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    Who did I support that was bonkers and hateful?

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    Sheesh, you men really know how to hold a grudge, don't you?

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    Sheesh, you men really know how to hold a grudge, don't you?
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    It's ok windbag. You're rainbow knighting out of love so it's cool my brother.

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    I'll rainbow knight for you, mothy. Don't worry, it's not gay if we don't kiss.

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    Sorry, I don't enjoy it unless I feel beery breath.

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    Arguing in support of anyone who vaguely falls under the LGBTQAH spectrum regardless of how bonkers and hateful they are in their SJWing.
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    Hermaphrodite

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    Can we add "TN" as well?
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    It would have to just be T, otherwise it might be mistakeen for Tennessee, and they aren't down with this shit.

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    Wan't trying to say anything about British people in general. Mainly wanted to make sure this wasn't simply a difference in language between cultures. Like American chips and British chips.

    Now that we got that cleared up, yea she is crazy. She tells the students native speakers should be described as a person who's first language is ___ . According to the students, she said they should not use it because it is offensive to the said person to be described as "native anything". I guess somehow her imperialist attitude can't be associated with the lowly idea of being native.

    Sigh.
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    What do thy have against hermaphrodites? Such haters, those LGBTQHVs are.

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    Wan't trying to say anything about British people in general. Mainly wanted to make sure this wasn't simply a difference in language between cultures. Like American chips and British chips.

    Now that we got that cleared up, yea she is crazy. She tells the students native speakers should be described as a person who's first language is ___ . According to the students, she said they should not use it because it is offensive to the said person to be described as "native anything". I guess somehow her imperialist attitude can't be associated with the lowly idea of being native.

    Sigh.
    I love when people, in their insane quest to be PC, actually reveal their own racism.

    How is being "native" a bad thing? It's not. But apparently she thinks it is, hmmmm.

    Aside: everyone that I know also uses the term "native level" which clears up the passport/birthright BS.

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    In a similar vein - there was a brouhaha in on of my prefectural meetings because the Americans casually dropped the word 'handicapped' in connection to someone in a wheelchair and the two resident Irish JETs lost their fucking minds about how offensive 'handicapped' is and how there must be better words, because in one corner of one English speaking area it has the connotation of 'that dude's fucking stupid.'

    So now we're 'indigenous speakers'?

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    I think "handicapped" has been phased out by "disabled", which sounds worse in my opinion, but whatever. I still call them retards.

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    I'll weigh in for a second here..

    Online, and in certain academic circles (most of em being British) there has been a recent push against the term native and non-native for English speakers. Mostly it comes from the idea that in developing countries there are English speakers who are fully capable at English, but their English is not seen as a native English, but a secondary colonial English (This mostly applies to India, South east Asia, and in some small parts European Englishes).

    They have been saying the term is offensive/discriminatory by indicating that those Englishes are inferior. More importantly, it comes into play at the teaching level, where many institutions still discriminate against non-native English teachers because they are percieved as being less capable at English language instruction than a native speaker.

    Is it genuinely offensive? Not really.

    Is it being turned into an issue? Yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gizmotech View Post
    Online, and in certain academic circles (most of em being British) there has been a recent push against the term native and non-native for English speakers. Mostly it comes from the idea that in developing countries there are English speakers who are fully capable at English, but their English is not seen as a native English, but a secondary colonial English (This mostly applies to India, South east Asia, and in some small parts European Englishes).
    Uhh, if you learned English as a first language then you're a native speaker. Otherwise Americans, Canadians and Australians wouldn't be native speakers of English either.

    More importantly, it comes into play at the teaching level, where many institutions still discriminate against non-native English teachers because they are percieved as being less capable at English language instruction than a native speaker.
    They are though. They sound fucking ridiculous and barely anyone can understand them. If you teach someone to speak like an American or Australian at least most people stand a pretty good chance of understanding them. If you teach them to speak like someone from Singapore then you've taught them a useless skill since they won't be able to communicate with anyone.

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