2008, 00:35
I don't understand your statement about hoping they wouldn't think he's your boyfriend.

My brother doesn't look like my exact double with a wig on. Do you think same-race siblings wouldn't come across this same "problem"?

No, I've had enough warnings to know that it's going to happen. I just think it's going to be the slightest bit more likely that I'll have that problem than the siblings who look almost identical.

Yet as much as I hope, I know they will ask. And ask the same question about my dad, and male friend who comes to visit, and male friend who doesn't come to visit... etc.

Urthona
June 18th, 2008, 02:18
The students I tutor saw a picture of my brother next to Condoleezza Rice...and asked me if she was his girlfriend.

You never seen something like that happen in the US or in your homecountry if you aren't from the US? I remember someone from high school who thought Cheney was someone's grandfather.

EDIT: On the subject of the topic - you could always bring up the raclally mixed nature of the US. If my students notice that my parents don't look the same or I need a lesson about American culture, I'll use my parents as examples of immigrants who came from the UK, one Welsh, the other Anglo-Indian and mention that my state has no majority ethnicity. That could help them learn the differences between the US in reality and in pop culture.

MostHolyPorcine
June 18th, 2008, 02:21
I bet she's a starfish in the sack.

Seriously! Who hasn't fantasized about Condi dripping hot candle wax on your balls while lecturing you about gitmo?


....just me? OK then.

swedeinshiga
June 18th, 2008, 08:20
The students I tutor saw a picture of my brother next to Condoleezza Rice...and asked me if she was his girlfriend.

You never seen something like that happen in the US or in your homecountry if you aren't from the US? I remember someone from high school who thought Cheney was someone's grandfather.

EDIT: On the subject of the topic - you could always bring up the raclally mixed nature of the US. If my students notice that my parents don't look the same or I need a lesson about American culture, I'll use my parents as examples of immigrants who came from the UK, one Welsh, the other Anglo-Indian and mention that my state has no majority ethnicity. That could help them learn the differences between the US in reality and in pop culture.

how the hell can you be anglo indian?????

LaurenRox
June 18th, 2008, 08:41
I don't understand your statement about hoping they wouldn't think he's your boyfriend.

My brother doesn't look like my exact double with a wig on. Do you think same-race siblings wouldn't come across this same "problem"?

No, I've had enough warnings to know that it's going to happen. I just think it's going to be the slightest bit more likely that I'll have that problem than the siblings who look almost identical.

Yet as much as I hope, I know they will ask. And ask the same question about my dad, and male friend who comes to visit, and male friend who doesn't come to visit... etc.

"Warnings" from who, though? Everyone I know warned me that I should dye my hair black so I don't get mobbed in the street by gawkers. People are idiots.

And why would people mistaking him for your boyfriend happen more in Japan that it has in the states or any other country in the world? People mistake my brother for my boyfriend here and in the states. I guess I should stop making out with him in public.

But seriously. Every single male friend I walk with on the street, students come up and ask if we're dating. They don't, however, ask me if Brad Pitt is my brother just because we're both white.

I'm just wondering why some people go out of their way to hem and haw that their situation will be unique and wacky, when they could just relax and understand that EVERYONE will get strange questions...just like back home! 8O

Ini
June 18th, 2008, 08:44
Why are you so sensitive about people thinking your brother is your boyfriend? Did you get drunk and fuck once?

nothing123
June 18th, 2008, 14:27
Why are you so sensitive about people thinking your brother is your boyfriend? Did you get drunk and fuck once?

Or were you dead sober?

mothy
June 18th, 2008, 17:42
Why are you so sensitive about people thinking your brother is your boyfriend? Did you get drunk and fuck once?

Or were you dead sober?

And more than once?

WesleyCrusher
June 19th, 2008, 02:31
Yeah, I'm Asian and my parents are white/honkies/hakujin. It's really not a hard concept to grasp though, I'm sure these kids who are 13+ will get it while not caring terribly.

patjs
June 19th, 2008, 02:34
Yeah, I'm Asian and my parents are white/honkies/hakujin. It's really not a hard concept to grasp though, I'm sure these kids who are 13+ will get it while not caring terribly.

I dunno about that.

One of my good friends from when I studied there was adopted korean too. She had a ton of trouble getting adults to grasp the concept her parents are white.

WesleyCrusher
June 19th, 2008, 02:38
Yeah, I'm Asian and my parents are white/honkies/hakujin. It's really not a hard concept to grasp though, I'm sure these kids who are 13+ will get it while not caring terribly.

patjs
June 19th, 2008, 02:41
Ok since we're just repeating ourselves I'll try again:

My friend was in the same situation and got extremely frustrated with people who couldn't understand the concept of whities adopting asian babies.

coffee
June 19th, 2008, 02:44
The students I tutor saw a picture of my brother next to Condoleezza Rice...and asked me if she was his girlfriend.

You never seen something like that happen in the US or in your homecountry if you aren't from the US? I remember someone from high school who thought Cheney was someone's grandfather.

EDIT: On the subject of the topic - you could always bring up the raclally mixed nature of the US. If my students notice that my parents don't look the same or I need a lesson about American culture, I'll use my parents as examples of immigrants who came from the UK, one Welsh, the other Anglo-Indian and mention that my state has no majority ethnicity. That could help them learn the differences between the US in reality and in pop culture.

how the hell can you be anglo indian?????

...think about it, i'm sure you can work it out.

WesleyCrusher
June 19th, 2008, 07:43
Ok since we're just repeating ourselves I'll try again:

My friend was in the same situation and got extremely frustrated with people who couldn't understand the concept of whities adopting asian babies.

HAHAHAHAHA sorry I can't stop laughing since you actually responded to the accidental repeat post. For some reason that strikes me as really funny.

I guess I don't mind if they understand or not. I'm just a lowly gaijin in the end anyway! And plus I'll never understand why Japanese girls always drool in porn.

swedeinshiga
June 19th, 2008, 08:29
The students I tutor saw a picture of my brother next to Condoleezza Rice...and asked me if she was his girlfriend.

You never seen something like that happen in the US or in your homecountry if you aren't from the US? I remember someone from high school who thought Cheney was someone's grandfather.

EDIT: On the subject of the topic - you could always bring up the raclally mixed nature of the US. If my students notice that my parents don't look the same or I need a lesson about American culture, I'll use my parents as examples of immigrants who came from the UK, one Welsh, the other Anglo-Indian and mention that my state has no majority ethnicity. That could help them learn the differences between the US in reality and in pop culture.

how the hell can you be anglo indian?????

...think about it, i'm sure you can work it out.

a white Indian????

Elfen
June 19th, 2008, 08:37
And plus I'll never understand why Japanese girls always drool in porn.

That may be the best non sequitur ever. Also, it makes me glad I don't watch Jporn.

patjs
June 19th, 2008, 08:41
Ok since we're just repeating ourselves I'll try again:

My friend was in the same situation and got extremely frustrated with people who couldn't understand the concept of whities adopting asian babies.

HAHAHAHAHA sorry I can't stop laughing since you actually responded to the accidental repeat post. For some reason that strikes me as really funny.

I guess I don't mind if they understand or not. I'm just a lowly gaijin in the end anyway! And plus I'll never understand why Japanese girls always drool in porn.


:oops:

Anyway, she did have some funny stories about trying to explain overseas adoption to ignorant old people though.

Urthona
June 19th, 2008, 09:05
The students I tutor saw a picture of my brother next to Condoleezza Rice...and asked me if she was his girlfriend.

You never seen something like that happen in the US or in your homecountry if you aren't from the US? I remember someone from high school who thought Cheney was someone's grandfather.

EDIT: On the subject of the topic - you could always bring up the raclally mixed nature of the US. If my students notice that my parents don't look the same or I need a lesson about American culture, I'll use my parents as examples of immigrants who came from the UK, one Welsh, the other Anglo-Indian and mention that my state has no majority ethnicity. That could help them learn the differences between the US in reality and in pop culture.

how the hell can you be anglo indian?????

...think about it, i'm sure you can work it out.

a white Indian????

Only in the historical sense is the term Anglo-Indian used that way. An Anglo-Indian is someone who is a mix of English (and by extension, the other colonial powers in the subcontinent) and Indian. Think Boris Karloff. They aren't considered "white" and Indians don't view them as Indians. In my mum's case, her family has been Anglo-Indian for many generations but they all look Mediterranean.

In any case, it came up very briefly during my interview for JET, but then again so did karaoke and Koda Kumi.

patjs
June 19th, 2008, 09:07
Koda Kumi is so gross

mukadehater
June 19th, 2008, 20:43
my sisters and i are all related and we don't look a damn thing alike. i mean this is to the extent where people don't even think we're the same race; it's a special joy of being hispanic.

one sister looks completely white except for her very, very curly hair (you know as far as i know white people have curly hair too but it seems to through people off) and so people usually go for white, israeli or the exotic half-white/half-black.

my other sister looks native american. i swear she could take pochahontas any day. i...well, mostly i just confuse people. very few people (even hispanic people) work out that i'm hispanic, and i often get asked if i'm turkish, middle eastern, etc. once i was asked if i was black by some very special college student. with the exception of albinos, this would make me the lightest black i can think of.

Mikewise
June 22nd, 2008, 06:24
ahh my 7 year old sister is chinese adopted. it's gonna make for such great self-introductions! :lol:

swedeinshiga
June 23rd, 2008, 08:24
ahh my 7 year old sister is chinese adopted. it's gonna make for such great self-introductions! :lol:

why would any one even care???????? :roll:

Why the hell do you ppl think this will be a big deal? It's not like any one will actually care all that much.

1440
June 23rd, 2008, 09:00
why would any one even care???????? :roll:

.

Cause ALTs think they are special just cause they are foreign :roll:

dai-chan
June 23rd, 2008, 09:30
my sisters and i are all related and we don't look a damn thing alike. i mean this is to the extent where people don't even think we're the same race; it's a special joy of being hispanic.

That's like me and my sister too - she has light skin and curly curly blonde hair. I'm dark with straight dark hair and look native american.

Yet, when she came to visit, I had students say we looked alike. :roll:

swedeinshiga
June 23rd, 2008, 12:44
why would any one even care???????? :roll:

.

Cause ALTs think they are special just cause they are foreign :roll:

ooooohhhhhhhhhh, we get to be special?? :D

1440
June 23rd, 2008, 13:13
No sweetie-pie, that is the problem. We are NOT special

swedeinshiga
June 23rd, 2008, 13:14
No sweetie-pie, that is the problem. We are NOT special

but my kyoto sensei says I'm her "special boy" :cry:

it's all a lie????

1440
June 23rd, 2008, 15:27
Well I can't argue your kyoto-sensei

Mikewise
June 23rd, 2008, 17:02
[error, double post]

Mikewise
June 23rd, 2008, 17:03
why would any one even care???????? :roll:

Why the hell do you ppl think this will be a big deal? It's not like any one will actually care all that much.

yeah that's true. highschool students probably wouldnt give a shit even if i told them my sister was hitler. theyre in highschool.

swedeinshiga
June 23rd, 2008, 20:06
why would any one even care???????? :roll:

Why the hell do you ppl think this will be a big deal? It's not like any one will actually care all that much.

yeah that's true. highschool students probably wouldnt give a shit even if i told them my sister was hitler. theyre in highschool.

but then you would have to explain who Hitler was and that would be mighty hard for them to grasp :lol: