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    Learning it then?

    My neighbours have been trying for months to teach me and I think i've got the hang of it. As long as you sound like you're a bag of shit from some scummy area then you're probably speaking Okayama ben. Then there's my town ben which is just impossible.

    Anyway so you lot learning your bens?

    I'm told that if i ever go to Osaka or Tokyo not to use okayama ben because it's embarassing.
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    I've tried a little bit, but I am not very good at Japanese in general....

    My supervisor speaks "kansai-ben" and all the kids laugh at him. I can't tell what is so funny...

    Once, I was talking to an older lady from my bitty village. I could hardly understand a word she was saying. I made guesses, asked her the question again in the Japanese I knew and she nodded and said what I assume was yes in a new way.

    Weeks later, she ran up to my car at a stop light and gave me corn soup. Maybe I asked her for it in whatever language she was speaking. :smt005

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    oh i think i am learning it, no one says anything when i talk here in my area but i get loads of "what they hell are you saying" when i visit friends in tokyo or what not.
    kansai ben is cool, but it is not just one ben. there are differences all over the board. heres one expamle.

    to go行く to come 来る
    so when saying not to come or dont come...

    来ません or 来ない
    but in
    osaka its けへん
    kyoto its こへん
    shiga its けあらへん

    and there are subtle nuances within each town and city as well, i am really interested in learning this kind of stuff, and do my best to speak in my local dialect whenever i can.....
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    Okayama ben:

    Sometimes simple things like 'That's pretty good hey?' - いいですね

    somehow becomes:

    *grunt*ぼけいええじゃな〜*gruntgrunt*

    More authentic if you use a deep growly Melanie Safka style voice.
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    それいいですね =   ほなええやん

    まま = ぼちぼち

    i love using everything i can , but my wife laughs at me sometimes and says i am trying to hard, becuse the first 3 years we knew eachother i didnt speak anything but tokyoben plus a few tohoku nasals and だべ's i learnd in high school

    also love hearing what other local bens sound like so if you could post something here plus its tokyo-ben equal that would be cool
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    I love Osaka-ben!
    In Toyama-ken 行きましょうか somehow becomes 行くちょうか (same for other verbs, too). There were lots, but I've forgotten most of it. "g" tends to be very nasal and sound like "ng" in Toyama (probably because it's so fricken cold up there everyone's nasal passages are frozen solid). I got told I sounded like a hick when I went to Tokyo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wicket
    I love Osaka-ben!
    In Toyama-ken 行きましょうか somehow becomes 行くちょうか (same for other verbs, too). There were lots, but I've forgotten most of it. "g" tends to be very nasal and sound like "ng" in Toyama (probably because it's so fricken cold up there everyone's nasal passages are frozen solid). I got told I sounded like a hick when I went to Tokyo.
    I got told that in Osaka once!!
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    I've been told that I have an Okinawan accent when I speak Japanese, but Okinawa Hogen ("Uchinaaguchi") is basically a different language to Japanese.

    Have only really learnt a few words.

    Ganbatte = Chibaryo!
    Oh my God! = Ayena!
    Itai = Aga
    Yokoso = Mensore
    and a few more

    Ichariba chode means "once met, we are brothers", which is a rather nice thought.
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    I always know my boys are speaking in Hiroshima-ben when they stand right on top of me and say something. My JTE always says its Hiroshima-ben and hushes them away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Narniaru
    I always know my boys are speaking in Hiroshima-ben when they stand right on top of me and say something. My JTE always says its Hiroshima-ben and hushes them away.
    Don't they speak Bingoben in your neck of the woods?

    if so it's very similar to our bumfuck ben!
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    Haha, most probably
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    All I know of Yatsushiro/Kumamoto-ben so far is that Taigya = very. A quick look at denshi jisho tells me that taigyaku means high treason, lol. Hooray inaka ben!

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    I'm not interested in my local Ben. I don't swing that way. :P

    In all seriousness, I quite like Saga dialect, and it's always fun to watch the jouzu crew have orgasms whenever I use it.

    For those who care:

    ~te iru -> ~to
    ~te inai -> ~toran
    ~i -> ~ka, for example samui -> samuka
    Atsui -> nukka
    Samui -> hiyaka
    SAMUKUNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAI?!?!?!? -> HIYONAKA?!?!?!??!?!?!?

    There's also a REALLY hicksville version, or maybe it's just in my town, where they say "nshatta" for the past tense, eg kita -> kinshatta, tabeta -> tabenshatta, and "nshoran" for ~te inai eg kite inai -> kinshoran. This tends to only be used by older people, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by BarcelonaDude
    All I know of Yatsushiro/Kumamoto-ben so far is that Taigya = very. A quick look at denshi jisho tells me that taigyaku means high treason, lol. Hooray inaka ben!
    Hee, the local banks here are called Saga Ginkou, which gets shortened to Sagin. I learned last year that "sagi" is Japanese for "fraud" or "scam". 8O
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    "Teach the gaijin Okayama-ben" is a popular game at enkais, resulting in hilarity all round. I encourage it, because I find it funny. I have learnt various things, including:

    ください ー くらさい
    めんどくさい ー たいぎ
    おおきい ー でけ
    とても ー でいれい/ぼけ
    さむい ー さみ
    あつい ー あちぇえ

    Also, my town has a different rendering of the janken chant, which I've never heard of anywhere else - instead of "janken hoi" or other variations on that theme, I have "jiketa". Anyone else have this, or are the kids in my town just retards?
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    Quote Originally Posted by neo_relina
    I've tried a little bit, but I am not very good at Japanese in general....

    My supervisor speaks "kansai-ben" and all the kids laugh at him. I can't tell what is so funny...

    Once, I was talking to an older lady from my bitty village. I could hardly understand a word she was saying. I made guesses, asked her the question again in the Japanese I knew and she nodded and said what I assume was yes in a new way.

    Weeks later, she ran up to my car at a stop light and gave me corn soup. Maybe I asked her for it in whatever language she was speaking. :smt005
    Has anyone given you a definitive answer if there really even is a Nagano-ben? I'm out in the east side and everyone tells me that, while there a few things here and there, it's almost exactly the same as standard Japanese. Not sure if they just don't want to go to the trouble, though...

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    The thing I love most about Osaka ben or perhaps Kishiwada ben (my city within osaka, the 2nd dirtiest ben in japan apparently) is the way people use わ at the end of a sentence, which any textbook will tell you is for women.

    もういいですよ!

    becomes

    もうええわ!

    but the わ has a slightly different meaning, its a bit like よ though.

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    What's the dirtiest ben in Japan then? I reckon Okayama and Bingo would be fighting it out for roughest ben going.
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    I forgot, but they use words like われ and おまえ in general conversation and that's just the beginning of it lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by dombay
    What's the dirtiest ben in Japan then? I reckon Okayama and Bingo would be fighting it out for roughest ben going.
    Bingo wins that fight by being called Bingo. My favourite train station is Bingo-Akasaka. It's fun to say

    Really though, I think you've gotta give Okinawa some credit for not even speaking something intelligible as Japanese in terms of rough and dirty bens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doublenatural
    Bingo wins that fight by being called Bingo. My favourite train station is Bingo-Akasaka. It's fun to say
    I take it you have been to the sex shop there
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