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    Alright folks, here's one for you (not because it's a pressing issue, but because I'm bored and have never quite known the answer to this).

    Can anyone explain to me when it is appropriate to use の and when it is appropriate to use こと? There are some area's where it's fairly cut and dried, but occasionally the odd situation pops up where I have no idea which is correct.

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    Could you give an example of time when it's confusing? I kinda know what you are getting at, but I'm not sure how to explain the difference without more context.

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    In my experience, generally you can use the two interchangebly anytime for nominalizing a verb, except for maybe a few cases where こと is explicitly used. Let's see if I can list some off the top of my head:

    1. 今日は車を買うことにした - Today I decided to buy a car. (~ことにする)
    2. 米ドルが急に下がったことについて話しましょう - Let's talk about the American dollar quickly taking a dive. (~ことについて)
    3. ホント?マイクが死んだってこと?- Really?? You mean Mike died?! (~ということ)

    Those are really the only ones that I can think off the top of my head. Most of the time the context determines which one is used more naturally. Maybe it helps to think of (~こと) as specifically saying "The thing that is ~" so it's putting a little more emphasis on the action or preceding sentence, and (~の) being simply a nominalized verb e.g., "Driving is fun" - 運転するのが楽しい。

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    Here's a page all about that written by real Japanese people which, lets face it, makes it more reliable than anything most of us can come up with it.
    Should answer a lot of your questions

    http://www014.upp.so-net.ne.jp/nbunka/99july.htm

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