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    I'm doing some translation work for my BOE and I'm just getting a giant brain fart when it comes to the potential for ~よう・~おう... the sentence:

    赤いイノシシはますます怒り狂って彼に襲いかかろうとした。

    襲いかかる(おそいかかる) means "to attack/to pounce on/to jump on".

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    Default Re: ~ようとする ・ ~おうとする

    I think it implies a state of trying to do something, or setting about doing something. So maybe the wild boar got angry and prepared to pounce (on something).

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    yeah i would say something like "was going to, or was getting ready to attach him."
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    Every example sentence I can find of ようとした is translated to 'tried to do'.

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    Volitional+とする is basically equivalent "try to ~".

    "The red boar became increasingly enraged and tried to attack him."
    "I have ... relations... with many of the students." -- Sai1

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    By the way. What kind of town do you live in to have red boars going around attacking people?

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    oh i got to translate bear sighs two years ago, and we dont really live that inaka here. for a while all the elementary school kids in the mountain schools would wear bells on their shoes so when they walked it would scare the bears away.
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    I think sometimes it diverges a bit from a plain "try to," as in the sentence 帰ろうとした時、国際電話がかかってきました。

    It sounds really stupid, but as it's とする attaching to a volitional form, I think of 帰ろうとしたところ as "the moment I was like, 'let's go home'" (to oneself in one's head). That could mean you tried to go home, you decided you'd head home, etc.

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    Default Re: ~ようとする ・ ~おうとする

    Yeah, it means "try to do" but in the sense of physically attempting a task. Not the same as "I'm going to try hard" or "I'm going to try this shirt on".

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingmongkut View Post
    I think sometimes it diverges a bit from a plain "try to," as in the sentence 帰ろうとした時、国際電話がかかってきました。
    Just to be snotty: "[Right] when I tried to leave, an international call came in."
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    Quote Originally Posted by ampersand
    Just to be snotty: "[right] when I tried to leave, an international call came in."
    haha, yeah, fair enough. I do think of that "try" as a bit more figurative, though. technically, you could have just left.

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