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    Default Is the phrase "native speaker" offensive to you?

    It recently came to my attention that an English professor here at my college is teaching the Japanese students not to use the phrase "native speaker". She says that the term "native" is offensive and degrading.

    I have never heard of this opinion before. It's a very common term, or at least it is in the US. She is British, so I am wondering if it is just a difference between cultures?

    Has anyone else heard of this? Or is she just a special snowflake?

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    I`m British and I don`t take offense to it....

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    I don't see a problem with it. The only time "native" is a dodgy word is when people get all colonial and start talking about "the natives".
    ...because Japan.

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    Yeh I think she's a basket case. I've never heard anyone say that the term is offensive.

    There was an ALT near me last year who seemed to think that half the English language was offensive; sometimes people are just weird.
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    so you could be raised from a young age in a country, be totally fluent but because of your passport you're not a "native speaker"? Racist!!!!
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    How is it offensive btw? Does she just not understand what it means? How the hell else would you say it?

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    Yeah, I think the jackoff is confusing native with the natives. Even then I don't find it offensive, but at least then there's an argument to be made.

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    Unless Timothy 2:12 sensei is thinking it's offensive because a learner of a language can never be a native and thus the native has the upper hand? If so even that is bullshit.

    My father speak English at a higher level than most native speaker.

    That teacher needs to STFU have her creditability checked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiggit View Post
    How the hell else would you say it?
    indian speaker

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    Quote Originally Posted by ihatefall View Post

    My father speak English at a higher level than most native speaker.
    Good to see fluency runs in the family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrcharisma View Post
    Good to see fluency runs in the family.
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    I don't think her being British has anything more to do with it than her being crazy.

    Her being British may have helped her become crazy, but still... No. it's not offensive. And if anybody tells you that it is, punch them in the face repeatedly until you knock some sense into them.
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    so now you are white knighting this limey cunt? jesus snow, give it a rest already
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    Surely I'm actually white-knighting the word 'Native'?
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    I find "white-knighting" offensive. Why's it gotta be white-knighting, and not fuchsia-knighting or turquoise-knighting, huh? Huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordaius View Post
    I find "white-knighting" offensive. Why's it gotta be white-knighting, and not fuchsia-knighting or turquoise-knighting, huh? Huh?
    We do already have a resident rainbow knight...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SomePeopleJustSaySnow View Post
    We do already have a resident rainbow knight...
    So what does rainbow-knighting entail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordaius View Post
    So what does rainbow-knighting entail?
    A lot longer making a suit of armour.
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    You are like the secret boss battle they only advertised back when the game was being developed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordaius View Post
    So what does rainbow-knighting entail?
    Arguing in support of anyone who vaguely falls under the LGBTQAH spectrum regardless of how bonkers and hateful they are in their SJWing.

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