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    Interac's pre-hire materials stress a formal business dress code. Standard "suit, tie, and wingtips". Yet the FB page and the recruiters have been saying that you can wear business causal (even sneakers) inside the schools. Which is it?
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    Just start out formal and go from there. Once you get a feel for your schools, you can dress accordingly. Interac only stresses a formal business dress code because they want to project a professional image.

    Indoor shoes are separate from the dress code standard. You can wear whatever shoes you want. Sneakers were suggested because they are comfortable and practical, especially if you're at an elementary school.

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    My coworkers wear suits w/ crocs at work.

    Like mentioned, you start off spiffy and start downgrading from there.
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    My principal would have broken my thumbs if I'd shown up to my "academic" high school in anything less than a suit. At my first Elementary school I wore whatever didn't have holes in it. You'll figure it out, just make sure you don't not bring a suit for those first weeks.

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    lol @ notjim. I'm at an Academic school and show up in jeans and a zip up fleece (and I'm not the only teacher who does it :P). It's different everywhere you go I guess.
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    Its a case of expect a situation where you might have to wear a full suit every day, as some schools are like that, but more likely you can just wear suit-trousers, any sort of shoes and a shirt.

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    Just start out formal and go from there. Once you get a feel for your schools, you can dress accordingly. Interac only stresses a formal business dress code because they want to project a professional image.

    Indoor shoes are separate from the dress code standard. You can wear whatever shoes you want. Sneakers were suggested because they are comfortable and practical, especially if you're at an elementary school.
    Have to totally disagree here.
    Show up on your first day with bleached blond hair and a bazillion piercings (assume you managed to get the job looking like that in the first place...) and that's what your school will expect of you from thereon, any change towards professionalism will be subtly encouraged and seen as a great move.
    Show up 100% professional however and you've set yourself a very high bar that is hard to lower.

    I wouldn't suggest you show up on your first day in jeans and a tee-shirt and with a massive tattoo on your face of course but if you really must then its better to start with that and have it be your default than for it to be a sudden change for the worse.
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    In a strange sorta way that I don't want to encourage, Tyr kinda has a point :P
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    Yes, lowering the bar is indeed tough. At my current elementary school I wear a tie every damn day, its a nuisance and often a garrote. Just depends on where you go, my own rule is never be the worse dressed person of my gender at the office. And cover up the tattoos, they scare the little-uns (well, they scare the office lady.)

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    thats madness. go to school in suit and tie but once you arrive change into a tracksuit like everyone else.
    Great men of action never mind on occasion being ridiculous; in a sense it is part of their job.

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    I would, but no one changes into a tracksuit. Seriously weird to see someone teaching 8 year olds every day in a suit and tie, but that is how it goes.

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    So let me understand this: if I show up in a skirt, I'll have to wear a skirt the rest of my contract? If so, I'm just going to save the trouble and not pack any. Suit pants will do.
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    Suit pants will do.
    You're going to Japan, not the isle of lesbos.
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    No sane human wants to see my thunder thighs in a skirt.
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    i was also confused about this. But I guess it just varies school to school... Im glad I didnt go all out and get a whole bunch of stuff...

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    I'm going to take my clothes from when I worked at a law office. I figured they'll do after I'm settled. Having trouble finding suit coats in colors other than black, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ini View Post
    thats madness. go to school in suit and tie but once you arrive change into a tracksuit like everyone else.
    Do you have the teachers that go to work in a suit and teach in a suit, but when they have time in the staffroom they change to a tracksuit to lounge about, and end up changing 4-5 times a day?
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    I was just going to wear doc martens, can't go wrong.
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    Well, you've stepped on a sticky bush. Technically speaking you are Interac's employee so whatever they say goes. At the same time there is room for wiggle. Like everyone else has said, it depends on your school. At the time time, I disagree with arriving to school in jeans or whatever is handy that day. Dress smartly at all times, it looks better to the school thus giving you brownie points at the office. It's not hard to wear business casual. Wearing a suit can be exhausting, I understand that. Don't wear a tracksuit. Seriously, don't. While you are going to be a teacher in the school you are still an outsider in more than one respect. Another good rule of thumb is the closer you are to Tokyo, the better you have to dress. Another good rule of thumb is to listen to the subtle messages of your principal (or not so subtle). If your principal tells you to relax then do so, stop wearing that overly hot suit jacket and tie (I'd keep the dress pants and button up shirt). If you start being asked if you are cold then put the suit jacket back on. Varies by school but don't start changing it too drastically but by little, tiny bits at a time.

    Sneakers: Sneakers are indoor shoes and are required. Wear dress shoes up until you hit the school then you have to change into sneakers (that are only used for indoors) with white soles. Two reasons for this, one is the Japanese have always had a pair of indoor and outdoor shoes so one does not track gunk into the building. Two, you need white soled sneakers, it prevents black marks so the kids have something less to do doing the cleaning period. Don't assume shoes advertised as mark-less won't mark. Personal experience there, luckily I was able to remove the mark before anyone noticed.

    Black suit coats are fine as a side note. It's pure black everything that's a bad idea. Black jacket + tie + shirt. Funeral clothes.

    Sorry for the little rant. Maybe I'm on the straight and narrow (how did I, of all people, end up on the straight and narrow). It's best to make the school happy so you can keep your job. Be a professional, don't slack. It helps your quality of life to some degree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laevatienn View Post
    Sneakers: Sneakers are indoor shoes and are required. Wear dress shoes up until you hit the school then you have to change into sneakers (that are only used for indoors) with white soles. Two reasons for this, one is the Japanese have always had a pair of indoor and outdoor shoes so one does not track gunk into the building. Two, you need white soled sneakers, it prevents black marks so the kids have something less to do doing the cleaning period. Don't assume shoes advertised as mark-less won't mark. Personal experience there, luckily I was able to remove the mark before anyone noticed.
    This depends on your school. At the three schools I teach at, teachers wear sneakers, dress shoes, sandles, whatever in the main school (after changing at the entrance, of course), and white-soled sneakers are only required in the gym.
    ...because Japan.

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    Yeah, my school only has the white sole rule for the gym. Otherwise any kind of shoe type is worn as indoor shoes.

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