Results 1 to 17 of 17

Thread: Taxes

  1. #1
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Posts
    2

    Default Taxes

    Hey guys! Here's hoping someone can help me...

    So our BOE is really great, and they've been taking our inhabitants' tax out of our pay every month. For us leavers however, we just got an email saying that because we're getting paid for July (amount of tax being decided in June or something) we have to pay a whole extra year's worth of tax (140-164,000) straight up as a lump sum in July even though we'll be leaving in August.

    Has anyone else had this happen? I haven't heard of this anywhere.

    Any my info super appreciated!

  2. #2
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Posts
    2

    Default Re: Taxes

    *Any info - dumb autocorrect!

    Just in case the above wasn't clear - the BOE is saying that even though we paid the tax for the years we lived there already, because we are getting paid one month after the tax threshold we have to pay for an extra year. Seems weird right?

  3. #3
    Billy Big Bollocks Ini's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Posts
    28,770

    Default Re: Taxes

    the bill comes in july but its based on where you were living on jan 1st. You will have to pay it. Even if you left the country in june you would be expected to pay it/set up a proxy in japan to pay it for you. once you have lived in japan for more than 1 year continuously you are liable. I suggest you work out how many residence tax bills you have been liable for in the time you've lived here, work out how much money the BOE has taken out of your salary over the years and see if that 14man they are asking for makes sense or not.
    Great men of action never mind on occasion being ridiculous; in a sense it is part of their job.

  4. #4

    Default Re: Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Ini View Post
    the bill comes in july but its based on where you were living on jan 1st. You will have to pay it.
    This. Although I always find it interesting that unlike most other things in Japan it's set up based on calendar year and not fiscal year.

    So what happens if you don't pay it? I'm under the old contract and a USer, so my bill is only ¥3.7mans and my BOE pays it for me anyway. Another local JET is a UKer (as I assume the OP may be) and is getting hit with the ~¥140,000 bill that comes out of pocket. Our supervisor is pretty adamant about him paying it (and in the full lump sum) before he leaves. So what happens if he skips out on it? No plans to ever come back to Japan. I suggested that worst that could happen is he's got a real mess to clean up if he ever decides to live here again, or our supervisor deducts the payment from his pension tax refund (or they may do it automatically). Anyone have experience? I googled around, but couldn't really turn anything up.

  5. #5
    keepin' it real ihatefall's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Central Tokyo
    Posts
    1,664

    Default Re: Taxes

    I find it strange that you pay taxes before the year is over
    Everything I have ever said was a lie, and that's the truth.

  6. #6

    Default Re: Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by themightyquinn View Post
    This. Although I always find it interesting that unlike most other things in Japan it's set up based on calendar year and not fiscal year.

    So what happens if you don't pay it? I'm under the old contract and a USer, so my bill is only ¥3.7mans and my BOE pays it for me anyway. Another local JET is a UKer (as I assume the OP may be) and is getting hit with the ~¥140,000 bill that comes out of pocket. Our supervisor is pretty adamant about him paying it (and in the full lump sum) before he leaves. So what happens if he skips out on it? No plans to ever come back to Japan. I suggested that worst that could happen is he's got a real mess to clean up if he ever decides to live here again, or our supervisor deducts the payment from his pension tax refund (or they may do it automatically). Anyone have experience? I googled around, but couldn't really turn anything up.
    Is he on the old contract too? If so he should get back whatever he pays.

  7. #7

    Default Re: Taxes

    No, he's a new contract. He won't be reimbursed. It's a hell of a farewell present, but on the other hand he should have expected it and we walk out of here with a fresh ¥2xx,000 paycheck in our pockets so he certainly could take the hit. He's notoriously tight fisted, so I suspect he'll just try and walk.

  8. #8
    Feckless Manchild Otaku word's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    日本
    Posts
    18,421

    Default Re: Taxes

    They'll just take it out of his pension, most likely.
    Quote Originally Posted by 00Bear00 View Post
    When I read your post I suddenly feel like I am so far away from being crazy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ini View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ananasboat View Post
    It's festivals days like these on which I really try really hard to make up for not partying in college.
    yeah, because who needs free flowing drugs and alcohol fueling adventorous sex with taut, lithe young bodies when you could wander around a dying town in the freezing cold with a can of asahi super dry in your hand while some toothless old farmer shouts at you.

  9. #9

    Default Re: Taxes

    Meh, if you really want an answer, you'll probably want to contact CLAIR directly.

    Most likely, you'll see non of that money back even if you're owed it.

  10. #10
    Comrade therealwindycity's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    The Chicago of Japan
    Posts
    3,949

    Default Re: Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by webstaa View Post
    if you really want an answer, you'll probably want to contact CLAIR directly.
    Worst advice evar.

  11. #11

    Default Re: Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by webstaa View Post

    Most likely, you'll see non of that money back even if you're owed it.
    If he's owed it, he'll get it. They don't tend to mess around with that kind of thing.

    By the sounds of it he's not owed any of it though. Post 2012 Jets get a far worse deal than those that came before.
    Last edited by mrcharisma; June 26th, 2014 at 15:30.

  12. #12

    Default Re: Taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by webstaa View Post
    Meh, if you really want an answer, you'll probably want to contact CLAIR directly.

    Most likely, you'll see non of that money back even if you're owed it.
    Quote Originally Posted by therealwindycity View Post
    Worst advice evar.
    Dear Keitorin,
    Thank you for your interest.
    CLAIR has been closed for reevaluation.
    Please note that the Team Teaching Handbook and Team Taught Pizza are still accessible.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jiggit View Post
    But what if we reverse the polarity of the quantum string theory? According to uncertainty principle there are infinite worlds out there, so it stands to reason schrodinger's cat is alive in one of them.


    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo87;
    U da real mvp.

  13. #13

    Default Re: Taxes

    No, it's not income tax, it's residence tax (住民税). A tax you pay to your local municipality. It's calculated based on income, but not an income tax. It's assessed to everyone who resides in that village/ward/town/city on January 1st of that year. Move back home on January 2nd? You're shit out of luck. Conversely if you move to Japan January 2nd, you don't have to pay that year's residency tax. That's why JETs who aren't exempted don't have to pay it until the following calendar year (because we arrive in July/August).
    Last edited by themightyquinn; June 26th, 2014 at 16:00.

  14. #14
    Gizmoduck - blatherskite Gizmotech's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    A depressingly cold place...
    Posts
    10,067

    Default Re: Taxes

    Am I missing something here, I thought we paid taxes for the previous year of residence, which is why we pay almost nothing in our first year (only Aug-Dec), and the second year is where the big one comes from (jan-dec).

    If his employer has been taking money off, they should be able to cover it, (and I mean taking money off for residence tax specifically. They might be doing it only for national income tax), and if they didn't, they should have been aware that this was coming. It shouldn't be news.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cytrix View Post
    Organising anything with ALTs is like herding cats on catnip

    Quote Originally Posted by Antonath View Post
    We Jeeperneez are express all emotion through money. Wedding is happy money. Funeral is sad money. Izakaya is friendship money. Girl-bar is almost-sex money. But babby-borning is bery happy money, as no babby in Japan. All babby is special so we is givings much money as presento for babby.

  15. #15
    Billy Big Bollocks Ini's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Posts
    28,770

    Default Re: Taxes

    you dont pay residence tax unless you have lived in the country for over a year.
    Great men of action never mind on occasion being ridiculous; in a sense it is part of their job.

  16. #16
    Perpetually confused. johnny's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Location
    Japan
    Posts
    4,065

    Default Re: Taxes

    I got charged 5,500¥ by the city for something.

  17. #17
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    900

    Default Re: Taxes


Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •