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    Since obtaining my interview notification I've had some doubts whether to go ahead with it, as my circumstances are different from when I first applied. At the time of applying I was over a year out of uni with no job, and it seemed like a good idea for a change of direction in where I eventually want to end up. (A change in career from programmer, which I now know isn't really for me, to teaching/lecturing in further and higher education). However, I've since landed a decently-paying job in my qualified sector which I could stick at in order to save up for an eventual return to university. As such I have two options: go ahead and take the JET interview and have to go through the job-hunting process again when I get back if I am successful; or stay where I am and keep earning towards this career change. Now, I'm leaning on this second, safer option, although being torn with all the work I've put into the application process I don't want to let it go to waste; and I want to make a decision I won't regret later. I think my fear is if I quit now I won't get another chance to do JET later; there's always Interac of course, but my main question is if I pull out before the interview, could I re-apply 2-3 years down the line?

    TL;DR - Thinking of pulling out before interview due to career direction, will I be able to re-apply in subsequent years if I change my mind?

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    You should be able to apply in 2-3 years.

    If I'm not mistaken, should you refuse placement or interview, you have to wait a year before applying.

    (If you refuse 2015, you can apply for 2017)

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    If the consequences for refusing a placement / interview are the same as Zolrak suggests, I would take a day off work and just go to the interview. It would be fun just to see how it goes and to see inside the embassy. At least this way you have an idea how the interview would be, should you reapply later on in life.

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    You can reapply the next year with no issue, as far as I know. The "no reapplications the following year" rule doesn't kick in until you've been accepted and been given a placement, to avoid people dropping out and looking for a "better" placement the next time.
    ...because Japan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antonath View Post
    You can reapply the next year with no issue, as far as I know. The "no reapplications the following year" rule doesn't kick in until you've been accepted and been given a placement, to avoid people dropping out and looking for a "better" placement the next time.
    You are correct , I checked the website to make sure.

    It says you can reapply if you refuse interview.

    The placement is the kicker, don't refuse that one.

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    JET isn't all that. I'd cancel the interview if I had other options.

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    The other option is to go for JET and see how you actually like teaching (although at lower levels) before you invest in school again!

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    Yeah let the horrible education system here suck all the joy out of teaching, leaving you without motivation for further schooling and once again unsure of what you want to do with your life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AyaReiko View Post
    The other option is to go for JET and see how you actually like teaching (although at lower levels) before you invest in school again!
    Being an ALT and teaching in a western country are very different. If you want to know what teaching is like, volunteer in a classroom at a level you'd want to teach and talk with the teacher about what they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Libellule View Post
    JET "teaching" and teaching in a western country are very different imo. If you want to know what teaching is like, volunteer in a classroom at a level you'd want to teach and talk with the teacher about what they do.
    ALTs aren't teachers, principally. Unfortunately no-one told the JTEs that and they amazingly don't seem to notice.

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    JET "teaching" has more in common with kindergarten cop than actual teaching in a western country.

    Great men of action never mind on occasion being ridiculous; in a sense it is part of their job.

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    Damn. I've been modeling my lessons on Jingle All the Way and Commando.
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    Quote Originally Posted by emperor_ing View Post
    Since obtaining my interview notification I've had some doubts whether to go ahead with it, as my circumstances are different from when I first applied. At the time of applying I was over a year out of uni with no job, and it seemed like a good idea for a change of direction in where I eventually want to end up. (A change in career from programmer, which I now know isn't really for me, to teaching/lecturing in further and higher education). However, I've since landed a decently-paying job in my qualified sector which I could stick at in order to save up for an eventual return to university. As such I have two options: go ahead and take the JET interview and have to go through the job-hunting process again when I get back if I am successful; or stay where I am and keep earning towards this career change. Now, I'm leaning on this second, safer option, although being torn with all the work I've put into the application process I don't want to let it go to waste; and I want to make a decision I won't regret later. I think my fear is if I quit now I won't get another chance to do JET later; there's always Interac of course, but my main question is if I pull out before the interview, could I re-apply 2-3 years down the line?

    TL;DR - Thinking of pulling out before interview due to career direction, will I be able to re-apply in subsequent years if I change my mind?
    Your experience on the JET Program canm be great, but it can be miserable as well. There are great placements and BoEs, and horrible ones. The problem is, you don't know what you are going to get until you arrive in Japan. Your pred may have hated their placement, but you could love it, so until you experience life in (insert placement here) it is impossible to tell.

    Refusing your interview will have no negative consequences if you do decide to reapply in the future. So you are safe there.

    Many JETs return to the US and have a terrible time finding a job because their degrees may not be in demand (especially true with many liberal arts degrees).

    In the end you should do what is best for your future. If JET is something you have wanted to do your whole life, and you would feel like something is missing if you didn't do it, then go for it. I think you should at least go to the interview, and wait to see if you get short listed. You can still decline without any repercussions as long as you do not know your placement information. (comes usually a month or so later).

    You can decide better then. No need to stress out about the decision now when the fact of the matter is you might not make it onto the shortlist. If that is the case, then you can rest easy knowing you already have another job.
    Anything I say here is my personal opinion. Always consult with your coordinator if you have any doubts, especially if you are applying from a country that is not the United States.

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    IMO it's always worth keeping your options open. Might as well do the interview. If you don't pass, your decision is made for you and you don't have to worry about any what-ifs. If you do pass, you have until the end of April to back out without any repercussions (really up until mid-May, when we usually get placement results). That's about 3-4 months from now - you never know what could happen between now and then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AyaReiko View Post
    The other option is to go for JET and see how you actually like teaching (although at lower levels) before you invest in school again!

    Aw yeah, quoting myself!!!
    Yeah, I was trying to see a "pro" for "take the interview", but I got a dumb one.

    Emperor_ing, What I wonder is: how important is JET to you? I mean, if you don't do it now because you have a good job, when would you do it later? When you have enough money for school and you're ready to take that step? After you're out of school? How important will finding your "life career" be at that point in your life? What if you find a job straight out of uni? basically, if it doesn't fit later one either, will that be a problem for you?

    It's a lot of ifs, but that's what you're question is about, I guess. In any case, your final answer is yours to make, ad I wish you good luck finding it!

    I'm pro doing the interview and finding out if you're shortlisted though.

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    Thanks everyone for your comments. If declining before placement information is received is okay (I'm assuming you get some sort of tick box "you've been accepted, do you want to go ahead with it?" beforehand), then I might as well take the interview. I already have the time booked off work; it was simply a case of replying to the JET desk.

    Looking at the guidelines it does say

    Not have declined a position on the JET Programme after receiving notification of placement in the last JET Programme year (excluding cases where it is accepted that the participant had a valid, inevitable reason for withdrawing, In this case, the applicant must consult with the JET desk prior to application).
    So I think I'll be fine either way, I don't plan on re-applying for the 2016 programme, it'd be 2017/2018 at the earliest.

    To answer AyaReiko's questions:

    How important is JET to you? - Well it's something that I've been working towards for the past year that's only been stopped by my current position, so it's been pretty important to me.
    When would you do it later? - I guess that depends on my feelings in the future. If I stick in this job for a couple of years and then get to a point where I'm considering a fresh challenge I could re-apply then; or I could re-apply after doing uni again, which at this point I'm unsure whether it would be another bachelor's or a master's.
    How important will finding your "life career" be at that point in your life? - Considering I'd probably be in my late 20's at that point that will be pretty important.
    If it doesn't fit later one either, will that be a problem for you? - If that's the case then I may end up regretting not going but again depends which way I end up going.

    But yeah I kinda agreed with SF Coord's comments about being flexible and keeping your options open. My current job is safe until the end of April where I'd be having my quarterly review, so I think the application timeline works well with that. So I'm going ahead with it and I just have to await confirmation from the JET desk now.
    Last edited by emperor_ing; January 21st, 2015 at 16:01.

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    Dude, just do the interview. It's in two weeks. You may be wishy washy about it now, but that might just be your nerves of moving to another country. You can make a decision once/if you actually get accepted.

    Being a JET will offer you employment for at least a year, but it will also afford you ample time to pick up other skills on the side like improving your Japanese, getting better at programming, picking up certs, or even doing an online masters.
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    On JET, your attitude can dictate a lot of what you get out of it. I encourage you to ignore posts that say, "JET has nothing to do with teaching," and stuff like that. If you take it seriously as a future education professional, you can do good things and learn a lot.

    Also, you can save a lot of money on JET. You could go from 3 years on JET right back into school.

    Note: I was a 3-year ALT, and I have since completed all coursework for a secondary-school social sciences teaching credential.
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    God this mothy bloke is depressing.

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